How many Season 4 episodes of TMNT have aired so far? [Archive]

Simpler Simon

12-16-2005, 09:54 PM

Beyond the initial question, what does everyone think of season 4 so far?

For me, the improvements from the season openers to now are noticible. I could barely tolerate the first few stories, whereas the show is now finally taking advantage of that Shredder-less void and looking at new directions to explore.

I'm liking the Leonardo story thread. It was a little iffy at first, but the gradual build-up to last week's payoff has been good. Ninja Turtles likes to tease viewers with hints to upcoming storylines (gang violence news reports, donny's modem buzzing), and this is the first time where the hints didnt seem arbitrarily shoved in with the sole purpose to tease.

I guess the only complaint is that the major storylines involving Bishop and Karai havent picked up yet, whereas the previous seasons packed a lot into the first half. In fact we havent gotten any multi-part episodes yet, which is surprising.

Hades

12-16-2005, 10:45 PM

I've been enjoying almost every episode so far. I liked how we had a break for a while from stories relating to the Foot and Purple Dragons because it was like a resting point. Now they are starting to go back to the main series' goals and stuff. I also knew they had plans for Leo with the way they had him act. Last week's was just awesome. My only concern is is the next episode going to have Leo still traning with the AO, or he is going to take place after he has come back?

It's a shame they are taking a break, but oh well, it was due time. I have a feeling that Season 5 will be the "be all end all season" with the series finale. After all, with 5 seasons (assuming there is a 5th) of 26 episodes each, I think this series is truly worthy of a finale rather than just continue on until they run out of ideas and start reusing old plots (like the original TMNT did). THis series has even out done the DC series unless you combine them all into one.

I wonder if they'll do anything special for the 100th episode next year.

Aztec

12-17-2005, 12:41 AM

FYI Hades: Laird already confirmed Season 6!

I'm liking this season so far as a whole. It would be nice to see a multi-part arc in the not too distant future. I'd also like to see the show focus more on Kari, Hun, and Bishop. There's plenty of stories to be told from these characters.

nowlight

12-17-2005, 01:42 AM

Been watching as much as I can, and They have 15+ years worth of stuff so I dont seen them running out of ideas anytime soon.

Anyone think that we will see stuff from Vol 4 comic in the new toon?

Mandi-chan

12-17-2005, 07:32 AM

I've loved every moment of it! :D

Hades

12-17-2005, 07:51 AM

NightwingAngelo

12-17-2005, 08:55 AM

The season started off very slow, but I know thats because (liek mentioned above) they want to ease off a bit of the momentum from the final battle with Shredder, which really is still sort of humming in the background.

With the last half of the season upon us, I'm guess it's time to get ready again for the roller-coaster that this TMNT is. The stories have bee great, but I doubt the best is even upond us yet.

Karai, Hun, Rat King, Bishop, and that huge thing that Donny turns into (if you're wondering why he's getting so few lines now, they're trying to catch us off guard with this one--Nothing to worry about ;) ). Of course there's the Foot Mystics back now (planning some revenge/backstabbing of Karai perhaps), the newly Karai trained and better improved Foot, and the ever annoying Baxter Stockman.

There's probably no way they can fit all this into Season 4.

As for Leo and the Ancient one, hopefully they'll have him stay in Japan for a while so that they can focus more on the other Turtles and Splinter.:cool:

Rahxepy

12-17-2005, 10:21 AM

Well the next part of season 4 will continue March 25 2006.

CyberCubed

12-17-2005, 11:26 AM

Indeed, I agree that the first four episodes of the season were slow.

But right after that we got excellent episodes like "Dragon's Brew", "I Monster", "Grudge Match", "All Hallows Thieves", "Bad Day", "Aliens Among us", and so on.

I also liked what they did with Leo. It wasn't just blown off easily either, such as having Usagi reason with him. I'm hoping we haven't seen the last of Leo's angst either, as Karai hates his guts now and I would love to see the two go all out on each other.

The show has also become slightly more episodic, since Season 3 actually. Season 1 and 2 had a gazillion multiparters, and the single episodes were mostly fillers. However Season 3 and 4 are vastly different than the first two in structure, where there are less multiparters (or none so far whatsoever, Season 4), and the single part episodes are just as important as the multipart ones.

And besides, we still have 12 episodes left of the season. That's plenty of time to devote to the Karai/Bishop/Hun story arcs they have developing.

Dark Fact

12-17-2005, 12:49 PM

Well the next part of season 4 will continue March 25 2006.
Holy guacamole! :eek: That's quite a wait!

Usually they resume the rest of the season in February.

I wonder if they'll do anything special for the 100th episode next year.
I bet dollars to donuts that 4Kids will have something special for the turtles 100th episode.

4KIDS announcer: "It's the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 100th episode!!!"

Michaelangelo: "Cool!"

4KIDS announcer: "And this week, 5 lucky viewers will have a chance to win $100!!!!"

It might go something like that! :)

Anarky

12-17-2005, 01:44 PM

I'm digging Season 4
in addition to more Bishop, Stockman, Hun, & Karai, we're going to see the return of Renet, perhaps more Elintean beasties, and maybe a follow-up on April's lost Uncle Auggie...a people have been buzzing about Don's freak-out.

tmnt is on hiatus until March?!?!? CORN NUTS!:mad:

Storm Eagle

12-17-2005, 02:02 PM

Well the next part of season 4 will continue March 25 2006.
Where might you have seen that information?

Aztec

12-17-2005, 07:53 PM

CyberCubed

12-17-2005, 09:00 PM

I hope the 100th episode is actually a good one.

For some reason I'm fearing that episode 100 will be some crappy clip show. :shrug:

Storm Eagle

12-17-2005, 10:49 PM

http://4kids.tv/tmnt/

March 25th is when the TMNT will have their 100th episode. The new episodes will start sometime in January.

As you can see from the link above, 4Kids is already promoting the TMNT's 100th.Okay. See, from what you said earlier, it sounded to me like the fourth season would resume on March 25.

Aztec

12-18-2005, 11:08 AM

Okay. See, from what you said earlier, it sounded to me like the fourth season would resume on March 25.
That wasn't me, that was Rahexpy. I posted this to clear it up.

I said that the new episodes will start in late January/early February. I don't have an exact date but this appears correct. By the END of season 4 there will be 104 episodes. Since 14 have already shown that means there are 6 more episodes until it hits 100. So it will probably resume in late January/early February.

NightwingAngelo

12-18-2005, 12:47 PM

Indeed, I agree that the first four episodes of the season were slow.

But right after that we got excellent episodes like "Dragon's Brew", "I Monster", "Grudge Match", "All Hallows Thieves", "Bad Day", "Aliens Among us", and so on.
Yeah, I forgot to mention that.

I totally agree with all the ones mentioned above, especially "I Monster" and "Grudge Match" which were one of my favourite episodes of the whole series. Rat King was nicely done I'd say (in a freaky sort of way), and Mikey showing off some of his potenial in that rematch vs. Kluh is an episode I'll never forget. I also liked the episode "Dragon's Rising", and Leo's totally unexpected explosion at the end.

This show just keeps on getting better and better, and the experience the writers are developing and the ever-improving animation quality, IMO, shows that this show is no where near done.

CyberCubed

12-18-2005, 01:29 PM

Storm Eagle

12-18-2005, 05:11 PM

That wasn't me, that was Rahexpy. I posted this to clear it up.

I said that the new episodes will start in late January/early February. I don't have an exact date but this appears correct. By the END of season 4 there will be 104 episodes. Since 14 have already shown that means there are 6 more episodes until it hits 100. So it will probably resume in late January/early February.
Ah, right. My bad.

Actually, there would be eight more episodes to go until the 100th. We got the 92nd episode earlier this month on the 10th. So since the 100th is scheduled to premiere on March 25 of next year, this season may resume on February 4.

Simpler Simon

12-18-2005, 05:31 PM

The premise for Season 5 scares the hell out of me though. If it's not written well, Season 5 can quite frankly jump the shark. Spending an entire season 99 years in the future is really a trainwreck waiting to happen. :shrug:
Was it confirmed it was an entire season? When the news first broke there was speculation it could end up being another season-opener multi-parter.

Something else I'm eagerly awaiting in season 4:

Stockman's rebirth into his old, augmented corpse. Coolest TMNT character design ever

CyberCubed

12-18-2005, 08:33 PM

Was it confirmed it was an entire season? When the news first broke there was speculation it could end up being another season-opener multi-parter.

I e-mailed Dan Berger about it, and he said it was pretty much the entire season.

Gah, I hope that doesn't mean we won't see April, Casey, Splinter or any of the other characters for an entire season. That would suck.

The idea of the TMNT stuck in the future isn't exactly thrilling either, especially since the Future TMNT won't even be in most of it. And the "kids" that the TMNT will be training isn't reassuring either. :shrug:

Aztec

12-18-2005, 10:02 PM

I e-mailed Dan Berger about it, and he said it was pretty much the entire season.

Gah, I hope that doesn't mean we won't see April, Casey, Splinter or any of the other characters for an entire season. That would suck.

The idea of the TMNT stuck in the future isn't exactly thrilling either, especially since the Future TMNT won't even be in most of it. And the "kids" that the TMNT will be training isn't reassuring either. :shrug:
Yeah, I'm not terribly excited about this either. The jump the shark possibilities seem awfully high here.

Hades

12-18-2005, 11:22 PM

What's this 99 years thing you guys are talking about?

NightwingAngelo

12-19-2005, 10:21 AM

What's this 99 years thing you guys are talking about?
I have no idea, but after reading some of this 99 years into the future stuff, I'm not sure I want to know. :ack:

Hopefully it's not going to be anything that'll turn me off.

CyberCubed

12-19-2005, 11:06 AM

What's this 99 years thing you guys are talking about?

It's what Season 5 is about. The Turtles will accidentally get thrust to a New York 99 years in the future.

If this was just a miniarc I'd have no problem with it. Turtles in Space was a 5 parter which was fine, and the Ultimate Draco arc where the Turtles all went to different dimensions was only a 5 parter so it was fine.

But the fact that Dan Berger confirmed that this is pretty much an entire season is what annoys the hell out of me. :shrug: I just cannot possibly fanthom how they can make 26 episodes set in the future.

Hopefully we get more info on this soon, maybe the Turtles will be able to get back to present time for a few episodes or something.

NightwingAngelo

12-19-2005, 11:49 AM

Shoot! That's what I very much feared. Shouldn't have come back to read this thread.

I don't know how they can pull that one off without turning some of us away.:sad: Hopefully they'll start off in the early part of the Season, and then be sent back to near the middle to end of it.... if this is what's really going to happen.
13 episodes at most and I'd be fine with me.

A full season, I'm hoping is a sligtht exaggeration on his part.

CyberCubed

12-19-2005, 12:28 PM

Hopefully he means it's a theme. Like "Mutants and Monsters" was "all of Season 4", but it's really nothing out of the question for this show.

Because if the TMNT are in the future for an entire season, that means we won't even see Splinter, April, Casey or any of the other supporting characters for a whole season.

This can either turn out to be a total disastor or be something good, but I'm a bit worried. Something tells me Playmates pressured 4kids into this.

sdp

12-19-2005, 12:42 PM

^^^
I don't know, the concept could work, I liked the way TmNT traveled into the past in TMNT 3 (movie) and the Arcade Turtles in Time was a lot of fun and i'd love to see it in animated form, of course this is only set apparently in the future, but they probably haven't told us some of the things that are going to make it interesting to not spoil it.

I bet dollars to donuts that 4Kids will have something special for the turtles 100th episode.

4KIDS announcer: "It's the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 100th episode!!!"

Michaelangelo: "Cool!"

4KIDS announcer: "And this week, 5 lucky viewers will have a chance to win $100!!!!"

It might go something like that! :)
man i read that and the announcer and mikes voice actor just came in my mind and read them in those horrible ways those promos always are:anime::anime:

Simpler Simon

12-19-2005, 02:10 PM

^^^
I don't know, the concept could work, I liked the way TmNT traveled into the past in TMNT 3 (movie) and the Arcade Turtles in Time was a lot of fun and i'd love to see it in animated form
Agreed. I was dreading this when it was first announced, but it could turn out to be interesting. I know theres a lot of TMNT stories yet to be adapted, but we've spent 4 seasons grounded in the same reality. The show could probably still be interesting, but a little time off could inject more energy into the series. Plus the overall tone of season 4 seems to be a "winding down" season - the new story threads could plausibly be finished by the season's end.

Only two things could ruin season 5 for me:

-return of shredder, just because its the future
-permanant kid sidekicks

who wants to bet 4Kids already asked for both of the above?

Hades

12-19-2005, 06:47 PM

I still have no idea what exactly you guys are talking about, but it sounds interesting. What was/is supposed to happen in this arc? So, they get sent to the future, what's in the future? Has it been taken over by the Shredder ala Don's transporting episode, what?

Oh, and I have no problem with Shredder returning, as long as it isn't the Utrom Shredder, but someone else wearing the mask and using the name. Maybe Kurai's son or something.

Simpler Simon

12-19-2005, 07:47 PM

This was taken from the Playmates 2006 toy release schedule, posted on the Nov 4th news column on the official website: I believe this is the only thing we have to go on thus far.

Fall action figure releases:
TMNT: "Fast Forward" - The Turtles are accidentally thrust 99 years into the future where Manhattan Island is a settling point for numerous alien species from all over the galaxy. When the TMNT find themselves thrust into a "dark" future, they must team up with Cody Jones, descendant of the Turtles’ former ally.

NightwingAngelo

12-19-2005, 09:38 PM

This was taken from the Playmates 2006 toy release schedule, posted on the Nov 4th news column on the official website: I believe this is the only thing we have to go on thus far.

Quote:
Fall action figure releases:
TMNT: "Fast Forward" - The Turtles are accidentally thrust 99 years into the future where Manhattan Island is a settling point for numerous alien species from all over the galaxy. When the TMNT find themselves thrust into a "dark" future, they must team up with Cody Jones, descendant of the Turtles’ former ally.
Hmm... Well, I hope this is an older guy named Cody, and not one of those 10 "year old buddy" team up things. That would be brutal if they decide to all of a sudden kiddie this show down, as I love it for the mostly the opposite reason. :ack:

As for the futuristic arc... well, I think it could work out if they somehow do what JLU did, with the "A Better World" multi-parter and the Cadmus Arc. It'd be a little longer and different, but if they have it that they're in the future and they when they're there they realise that they need to go back to the present to prevent something from happening, then I won't complain too much. And of course, a villain making his way back with them.

This is such a fragile situation. Like many decision, they can either do it good, barely escape, or do themselves into an uncleanable mess.

Hopefully they find a way to do either do it good, or barely escape like the "Turtles in Space" arc that I actually didn't mind. I mean, it's opened up a lot of possibilities now with the Triceratons and stuff.

The down, of course: Will April, Casey, and Splinter be going with them? What of the show's ville villains?

Well, I guess we're getting a bit too far ahead of ourselves, eh? I'm willing to enjoy the season, though admittedly this is a topic of interest -

They will either succeed or fall flat on their face is what I think. Yeah, I know, playing it safe with that prediction. ;)

CyberCubed

12-19-2005, 10:08 PM

Only two things could ruin season 5 for me:

-return of shredder, just because its the future
-permanant kid sidekicks

who wants to bet 4Kids already asked for both of the above?

Oh god, you're probably right. 4kids will probably throw Shredder in Season 5, since Playmates and 4kids love him and want to market him again.

And gah, we will have kid sidekicks. Dan Berger said that the TMNT will be "training" kids, (whether these are alien kids or human kids he didn't say, heck maybe they're even mutant kids), but that doesn't give a good vibe.

Damn, I want SHADOW to be in the show. Shadow Jones (April and Casey's daughter) would be a great character if done correctly (I love teenage Shadow from the comics), I hate the fact that they're using Cody Jones instead. (Is Cody a boy or girl's name?)

Well...I guess this sorta confirms that Casey and April get together. :p

Dark Fact

12-19-2005, 10:56 PM

People, people. Let's not forget that Peter Laird is still serving as executive producer on this show. He still needs to approve of all the scripts that go through before they make it on the air. If he feels that something isn't right with the turtles for this season, he'll say it isn't. I won't write this next season off as a shark jumper just about yet.

Ian

12-19-2005, 11:10 PM

What is it about advance TMNT info that makes people pessimistic? Yeah, I can see how a season-long change in the status quo could suck, but, given what we know about the story and what we know of the series, I don't see the need to go looking out for the Fonz just yet.

Personally, I can see some benefits from this, especially as it relates to the show's rogues gallery. As of now, the show's stable of rogues is in the precarious position of being undefeatable--they're just too important to the universe to be disposed of in the same way Oroku Saki or Drako were. Changing the status quo solves this problem in several ways: it revitalizes the pool of enemies for the turtles (a pool which has been drying off since Season 3, althought the writers have managed admirably so far); it allows them to simultaneously close story threads in the future while leaving them open in the present; and it has the chance to bring all the disparate elements of the TMNTverse together, which isn't currently possible.

Could Season 5 suck? Sure it can. Me, I'm hoping it becomes the show's answer to Gargoyles 2198, and I'm confident that the writing staff can provide that.

Thoughts on the current season later.