View Full Version : Do You Think 2006 Will Bring ADV Back On Track?
Rahxepy
12-29-2005, 06:01 PM
It's been a whole year now and ADV hasn't annouced any hot grabbers like Geneon, Bandai and their head rivals at Funi. Do you think this quite time they've been having is being used to create a huge storm for next year of 2006? and what titles do you expect them to annouce that would shake things up and bring ADV back in the playing pool? For me I would love for ADV to announce these titles because they match ADV's style and they would bring attention back on my fav. company (sorry dad).:sweat:
Blood + http://www.blood.tv/
Air http://www.bs-i.co.jp/anime/AIR/
Sousei no Aquarion http://www.aquarion.info/
Fighting Beauty http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/wulong/
Amaenai de Yo!! http://www.vap.co.jp/amae/
Paradise Kiss. http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Animation/parakiss/
Magical Girl: Lyrical Nanoha.http://www.nanoha.com/archive/
Magical Girl: Lyrical Nanoha A's. http://www.nanoha.com/
I also would love for the Talks with Direct TV and Dish to have gone Good and that a deal was made for next year as well so that the anime network could get into more homes.
Go-chin
12-29-2005, 07:30 PM
It's been a whole year now and ADV hasn't annouced any hot grabbers like Geneon, Bandai and their head rivals at Funi. Do you think this quite time they've been having is being used to create a huge storm for next year of 2006? and what titles do you expect them to annouce that would shake things up and bring ADV back in the playing pool? For me I would love for ADV to announce these titles because they match ADV's style and they would bring attention back on my fav. company (sorry dad).:sweat:
Blood + http://www.blood.tv/
Air http://www.bs-i.co.jp/anime/AIR/
Sousei no Aquarion http://www.aquarion.info/
Fighting Beauty http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/wulong/
Amaenai de Yo!! http://www.vap.co.jp/amae/
Paradise Kiss. http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Animation/parakiss/
Magical Girl: Lyrical Nanoha.http://www.nanoha.com/archive/
Magical Girl: Lyrical Nanoha A's. http://www.nanoha.com/
I also would love for the Talks with Direct TV and Dish to have gone Good and that a deal was made for next year as well so that the anime network could get into more homes.Blood+ = Geneon or FUNi
Air = ADV or FUNi
Aquarion = Bandai
Fighting Beauty Wulong = ADV or some equally crappy company that specializes in crappy shows
Amaenaideyo = ADV
Parakiss = FUNi
Nanoha A and A's = Anyone OTHER than ADV.
Don't condemn good shows to ADV please.
Rahxepy
12-29-2005, 07:35 PM
Blood+ = Geneon or FUNi
Air = ADV or FUNi
Aquarion = Bandai
Fighting Beauty Wulong = ADV or some equally crappy company that specializes in crappy shows
Amaenaideyo = ADV
Parakiss = FUNi
Nanoha A and A's = Anyone OTHER than ADV.
Don't condemn good shows to ADV please.
Whats wrong with ADV?
Rahxepy
12-29-2005, 10:06 PM
Anyone Elses opinions out there? Hello?
Go-chin
12-29-2005, 10:18 PM
Whats wrong with ADV?Same dub casts in every show for one.
I mean, other companies do it too. But at least other companies VAs improve over time.
Second, a lot of ADVs series tend to add needless cursing. Everywhere. Take a look at Saiyuki. They could have easily have dubbed the show without a single curse, yet they're throwing the S word around every 2 minutes.
Third, Their flimsy DVD packaging.
Yeah, they splurge on big moneymakers like Evangelion, but seriously, even Bandai gives crappy shows better DVD releases. look at Avenger, it came in a ****ing tin with art cels. And yes, this is a big deal, because apart from the final 2 episodes, Avenger sucks hard. I'd like to see ADV give me some good DVD boxes.
I sertainly would have appreciated something other than just paper thin cardboard for Gravion/Zwei.
And yes, I do realize that ADV has been getting better about this lately with Godannar, Loki, etc, but that doesn't make up for their past. Yet.
Last, some of their VA choices. A lot of the time I don't agree with them, but hey, that's just me.
Rahxepy
12-29-2005, 10:36 PM
Same dub casts in every show for one.
I mean, other companies do it too. But at least other companies VAs improve over time.
Second, a lot of ADVs series tend to add needless cursing. Everywhere. Take a look at Saiyuki. They could have easily have dubbed the show without a single curse, yet they're throwing the S word around every 2 minutes.
Third, Their flimsy DVD packaging.
Yeah, they splurge on big moneymakers like Evangelion, but seriously, even Bandai gives crappy shows better DVD releases. look at Avenger, it came in a ****ing tin with art cels. And yes, this is a big deal, because apart from the final 2 episodes, Avenger sucks hard. I'd like to see ADV give me some good DVD boxes.
I sertainly would have appreciated something other than just paper thin cardboard for Gravion/Zwei.
And yes, I do realize that ADV has been getting better about this lately with Godannar, Loki, etc, but that doesn't make up for their past. Yet.
Last, some of their VA choices. A lot of the time I don't agree with them, but hey, that's just me.Their voice actors are ok, and I like their thin pack thing that their doing. ADV's Packaging has been very decent for me and to me their DVd's stand greatly to that of Geneon's Disc's (Which are sweet). Cursing I understand to some point because in saiyuki they do curse in the original.
But wow.
Go-chin
12-29-2005, 10:45 PM
Their voice actors are ok, and I like their thin pack thing that their doing. ADV's Packaging has been very decent for me and to me their DVd's stand greatly to that of Geneon's Disc's (Which are sweet). Cursing I understand to some point because in saiyuki they do curse in the original.
But wow.I also like thinpacks.
But the least they could do is make good quality thinpacks, and not flimsy paper ones. See: The small pack Bandai made for .hack//LotT, and geneon's ROD TV one and their Stellvia release(Which was genius, btw.)
And no, they don't curse in the original. The Japanese language doesn't even have curse words. If anything, kuso is the worst, and it would be relatable to damn. Nothing worse.
Rahxepy
12-29-2005, 10:53 PM
I also like thinpacks.
But the least they could do is make good quality thinpacks, and not flimsy paper ones. See: The small pack Bandai made for .hack//LotT, and geneon's ROD TV one and their Stellvia release(Which was genius, btw.)
And no, they don't curse in the original. The Japanese language doesn't even have curse words. If anything, kuso is the worst, and it would be relatable to damn. Nothing worse.I've never picked up a Saiyuki DVD But how come theres S*** and A** etc mentioned in fan subs? aren't those curses too? or is it that Japanese people don't consider them curses?
Rahxepy
12-29-2005, 10:58 PM
Here are some other titles that I think are up their ally and I think would help them.
Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid. http://www.tdd-1.com/
Guyver: The Bio-Boosted Armor. http://www.wowow.co.jp/anime/guyver/
TnAdct1
12-29-2005, 11:06 PM
Personally, if ADV decides to license just one show this year, I hope it's Pani Poni Dash, considering how ADV is usually one of the better companies when it comes to cultural notes.
EscaflownePilot
12-29-2005, 11:16 PM
I agree with pretty much all of your choices, Rahxepy, except for Blood+ which just seems like a great property for FUNimation (albeit mostly because it would be a good follow-up to Trinity Blood).
As for ADV - yeah, their dubs and packaging sucks, but I'm a die-hard subbie, so dub quality means nothing to me, and their thinpaks are great. Outside of that, they just have a solid love of what they're doing so I end up loving them despite their faults, and I get annoyed at the needless bashing they get. I mean, for pete's sake, they've given us The Anime Network and Newtype USA, as well as many shows others wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.
I'd also love to see them take up MMPPP again.
Go-chin
12-29-2005, 11:22 PM
I've never picked up a Saiyuki DVD But how come theres S*** and A** etc mentioned in fan subs? aren't those curses too? or is it that Japanese people don't consider them curses?Because fansubbers are not the be-all-end-all in translations. Sometimes they add those things in there on their own just because. Believe me, unless they actually say the word in English, then they do not say it in the original version.
Go-chin
12-29-2005, 11:22 PM
Here are some other titles that I think are up their ally and I think would help them.
Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid. http://www.tdd-1.com/
Guyver: The Bio-Boosted Armor. http://www.wowow.co.jp/anime/guyver/Those I agree with.
Though Guyver sems like a Media Blasters title.
Zechs
12-29-2005, 11:29 PM
Same dub casts in every show for one.
I mean, other companies do it too. But at least other companies VAs improve over time.
Second, a lot of ADVs series tend to add needless cursing. Everywhere. Take a look at Saiyuki. They could have easily have dubbed the show without a single curse, yet they're throwing the S word around every 2 minutes.
That really pissed me off due to the fact that so much cursing didn't fit with Hakkai's character and IMO meesed it up for me.
And their thinpaks increase ep count, but throw out the extra's which is a no buy from me.
Artimus Gigan
12-30-2005, 12:47 AM
And their thinpaks increase ep count, but throw out the extra's which is a no buy from me.ADV's extras are really nothing noteworthy
Pc-Famicom64
12-30-2005, 12:48 AM
Blood+ = Geneon or FUNi
Air = ADV or FUNi
Aquarion = Bandai
Fighting Beauty Wulong = ADV or some equally crappy company that specializes in crappy shows
Amaenaideyo = ADV
Parakiss = FUNi
Nanoha A and A's = Anyone OTHER than ADV & 4-Kids.
Don't condemn good shows to ADV please.You foregot 4-Kids,Everone hates them as well.
I don't watch Animes to Mush,The Only Animes I Watch'd and think about alot are Hoshi No Kabii (Kirby Right back at ya,And I wash it up to some wher in Episode 60 to 75,Yet I did wash The Episodes that are base'd on Kirby's Air Ride) Pokemon (Got Dumb by Late Season 2) and Hamtaro (Only The Humans) .
Animes That I Have think abouts but Never Watch'd ar Card Captur Sakura (Wateing for Un-cut Blu-Ray Vergon) Mirumo de Pon (A Anime Vergon of FOP) Doraemon (I saw some cilps in Dora World,Fujiko Pro's & Shogakukan's Main Doraemon Web Site) Gundom (Saw some Bits of MSG and SDG (Manely The Zaku Zaku Hour) on Cartoon Network) and M.Doremi (Wateing for Uncut Vergon on Blu-Ray,And you no what The "M" stands for) .
Animes that I watch'd that I don't Think of so mush ar Saler Moon (Only Watch'd becuse Everyone was watching it as well) a fue Episodes of Dragon Ball Z and Most of The 1th Season of Digimon (I only like The 1th Season,I like The Other Seasons better if Toei did'it Replase The Kids) .
And The Animes that I never Watch'd and Don't think of much about ar Anpan Man Lupin The III D.Conan (You no what The "D" Stands for) Naruto Blaech Bobobo-bobobobo Dragon Ball Classic (Saw a Fue Episodes on Cartoon Network) Dragon Ball GT (Never Watch'd it but everyone say'd it's stinks) CowBoy Bebop (Never Have'd Intrest in Show) and Neo Genesis Evolution (Same as CowBoy Bebop,I never have Intrest in that Show) .
Sorry my post is so long.
Karl Olson
12-30-2005, 01:13 AM
I think if anything ADV's been doing better by slowing down. ADV finally begun to learn what Funimation worked out back at Blue Gender: if it's a shorter series, take your time to cast it right, then get the VAs engaged in the show and lastly take your time in the booth to get good performances out of the VAs. As Funimation's honed that technique, they've gotten some dubs that are shockingly emotive and well-acted, and they've gotten those performances out of the VAs that ADV couldn't seem to get anything special out of. ADV's finally kind of picking up on that, and the result is less titles, but they are a lot better titles to watch (Princess Tutu being the best example of that so far, resulting in an amazing enjoyable dub and feature loaded DVD that is a joy to own and watch.) If anything, ADV should keep the slowed down aquisition pace, and focus on developing and promoting less titles but with better packaging, DVD features and dub quality. The few titles they've tried that on end up being their best work, and they'll sell more discs in the long term, and if they do with the right series, they'll get more titles on more mainstream outlets.
If anything, ADV's increase in quality, if persued properly through out there future titles, will put them ahead of Geneon (which has been near extraless on all too many titles lately, even ones they co-funded.) Bandai and Funimation might still have a leg up on them because they so rarely cheat on quality any where in the process these days, particularly on the type of titles ADV, Bandai and Funi all compete on (26 and less episode series.) However, ADV can't slack off or else they are back to being behind the LA companies (even Geneon because Geneon tends to have more listenable and televisable dubs.
Basically, I'd rather them not get into a title back log again, and I'd like to see them keep at translation that doesn't get bogged down with a lot of extra nonsense and make DVDs with useful extras. If every DVD they make is like Abenobashi or better still a Princess Tutu (IE: well-translated with with thoughtfully directed and rehearsed dubs,) they'll be in great shape, regardless of how many titles they release per year.
ADV's extras are really nothing noteworthy
Maybe, but their actor/director commentaries are LOL hilarious, and the dvd itself would seem bare w/o some sort of extra's.
Hades
12-30-2005, 08:31 AM
The reason ADV hasn't announced any hot grabbers is because there is simply nothing out there. My-Hime and Gankutsuou were it last year, and this year has absolutely nothing good.
Oh, and ADV has been releasing Gilgamesh, and that series rocks.
Conan-san
12-30-2005, 08:52 AM
Those I agree with.
Though Guyver sems like a Media Blasters title. I thought Guyver was pre-licenced to ADV.
Nobuyuki sama
12-30-2005, 09:18 AM
Prediction time! ;)
Blood +Manga
AirNot.
Sousei no Aquarion Bandai, or failing that, Geneon
Fighting Beauty
Amaenai de Yo!!Media Blasters
Paradise KissGeneon
Magical Girl: Lyrical Nanoha
Magical Girl: Lyrical Nanoha A's.No idea.
But I agree that FMP:TSR and Guyver are ADV surebets.
KasumiTen
12-30-2005, 11:39 AM
With their success with Azumanga Daioh I am surprised that ADV hasn't picked up School Rumble. It seems like a title that is right up their alley.
Rahxepy
12-30-2005, 11:45 AM
With their success with Azumanga Daioh I am surprised that ADV hasn't picked up School Rumble. It seems like a title that is right up their alley.
I forgot about school rumble, I'd like ADV to get that over Fighting beauty anyday.
JShaggy
12-30-2005, 03:55 PM
With their success with Azumanga Daioh I am surprised that ADV hasn't picked up School Rumble. It seems like a title that is right up their alley.Agreed, especially considering ADV's history with Media Factory (RahXephon, Gravion). Then again, it's possible that Geneon may try to get the series also.
TnAdct1
12-30-2005, 11:15 PM
Agreed, especially considering ADV's history with Media Factory (RahXephon, Gravion). Then again, it's possible that Geneon may try to get the series also. Or Funimation, since it is based on a manga that appears in Shonen Weekly, a manga magazine that also includes Beck, Tsubasa (both of which Funi is rumored to have), and Negima (which Funi does have).
EDIT: Oops, wrong magazine.
Classic Speedy
12-30-2005, 11:52 PM
Same dub casts in every show for one. True, but don't knock them all. While some of the VAs don't experiment with range very much (Tiffany Grant, Jason Douglas, as much as I like some of their roles, they tend to play the same characters over and over), there are others who really run the gamut and do a good job at masking their voices. I mean, I've often done a double-take when I read the credits and see that a certain character was voiced by Jessica Boone or Kira Vincent Davis, and then compare that role from other stuff they've done previously. Plus they've been hiring new VAs lately.
Second, a lot of ADVs series tend to add needless cursing. To be honest, the only ADV title that I've noticed this problem with was Puni Puni Poemy, though Cutey Honey had its fare share as well (they said b*tch WAY too much). Now granted I haven't seen EVERY title that ADV has put out, but in most of the titles I've watched, I haven't seen it out of context very much. I guess I'd be more concerned if they added lots of cursing to something like, say, Azumanga Daioh.
Third, Their flimsy DVD packaging. Yeah, they splurge on big moneymakers like Evangelion, but seriously, even Bandai gives crappy shows better DVD releases. look at Avenger, it came in a ****ing tin with art cels. And yes, this is a big deal, because apart from the final 2 episodes, Avenger sucks hard. I'd like to see ADV give me some good DVD boxes.
I sertainly would have appreciated something other than just paper thin cardboard for Gravion/Zwei.
And yes, I do realize that ADV has been getting better about this lately with Godannar, Loki, etc, but that doesn't make up for their past. Yet. Hey, I'm just thankful that ADV has seemed to reduce their use of Alpha cases, which make taking discs out a grueling affair. And like you said, their recent artboxes and packaging have been quite good. They may have made mistakes in the past, but that's no reason to hold a grudge.
Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid. http://www.tdd-1.com/ Unless something goes awry, I'd say this is a sure thing for ADV, seeing as how they got the first two series and did a fine job.
Basically, I'd rather them not get into a title back log again, and I'd like to see them keep at translation that doesn't get bogged down with a lot of extra nonsense and make DVDs with useful extras. If every DVD they make is like Abenobashi or better still a Princess Tutu (IE: well-translated with with thoughtfully directed and rehearsed dubs,) they'll be in great shape, regardless of how many titles they release per year. While the show itself isn't that good, Maburaho has had some good special features as well. The interview with the series translator in volume 1 offered a lot of nice info, as did the picture-in-picture commentaries. I like their next episode previews, too. Really whets your appetite for a new volume.... if you're a fan of the show, that is.
I mean, I've often done a double-take when I read the credits and see that a certain character was voiced by Jessica Boone or Kira Vincent Davis, and then compare that role from other stuff they've done previously.Not to mention Monica Rial. That girl has amazing range for someone who should be in a straightjacket. :P
Plus, there are other good dubs from ADV. Though Hilary Haag can get annoying at times, I did enjoy the dub of Chrno Crusade. Legend of the Mystical Ninja has a great dub, as does Grrl Power. I also like their dub of Cromartie.
Thank god for that. Alpha-style cases are simply awful designs that should have been scrapped years ago. Now if only somebody would sell white or clear 2-disc Amaray cases, then I could replace my Nadesico ones.
[quote]While the show itself isn't that good, Maburaho has had some good special features as well. The interview with the series translator in volume 1 offered a lot of nice info, as did the picture-in-picture commentaries. I like their next episode previews, too. Really whets your appetite for a new volume.... if you're a fan of the show, that is.Yea, Angelic Layer's commentaries are pretty good too, with Monica Rial being Monica Rial and all. Grrl Power had a crapload of extras, and even a low-key release like Mystical Ninja has an interview and a commentary in every disc. Plus, they actually work on DVD inserts, which just about no other company ever does anymore, anime or not.
While I like the idea of the next volume preview, FUNi does it better by not having what seems like random clips put together. If ADV just put some narration into the clips, it would be infinitely better.
JShaggy
12-31-2005, 12:25 PM
Hey, I'm just thankful that ADV has seemed to reduce their use of Alpha cases, which make taking discs out a grueling affair.What's an Alpha case? They wouldn't happen to be those plastic cases similar to those used in some of their earlier Complete Collection releases (prior to thinpaks), would they?
What's an Alpha case? They wouldn't happen to be those plastic cases similar to those used in some of their earlier Complete Collection releases (prior to thinpaks), would they?Alpha packs have the 6 holders surrounding a hollow circle to hold the DVD in, and in multi-pack sets also have the giant nub with two holder-thingies. Amaray cases, which have the yin-yang holders & swinging hinges, are much better.
Any company willing to redub Macross and Gatchaman is OK in my book.
Depending on the success of Macross (Since Gatchaman has proved to be something of a hit) ADV might spend a lot of 2006 buying older shows to save money.
Classic Speedy
01-01-2006, 11:11 AM
ADV might spend a lot of 2006 buying older shows to save money. Indeed. I hope they release the Dirty Pair TV series in a thinpak like they did for the OVAs and movies. Seriously, the more I see of the ORIGINAL DP, the more I love it, and the more I hate the Flash remake.
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