Revolution will be under 338.12(USD)

[fuchikoma]

Satoru Iwata mentioned to Yahoo Japan that the launch price of the Revolution console would be lower than Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, therefore the price would be under 39,795 yen (price of Xbox 360 in Japan).That's so cheap now no one has an excuse not to buy.

[Artimus Gigan]

So it would cost around 300 for a fully loaded sytem, compared to the 400 fully loaded systems?

[Tanooki]

we already knew the revolution was going to be cheaper than the competition

[Artimus Gigan]

we already knew the revolution was going to be cheaper than the competitionI was expecting 200

[Scirel]

Damn, even nintendo is going to have a system for $300.

Lookslike this pretty much cements PS3 for being $400.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Who says it won't be $200. All that's said there is that its cheaper then the other two systems, nothing about a concrete price.

[JohnCrichton]

Bummer... I was kinda hoping for the 150 dollar system. Ah well...

[Dogbert]

Ugh. Nintendo has been saying this for a very long time. Note that the article said, "Satoru Iwata mentioned to Yahoo Japan that the launch price of the Revolution console would be lower than Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3," then went on to say, "therefore the price would be under 39,795 yen (price of Xbox 360 in Japan)."

Iwata didn't use that price and quite frankly wouln't be dumb enough to say "lower than $340," as he'd know too many people would take that as "just under $340." The author of the article was the one who chose to use that particular number.

The Revolution will be cheaper than the competition. Period. That's all the official information we've received from Nintendo executives. Now, if you want to talk about speculation, every article I've read (including a few citing developers who've actually heard information about the systems abilities) has pointed to $99.99, $149.99, or $199.99. Nintendo likes to avoid losing money and sometimes making a profit on hardware sales, so I'm going with $199, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see it lower if they want to make the price a clear advantage to the consumers.

[Nin-Nin69]

I'm guessing $199 will be the initial price. That way it's still cheaper than a PSP.

[Artimus Gigan]

I'm guessing $199 will be the initial price. That way it's still cheaper than a PSP.but the PSP runs around 200

300 is the giga-pack

[Snailbait]

$199 is my guess. If it's higher, I won't be buying it for a while.

[Tapout]

but the PSP runs around 200

300 is the giga-packPSP's are still $250 for a new one. If you get a used one it'll probably cost $200.

[Adam Tyner]

Now, if you want to talk about speculation, every article I've read (including a few citing developers who've actually heard information about the systems abilities) has pointed to $99.99, $149.99, or $199.99.Likewise. I think $199 is a realistic target. I think in a way they'd be hurting themselves if they launched much lower. Y'know, perceived value and all...if it comes in at too low a price, many people may unfairly dismiss it. Sounds strange, but it's true.

[fuchikoma]

The translation below of the original article (http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20051227-00000168-jij-biz) was done by GaijinPunch who runs JapanGaming.

On the 27th, Nintendo CEO Iwata Satoru said in regards to the price tag of their next generation game machine Revolution (working title) will be in a different price range than both Microsoft and Sony game machines, stating they were aiming below the retail price tag of 39,795 yen of Microsoft's Xbox360 which went on sale earlier this month. Also, it's been noted that their handheld game system Nintendo DS which went on sale in December of last year has sold over 5 million units nationwide.

[TheMecca]

... Oh my god.
:head explodes:

[Chad Bonin]

Part of me wants to say "Every Nintendo console has been released for $199... this will be no different."

Part of me wants to say "Nintendo's gonna be desperate to make sure the Freehand invades gaming, and will thusly release it at $149."

All of me is saying "I don't give a crap the price, it's the Revolution. One please."

[Dogbert]

...stating they were aiming below the retail price tag of 39,795 yen of Microsoft's Xbox360...I still don't believe any exec at NCL or NOA would say it exactly like that. It's not an exact quote, so the number was probebly added by the author. It was likely just another "less than the competition" statement. In fact, since Iwata said "different price range," I'd consider it proof it won't be $299, as that would be close enough to be in the same price range. That goes for $249 as well (but to a less certain extent).

Adam Tyner: I agree completely with your reasoning. I was thinking the exact same thing earlier. It's hard to say if Nintendo will think the same way though.

[Sigma]

PSP's are still $250 for a new one. If you get a used one it'll probably cost $200. $200 is the used price for the PSP unit only, no memory stick or anything else extra.

I see the Revolution being no more than $250 at launch. The PS3 I still see costing around the $500-$600 mark which is insanely expensive and only setting Sony up for failure if you ask me, but there are people out that willing to pay $600 for a PS3 and we all know there are people out there willing to spend thousands of dollars on 360's too.

[Artimus Gigan]

$200 is the used price for the PSP unit only, no memory stick or anything else extra.

I see the Revolution being no more than $250 at launch. The PS3 I still see costing around the $500-$600 mark which is insanely expensive and only setting Sony up for failure if you ask me, but there are people out that willing to pay $600 for a PS3 and we all know there are people out there willing to spend thousands of dollars on 360's too.IIRC the PS3 is going to cost no more than 400 which was the price of the X-Box 360 Deluxe System

[Yash]

Hey, that's oddly specific.

My prediction: 149-199. As for games, I hope for them to be around 30-40 a piece.

[Tanooki]

hmm...

$149 means i pick it up on release date
$199 means i consider it and will probably get it if there are any decent games at launch
$199+ means i don't get it until it becomes cheaper or comes in a bundle pack

[Artimus Gigan]

hmm...

$149 means i pick it up on release date
$199 means i consider it and will probably get it if there are any decent games at launch
$199+ means i don't get it until it becomes cheaper or comes in a bundle packZelda is going to be a quasi launch title for the Rev

So hopefully Nintendo will add something in as an incentive to pplay it on a revolution. I'm hoping for a dungeon with a boss battle that suses the whole wave controller like a sword.

[Chad Bonin]

So hopefully Nintendo will add something in as an incentive to pplay it on a revolution. I'm hoping for a dungeon with a boss battle that suses the whole wave controller like a sword.The announced incentive is playing it with the wickedly awesome Freehand. As a person who takes controlling as a major decision in gameplay (if the same game is available on both PS2 and GCN, I will buy it for the GCN [for the most part] due to the superior controller. I bought Retrocon's to play NES games with good controls. I bought the Guitar Hero guitar and DDR pad to play their games appropriately), the ability to have that as a gameplay means that, if I even beat it before the Revolution launches (As I'm still understanding, Twilight Princess will come out before), I'd probably play through it again with the Freehand.

[Zyzzybalubah]

hmm...

$149 means i pick it up on release date
$199 means i consider it and will probably get it if there are any decent games at launch
$199+ means i don't get it until it becomes cheaper or comes in a bundle pack
Thats how I am, except I think I might pick it up at launch even if it is $199. Over that price without an incentive (no PSP didn't give any true incentive to pay more) is something I don't plan on doing. For launch, all I'm asking is for one truly great Mario title (just like the NES, SNES, and N64, Cube made a mistake of not doing that), another great Nintendo title (Zelda: TP is good, but hopefully we get another one, rumor is a wi-fi ready Smash Bros. at launch), and some decent third party support. I'm pretty sure EA, Activision, and perhaps Ubi Soft will whip up some titles to be ready.

Remember the crazy rumors of Revolution being around $99? If that happened, I'd consider buying 2 at launch. :sweat:

[FireStarterLE]

i was hoping for system only at around $150 and store bundles around $225

more than 250 = still thinking about getting it but not as sure, 300 = idea of getting it linger's around, 350+ = no next gen. console for me!

[Lazyboi13]

any idea on when its coming out aswell?

I think it for me, it depends on a lot of things other than the price.

like

-How much I've saved up
-If its released after my birthday *birthday money *cough**
-If the new smash bros is released on or near the release date

and ovisully,

-how much the thing costs
and how much the games cost. I would ideally like to get a game with it on launch

[Dogbert]

any idea on when its coming out aswell?It could be anytime between E3 (in May) and mid-December. My money is on a late-September through mid-November release, similar to N64, GCN, and NDS.


...and how much the games cost.Nintendo has been doing all they can to keep development costs down, including not requiring HD quality on every game. Nintendo executives have said in previous interviews that they plan for Revolution titles to be the same price as GCN games were ($49.99 most of the time). Though, Microsoft is doing the same with first party titles, so that might change when it comes to other developers.

[Lazyboi13]

It could be anytime between E3 (in May) and mid-December. My money is on a late-September through mid-November release, similar to N64, GCN, and NDS.
christ, i thought it would be out sooner than that. assuming thats the US release I could potenially not see the revolution until.... this time next year O___o

the uk release is supposed to be about a month after the US release isnt it?

Nintendo has been doing all they can to keep development costs down, including not requiring HD quality on every game. Nintendo executives have said in previous interviews that they plan for Revolution titles to be the same price as GCN games were ($49.99 most of the time). Though, Microsoft is doing the same with first party titles, so that might change when it comes to other developers.
ah thats not too bad. more or less what i expected and still alot more than I would normally pay for a game. I'll probally only get 2 or 3 games for it before the they start going down in price

[fuchikoma]

I still don't believe any exec at NCL or NOA would say it exactly like that. It's not an exact quote, so the number was probebly added by the author. It was likely just another "less than the competition" statement. In fact, since Iwata said "different price range," I'd consider it proof it won't be $299, as that would be close enough to be in the same price range. That goes for $249 as well (but to a less certain extent).
I wouldn't pay more than $100 for a half baked attempt at affordable quasi-virtual immersion for the home which will have graphics unsuitable for the times, and I fully expect will be chock full of tech demo quality, ie the refuse of the industry, simulators which fanboys will make much ado about how innovative they are while not being much fun or innovative, and also being much shorter than titles on the competitors' hardwares in hopes of drawing in casual gamers so Nintendo can reunite the family and therefore target their preferred demographic which isn't going to happen since families don't game together and family game night died with the development of the counterculture, feminism, and a more me-centric America. I will only pay 200+ for full virtual immersion which isn't viable for the home and I am not sure I want gaming to get that real. What Nintendo is offering is no more than a gimmick like the eye-toy with aspirations of selling us a truer virtual reality experience somewhere down the line. Right now the industry is preping the consumer and testing how viable such technology for the home is. I am not one to stop at the flea circuses and other tourist traps. I will wait until we get to the final destination.


Nintendo has been doing all they can to keep development costs down, including not requiring HD quality on every game.afaik the Revolution isn't a HD console so there are no HD titles. If developing HD games was so costly then the prices on high-end pc games wouldn't be comparable to this gen's console games. This is just a smoke screen to get the gamers in the know to pay more and convince casual gamers to do the same.

Nintendo executives have said in previous interviews that they plan for Revolution titles to be the same price as GCN games were ($49.99 most of the time). Though, Microsoft is doing the same with first party titles, so that might change when it comes to other developers.Nintendo's titles are more expensive than the 3rd party software this gen and I expect the trend to continue.

[Borg4of3]

No where does it say exact pricing. Like Dogbert re-stated - the quote says it will be under the price of the XBox 360. You're the one, the first one mind you, that brought about this misstated notion that that quote meant the console's pricing would be comparable to the XBox 360, which is exactly the opposite of what the quote is saying. And sadly, your misunderstanding of the information that you gave has affected the understanding of others, as seen by the first few responses to an otherwise straight-forward quote.

At best, this is a vague statement that doesn't tell us anything except what we already knew. Nintendo's system isn't going to be as tech-heavy as the others, and Nintendo is aiming for an affordable console, so it won't be as expensive. Old news.

And even if Nintendo did say an exact and early price... Remember when the PSP was going to be $400? (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=99482&highlight=PSP+450)

[fuchikoma]

No where does it say exact pricing. But it does say exactly what price it will be under which Dogbert has decided not to believe since he thinks Nintendo would not even be that straight forward.

[Noukon]

What Nintendo is offering is no more than a gimmick like the eye-toy with aspirations of selling us a truer virtual reality experience somewhere down the line.

The EyeToy is an underconceived and underdeveloped gimmick accessory, and has limited applications. The Revolution controller is many steps above it in terms of quality, versatility, and applicability.

You seem to really be getting your hate on here, and it makes for a very tangential argument. I'll boil it down to this, though: Yes, the Revolution controller is just a step or two in a certain direction. Such a thing is necessary to innovate, though. You can't jump from the current input interfaces of modern consoles straight to the epitome of perfect virtual reality, and criticizing a company just for moving in that direction is absurd.


afaik the Revolution isn't a HD console so there are no HD titles.

It will output 480p standard. So, no, it isn't true HD like the 360 and PS3 are.

The inclusion of HD is somewhat pointless in a console at this point, though; HDTVs aren't as abundant as one might think, and recent studies have shown that the vast majority of HDTV owners don't even have their sets connected properly to their other components (and thus, everything is in standard definition anyway).

It's a trade-off; you'll pay less for the console, and you'll pay less for the games. Your average PS3 owner will not have an HDTV, yet when they buy the console, they're paying for dual-HDTV functionality. It's kind of ridiculous, really.


Nintendo's titles are more expensive than the 3rd party software this gen and I expect the trend to continue.

Most 3rd-party titles release at an MSRP of $49.99.

Most Nintendo titles release at an MSRP of $49.99.


But it does say exactly what price it will be under which Dogbert has decided not to believe since he thinks Nintendo would not even be that straight forward.

This is just ridiculous. It says that it will be less than the quoted price. This offers an entire range of potential price points that they could be referring to.

There is no way in hell the Revolution will release for more than $199. The entire point of the console is to be a cheap alternative.

[Borg4of3]

This is just ridiculous. It says that it will be less than the quoted price. This offers an entire range of potential price points that they could be referring to.
Exactly, and this is the point of the whole thread. Fuchikoma, adding insults to the unproven Revolution that none of us have gotten our hands on is just trying to add side-weight to the issue. Your argument on this can be interpreted this way:

"Sticks of gum are priced under the cost of the XBox360. Why would anyone pay that much?"