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James Harvey
06-07-2001, 05:50 PM
Okay - Curare is supposed to be this master assassin. Yet in the scene in the apartment, when Max gets caught we see Curare miss an incredibly easy shot of stabbing her. Yet she's off by at least 2 feet and hits some foot stool. What the? If she's a master assassin, how the heck could she miss so horribly?

Then again -- it could've been done on purpose.

Neato - post #800.

Huntress
06-07-2001, 05:59 PM
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I noticed that, too and thought 'huh - she's not so scary'!! But ... if she is a professional assassin then she's only out for her target. Surely she'll focus on her objective alone or getting caught up in other bouts might make her lose her chance or distract her too much. I guess she needs to be low key to be successful.

So then why'd she attack Max in the first place??

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Inque
06-07-2001, 06:20 PM
my explanation: satan himself is protecting his demon-spawn child a.k.a. max gibson

redDragon
06-07-2001, 06:25 PM
first note: yay some smilies became happy again!

On topic: Well it's probably the dumbing down of the villian to make the heroes look better. And maybe there's just some weird curse on her that's making her mess up or something. To bad Curare missed.


my explanation: satan himself is protecting his demon-spawn child a.k.a. max gibson

YEAH! Like all them Valley Girls he has down there with him!! They're scary!!!

James
06-07-2001, 07:08 PM
Originally Posted By HuntressS
o then why'd she attack Max in the first place??

Be fair, she could hardly avoid the urge to take a swipe at the little oink.

It would take more control than even a deadly assassin could muster not to attack Max.

Perhaps she just realised that it wasn't the time or the place to make a mess and popped off. She is an assassin, Max was non essential to her crusade.

Best frighten the little squid for laughs and then go and get stuck into some serious vengence!

:rolleyes:

James Harvey
06-07-2001, 07:11 PM
Maybe Curare thought she wasn't worth the effort.

Huntress
06-07-2001, 07:12 PM
Or maybe she was distracted by her annoyance at being interrupted in her mission and thought she'd slice an' dice Max (maybe she does in a parallel universe) but then decided it was too easy; a waste of her valuable time and resources and too much bother to get the stains out of her bandages.

Huntress
06-07-2001, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by SJJ



Best frighten the little squid for laughs and then go and get stuck into some serious vengence!



Dude, that's scarily akin to something your namesake would say!! But very funny ... so you think Curare might be laughing her ass off under the swaddling??:D

James
06-07-2001, 07:28 PM
Dude, that's scarily akin to something your namesake would say!! But very funny ... so you think Curare might be laughing her ass off under the swaddling??

I must confess (and confess I do whole heartily) that this episode was made for me by having Max cowering in the bath tub. Then after, repentant (if only for a brief few minutes) for the trouble that ensued because of her arrogance.

This comes a close second to 'Where's Terry' as my favourite Watch-Max-Squirm episodes!

:p

The Old Maid
06-07-2001, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by DickGrayson
Okay - Curare is supposed to be this master assassin. Yet in the scene in the apartment, when Max gets caught we see Curare miss an incredibly easy shot of stabbing her. Yet she's off by at least 2 feet and hits some foot stool. What the? If she's a master assassin, how the heck could she miss so horribly?

Then again -- it could've been done on purpose.

Sadly, EVERYBODY came out looking bad in this one. Name one person who wasn't off his game. The other assassins stand there as Curare tosses gas pellets at them. They know she has them. These fellows didn't carry gas masks, they didn't run away, they didn't even duck.

Bruce Wayne is incommunicado? As I mentioned elsewhere, here we have a serious control freak who inexplicably leaves Terry with zero support. Ever heard of an ancient device called Ham Radio? Give Bruce a handheld version (complete with solar battery) and there is no excuse for him to be out of touch, ever. And this is the Batman, the man with all the best toys!

(I realize that ham radio operates on public airspace. Surely Terry and Bruce Wayne have a few coded phrases all their own by now.)

Max, of course, ruins the sting, putting thousands of lives at risk. She also finds the bomb by sheer chance alone, having broken the tool Terry lent her.

Terry makes an idiot of himself. (Hard to watch because I like the character.) His scientist father (Warren) has taught him math and probably science ; and his surrogate father (the Batman) should have taught him everything else. In fact this is the first time Bruce has left Terry unattended. Shouldn't this mean he thinks Terry HAS learned something? We've seen Terry, in previous episodes, do every single thing Max did right. She is "teaching" him things he already knows.

So it's par for the course that Curare, "the best they have" makes such moronic mistakes :

1. Misses Max repeatedly.
2. Thoughtfully lets Max get up off the floor and run around the room before continuing to chase her.
3. Can't catch Max. (Curare managed to outrun 30 cops in her premiere episode.)
4. Doesn't know what her target looks like. She doesn't even know if her target is a woman or a man! This is really basic information.

DG suggested that Curare did it on purpose. Hmm. If she did, it should have been made plain why on earth she did. The audience knows that Max is Batman's associate, but Curare doesn't. Max could be a hooker, a catburglar, or even the next guest, the head assassin having just checked out hours before. So what does it serve to kill or threaten this bystander? No point to it at all.

The only ones who got it right were the animators. Curare's scenes are always among the best in the series. Good animation, just too bad it was in such a bizarre and depressing plot.

BTW, is anyone else having trouble posting? I had to retype this as it wouldn't take it the first time.

Nightwing
06-08-2001, 01:50 AM
Yes, I agree completely. The episode was okay, but it's flaws were unfortunate. But without an argument I'll at least have to poke a joke in.


Originally posted by The Old Maid

Bruce Wayne is incommunicado? As I mentioned elsewhere, here we have a serious control freak who inexplicably leaves Terry with zero support. Ever heard of an ancient device called Ham Radio? Give Bruce a handheld version (complete with solar battery) and there is no excuse for him to be out of touch, ever.


A solar battery? I'm sorry, this is Bruce Wayne we're talking about, right? yuck yuck! ;)



Originally posted by The Old Maid

2. Thoughtfully lets Max get up off the floor and run around the room before continuing to chase her.


I'm sorry, but not remembering the episode frame for frame when another poster describes a scene (like I do with BTAS, TNBSA) makes me improv, and I laughed histerically when I read this. I pictured dopey Max standing up and running around the room to dodge Curare. :D LOL!!

I uh....I guess you had to have been there...in my head that is.



**You might catch a bug or two because our big cheeze has recently updated our software, but in any case I'm sure it's just temporary.

For example I always have to log in before I go read posts, because if I click reply, fill out my text box, and hit send, it doesn't load my reply after I submit my name and password.

That happens on AOL. It works fine on regular Internet Explorer though.

The Old Maid
06-11-2001, 08:23 PM
Now now, play nice :)

I wouldn't expect Bruce Genius Wayne to use primitive tools if something more sophisticated was available. Merely mentioning that he did live in the Dark Ages before communications were routed through satellites. So he should have a minimum of two devices that can contact Terry : one ancient, one modern.

Max tells Terry she can't contact Bruce because "SatCom is down." Hm, I wasn't aware that a terrestrial event like a typhoon could damage a satellite. So it was the ground equipment that was damaged? Maybe -- except Bruce doesn't use other people's equipment. He carries his own, and builds it too.

Bruce Wayne can phone home just fine. Bruce in Malaysia with no communications is like the Professor saying there's no way he can repair that hole in the boat -- and then using roots and twigs to build a dentist's office. The man invented an electric toothbrush, for crying out loud.

The way the script tells it, I have visions of one working phone in all Malaysia, eighty thousand people in line to use it, and Bruce is number 16,212.

James Harvey
06-11-2001, 09:51 PM
Ya do have to figure that Bruce would have more than one way to communicate with Terry if he need be. He's Batman for crying outloud!

Oh wait..was...

I.R Joey
06-12-2001, 12:27 AM
Yeah some parts of it were kind of eh....but man oh man that was one rocking action sequance at the end.