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One Radical Dude
12-17-2005, 04:43 PM
Could King Kong become the biggest bomb of the 2005 box office? (http://www.postchronicle.com/news/entertainment/article_2121993.shtml)


Peter Jackson's "King Kong (http://www.postchronicle.com/news/entertainment/article_2121993.shtml#)", took in $9.8-million (U.S.) domestically in its first day, solid for a Wednesday debut but far below the king-size premieres of other action epics, reports the Globe and Mail (http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/1-0&fp=43a24911883d7ae5&ei=LRyiQ-7dJqmQFoDj7e0F&url=http%3A//www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051215.wkong1215/BNStory/Entertainment/&cid=1102996794). MCA Universal, the film's distributor, called it a good beginning that will generate audience word-of-mouth on top of stellar reviews for "King Kong."

Jackson's "The Lord of the Rings (http://www.postchronicle.com/news/entertainment/article_2121993.shtml#)" film, "The Fellowship of the Ring," opened on a Wednesday in December 2001 with $18.2-million, nearly double the take of "King Kong."

His second installment, "The Two Towers," debuted on a Wednesday a year later with $26.2-million, while Jackson's final offering, "The Return of the King (http://www.postchronicle.com/news/entertainment/article_2121993.shtml#)," opened with $34.5-million the next year, a record for a Wednesday debut until "Spider-Man 2" broke it later that year with $40.4-million.


The hardly 'Kong' like number of $9.8-million gross puts "King Kong" at No. 21 on the all-time list of best Wednesday debuts, just behind "Catch Me If You Can" and ahead of "Armageddon." The knock on the film seems to be the length. Moviehole (http://www.moviehole.net/reviews/20051216_king_kong.html) has this to say about it: "Why, oh why, did Jackson think that the remake needed to be twice as long then? It most certainly doesn’t. For all intents and purposes, it tells exactly the same story, just more indolently, and the first 75 minutes or so? As uninteresting as watching paint dry."

Analysts say "Kong" could follow the steady pattern of "Titanic," which had a comparatively modest $28.6-million opening weekend but stayed alive long enough to become the biggest-grossing modern film at $600-million domestically and $1.8-billion worldwide.

Boxofficemojo.com, which is known for tracking movie grosses, estimates a $58-million opening weekend for "King Kong." Variety counters with a reports that says industry expectations see the film's prospects at a bit less than the $65.6-million debut of last weekend's "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.I see that when Titanic first premiered, it started off slowly, but it managed to become the biggest movie in ticket sales. So, what do you guys think? Could it happen for this film? Is anyone surprised?

g_UnIt_GaNsTa
12-17-2005, 04:49 PM
It's been three days since the movie came out.

Silly McGooses
12-17-2005, 04:51 PM
This is no Titanic.

That said, I think it's unfair to call it a bomb; it's just that the expectations were completely absurd and unjustifiably high.

shoujoaifan
12-17-2005, 04:58 PM
How many kids have actually seen the orinigal? Its possible that alot of them only know of him through various jokes (like any homage/spoofs of it on tv) and school-yard jokes/insults when on the monkey bars?

He's a classic, an institution.....which might be part of it. Movie goers are used to weird, corny, or even somtimes stupid ideas (although most of Hollywood's stuff is stupid). And people are used to high end graphic nowadays, BUT might not be able to believe that a remake of a film about a giant gorilla will be good, even with up-to-date special effects.

Realistically, alot of people probably only think of King Kong climbing a tower with a woman, fighting the planes, and then dying, thinking its a happy ending and that he was villian, and that it was a corny movie that would be a waste of their time for a remake.

Silly McGooses
12-17-2005, 05:06 PM
People are comparing the opening day to ROTK and saying how dissapointing it is, but let's notice that on Friday, KK was just $7 million less than ROTK's first Friday. This movie has growing appeal; the general public just didn't want to see a movie on a wednesday night in the middle of the cold and winter, and it didn't have a very big pre-existing rabid fanbase. The $9 million opening was very weak, and the movie's bound to do tens of millions less than expected, but the $14 million Friday is a start. It's a 126% increase from thursday, where Return of the King had only a 28% from increase from Thursday, and STILL had good legs.


p.s. I ripped the % stats and ROTK info from Boxofficemojo.com

One Radical Dude
12-17-2005, 05:07 PM
It will be #1 this weekend (no doubt), but how well will this film do at the end? From what I understand, this remake costed over $200 million. I brought it up because it was expected to do much better during its first days. We'll learn more about the numbers soon.

AdamYJ
12-17-2005, 05:22 PM
It opened in the middle of the week. That doesn't really help it. Also, what's the big deal if it doesn't make a lot of money? No sequel? It's King Kong. It's not supposed to have a sequel. Maybe Peter Jackson's career will stumble just a little, but he can still ride off of LotR's popularity.

Caffeine King
12-17-2005, 06:50 PM
I find it so annoying that the second that these numbers came out people were claiming King Kong to be a "big flop"

The film is three hours long and it came out on a Wednesday, everyone who wants to see it can't drop everything for three hours to go see it. :shrug:

I thought the film was amazing and I think it'll get big numbers for this weekend come Monday.

Squall
12-17-2005, 07:38 PM
King Kong should have come out in the Summer, not the Fall. That being said, though, this movie will still make huge profits, not the least of which will be when the DVD is released. :)

Hero Supreme
12-17-2005, 07:40 PM
King Kong should have come out in the Summer, not the Fall. That being said, though, this movie will still make huge profits, not the least of which will be when the DVD is released. :)
i have already heard rumors of a LOTResq directors cut dvd to follow the theatrical cut. so im sure the double dip will be in full effect.

Tapout
12-17-2005, 08:31 PM
i have already heard rumors of a LOTResq directors cut dvd to follow the theatrical cut. so im sure the double dip will be in full effect.I enjoyed the movie enough to purchase it on DVD when its released, but if they find some way to make it even longer I won't buy it. They could have easily cut it down by at least half an hour. They already damn near doubled the running time of the original.

Hero Supreme
12-17-2005, 09:21 PM
I enjoyed the movie enough to purchase it on DVD when its released, but if they find some way to make it even longer I won't buy it. They could have easily cut it down by at least half an hour. They already damn near doubled the running time of the original.
according to EW, over 300 completed effects shots were cut. the magazine also outlines several cut scense that jackson may restore.

Brettfern
12-17-2005, 09:22 PM
Looks like King Kong is making some big big big big big Kong bucks!

Tapout
12-17-2005, 10:03 PM
according to EW, over 300 completed effects shots were cut. the magazine also outlines several cut scense that jackson may restore.
An edited/deleted scenes feature in the extras section is one thing. Adding 55 minutes to the movie like ROTK is quite another. But then again, if it is "Kong stuff" and not more unnecessary filler like the first hour of the movie, then it could be worth watching.

Silly McGooses
12-17-2005, 10:06 PM
I went to see it again tonight; the theater was so packed you couldn't move. Lots of crowd reaction, too. I think it will have great word-of-mouth.

PeppeRaskell1
12-17-2005, 10:50 PM
Okay, so it didn't rake in the big bucks yet, but after all, it's only been out for a day or two.

And don't forget. In addition to the film being released in the middle of the week, people are still doing their Christmas shopping. But I'm sure everyone will eventually go to see it.

First early morning matinee of Kong I see, I'm there.

Strollymonster
12-18-2005, 04:33 PM
Despite all of the negativity here, King Kong came out #1 this weekend with earnings below studio estimates but consistent with analyst opinions, as reported (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=156889) by our friend The Clown Prince.

I think we can look foreward to more sales for the movie, especially with all the free time coming the way of the American peoples for Xmas and New Years.

James Harvey
12-18-2005, 04:35 PM
With The Clown Prince's weekly Weekend Box Office Report (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=156889) now online, we can continue any discussion on the box office in the appropriate thread. Thread Closed.