Console war gone by.

[Tak Mazé]

Not one thread that involves the Nintendo DS or Sony PSP goes without getting into a fanboy/fangirl argument about which is better. So let's go back to a time when it was Sega and Nintendo which were trying to win the audiences. Who's side were YOU on?
Personally, I was with Nintendo all the way and still am really. I'm interested to know what everyone else thought back in the good ol' days.

[Frank Castle]

I like Nintendo a little more. Sega had the best sports games though.

[Simpler Simon]

Nintendo. Everyone in my class seemed to like Sega better though, with Sonic the Hedgehog and the blood code on Mortal Kombat.

[Artimus Gigan]

Sega, because of Jurassic Park

prior to the genesis/32X, I had the NES

[Scirel]

I was always a nintendo kid.

Now I have Gamecube and PS2.

[Zach]

I used to love Nintendo, then I converted to Sony, now I'm back to mainly Nintendo while still liking Sony as well as Microsoft.

[straw_hat]

I had the SNES and Genesis along with the Game Gear and Game Boy.

[Captain Harlock]

I had a Genesis along with an SNES. I found myself playing the Genesis more, however, as I'd only use the SNES for RPGs. Since I have alot of brothers, we used to play alot of sports games on the Genesis. Not to mention one of my favorite games of all time, Toejam and Earl, could only be played on Genesis.

[Master Moron]

I used to always like Nintendo and talked **** about the Genesis even before the SNES came out. I was such a fanboy. But, after owning the SNES for awhile I eventually came around to the Genesis.

[.Automatisch]

I had systems from both... I liked both companies for different reasons. The Genesis had lots of good arcade ports, which I loved. And it had some good fighters and platformers as well. The SNES had better RPGs, to me... The NES has the most games I'll have vivid memories of, simply because it was what I played the majority of the time. I wasn't really on any side, and am not really now still. I pretty much got almost every system out in the USA, save for a few [3DO, CD-I, and an AES, which I still won't buy due to the price despite being a huge SNK fan]. I had both Genesis add-ons as well. I really didn't start to prefer a certain company until Sega came out with the DC...

[LucheLibre]

In my world this question basically boils down to whether or not you liked Mario better than Sonic. Considering that I've either owned or played on an NES, SNES, N64, a little GC (Mario Smackdown is by far the best game ever made besides Halo, and that is just plain, honest fact :) ), and not much else, I'm gonna say Nintendo. :D

Today, though, Microsoft rules from on high.

Maybe its just me, but Sonic always struck me as "Accelerated Mario-lite." Don't get me wrong, the games are fine. But, I dunno, Mario just has that allure.

BTW, the PS1, mainly due to its low horsepower and awful graphics, couldn't hold a candle to the N64.

[Vermunium]

I was always split down the middle, although I did have a Sega Genesis before I got my Super Nintendo.

[Catlover]

Sega all the way. Back then, I used to be a big Sonic fanboy. Mario never really captured me like Sonic did, and he (Mario) still doesn't.

Ahh...the nostalgia.

[Noukon]

I was very into both my SNES and Genesis, but probably got more play out of the SNES. I do wish Sega was still in the console business...

[Artimus Gigan]

I was very into both my SNES and Genesis, but probably got more play out of the SNES. I do wish Sega was still in the console business...
Meh I don't, they released two addons for the Genesis that did not have adiquate support, and multiiple re-workings for these 16/32 bit consoles(not just one but many). There was also the Sega Nomad which was essentialy just Genesis. Then there was the Sega Saturn which floundered, and then the Dreamcast which only lasted two years, and currently pretty much everything that was good on the dreamcast has been ported.

And we can see that their flagship title franchise has dropped very much in quality.

[PC!]

I was a Sega fan all the way for one reason: Sonic the Hedgehog.

But a few years later, I got the chance to play Super Mario World on SNES. My allegiance was still to Sega, but by the time the war began to die down, I enjoyed the best of both worlds.

[Behonkiss]

Since my parents got me a SNES for Christmas before I'd even heard of Sega, I was a Nintendo supporter (And still am, sometimes).

While I did repeatedly stick up for Nintendo in school arguments, I always secretly jumped on every chance I would get when I was at a friend or relatives' house to play their Genesis if they had a Sonic game.

[Yash]

I was a Sega fan all the way for one reason: Sonic the Hedgehog. Yep.

[Humble]

I sided with Sega after my cousins decided to put down my Genesis every chance they could. Also, Sonic made life worth living. :D

-Humble

[Shnay]

I thought the arguments on the playground were ridiculous back then, and I think essentially the same arguments had over the Internet are ridiculous now. I had an SNES and had lots of fun with it. A friend of mine had a Genesis, and I had lots of fun playing games on that. A few years later, I picked up a Genesis for myself along with some of the best games for next to nothing.

The vigor with which some people will defend certain game companies and attack others baffles me. There are so many fun aspects to these toys we call video games, I don't get why people would want to bicker over which toy company is superior (citing things like third quarter earnings or reputation in overseas markets). If the discussions were ever meant to be serious looks at industry trends, then I could understand that, but they so quickly devolve into the irrational fanboy shouting matches we've seen countless times before. They don't go anywhere, and they don't accomplish anything beyond making certain people feel assured that they've purchased the "best" console.

[Lazyboi13]

I didnt really get into gaming until the Gameboycolour/PS1/N64/Dreamcast generation were I actually had all of (not bought at the same time though). And I personally preferd the N64, mostly because of the great shooters it had and the multiplayer games.

It retrospect though (i play alot of retro games now) id say
Master System > NES
Megadrives > SNES
N64 > PS1 > Saturn

[Chris Wood]

I'm going to back it up even further:

Atari or Intellivision?

[Artimus Gigan]

I'm going to back it up even further:

Atari or Intellivision?
Oddessy2 FTW

[Kevin the Geek]

I enjoyed both systems (SNES and Genesis) equally during their prime (Early and mid 90s).

[SimpsonGuy100]

Here are the companies (and consoles) I support from both now and then:

SEGA

Reason: They made some of the best first-party games ever. Their consoles are really innovative (even today, the Dreamcast and Mega Drive are really awesome stuff) and their status to the video-gaming universe is legendary.

SONY PlayStation

(Or PS1 as some people call it)

Reason: I LOVE this console! Sony had a great grasp on the games, the technology and everything. The graphics are just incredible for the time (I still find it hard to belive that it is using just 32-bit graphics!), the games libary (before 2001) was very decent as well (the best games I think are Crash Bandicoot, Ape Escape & Oddworld: Abe's Oddesey) and everything else is just very nice stuff. No wonder this baby is one of the greatest-selling consoles of all time! :D

(Nintendo)

Reason: The same reasons with SEGA. I also put Nintendo up because they are the only true video-game console company left, and for that they deserve the best, really. :)

Okay, I'm done.

[Chris Wood]

Oddessy2 FTW

Odyssey? Were there even any cool games for that?

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Nintendo forever. Though back in the day and even now I really do like Sega.

[Lazyboi13]

I'm going to back it up even further:

Atari or Intellivision?
Atari, mainly cause it had like... 8X more games and had a better controller :p


Odyssey? Were there even any cool games for that?
I dunno about "cool" games, but I think interms of games it only had a 50 or so :shrug:

[Chris Wood]

Atari, mainly cause it had like... 8X more games and had a better controller :p
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True, but Intellivision had (slightly) better graphics and supported speech!

[Lazyboi13]

Yeah, but games>>>grahics surely? And the graphics wernt that much better :shrug:

and on the grand scheme of things:
Atari 2600 had 900 games
Intelivsion had 160 games
Atari 5200 had 70 games
Odyessy 2 had 60 games
Colevision had 170 games
Vectrex had 30 games

So surely the Atari wins that generation by defult by the amount of games :p

[Artimus Gigan]

Odyssey? Were there even any cool games for that?
Quest for The Rings won game of the year in many magazines back then

[Chris Wood]

Yeah, but games>>>grahics surely? And the graphics wernt that much better :shrug:

and on the grand scheme of things:
Atari 2600 had 900 games
Intelivsion had 160 games
Atari 5200 had 70 games
Odyessy 2 had 60 games
Colevision had 170 games
Vectrex had 30 games

So surely the Atari wins that generation by defult by the amount of games :p

Except that in that generation there were dozens of nearly identical games. Intellivision had some pseudo 3D games (Star Raiders maybe?) that Atari couldn't match.

Colecovision blew them both away but by that time the industry was in the toilet (partly thanks to Atari's 900 games).

[James]

Not one thread that involves the Nintendo DS or Sony PSP goes without getting into a fanboy/fangirl argument about which is better. So let's go back to a time when it was Sega and Nintendo which were trying to win the audiences. Who's side were YOU on?
Personally, I was with Nintendo all the way and still am really. I'm interested to know what everyone else thought back in the good ol' days.

Too true and it's such a shame.

I was a little bit of a lady of the night when it came to the consoles. I was a Sega boy on the Master System, I moved to the SNES for the next gen console and then to Sony for PSX and then I stuck with Sony. I bought a Megadrive retrospectively, but preferred the Snes.

So Nintendo when it comes to the old days... Commodore Amiga to the Atari ST in the older days and Spectrum to the C64 when most of you were just glints in your parent's eye.

Ah the good ol' days.

[g_UnIt_GaNsTa]

I'm more of a fan of Nintendo than I am with Microsoft (Though I do love my XBOX 360) and I'm more of a fan of Microsoft than I am of Sony.

I don't really remember how I felt about Sega except I thought the Dreamcast looked really neat.

[Rasputin]

Looking back...I can't honestly remember whether I was a Sega or a Nintendo fanboy. I started out on a Commodore 64 (the screeching! THE INFERNAL SCREECHING!) and then, one magical christmas, I got a Master System! Of course, the Megadrive came out soon afterwards and for some time afterwards I had to deal with having to play with the 'cheaper' console, but I always envied those people with Sonic. I couldn't help but love Sonic. He was always so...COOL.

Then, one day, my brother got a SNES. What's weird is that for some time afterwards I still had a closet love for Sega. It was like supporting the Maquis in occupied France. I still bought magazines and I collected the UK Fleetway "Sonic the Comic" for years after I bought the SNES. One day I managed to get my own Megadrive and played my way through all the Sonic games. Then...I guess eventually my love for RPGs overcame my love for Sonic. I was only really interested in Sega for Sonic. The SNES seemed to accumulate a lot more games of greater interest to me while I wasn't looking.

The SNES had Secret of Mana, Megaman X, Starwing (Starfox in the US) and that most awesome of games: Chrono Trigger. The Megadrive...didn't. I actually took the time to play Super Mario World and loved it. I played Super Mario All-Stars and loved it. My under-the-hood fanboyism for Sega had been on the wane even before I managed to get my Megadrive. Chrono Trigger pretty much sealed it. I became a committed Nintendoid.

I subsumed myself in a convert's belief in all things Nintendo. I swallowed everything, even that cock and bull excuse for not following CDs because cartridges were somehow 'better'. Me and my brother were both committed to buying the Nintendo 64. We played the thing happily and merrily...until eventually we came under the realisation that in all this time we had been playing about 2 games that were any good. I saw people with the Playstation, that fad of a machine that was supposedly doomed next to the grand and mighty Nintendo...and garnered the distinct impression that we had been had.

For a while we had a 3DO...that was pretty fun. Then I witnessed the majesty of Final Fantasy VII and developed an urgent NEED to have that game. So then, somehow, we got a Playstation. I broke it, so we got another one. Then we lost interest in the thing entirely and the console fanboy inside basically died. I became a cold, cynical, player of PC games. Consoles seemed to be playthings by comparison. I continued to play Grim Fandango and Half-Life and tried to forget about console games. Then for a short time in 2002 I was possessed by a kind of madness and bought an X-Box. I sold it five months later on principle. I've been console-less ever since.

But not a month goes by when I don't remember those halcyon days of Sonic, Megaman X and Chrono Trigger, and I fire up the emulator one more time. I've rekindled my passion for those days when games actually lit a fire inside my kind, wee soul and gone forth to discover Zelda, Tales of Phantasia and other such delights that were denied me by my late awakening to my fanboyism. Unfortunately they've been getting in the way of my University work so I've had to delete the Emulators until I get past this term.

Now I've been eyeing a Nintendo DS with Sonic Rush and finding it increasingly attractive. Now I can unite my twin fanboyisms and not feel like I'm missing out on anything. 'cept it costs £130. Natch.

[Tak Mazé]

Heh, if you want to see some bitter hatred, check this out!
http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/631/
Did you know the Saturn's so-called "3 processors advantage" was actually a major downfall?

[Noukon]

Meh I don't, they released two addons for the Genesis that did not have adiquate support, and multiiple re-workings for these 16/32 bit consoles(not just one but many). There was also the Sega Nomad which was essentialy just Genesis.
I don't see why those things would have had any bearing on consumer support for the Genesis before they were released (which was well into the console's life cycle).


Then there was the Sega Saturn which floundered, and then the Dreamcast which only lasted two years, and currently pretty much everything that was good on the dreamcast has been ported.
The Saturn was a pretty definite flop, and I never had one myself. The Dreamcast, though, is another story; it didn't flop in the same sense, but rather it fell victim to Sega's constant losses, despite decent sales and a great game library. I still consider the two years I spent with my Dreamcast to be two of the best gaming years of my life.

[Lazyboi13]

I thought the arguments on the playground were ridiculous back then, and I think essentially the same arguments had over the Internet are ridiculous now. I had an SNES and had lots of fun with it. A friend of mine had a Genesis, and I had lots of fun playing games on that.
I know what you mean man, when 10 year olds say "the console i dont have is ****" is depressing, but when young adults do it on gaming forums, it justs ****ing depressing and makes me want to shoot myself. :shrug:

[Artimus Gigan]

I don't see why those things would have had any bearing on consumer support for the Genesis before they were released (which was well into the console's life cycle).


The Saturn was a pretty definite flop, and I never had one myself. The Dreamcast, though, is another story; it didn't flop in the same sense, but rather it fell victim to Sega's constant losses, despite decent sales and a great game library. I still consider the two years I spent with my Dreamcast to be two of the best gaming years of my life.

The 32X and Sega CD did not have adiquate support, and then there was the Saturn

so three consecutive consoles that did not do all that well was a big part in the Dreamcast's demise. People just didn't buy it because of Sega's past history.

However I think pretty much 95% of all that was good in the DC library has already been bested, Skies of Arcadia, DOA2, and SA 1 and 2 all got 1.5 upgrades in their ports. Soul Calibur was beaten out by Soul Calibur 2 and 3. Street Fighter 3 and Marvel vs Capcom 1 and 2 had ports to other systems. Phantasy Star Online got ported as well.

I mean for those two years thatw as pretty much the heavy Hitters

I think Toy Commander and Shenmue are the worthwhile only ones left

and I think Shenmue will get a re-release down the line, or atleast I hope it does...my copy somehow dissapeared

Also the DC's controller was just a bad design, it did not feel comfortable at all.

[Tash]

I'm confused. What's this "Master System"? I didn't know Sega had an anti-NES.

[Artimus Gigan]

I'm confused. What's this "Master System"? I didn't know Sega had an anti-NES.
it's this:
http://www.zonesega.com/img/Pub/Master%20System.gif

[Punisher]

Also the DC's controller was just a bad design, it did not feel comfortable at all.
I'd go as far to say the DC's controller is the best one I've ever had the pleasure of playing with. It was close to perfect, L and R were comfortable, and getting pictures on the vmu was awesome. I love playing Sonic Adventure and seeing all the character pop up.

[Mynd Hed]

However I think pretty much 95% of all that was good in the DC library has already been bested, Skies of Arcadia, DOA2, and SA 1 and 2 all got 1.5 upgrades in their ports. Soul Calibur was beaten out by Soul Calibur 2 and 3. Street Fighter 3 and Marvel vs Capcom 1 and 2 had ports to other systems. Phantasy Star Online got ported as well.

Well, duh. A few years of no software support will do that to a console. Doesn't change that fact that at the time Dreamcast was active it was the clear console of choice over the PS2, which didn't get any really good software until a decently good while after its launch.
Heck, the fact that the Little Console That Could is still worth plugging into a TV at all (and it is, baby, it is) this late in the game is a testament to its goodness. It's just too bad that Sega screwed themselves over so badly with a lot of bad decisions directly before the Dreamcast and got themselves into financial trouble and, worse, undermined gamers' confidence in them.

[Lazyboi13]

I'm confused. What's this "Master System"? I didn't know Sega had an anti-NES.
Its actually a pretty damn good console too. In america it sold pretty badly, but it did brillinatlly in other contrys. If you go into a shop that stocks retro in the UK, the have LOADS of them. Not as much as megadrive, but more than SNES and NES games.

There was also the "SG-1000" realeased even before that in about 1982 or so. But it was only released in japan, I didn't do particully well (or particually badly mind)

[Artimus Gigan]

Well, duh. A few years of no software support will do that to a console. Doesn't change that fact that at the time Dreamcast was active it was the clear console of choice over the PS2, which didn't get any really good software until a decently good while after its launch.
Heck, the fact that the Little Console That Could is still worth plugging into a TV at all (and it is, baby, it is) this late in the game is a testament to its goodness. It's just too bad that Sega screwed themselves over so badly with a lot of bad decisions directly before the Dreamcast and got themselves into financial trouble and, worse, undermined gamers' confidence in them.
Yeah, one of my favorite still exclusive games is Sega Marine Fishing

I'm hoping that since the Revolution will work in pretty much the same way in terms of the DC Rod controller that we will get some bad ass fishing games

[Noukon]

However I think pretty much 95% of all that was good in the DC library has already been bested, Skies of Arcadia, DOA2, and SA 1 and 2 all got 1.5 upgrades in their ports. Soul Calibur was beaten out by Soul Calibur 2 and 3. Street Fighter 3 and Marvel vs Capcom 1 and 2 had ports to other systems. Phantasy Star Online got ported as well.

I think you're just going by your own collection/preferences. I have plenty of Dreamcast games that never got ported up, and some that did (Grandia II) had pretty crummy ports.

Those ports are meaningless, though; I had the most fun with those games on the Dreamcast, and the fact that they eventually were released on other systems is a result of the system's failure, not a cause of it, nor is it a reason to decry the Dreamcast in any way. I will not regret all the fun I had on my Dreamcast just because some of the best games were ported to other consoles a few years later.

[Tash]

However I think pretty much 95% of all that was good in the DC library has already been bested, Skies of Arcadia, DOA2, and SA 1 and 2 all got 1.5 upgrades in their ports. Soul Calibur was beaten out by Soul Calibur 2 and 3. Street Fighter 3 and Marvel vs Capcom 1 and 2 had ports to other systems. Phantasy Star Online got ported as well.
But didn't Marvel vs. Capcom only get ported to the Playstation and Dreamcast? (and the Playstation version wasn't as arcade-perfect as the DC version) Although whoever decided the configure it to the D-Pad needs to be shot.

[Artimus Gigan]

But didn't Marvel vs. Capcom only get ported to the Playstation and Dreamcast? (and the Playstation version wasn't as arcade-perfect as the DC version) Although whoever decided the configure it to the D-Pad needs to be shot.
I have the DC version of MVC but there was a PSX version

But there isn't any real difference in the PS2 version of MVC2 and the DC version