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Tintin
02-05-2006, 08:18 PM
Is there any info about the 2006-07 ABC Kids schedule?

veemonjosh
02-05-2006, 09:28 PM
Are you any info about the 2006-07 ABC Kids schedule?

You mean "Is there", not "Are you". That was funny though.

Tintin
02-05-2006, 09:58 PM
You mean "Is there", not "Are you". That was funny though.

Thanks a lot

Freedom Fighter
02-06-2006, 04:01 AM
Not until the upfronts in about a month. Given past ABC turnover, I'd project only one new show ("Hannah Montana," which premieres next month on Disney Channel and stars Billy Ray Cyrus and his real-life daughter), with the outgoing show being either "Lilo & Stitch: The Series," "The Proud Family," or "Phil of the Future." I'm considering "That's So Raven," "The Suite Life of Zack and Cody," "Kim Possible," and "Power Rangers" as already renewed or heavily favored to be renewed. Too early to tell for "Emperor's New School," though it started off well. I don't see Jetix getting another chance at implanting a second show in, after "W.I.T.C.H." flopped and "Super Robot Monkey Team" was scheduled but didn't even air on ABC Kids once.

Tobias
02-07-2006, 12:24 PM
There's also the Lizzie Maguire spinoff with Miranda's sister that's coming, so that'll be on ABC Kids at some point. I think Proud Family and Lilo & Stitch will the first shows dropped since they're out of new episodes.

Burgundy Ranger
02-08-2006, 11:31 AM
There's also the Lizzie Maguire spinoff with Miranda's sister that's coming, so that'll be on ABC Kids at some point. I think Proud Family and Lilo & Stitch will the first shows dropped since they're out of new episodes.
I'd venture that L&S would go before Proud if for no other reason than the ethnic one. The Proud/Raven hour does quite well.

AdamYJ
02-08-2006, 01:08 PM
Whatever they are, I'm sure we're already able to catch most of them on the Disney Channel.

Freedom Fighter
02-09-2006, 02:26 AM
I really doubt ABC Kids will go back to airing any first-run programming anytime soon, especially given their current ratings. 'Fillmore' and 'Power Rangers: Ninja Storm' were the last two shows to air episodes first on ABC. 'Emperor's New Groove' is the next closest thing... they're a week behind.

Ekkostar
02-09-2006, 10:59 AM
I thought by now ABC Kids would be dead and Good Morning America would do the Today Show thing and run for 4 hours straight on Saturday.

For quite a few years I heard that rumor, but it never happened.

Burgundy Ranger
02-09-2006, 02:07 PM
I thought by now ABC Kids would be dead and Good Morning America would do the Today Show thing and run for 4 hours straight on Saturday.
Well, the Today Show is only on for 2 hours on Saturdays.

The fact that the FCC requires three hours per week of educational programming on every broadcast station is the ONLY reason why ABC, CBS and NBC even bother with a Saturday morning kids block. And ABC is the only one that offers any non-E/I programming.

And believe me, these networks truly see this as a bother. They'd rather not do it. The stations certainly don't want to do it. But the government says they HAVE to.

If the FCC rescinded the E/I requirement at say, noon, stations would drop the kids shows and have local news and infomercials scheduled by 1:00.

Jeff Harris
02-09-2006, 10:24 PM
Check the news page. A lot of additions, including, finally, Oban: Star Racers.

Erased Paper
02-09-2006, 11:35 PM
Quite a surprise. I expected Proud Family to be gone, but KP as well? Two eps each of TSR and PR seem pointless. Raven brings high ratings, but KP almost always beat PR. As this point, it seems that they'd be better off just killing the non-E/I hour entirely.

Burgundy Ranger
02-10-2006, 12:09 AM
As predicted, Lilo & Stitch is also gone.

As is Phil of the Future.

The only thing I can think about returning to the double-shot of PR is to help it get through its 32-episode season in a timely manner, since Sept. is also when college football starts and there will be anywhere from 8 to 11 pre-emptions of the 12-1 hour.

Freedom Fighter
02-10-2006, 02:44 AM
Intriguing line-up for ABC Kids in the fall.

I kept 'The Replacements' out of my prediction above because I thought it would be too soon for a port from Disney Channel. But I see they're going the same 'instant' direction as they did with 'The Emperor's New School.'

I didn't think ABC would be into doubling up spots, but they seem to have done just that with 'That's So Raven' and 'Power Rangers: Mystic Force.' That will be an interesting ploy.

If the Saturday morning audience of 'Zack & Cody' follows it to 11:30, that could very well ensure ABC will have at least one sure-bet timeslot win every week, regardless of what WB... eh, CW, puts against in next fall.

Overall, it's a bigger change than I expected. 'Lilo & Stitch,' 'The Proud Family,' 'Kim Possible,' 'Phil of the Future,' plus the recently departed 'The Buzz on Maggie.' All gone. ABC is definitely following Disney Channel's model... leaning more towards live-action than animation.

It'll be interesting to see how the Saturday morning race will be affected, especially since we're waiting for WB/CW to show their hand.

Tobias
02-10-2006, 05:11 PM
It'll be interesting to see how the Saturday morning race will be affected, especially since we're waiting for WB/CW to show their hand.

I think the CW lineup will just recycled the Kid's WB lineup with one or two 'New' shows. 'The Batman', 'Pokemon', 'Loonatics', and possibly 'Johnny Test' and Viewtiful Joe' will all most likely still be apart of the block when it jumps channels.

AdamYJ
02-10-2006, 06:35 PM
I really doubt ABC Kids will go back to airing any first-run programming anytime soon, especially given their current ratings. 'Fillmore' and 'Power Rangers: Ninja Storm' were the last two shows to air episodes first on ABC. 'Emperor's New Groove' is the next closest thing... they're a week behind.

Yeah, but it still doesn't mean I have to be happy with it.


The fact that the FCC requires three hours per week of educational programming on every broadcast station is the ONLY reason why ABC, CBS and NBC even bother with a Saturday morning kids block. And ABC is the only one that offers any non-E/I programming.

And believe me, these networks truly see this as a bother. They'd rather not do it. The stations certainly don't want to do it. But the government says they HAVE to.

If the FCC rescinded the E/I requirement at say, noon, stations would drop the kids shows and have local news and infomercials scheduled by 1:00.

Yeah, I know that too. It's this horrible catch-22. We now have three hours of lackluster, semi educational cable reruns aired by stations that don't really even care anymore.

I miss Saturday mornings. It's so sad to see a cultural tradition wither away like this.

hobbyfan
02-10-2006, 11:32 PM
The fact that ABC has chosen to give That's So Raven & Power Rangers an hour each shows a lack of creativity in scheduling. As noted, Power Rangers: Mystic Force will be pre-empted pretty regularly during football season, but doesn't Mystic Force debut this month?

Haven't seen Emperor's New School yet, don't intend to. The Replacements intrigues me, as it replaces Kim Possible as the action-comedy toon on the board (and in an earlier time, too). Kim will start the season on the bench, and return when something falters. Maybe they'll finally get a clue and give KP the E/I designation and pair her with the Replacements if Emperor goes belly up.

Until it'd been announced that Jetix is being confined to Toon Disney (digital cable in upstate NY), I was going to recommend that Jetix would be the bulk of ABC Kids, to better compete with WB/CW.

And which WB series, by the way, fit the E/I criteria?

It wasn't that long ago that Billy Ray Cyrus finished "Doc" for PAX (I). Now he's got a new show. Didn't know he has a daughter. Hannah Montana may be worth checking out, and sounds like Disney's answer to Scout's Safari on NBC/Discovery Kids.

I guess they cancelled Lilo and the Prouds because both series have ceased production and ratings on ABC have dropped (overexposure on Disney will do that). Bring back Fillmore, doggone it!:p

Freedom Fighter
02-11-2006, 02:58 AM
The fact that ABC has chosen to give That's So Raven & Power Rangers an hour each shows a lack of creativity in scheduling. As noted, Power Rangers: Mystic Force will be pre-empted pretty regularly during football season, but doesn't Mystic Force debut this month?By that point, PRMF will be towards the end of the season anyway. Doubling up may enable ABC to finish the last few episodes much closer to its end on Jetix... remember, the outgoing incarnation (PR:SPD) still is airing the last few episodes on ABC... the finale is March 4, and that aired a few months back on Jetix already.


Haven't seen Emperor's New School yet, don't intend to. The Replacements intrigues me, as it replaces Kim Possible as the action-comedy toon on the board (and in an earlier time, too). Kim will start the season on the bench, and return when something falters. Maybe they'll finally get a clue and give KP the E/I designation and pair her with the Replacements if Emperor goes belly up.There is the possibility, that I just thought up, of after the holiday season, KP regains her slot in the non-E/I hour and next year's PR is reduced to one slot. That would make sense, especially with KP's fourth season needing an airing place on ABC, even though we don't know when it starts airing on DC.

Though I am intrigued at how 'The Replacements' earns an E/I designation.


Until it'd been announced that Jetix is being confined to Toon Disney (digital cable in upstate NY), I was going to recommend that Jetix would be the bulk of ABC Kids, to better compete with WB/CW.

And which WB series, by the way, fit the E/I criteria?Don't think ABC needs to do anything out of their current structure to compete with WB/CW... they're there right now. Then, there's the whole 'every network needs 3 hours of educational programming' requirement.

Speaking of which... WB/CW currently has none of that. Their affiliates have to rely on independent programming to meet the requirement.


I guess they cancelled Lilo and the Prouds because both series have ceased production and ratings on ABC have dropped (overexposure on Disney will do that). Bring back Fillmore, doggone it!:p 'The Proud Family,' save for the movie released last summer, has been out of production even longer than 'Kim Possible' was just before her renewal... almost two years! We weren't even sure 'Lilo & Stitch' would get a second season, and pretty much everyone was surprised when it did. Neither is subject to overexposure on DC anymore anyway... 'Lilo & Stitch' is seen a lot, but none of the airings are in good timeslots. And as of last month, I think 'Proud Family' has its best slot on ABC, not DC.

The surprise of them being pulled from ABC this fall isn't because we didn't think the network had enough shows in place to fill their slots. The surprise is that ABC isn't slowly booting them out, as in year's past. Look at my post above... 5 shows that aired on ABC this season (excluding any midseason return, like KP might have) won't be here next season. I think ABC dropped that many shows in the first four years under the 'ABC Kids' banner. So this is a more radical change than expected, and it makes me think...

ABC has come to the realization that I just have. It's not about just WB/CW and 4KidsTV anymore. Nick has always been the big dog, and CN's new Saturday morning lineup is already siphoning off portions of what's left of the broadcast networks' audience. ABC's upfront, WB losing their weekday block, 4KidsTV's renewal, CBS' new lease to Dic, makes me think that, as a collective, the broadcast networks are noticing the well is drying up... and those four changes alone make me believe they're starting to panic. We're seeing moves right now that may very well be do or die, not just for each individual network, but for broadcast networks and Saturday morning programming on them as a whole.

The picture will become clearer in the coming weeks when ABC's main competition has their upfronts, but yeah, the broadcast networks look like they're in trouble right now.

bigddan11
02-11-2006, 11:40 PM
The WB! airs the Critter Gitters everyday at 9:30 AM. It is considered to be a kids show and meets the E/I requirements. Ultimate Choice airs on Sunday's at 10:30 AM and is also classified as E/I. That's 3 hours worth of E/I programming a week currently on the WB!

Burgundy Ranger
02-12-2006, 01:45 AM
The WB! airs the Critter Gitters everyday at 9:30 AM. It is considered to be a kids show and meets the E/I requirements. Ultimate Choice airs on Sunday's at 10:30 AM and is also classified as E/I. That's 3 hours worth of E/I programming a week currently on the WB!
The WB! doesn't do any morning programming (except Saturday, of course) on the national level.

Tobias
02-12-2006, 05:32 AM
Here in Indiana, the only show the WB affilitate runs on weekdays is Trollz, which airs at 2:30, then that's it for the E/I stuff outside of what runs on Kid's WB.

Freedom Fighter
02-13-2006, 04:17 AM
No show currently part of Kids' WB's current line-up has an E/I designation! None! Even if you were going on the loosest interpretation of what can be classified as an E/I show, the only show that might be in the ballpark is 'Johnny Test' (going by the rule of 'it can be E/I because the characters go to school'). As I said, any E/I programming your WB affiliate airs doesn't come from the WB, it comes from elsewhere!

(To be honest, I can't even remember the last KWB show to have the E/I designation. 'Channel Umptee-3?' 'Detention?' 'What's New, Scooby-Doo?')

Burgundy Ranger
02-13-2006, 11:08 AM
Here in DC, they make the FCC happy with two eps of Sabrina on Saturdays after the KWB block, and then one more and three Liberty's Kids on Sunday mornings. Wouldn't be surprised if that's not real similar to what other WB and/or Fox stations do.

Donald Duck 12
02-16-2006, 10:34 AM
So with Jetix off of ABC Family this schedule leaves Disney television more vulnerable. Unless Disney Channel puts more effort in Saturdays or ABC Family replaces Jetix, they don't have much to put up for Saturday mornings.

prankster619
02-24-2006, 12:01 PM
It would be blasphemous for ABC Kids to not have "What's with Andy?" on their lineup this coming season......in my opinion anyway.