Naruto Part 2: The Road to Sasuke (MANGA SPOILERS Ch. 288+) [Archive]

Teek

12-16-2005, 01:47 PM

Since the previous "Part Two" thread has grown to ginormous proportions a new thread was probably for the best.

Where we are: The new "Team Kakashi" consisting of Naruto, Sakura, Yamato and Sai are traveling to the Grass Country to the Heaven and Earth Bridge. There they plan to meet a spy who worked for Akatsuki member Sasori. With Sasori's death, Konoha learned this spy was working undercover alongside Orochimaru, keeping track on him. Konoha hopes if they impersonate the now dead Sasori, they can meet the spy and learn two things: information about Orochimaru's location so they can plan his assassination, and also to finally retrieve Sasuke before Orochimaru takes over his body.

The new Team Kakashi consists of two new ninja to the series:

"Yamato" a highly respected ANBU who was recommended to Tsunade by Kakashi. Yamato is able to use Mokuton (tree release) techniques, and he wears a forehead protector similar to Nidaime Hokage. These possibily reveal a genetic connection between the Konoha founders and Yamato, with Yamato being the grandchild or great-grandchild of one of these men.

The other team member is "Sai" a "Root" ANBU member, who lacks emotion and has alternate orders by the Root leader Danzou, who opposed Sandaime Hokage and was up for the Hokage position alongside Sarutobi. Because of Sai's blunt personality and lack of people skills, he and Naruto have butted heads. Sai has told Sakura and Naruto that Uchiha Sasuke was a traitor to the village and trash. Neither ninja took such words well, even if they are true. Sai likes to paint and carries a small picture book bearing drawings of himself and his older brother. The book belongs to his older brother and we have yet to learn his identity.

Mog

12-16-2005, 03:07 PM

It's looking pretty good so far. Sai isn't much of a team player, but Yamato is pretty cool. I still think Naruto should be much stronger after 3 years of training with Jir. He just seems so weak, getting caught up in that snake skill and being helpless. I really hope he does somthing worthwhile in the future.

KuwabaraTheMan

12-16-2005, 03:36 PM

This was an interesting chapter, seeing some more abilities of Yamato and Sai. Naruto and Sai certainly don't seem to be working well together at all, and Naruto still has a long way to go in battle abilities.

LiquidXIR

12-16-2005, 07:46 PM

Sai calling Sasuke a traitor was the highlight of the past years worth of chapters

KuwabaraTheMan

12-22-2005, 12:47 PM

OMFG!

Kabuto! Orochimaru!

This series is finally getting to the big boys. Can't wait to find out what's up now.

Timmay

12-22-2005, 12:56 PM

Here we go main storyline!

Teek

12-22-2005, 01:43 PM

Still unclear whether Kabuto is acting the part of the spy and knows this is fake or really think Yamato is Sasori. In any case, the continued mention of Sai's brother and the spy being Kabuto leads me to heavily believe the theory they're related.

Youko Recca

12-22-2005, 03:44 PM

I like where this is going. I was laughing at how Orochimaru looked at the end though.

Teek

12-22-2005, 04:32 PM

Maybe it is just me, but that looked more old school Kishimoto style Orochimaru than the way he was drawing Orochimaru in the Sasuke arc.

Youko Recca

12-22-2005, 05:13 PM

Well I wasn't dissing the quality or anything(cause it is nice), but I suppose I can agree with that. I was just talking about Orochimaru himself. Looking all....yeah, just, in a way, funny. The way he's expressing himself.

Teek

12-22-2005, 05:17 PM

Yeah he looked like a nutbar there. But what about this thought, that isn't Orochimaru but Sasuke!?! :eek: I think Orochimaru already having taken over Sasuke's body would be a huge shock to the fanbase.

Rahxepy

12-22-2005, 05:39 PM

That is Sasuke. That Orochimaru is too young looking. Yuck :sad: . I was expecting something bigger than this Oh well :shrug: .

Timmay

12-22-2005, 05:44 PM

I had the same thought.. Orochi is lookin' kinda young.

GWOtaku

12-22-2005, 07:01 PM

Orochimaru looks younger because he transferred into that other guy's body that was young back in the Sasuke arc. Besides, we've seen that he has a considerable amount of control over his appearence.

Come on now. Do you guys really think Kishimoto would unceremoniously off Sasuke like this? Out of the reader's view? Not a chance in hell.

Teek

12-22-2005, 08:15 PM

Perhaps, and then the arc wouldn't exactly be a retred of hunting down Sasuke, instead it would more or less be for finding a way to force Orochimaru out of Sasuke's body.

Conekiller

12-23-2005, 01:17 AM

Man, Sai is irritating the hell outta me....-__-

Reket

12-23-2005, 05:18 PM

Just read this one. Finally it's getting back to Orochimaru and company, it's always interesting around that guy.

Oh, and disliking Sai very much.

Teek

12-30-2005, 01:33 PM

Chapter 290 has been released. *shock* Well it's not too surprising that Orochimaru and Kabuto were playing Sasori. Seeing the team jump into action was nice, I want to see how Yamato and Sai do in a real fight.

KuwabaraTheMan

12-30-2005, 03:47 PM

Never trust Kabuto on anything. He's going to backstab everyone in the end and be the last obstacle for Naruto.

Cool chapter, Kabuto is a great actor, and now we're going to see some fighting. Team Yamato is in serious trouble though. I doubt the can even take on Orochimaru, much less him and Kabuto. Maybe Team 8 will show up, and there actually was a reason for their appearance.

Or Akatsuki could show up to try and take down Orochimaru.
So man possibilities here.

Mog

12-30-2005, 06:29 PM

Orochi also lets out the fact that Sasuke is still alive. Other than that, I saw the Kabuto backstab coming.

Bit Cloud

12-30-2005, 10:25 PM

I still waiting for Naruto to get a girlfriend.

Youko Recca

12-30-2005, 11:08 PM

*Looks at the upper panel where Sai, Naruto, and Sakura jump down*

Damnit, I'm getting tired of that cornball's outfit. What sensible male would wear some crap like that to be a ninja, and to go on a high ranking mission? It's killing any oppurtunity for him to look badass, or even a tiny bit intimidating. Dude probally picks flowers for himself.

Conekiller

12-31-2005, 05:48 PM

I still waiting for Naruto to get a girlfriend.
Keep waiting, in case you havn't noticed, that's not ecactly a focusing point of the story. :anime:

JDNobodi

12-31-2005, 08:54 PM

Youko Recca

12-31-2005, 11:15 PM

Sai. Hopefully all his enemies aim for ALL that open. With kunais.

Teek

01-20-2006, 10:54 AM

After a long break, 291 is finally out. We find out how Yamato uses the Mokuton jutsu, and also how the Kyuubi is slowly destroying Naruto everytime he begins to lose control.

KuwabaraTheMan

01-20-2006, 10:57 AM

What an insane chapter. Yamato an experimemnt of Orochimaru. The First hokage could control bijuu(holy crap!), and the Kyuubi is actually shortening Naruto's life span.

Not to mention Naruto got a really good hit on Orochimaru there, and we get to see 3 Tails(the last form where its actually Naruto and not a mindless beast who can't distinguish between friend and foe).

Kabuto finally gets a cover page as well, and the sidetext for that furthers my long standing belief that he is the main villain.

I can't believe the 4 Tailed version actually gave a pretty big injury to Jiraiya(one that actually left a scar).

This is one of the biggest chapters of the series.

djthomp

01-20-2006, 03:35 PM

Wow, the first could control bijuu....holy crap indeed...

KuwabaraTheMan

01-20-2006, 04:33 PM

No wonder he apparently single-handedly put an end to the Shinobi Wars.

Keiichi

01-20-2006, 10:49 PM

Though we learn some interesting things it does'nt feel like much happened this chapter. Kishi wasted alot of space with Naruto throwing anouther Kyubi charged fit. You'd think Jir would have taught naruto to try and keep his anger in check and not go over board. Even though we have'nt seen much of the others it seems like Naruto has grown the least.

Timmay

01-22-2006, 02:46 AM

I think the rage and "zomg! that was amazing!" commentary was very much needed. Given the amount of people in the communities who seemed to think Naruto hasn't shown any improvement, who are now *****ing about how he's doing the kyuubi thing too much, we needed those little scenes to remind us that he's strong.

Wild Goose

01-22-2006, 07:05 AM

I have a feeling that Yamato may have some connection to "Root". If you remember the chapter where they were at the public baths, Yamato had an ANBU mask, the exact same one as the one worn by the Root ANBU who approached Sai.

Unless he was looking through Sai's things. *shrug*

Regardless, I doubt they're gonna be able to take on Orochimaru. The only person who can prolly take him one one-on-one is Itachi.

And ever since the Wave battle, Kakashi seems to have lost his coolness. He needs to get back in ANBU gear to redeem himself. :P

GWOtaku

01-22-2006, 10:43 AM

Five bucks says Orochimaru or Kabuto will be killed before this is over.

KuwabaraTheMan

01-22-2006, 11:31 AM

Five bucks says Orochimaru or Kabuto will be killed before this is over.

$20,000 says neither of them will. They're both far too important to the overall plot to die here.

Pretty much the two must significant villains in the series. We probably won't see them die until Akatsuki has been completely decimated.

Not to mention, neither of them really appeared that worried in this chapter. More amused/intrigued.

I have a feeling that Yamato may have some connection to "Root". If you remember the chapter where they were at the public baths, Yamato had an ANBU mask, the exact same one as the one worn by the Root ANBU who approached Sai.

Unless he was looking through Sai's things. *shrug*

I'm pretty sure he was going through Sai's things. He had a concerned look on his face. And I doubt Tsunade is so out of touch that her ace in the hole was actually an enemy.

JDNobodi

01-23-2006, 12:15 AM

I notice the mask a while ago but I'm in a wait and see mode about Yamato bring friend or foe. There is probably more to him and Sai than meets the eye. I wouldn't doubt Yamato betraying everybody and Sai becoming the hero.
:shrug:

KuwabaraTheMan

01-28-2006, 01:06 AM

Timmay

01-28-2006, 02:30 AM

292 was pretty crazy. Kabuto gets flung back by Naruto, but he still seems pretty confident, I doubt he's down for long. Sakura nearly dies because of Sai ignoring her, but gets saved by Yamato(looked eerily like the Spidey/Gwen Stacy bit from ASM 121, minus the neck-snapping).

And Orochimaru shows us just how much of a freak he is. Also, apparently Sasuke is even stronger then 3 Tailed Naruto. Damn.

Can't wait till next week. More great fighting, and hopefully some Kabuto goodness.

I think Orochi was just taunting Naruto. I don't see how he could be stronger than 3-tail Naruto.. atleast not Chakra wise, seeing as it's the freakin' Kyuubi.

I'm hoping my chapter 295 = Sasuke prediction comes through.. I get the feeling this won't be a very long-winded showdown either.

KuwabaraTheMan

01-28-2006, 02:47 AM

Well, in terms of power, Naruto is superior, but Naruto>everyone in terms of raw power. Its overall ability that determines things though, which is what seperates Naruto from Dragonball.

Sasuke most likely>3 Tails, even though his power can't match it.

I really can't see Sasuke showing up, especially since Sakura was ko'ed by Kabuto's butt, and Naruto is now opening the 4th Tail at the end of the chapter, meaning he's no longer in control of his own mind.

GWOtaku

01-28-2006, 02:05 PM

Looks like the mission is falling apart. Naruto inadervantly knocks out Sakura and is probably about to lose control by growing the fourth tail, and Sai is screwing the group to accomplish whatever secret mission he was charged with. So now we have Yamato on his own, who will not only have to try to suppress the Nine-tail fox chakra but will have to worry about Orochimaru even if he succeeds.

In conclusion, Naruto's dumb and Sai needs to die.

Kabuto can't even touch Naruto now, but Orochimaru not only doesn't seem worried he seems to want to encourage Naruto to unleash more power. Seems like a dangerous gamble, but he's probably figuring that the more angry he can make Naruto the better since its not doing his teammates any favors. Naruto's also fighting out of pure rage, not by strategy and calm and sharp judgement, which are essential for a ninja.

It seems to me the big theme of the arc so far is not conspiracies or Sai's idiocy or Sasuke, but the fact that Naruto still isn't nearly as developed as he needs to be. Especially if Sasuke is currently stronger then him and can be that way without flying off the handle.

Conekiller

01-28-2006, 03:49 PM

Kakashi would never put up with Sai's insubordinate bull____! I bet Yamato's gonna give him a stern talking to later.

I really hope they find a way for Naruro to eventualy not become a raging beast when he tries to access his Kyuubi chakra. It jsut doesn't seem dignified for the mai character to win fights while not in control of his own mind. and like Kuwabara said, in Naruto, the fights have always depended on who could out think the other, not who punches harder (ok... Naruto vs Sasuke.....:shrug:)

I also don't like a return to Sakura as damsel in distress. we know she's better than that now.

JDNobodi

01-28-2006, 04:02 PM

I have the feeling Sakura almost getting killed is going to be the incentive for Naruto to get better control of his kyuubi powers.

Timmay

01-28-2006, 06:00 PM

I have the feeling Sakura almost getting killed is going to be the incentive for Naruto to get better control of his kyuubi powers.
I got the feeling that that was the exact reason they had her pass out like that.

HellCat

01-30-2006, 08:50 PM

I know we're in the middle of a big story, but something I've been wondering for a while- is there any chance Naruto will get a chance to take another crack at the exam anytime soon? The fact that Naruto has been 'left in the dust' rank wise whilst people who have less talent then him earned a promotion, along with the fact Naruto needs to really show some benefit from his training, is making it difficult for me to want to get back into the story. I've discussed this with a friend and she felt putting Naruto in this position after the timejump was supposed to make him the outsider again like he was early on. I'd just like to see him get some recognition (could Tsunade pull some strings or would that violate the country relations that neccesitate the exam?)

FlyByNite77

01-30-2006, 09:18 PM

HellCat

01-30-2006, 09:21 PM

Since everyone except Naruto has been promoted I don't see them throwing Naruto into an exam without anyone we know. Maybe Tsunade will just promote him.

That is ideally what I'd like to see, but the same friend mentioned above is rather insistant that would be far out of Tsunade's power. I don't want to sit through another exam arc but I would like to see Naruto get a promotion that befits him.

KuwabaraTheMan

01-30-2006, 09:32 PM

Remember, back at the time of the First Exam, Naruto said he'd still become Hokage even if he stayed a genin forever. Foreshadowing?

HellCat

01-30-2006, 09:43 PM

Remember, back at the time of the First Exam, Naruto said he'd still become Hokage even if he stayed a genin forever. Foreshadowing?
When I think of that, I think of an old episode of Taz-Mania where Francis X. Bushland (a tribal boy who constantly tried and failed to be recognized as a man by killing Taz) has a nightmare about suceeding his father as village leader, only for everyone to laugh at him when they learn he never achieved manhood as per tradition.
There would be something legendary about Naruto going from genin to Hokage, but living in the present being a genin doesn't really help Naruto for missions. Any of his friends could pull rank on him and it'll be them who are entrusted with important missions whilst Naruto can only be chosen by the leaders for them. Naruto also overshadows alot of his peers, so them being chunin and jounin and him left as a mere genin is ridiculous. Besides, Naruto only missed promotion because he's been away on special training. If he's good enough for that, it's wrong to penalise him with lack of promotion. Even Gaara became Kazekage.

Teek

01-31-2006, 12:40 PM

Conekiller

01-31-2006, 12:58 PM

But where would that leave poor Konohamaru?:anime:

HellCat

01-31-2006, 01:03 PM

The exam issue is an interesting problem. If there is some downtime after the current mission, maybe both Naruto and Sai would take it together? I've not see any mention of Sai's rank, and if he has been coddled in secret by Danzou, he may still be a Genin officially as well. They'd just have to find another teammate. But they may make an exception and let the two of them go in it together. I could see them breezing through the exam in seven chapters or so. 1 chapter for the first exam test, 2 chapters as they quickly grab a scroll from another team and then the third test maybe facing off against a few others for 3-4 chapters.

Kishimoto could do something similar to HunterXHunter, where one of the main characters who didn't get his Hunter card in the first test, totally destroyed all the competition when he took it the second time. Naruto and Sai could do something similar, get a scroll, then take out others to get their scrolls as well so they would have no competition for the third test. It would then just be them facing off against each other before the audience.

That could be a good way to handle it. Whilst Naruto in-story would need to go through the whole cycle again (unless, in this time of crisis, the exam has been streamlined), for us as the audience the first two parts have served their purpose. The first was a psychological test, so it wouldn't need to be covered again. The second part in the Forest of Death could at least be interesting for some bonding with Sai (Naruto remembering this is where the whole mess with Orochimaru started, Sai making some further digs against Sasuke but possibly getting a better idea about Team 7's history). If it came down to just Naruto and Sai in the final part, that'd be perfect. Wasn't the initial tournament last time just to thin numbers because too many had survived so far?

In general though, I'm all for the quicker route of Tsunade judging Naruto based on his current ability and from what Jiraiya would tell her and then giving him an appropriate rank (ideally chunin over jounin...he needs to move up to be on better standing but it shouldn't be made TOO easy for him)

KuwabaraTheMan

02-02-2006, 10:54 AM

Well, with 293, the Kyuubi has officially taken over Naruto's body. Yamato seems to be the only one doing anything, but he has to also defend Sakura, while sending his bunshin after Kyuubi. Kabuto looks completely fine now, and Sai just kind of sits around.

Pretty big development here with Naruto actually no longer in control.

Teek

02-02-2006, 11:49 AM

Not very much happened, but it will be interesting to see what this level of combination between Naruto and Kyuubi can do.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-02-2006, 11:51 AM

Yeah, Orochimaru seems pretty confident still, so I doubt he'll really be in serious trouble.

Baseball

02-02-2006, 05:49 PM

Not very much happened, but it will be interesting to see what this level of combination between Naruto and Kyuubi can do.
Yeah, if you don't count Naruto's skin ripping off and his blood evaporating and creating a covering to form a mini-demon in front of Orochimaru. Man, this is getting crazy. Can't wait to see how the anime does it. It should look cool with the special effects.

silverwings

02-02-2006, 09:30 PM

Besides Naruto going demon on Oro, is anyone else hoping for either a Sakura vs Kabuto show down or Sakura/Yamato vs Kabuto showdown?

Also, big LOL as Sai got knock off his high-horse there. Well. I found it funny. :D

KuwabaraTheMan

02-02-2006, 10:02 PM

I'm predicting a Sakura/Yamato vs. Kabuto fight. Should be entertaining to see them fall before Kabuto's awesome skills.

poncho

02-02-2006, 10:10 PM

Hehe... Naruto is the new Gaara.

Teek

02-09-2006, 11:37 AM

294 is out. Naruto and Orochimaru begin to exchange crazy attacks back and forth. At this point Orochimaru seems impossible to kill.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-09-2006, 11:51 AM

Naruto vs. Orochimaru is getting just plain crazy. Orochimaru is more insane then ever. Glad to see Kabuto smirking and presumably ready to deal with Yamato and Sakura, as well.

Orochimaru actually seems concerned about what Naruto is doing at the end of the chapter.

poncho

02-09-2006, 10:10 PM

So... is Orochimaru just physically composed entirely of snakes, or what? :D

KuwabaraTheMan

02-16-2006, 10:09 AM

295
Holy (expletive deleted), there is some major stuff going on here.
Orochimaru and Kyuubi fight it out, with some explosive results. Just some insane going ons here.

GWOtaku

02-16-2006, 12:54 PM

At this point I just want Naruto to get beat down and have this over with. This has reached insane proportions, its clear Orochimaru knows what to expect and isn't going to lose.

This is big stuff, but I'm not particularly happy with the direction Naruto (the character) is going. Still impulsive, still bad at controlling his temper, still not a good planner, spent three years in training and is more like a monster than before...enough. Lets see some growth already. The sooner the better.

Keiichi

02-16-2006, 02:34 PM

I agree with GWO. Save for a few plot elements here and there this Arc has been one big mess and I'll be glad when its over.

Railith

02-16-2006, 03:08 PM

4 tails is badass, but he's getting smacked around like nothing by Oro.

silverwings

02-16-2006, 04:44 PM

I don't know what to say about this chapter.

One the one hand it's clearly awesome fights abound, and something that I can't wait to be seen animated.

On the other hand, it's starting to drag just a bit. Oro is a lot smarter than Naruto. Unless that's the point (stragety > pure rage is a theme of the manga, after all).

I don't expect this to last much longer in any case. Either Naruto's body will give out or one of the two will launch a devestating attack.

Timmay

02-16-2006, 06:10 PM

Why in God's name didn't he do this stuff when he fought Sarutobi?

I wouldn't count Naruto out yet, I'm sure Kyuubi has more more up it's sleeve.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-16-2006, 06:13 PM

Why in God's name didn't he do this stuff when he fought Sarutobi?

Databook 2 officially says that Orochimaru didn't take that fight seriously and describes it as 'nothing more then a boring pasttime for him'.

Mog

02-16-2006, 06:17 PM

I agree with GWO. Save for a few plot elements here and there this Arc has been one big mess and I'll be glad when its over.
Ditto. So far this small arc has been pretty terrible. It's almost as if Naruto has taken a step back thanks to his training. He hasn't done a single thing worth noting besides going Kyuubi crazy, and it is obviously not doing any good. Kishi needs to end this within 2 chapters and rethink the whole thing.

It's a good think OP has been so damn good or else I would be mad.

HellCat

02-16-2006, 06:27 PM

Why does it feel like the current life of the series is "Characters meet, have an expected scuffle, arc ends with some minor closure, start over"

Conekiller

02-17-2006, 03:27 PM

Databook 2 officially says that Orochimaru didn't take that fight seriously and describes it as 'nothing more then a boring pasttime for him'.

Riiiight [/Dr.Evil]

KuwabaraTheMan

02-17-2006, 03:38 PM

Riiiight [/Dr.Evil]
Well if Kishimoto says it, I can't see why it wouldn't be.

And this fight just further proves that Orochimaru really wasn't going all at back then.

Teek

02-17-2006, 04:33 PM

Well if Kishimoto says it, I can't see why it wouldn't be.

And this fight just further proves that Orochimaru really wasn't going all at back then.

I agree. Discounting the filler from the anime, Orochimaru didn't honestly stretch himself or hardly do anything AT ALL in the Sarutobi fight. He summoned the First and Second rather quickly to f' with his former sensei. Once they were removed he was surprised by the Death God and then blew his chance to use anymore moves.

Conekiller

02-17-2006, 06:09 PM

Mog

02-17-2006, 06:39 PM

I guess. But I also fail to see why Orochimaru wouldn't put up a true fight against his hated sensei. He went thru all that trouble to seal them up to guarantee a fight to the death. If that's the case my opinion of Oro has dimished greatly, I just can't see him as this "I'm going to cause this huge ruckess, large over blown plans, and when my paln finally comes to fruition, I'm gonna putz around and leave things to chance"

Anyway, latest chapter *yawwwn* this'll happen in about 2 minutes in the anime.
He obviously wanted to humiliate him by killing him without even trying. Like in Soul Calibur, where I like to humiliate some people by constantly parrying and doing quick tap moves. At the end Sarutobi got him in move he didn't know about and couldn't escape from. Needless to say, he really messed up an easy chance to destroy Konoha.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-23-2006, 09:39 AM

And it seems like this arc has reached a conclusion. Sakura does stupid stuff, Yamato has to protect her, Kabuto lets them go and heals Sakura so that they might deal with an Akatsuki member in the future.

And we end with Sai givinig Orochimaru a message from Danzou.
Interesting.

poncho

02-23-2006, 02:51 PM

There were way too many closeups of Kabuto's face for there not to be something important going on with him here. I can't quite figure out what it is, though. :D He seems to have seen something he was looking for when Naruto attacked Sakura...

Interestingly, he seemed to be showing some genuine sympathy for Naruto (unless I'm misunderstanding his expression on one of those panels).

HellCat

03-01-2006, 03:37 PM

not really manga discussion, but since they'd probably be spoilers anywhere else, some nifty t-shirt finds I stumbled on:

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KuwabaraTheMan

03-02-2006, 10:46 AM

297 is out. Sai joins Orochimaru and Kabuto. A bit sudden, I only predicted that he would give a message. Kabuto tackling him from behind was nice as well.

We also get Naruto waking up, and Sakur a briefly returns to the manga after being gone over a year. Unfortunately she'll probably be replaced by that Tsunade clone again next week...:crying:

Overall, a good chapter.

HellCat

03-02-2006, 10:55 AM

If Sai has joined Orochimaru, could Root potentially be secret Orochimaru supporters for whatever reason? Tieing the two togethor like that would make it alot easier on the story.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-02-2006, 11:04 AM

It depends... Sai could just be a spy by Danzou being placed in Orochimaru's group, or it could be a legitimate alliance. In the end, they aspire for different things, but there is some overlap. Orochimaru wants to shake things up and cause war, Danzou is a war hawk...

They could benefit by working together, but in the end I think they go down seperate paths.

HellCat

03-02-2006, 11:12 AM

Maybe a plot to discredit Tsunade? Considering how much Orochimaru's last attack hurt the village, by working with him Root could somehow work out a way to make the village's defenses weaker on a date he would set to attack. This would be a double cross by Root in the hopes of letting him cause some damage and then beat him off, allowing them to say Tsunade's defensive tactics were poor leadership.

Teek

03-02-2006, 12:13 PM

I'm not sure what Sai's purpose is. Perhaps Sai does have some mission against Orochimaru, but is only with him for now. What's in the envelope? What could convince Orochimaru Danzou doesn't plan something bad? Perhaps Sai is a Jinchuuriki and the envelope states that fact? i.e. "I gift this Jinchuuriki to you as a sign of trust"

Of course I also think Kabuto and Sai are brothers, so this current situation seems like an easy way to explain all that.

GWOtaku

03-02-2006, 12:31 PM

I'm going to hope that Sai is a spy because that would make it a lot more likely that Sasuke will eventually kill off his lame imitation.

Timmay

03-02-2006, 04:39 PM

297 means death to NaruHina? And if the Oro and Sasu are gay theory didn't already have enough steam, they've thrown Sai in the bunch, complete with penis jokes.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-02-2006, 05:30 PM

297 means death to NaruHina?
How so? Because Sakura was concerned for Naruto's well being. Or are you talking about the mistranslation that had Yamato implyinig he thought Sakura had feelings for Naruto?

I still think Sakura will wind up with someone at Orochimaru's, either Sasuke or Sai...

Timmay

03-02-2006, 06:36 PM

How so? Because Sakura was concerned for Naruto's well being. Or are you talking about the mistranslation that had Yamato implyinig he thought Sakura had feelings for Naruto?

I still think Sakura will wind up with someone at Orochimaru's, either Sasuke or Sai...

Well, since I can't find what you're talking about, after cross checking 5 translations from the mangahelper board, and all of them having pretty much the same meaning, what is it you're talking about?

poncho

03-02-2006, 06:37 PM

How so? Because Sakura was concerned for Naruto's well being. Or are you talking about the mistranslation that had Yamato implyinig he thought Sakura had feelings for Naruto?

I wouldn't call it a mistranslation... I suppose that "naruto o omou kimochi no ookisa" doesn't strictly have to imply romantic feelings, but I can definitely see the connotation. Especially in the last panel on that page.

I mean, if "it's obvious just from looking at you" is supposed to just mean that Sakura deeply cares about Naruto, then why is she so surprised? That much has already been completely obvious for a long time.

Anyway, if I read the original Japanese first rather than the translation, that's still the conclusion I would immediately jump to. I have a feeling that Naruto is very very slowly heading down the traditional shounen manga "quasi-harem for the main character" path.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-02-2006, 07:06 PM

Well, since I can't find what you're talking about, after cross checking 5 translations from the mangahelper board, and all of them having pretty much the same meaning, what is it you're talking about?
There was one translation that seemed to have a more romantic feeling then the others did...

But whatever. I can't remember which one it was now, that's just what I read. The implication I got was not necessarily romantic.

I still see Naruto and Sakura as more of a deep friendship then a romance. The way they interact it feels more natural.

FlyByNite77

03-02-2006, 07:24 PM

Naruto is never going to have a harem its nearing 300 chapters and there's still only one girl who has romantic feelings for him and that's Hinata.

If Gundam Seed Destiny was done in manga and reached 300 chapters I think Athrun would have about 150 girls in his harem.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-02-2006, 07:30 PM

Jowy Blight

03-03-2006, 02:57 AM

Whew, I'm just happy that arc is over with. I seriously can't believe how long and boring it was. Four tailed Naruto looked like a Heartless from Kingdom Hearts for god's sake.

I really hope we don't see the Kyubi again for a long while (way to oversaturate Kishimoto).

RedNinja84

03-05-2006, 09:55 PM

I hope it doesn't mean an end to Hinata/Naruto, that's my favorite couple. I mean Sakura is cute and all but overall I find her to be too whiny.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-05-2006, 10:28 PM

I hope it doesn't mean an end to Hinata/Naruto, that's my favorite couple. I mean Sakura is cute and all but overall I find her to be too whiny.

I agree on Naruto/Hinata. I still think Kishimoto will take it in that direction, I see Naruto and Sakura as close friends, with Sakura leaning towards Sasuke still.

Timmay

03-05-2006, 10:32 PM

I agree on Naruto/Hinata. I still think Kishimoto will take it in that direction, I see Naruto and Sakura as close friends, with Sakura leaning towards Sasuke still.
I dunno, she hasn't really done anything in the series in a very long time..

KuwabaraTheMan

03-05-2006, 11:12 PM

I dunno, she hasn't really done anything in the series in a very long time..

Yeah, Sakura doesn't do that much, but that doesn't really indicate that she's lost feelings for Sasuke...

:p

KuwabaraTheMan

03-09-2006, 01:36 PM

298:

Well in 15 chpaters Yamato is already 100s of times more interesting then Kakashi was in over 250.

At the same time, I think him and Sakura lone pursuing Orochimaru, Kabuto, and Sai is idiotic, but provided they can keep from engaging them(which would be pretty hard), they might at least get some valuable information.

Kishimoto is definitely making the anti-Part 1/Gaiden here. Abandon your friends, accomplish the mission at any cost...

GWOtaku

03-09-2006, 03:18 PM

Well they can't just stop the mission because Naruto decided to be an idiot. They need intelligence on the Sound, they don't have it yet, Yamato doesn't know what's going on with Sai--the logical thing to do is to try to follow them.

RedNinja84

03-10-2006, 10:04 PM

A chapter full of dialogue was good. We know have some theories on what is going on. It did suprise me that Yamato is going to leave Naruto behind to track. The last panel also leaves me guessing whats going to happen next chapter.

Timmay

03-16-2006, 05:34 AM

It's Kyuubi awareness week.

Sakura lies to him, Yamato tells him the truth and makes a point concerning Naruto's use of Kyuubi. That he needs to rely on his own strength instead of Kyuubi.

^^ which sounds like the exact opposite of what Jiraiya tried to teach him..

KuwabaraTheMan

03-16-2006, 03:08 PM

Yamato is just plain awesome. And now we're finally going to see Naruto fight on his own merits, and not the Kyuubi's.

Hopefully we'll see 'that jutsu' soon.

RedNinja84

03-18-2006, 08:48 PM

Looks like Naruto is going to have to learn to do without Kyuubi's powers. Can't wait till the next chapter to see if Naruto and the gang catch up to Sai.

Timmay

03-23-2006, 08:00 AM

Sasuke
I don't know what to say.

Teek

03-23-2006, 09:52 AM

After all the wait it gets a "meh" from me. Maybe it's because he's in shadow, in either case he's gone down on my list of favorites since he joined Oro. Since Sai's book has a blank battle page, is this his next foe? Frankly I'd probably be rooting for Sai.

Bit Cloud

03-23-2006, 04:19 PM

Sasukes appearance didn't look very humanoid to me. He looked like he had fur, clawed hands and hooves for feet.

GWOtaku

03-23-2006, 04:24 PM

Is it me or does Sasuke seem rather entrenched as a villian? Kind of hard to save someone that doesn't want to be rescued....

Timmay

03-23-2006, 04:38 PM

Is it me or does Sasuke seem rather entrenched as a villian? Kind of hard to save someone that doesn't want to be rescued....

That's what I was thinking too.. but there's too much debate over what his decision to leave meant. Of course he left to get stronger to kill Itachi, but whether or not he's thinking "power at any cost, even if it means killing my friends if they get in the way"

KuwabaraTheMan

03-23-2006, 06:39 PM

Disappointingly, we don't see what he actually looks like. It also looks like he either doesn't have Mangekyou, or doesn't have it constantly activated.

EroSennin

03-23-2006, 08:37 PM

That was a great pic of Sasuke with the giant snake sitting behind him. Next week I hope we see him kick Sai's butt.

Youko Recca

03-23-2006, 10:22 PM

All I have to say is, those two better fight for some reason.

RedNinja84

03-23-2006, 11:39 PM

So we see the long awaited return of Sauske,and just like everyone else it like Sauske has embraced the "dark side." Looks like Naruto and the gang should get to the hideout next week and we will finally see Naruto and sasuke battle each other and go all out.

Teek

03-30-2006, 11:47 AM

Well 301 is out. Not much happens, Sai and Sasuke chat and Sasuke acts pissy. We also learn how Yamato was tracking Sai.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-30-2006, 12:26 PM

We still don't see Sasuke really, but he's intense. It seems that Sai delivered information on all the top AnBu from Konoha, that's dangerous info now.

Yamato's tracking ability is unique, and not what I expected at all, as well.

silverwings

03-30-2006, 03:59 PM

301 and we still get Sasuke in the shadows... BUT I saw a nose! :anime:

Yes, I'm a hopeless fangirl and I can't wait to see his redesign.

That and him and Sai going at it in a fight to the death.

Oh, and if Oro can sense when people stop moving, why hasn't he realised who's outside his door? :confused:

FlyByNite77

03-30-2006, 06:05 PM

We still don't see Sasuke really, but he's intense. It seems that Sai delivered information on all the top AnBu from Konoha, that's dangerous info now.

isn't top AnBu an oxymoron? ;)

KuwabaraTheMan

03-30-2006, 06:10 PM

isn't top AnBu an oxymoron? ;)
AnBu are pretty good, the only time we've seen them unimpressive is that Kabuto kills them easily. But he's Kabuto, even Tsunade mentioned that Kabuto's skills surpassed her in her prime.

Most ninjas seem to hold AnBu in high regard, and Yamato is one, and seems damn strong to me.

RedNinja84

03-30-2006, 08:47 PM

Another dialouge chapter, but I can't wiat for the next chapter. We will finally see Team 7 reunited.

GWOtaku

04-07-2006, 01:06 PM

302 is out. Team 7 manages to infiltrate Orochimaru's hideout thanks to Yamato (Naruto, who wanted to bust in with his Rasengan, is lamely impulsive as usual) and tracks down Sai, who confirms what we already knew--Danzou has ideas about teaming with Orochimaru to bring down Konoha. Unfortunately thanks to Kabuto's forgetfulness they're probably about to be discovered by Kabuto, meaning huge trouble is on the way.

Most likely Sai will try to save his neck when the unexpected happens, so a fight with Sai & Kabuto vs. Yamato/Naruto/Sakura seems inevitable. If any of team 7 escapes alive, after all, Sai's mission and Danzou's plans are ruined. I must say that should be a pretty good fight, especially with Naruto guaranteed to actually fight like a ninja this time.

This is probably a penultimate fight though, because I really don't see this ending without them encountering Sasuke somehow.

KuwabaraTheMan

04-07-2006, 01:13 PM

Timmay

04-08-2006, 12:06 AM

Looks like Yamato's group is ruined at this point. They're going to need to escape with their lives, but with Kabuto("I beat up Sannin as a warm up excercise") there, they'll need a lot of luck on their side.

Hopefully we'll get a good fight here.
Kabuto is said to be Kakashi's level. I don't buy half of the Kabuto hype... but that is probably because I got involved in a discussion with some Kabuto fanboys on NF who were insane, and completely ruined Kabuto for me.

So personally, I'm hoping Kabuto gets owned.. not without giving a good fight of course.

GWOtaku

04-14-2006, 10:36 AM

silverwings

04-14-2006, 12:47 PM

Unexpectadly 303 is another dialogue chapter consisting mainly of talking about Sai and Naruto again repeating his reasons for wanting to save Sasuke. For the moment team 7 has evaded detection (my fantasy fight, nooooo!), but seems poised to reinfiltrate now that Sai is tied up outside. However with Sai missing Kabuto must realize something is wrong, so how things will play out at this point is anybody's guess.

I'm sorry, but I had to laugh when I read the chapter. It seems Sai's brother isn't a blood brother, but rather a very close comrade. They were both orphans and grew up together in the village.

Kabuto was an orphan. Kabuto has white hair. The brother in his book as white hair. Score another point to "Kabuto is Sai's brother" theory.:D

KuwabaraTheMan

04-14-2006, 01:32 PM

303 is out. Looks like Yamato's group has managed to avoid certain death for the moment. Attacking Orochimaru and Sasuke head on is just about the second dumbest thing they could do at the moment, but somehow they have to survive.

Interesting to find out Sai's brother died from an illness, and it wasn't that Sai killed him.

Kabuto is said to be Kakashi's level. I don't buy half of the Kabuto hype... but that is probably because I got involved in a discussion with some Kabuto fanboys on NF who were insane, and completely ruined Kabuto for me.

I was probably one of those Kabuto fanboys.:sweat:

Plus, Kakashi admitted he wouldn't stand a chance against Kabuto, and Tsunade said Kabuto was better then her...

Timmay

04-14-2006, 03:05 PM

I was probably one of those Kabuto fanboys.:sweat:

Plus, Kakashi admitted he wouldn't stand a chance against Kabuto, and Tsunade said Kabuto was better then her...

Unless you're Hinata's Fan, Itadakimasu08, or Yakushi~Kabuto you're in the clear.

Kakashi said "For someone like this to be under the command of Orochimaru, My current state is not enough."
and then there's..
Tsunade's "This boy is not an ordinary medical ninja, his senses and strength may exceed my own in my prime."
and Jiraiyas "Also the guy in the glasses has the same power as Kakashi"

All of them can be interpreted differently and in some ways contradict each other.

KuwabaraTheMan

04-14-2006, 03:21 PM

Unless you're Hinata's Fan, Itadakimasu08, or Yakushi~Kabuto you're in the clear.

I'm Hinata's Fan.

Hooray for Infamy!:D

Also, it was confirmed that Tsunade's statement didn't contain a 'may', she was definitively saying Kabuto surpassed her in her prime.

Timmay

04-14-2006, 06:08 PM

I'm Hinata's Fan.

Hooray for Infamy!:D

Also, it was confirmed that Tsunade's statement didn't contain a 'may', she was definitively saying Kabuto surpassed her in her prime. That's.. hilarious. I've even gotten neg rep from you.

My main issue is just with the old blood, and "Kabuto is GOD!" stuff.

KuwabaraTheMan

04-14-2006, 06:12 PM

That's.. hilarious. I've even gotten neg rep from you.

My main issue is just with the old blood, and "Kabuto is GOD!" stuff.

I appologize for nothing.:D

I do go a little overboard sometimes, though. But given that I got constant neg rep and flames for a while, I was getting kind of pissed off.

But Kabuto is God, the manga has proved it.:p

Teek

04-20-2006, 10:55 AM

304 is out.

Aww, Sai's not such a bad guys after all. I guess Naruto's ability to change people has been made more tiring after it was used ad infinitum in the fillers. Anyway, Sai gives a real smile and Orochimaru arrives to lay the smack down.

Sai jokes about his brother not having a penis, maybe in some weird way he's right and his "brother" was a girl?

silverwings

04-20-2006, 11:56 AM

Sai jokes about his brother not having a penis, maybe in some weird way he's right and his "brother" was a girl?

You know, that's what I was thinking. Perhaps brother doesn't refer to a male figure, but a comrade in arms type thing. :confused:

The translation I read, though, made it seem that Yamato was going to say who killed Sai's brother, but Sai stopped him and the illness thing looked kinda forced to me. Maybe he doesn't want the killer revealed? :confused:

And Kuwabara/Hinata's Fan -> Yes, Kabuto is god. :D

KuwabaraTheMan

04-20-2006, 12:23 PM

And Kuwabara/Hinata's Fan -> Yes, Kabuto is god. :D

Indeed. He pretty much owned Naruto this chapter, although Sai took 'him' from behind. He still looks like he's in control of the situation.

And I expected Sai to join Naruto, but I expected it a little later in a more dangerous situation.

Although Orochimaru showing up means that Sai and Naruto are in big trouble.

Teek

04-20-2006, 12:25 PM

You know, that's what I was thinking. Perhaps brother doesn't refer to a male figure, but a comrade in arms type thing. :confused:

It could easily tie in to Kishimoto's comments a few months back wherein he said he just got finished designing a new *female* character.

KuwabaraTheMan

04-20-2006, 12:28 PM

It could easily tie in to Kishimoto's comments a few months back wherein he said he just got finished designing a new *female* character.

Wasn't he saying that the kunoichi was an Akatsuki Member?

RedNinja84

04-20-2006, 12:53 PM

Just got done reading chapter 304 raw version. Kabuto gets captured and Sai revels more abiut past and it builds up to a confrantion with OC. I can't wait for it to be translated.

silverwings

04-20-2006, 01:45 PM

Wasn't he saying that the kunoichi was an Akatsuki Member?

Oh I hope so. We need more female villains. Well, more female ninjas in general. Or the ones we have not to suck so much... (pointing to TenTen and Hinata here..)

But when did he say that he was designing a new female?

Teek

04-20-2006, 02:10 PM

He made two statements at the same time from what I recall, I believe in regards to a new female character and more Akatsuki. It wasn't exactly clear if he was refering to them being the same thing.

Timmay

05-02-2006, 09:40 PM

Aaaannnnd.. we're back!

Sai enjoys misleading people. So his real mission wasn't to help out Orochimaru, it was to kill Sasuke.

silverwings

05-02-2006, 11:51 PM

Aaaannnnd.. we're back!

Sai enjoys misleading people. So his real mission wasn't to help out Orochimaru, it was to kill Sasuke.

Yeah. This had to be one of the best nonfight chapters in awhile. I really liked it a lot.

That and we are almost guarrenteed to see Sasuke's face next week. *crosses fingers anyways*

KuwabaraTheMan

05-03-2006, 12:12 AM

Of course, now Sai wants to rescue Sasuke for Naruto's sake.

I don't see Sai surviving this arc now. And we may finally see Sasuke post-timeskip officially.

Timmay

05-03-2006, 12:16 AM

Of course, now Sai wants to rescue Sasuke for Naruto's sake.

I don't see Sai surviving this arc now. And we may finally see Sasuke post-timeskip officially. Well, if Sasuke kills Sai, I don't see him coming back to Konoha anytime soon. Not that that's a bad thing, it'd kill the rut so many fans are complaining about. But I really don't see that happening.

KuwabaraTheMan

05-03-2006, 12:21 AM

Well, if Sasuke kills Sai, I don't see him coming back to Konoha anytime soon. Not that that's a bad thing, it'd kill the rut so many fans are complaining about. But I really don't see that happening.

It doesn't have to be Sasuke.

Orochimaru or Kabuto could kill him as well.

I just get this feeling that Sai is doomed.

HellCat

05-03-2006, 03:41 AM

Could Sasuke return to Konoha if he wanted to? I was wondering if his age would grant him some favour, but as we've seen there are people younger than him capable of worse so I imagine he falls under normal missing-nin laws?

KuwabaraTheMan

05-03-2006, 03:54 AM

Tsunade might be willing to go lenient because of Naruto and Sakura, but Danzou and the Council would probably force her hand on that one.

They definitely view Sasuke as just another missing-nin, and would want him dead(hence why Sai was sent to assassinate him).

Jowy Blight

05-03-2006, 07:43 AM

I just get this feeling that Sai is doomed.
We can only hope and pray it's true.

Conekiller

05-03-2006, 10:36 AM

They definitely view Sasuke as just another missing-nin, and would want him dead(hence why Sai was sent to assassinate him).

Glad to hear it. I've been predicting that since the end of Naruto pt 1

Jowy Blight

05-11-2006, 07:49 AM

The new Sasuke:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/505/sasuke24jz.jpg

Looks like Orochimaru's terrible fashion sense has rubbed off on Sasuke.

HellCat

05-11-2006, 07:51 AM

The new Sasuke:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/505/sasuke24jz.jpg

Looks like Orochimaru's terrible fashion sense has rubbed off on Sasuke.

Wow...if that's official art, it looks pretty bland.

Furu

05-11-2006, 10:38 AM

I was expecting....more evil, I guess?

Instead he sort of looks like Orochimaru's been using him as a dress-up doll, which is a terrifying thought.

silverwings

05-11-2006, 11:11 AM

I was expecting....more evil, I guess?

Instead he sort of looks like Orochimaru's been using him as a dress-up doll, which is a terrifying thought.

Hmm, get rid of the robe/black roby thingy and then he's just got the loose white shirt and black pants and a SWORD! :D <3 swords. Though in that case, he'd look just like Neiji. :p

I love how it looks like he just got out of bed, too.

TnAdct1

05-11-2006, 12:03 PM

The new Sasuke:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/505/sasuke24jz.jpg

Looks like Orochimaru's terrible fashion sense has rubbed off on Sasuke. Okay, I wonder if any Naruto fans will attempt to get a cosplay of this finished in time for either AX or Otakon.

RedNinja84

05-11-2006, 05:13 PM

Sauske's back! I hope we get to him and Naruto fight again.

KuwabaraTheMan

05-11-2006, 09:45 PM

Sauske's back! I hope we get to him and Naruto fight again.

Not in the shape Naruto's in now. That would be even more one-sided then those one sided fights on Robot Chicken.

Sasuke's knew look is interesting, but not super-awesome(then again, I'm not exactly Sasuke's biggest fan:sweat: ).

This is the moment a lot of people have been waiting for, the three reunited.

Youko Recca

05-11-2006, 11:34 PM

LOL, Sasuke looks like a punk. Was certainly expecting something more menacing than looking like another one of Orochimaru's sheep.

Captain Highwind

05-12-2006, 01:27 AM

And Kishimoto hams it up one final time by having Naruto trip before he sees Sasuke.

I can imagine how much fun the anime's going to have dragging this arc out.

FlyByNite77

05-12-2006, 04:26 PM

Sasuke's got a kinda pirate-look going with the open baggy shirt.

Marvin Tikvah

05-13-2006, 06:36 PM

I love how it looks like he just got out of bed, too.

Funny thing is he did just get out of bed! I kinda like his new look though his head looks a little small. I wish Naruto didn't trip, I dont see why he had to do that, I was thinking this scene would be more dramatic that makes it less serious but it is his choice I should mull that over a bit...

Teek

05-18-2006, 12:43 PM

Latest chapter is out. Sasuke continues to be calm and collected. I don't think I buy his devotion to Orochimaru. I'd like to see him finally turn against him and bail. Either go on his own or return to Konoha.

GWOtaku

05-18-2006, 12:54 PM

Looks like Sasuke vs. Naruto is indeed going to happen. I do hope Yamato and Sakura don't content themselves with playing spectator the whole time, though.

Sasuke's line about not killing Naruto on a whim, of course, is crap. Not wanting to follow through on his brother's instructions with that whole "I will...not...be your puppet!" line isn't exactly motivated by mercy or friendship, but it had meaning. He's basically saying he didn't do it just to spite Itachi or something. Who is he kidding?

Of course, things are different now and Sasuke now actually really does suck that much....

Timmay

05-18-2006, 04:28 PM

Looks like Kishimoto still has it.

Conan-san

05-18-2006, 04:52 PM

The new Sasuke:
Looks like Orochimaru's terrible fashion sense has rubbed off on Sasuke. He looks like he wondered off the set of hte latest Samurai Sprits game.

KuwabaraTheMan

05-18-2006, 11:04 PM

Looks like Sasuke vs. Naruto is indeed going to happen. I do hope Yamato and Sakura don't content themselves with playing spectator the whole time, though.

Doubt it. Kishimoto has repeatedly emphasized Naruto not being in fighting condition. More likely the other three will have to do the bulk of the work.

Sasuke is back in action, and seems pretty skilled. He's also very collected. These next chapters should be awesome.

Timmay

05-25-2006, 10:53 AM

Let me be the first to say holy ****.

That's Sasuke's power alright.

KuwabaraTheMan

05-25-2006, 07:07 PM

Sasuke did come out pretty strong this time around, but Yamato will recover and get back in the fight.

Baseball

05-25-2006, 08:45 PM

Holy crap. Sasuke's completely awesome again. Plus, he has the Kusanagi blade. If things go according to legend...

Jowy Blight

05-26-2006, 05:45 AM

Furu

05-26-2006, 07:23 AM

I like how within a chapter of Sasuke's reappearance he unveils a new jutsu. Yet 64 chapters into Part 2, Naruto still hasn't shown us anything new (Kyuubi power doesn't count). Just the same Shadow Clone army stuff plus Rasengan thing we've seen millions of times already that rarely ever works against worthwhile enemies.

Oh, and is there anything the Sharingan can't do at this point?

I know I'm conplaining a lot, but it's really starting to get annoying.
One-handed Rasengan and Odama Rasengan don't count as anything new?

And what do you mean "rarely ever works on worthwhile enemies"? He beat Kabuto and the fake Itachi with it. It's not a weak technique.

And WHY does Kyuubi Power not count? It's something we haven't seen before to the extent that he used it against Orochimaru.

I just don't see your points.

GWOtaku

05-26-2006, 10:32 AM

Kyuubi doesn't count because Yamato sealed it and basically told Naruto it wasn't his real strength and he should stop relying on it. Power isn't a benefit if you aren't even in control of yourself.

KuwabaraTheMan

05-26-2006, 12:08 PM

He beat Kabuto

When?:shrug:

GWOtaku

05-26-2006, 01:39 PM

Jowy Blight

05-26-2006, 05:05 PM

One-handed Rasengan and Odama Rasengan don't count as anything new?
I don't ever remember him using a one handed Rasengan and the Odama Rasengan looked like just a slight upgrade. It still looks exactly like the normal one but with a fancy name.

And what do you mean "rarely ever works on worthwhile enemies"? He beat Kabuto and the fake Itachi with it. It's not a weak technique.
I'll give you the fake Itachi. However, I wouldn't say Naruto beat Kabuto with the Rasengan since he had the last laugh and got up a left a little while later anyway. For a supposed powerful jutsu, it doesn't seem to ever put anyone down for long (when it hits).

And WHY does Kyuubi Power not count? It's something we haven't seen before to the extent that he used it against Orochimaru.
It doesn't count because it seems like the Kyuubi itself is in control of Naruto when he uses it. Sure, we haven't seen it at four-tails level before, but that was just a showing of the Kyuubi's power, not Naruto's. I want to see what Naruto has learned these past 3 years, not the Kyuubi.

I just don't see your points.
My point is that it seems like Naruto was half-assing his training these last 3 years. I guess he wasn't that serious about Sasuke after all.

KuwabaraTheMan

05-26-2006, 05:14 PM

Remember the Tsunade arc? Naruto managed to hit him dead on with a Rasengan, damaging him so much that he didn't even have enough Chakra to heal himself. Yes, it was close, but I'd say that counts as a loss.

One could argue that Naruto was hurt so badly that it balances out. Its a fair point, but even then Kabuto was clearly the superior ninja, so drawing even with a much inferior opponent isn't really worthy of credit.

Kabuto killed Naruto in that fight, if you recall. Naruto's only even alive because Tsunade got there.

Kabuto was injured, but he still summoned Manda and escaped with Orochimaru, while Naruto was lying on the ground nearly dead.

I'd say that counts as a win in Kabuto's book. Plus, remember he had faced a Legendary Sannin and an Elite Jounin prior to fighting Naruto.

Marvin Tikvah

05-27-2006, 02:41 AM

I can't say I like Kabuto, he has to be my least favorite character. Although at this point I'd like to see him fight simply because I feel like these chapters have given me a Sasuke overdose.

I don't know about this, Sasuke is pretty powerful without touching his curse levels I'd hate to think how strong he is at level two. I hope Naruto pulls out some new tricks, he pretty cool when he does his clever little tactics. A new jutsu here, an outsmarting plan there, he keeps some of his dignity before Sasuke owns him...

Oh well as long as I get to see Naruto do some awesome moves and fight a good fight I'm all good. Oh and I'd like to see Sakura punch someone in the face, anyone really preferably Sasuke just because it'd get her in the fight and that would rock.

Rob_TF

06-01-2006, 08:29 AM

Okay, 309 brings this arc to a close. Naruto did not get Sasuke back. Worse still, Kyuubi has revealed that the Uchiha clan, especially this "Uchiha Madara," have a terrible chakra, far more menacing than his own. The connections of the Uchiha clan to the Kyuubi have become apparent.

Also, the teaser word for the next chapter is "Title," whatever that's supposed to mean.

Timmay

06-01-2006, 10:09 AM

I am completely fed up with this manga.

Seriously.. a small skirmish, a scene inside Kyuubi that now will have everyone searching for answers, and the arc ends. Half of the revelations piss me off.. Sasuke willing to give his body to Orochimaru in order to kill Itachi, Sharingan being able to supress Kyuubi, and Uchiha being more evil than Kyuubi.

Youko Recca

06-01-2006, 10:39 AM

Why does it seem like Sasuke is getting his nuts completely HUGGED during this?

Keiichi

06-01-2006, 11:00 AM

I am completely fed up with this manga.

I'm really starting to lose faith in kishi. I quit reading Naruto after that whole kyubi rampage. And from what I'm reading here I'm glad I did.

@Recca: Because he's Kishi's fav character...

HellCat

06-01-2006, 11:35 AM

If the manga is bad, imagine how viewers will react when they get this after waiting through the filler...

Rolling Cloud

06-01-2006, 03:47 PM

I don't know about this, Sasuke is pretty powerful without touching his curse levels I'd hate to think how strong he is at level two. I hope Naruto pulls out some new tricks, he pretty cool when he does his clever little tactics. A new jutsu here, an outsmarting plan there, he keeps some of his dignity before Sasuke owns him...

Sasuke did hit level two during his fight with Naruto, so a level two now (if that's what you're getting at) would probably be pretty powerful.

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I'm not giving up on the manga until we get a final all-out showdown with Orochimaru. :sweat: :D

Marvin Tikvah

06-01-2006, 11:35 PM

Thats what I meant Level Two now. I got pretty mad this chapter yelled out to me "Sasuke is super powerful! Not even the Kyuubi can beat him!" It might not be what it was getting at but thats what first popped into my mind and it made me mad.

I need something to pick me up from these last few weeks of Sasuke is powerful and Naruto has done nothing. I need coolness.

KuwabaraTheMan

06-01-2006, 11:50 PM

@Recca: Because he's Kishi's fav character...

Kishi said in an interview recently that Naruto was his favorite.

And I'm enjoying the current happenings in the manga. Hopefully the next arc will give some focus on different characters, though.

GWOtaku

06-02-2006, 12:22 AM

The one very good thing that came out of this arc is the Kyuubi's apparent demise as a plot device. Yamato said that Naruto's true strength doesn't come from relying on its Chakra, and with the events that have taken place Naruto definitely won't be using it to win any tough battles in a pinch. He's seen first hand how much Sasuke has improved relative to him and his lack of change since their last meeting. Naruto finally has no other options except to improve as a ninja relying only on himself, and quite frankly its about time.

The plot of Naruto since the time skip, however, has been wanting. However, the whole plot with Danzou and Roots has the potential to develop into a great arc. I'm hoping Team 7 just sucks it up and goes home so we can start getting into that. If any arc is going to bring shafted/rarely seen/unseen characters back into the spotlight, this is it. Its do or die time for Naruto, either this is where things start to get better or the series is going to descend into a rut that'll be very difficult to get out of. Time will tell.

Jowy Blight

06-02-2006, 07:34 AM

So Sasuke surpresses an already surpressed Kyuubi and that's the end of the arc. It also seems that Sasuke is not only stronger then Naruto (who isn't?) but is also more evil the the Kyuubi. Well, great.

Who wants to guess how many dry, pointless, empty chapters we'll have to sit though until the next actual plot point starts moving (at a snail's pace)?

Seriously, what has happened to this manga?

Timmay

06-02-2006, 03:18 PM

The plot of Naruto since the time skip, however, has been wanting. However, the whole plot with Danzou and Roots has the potential to develop into a great arc. I'm hoping Team 7 just sucks it up and goes home so we can start getting into that. If any arc is going to bring shafted/rarely seen/unseen characters back into the spotlight, this is it. Its do or die time for Naruto, either this is where things start to get better or the series is going to descend into a rut that'll be very difficult to get out of. Time will tell.

I'd like to point out that Sai might have been lying about the whole thing. Since his real mission was to kill Sasuke, and not to act as a mediator between Orochimaru and Danzou.

But we'll see.

RedNinja84

06-02-2006, 03:42 PM

Wow the lst couple of chapters didn't impress me. I guess I thought they would have this all out battle but I guess not. So they find Sasuke, talk t him, he shows off his new power and leaves, what a gip. Im starting to get bored with it.

JDNobodi

06-02-2006, 11:44 PM

I just feel like I’ve just finished reading the end to an InuYasha saga. There is a lot of build up in the action, then it end with a dud.

The worst thing about the situation, I don’t think the author is any closer to concluding his story. We may be in for a lot more of these unfulfilling arcs.

But, I still enjoy reading Naruto and InuYasha. And, I’m not going to let these lagging arcs stop me from read the mangas.

Rocketboy

06-08-2006, 11:18 PM

Well, looking at what I read, it looks like Sai is going to be staying on Team 7 until they get Sasuke back.

Timmay

06-09-2006, 03:32 PM

Not much happened.

Naruto cried, Sai joins up with Team 7, Danzou isn't that bad of a guy after all.

Kaiser0120

06-09-2006, 09:53 PM

I think the end of this latest one goes a long way to say Kishimoto still cares about the comic...

KuwabaraTheMan

06-09-2006, 10:36 PM

Alright. Kakashi, the most boring, dull, lifeless character in any manga, ever, has been written out.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.:evil:

Nice to see Sai and Yamato sticking around, they're both interesting characters.

Conekiller

06-10-2006, 12:53 AM

wow....uh....no?

Rob_TF

06-10-2006, 01:56 AM

Alright. Kakashi, the most boring, dull, lifeless character in any manga, ever, has been written out.

No, he isn't and no, he hasn't.

If he were written out, it'd cause a lot of uproar in the fan community due to his popularity in both the US and Japan, especially considering that he is the 2nd most popular Naruto character in Japan (Sasuke being 1st and Deidara being 3rd).

KuwabaraTheMan

06-10-2006, 03:00 AM

I know that.

But at least he'll be taking a backseat for a while. Its a good thing to have the more interesting and dynamic Yamato around.

Keiichi

06-10-2006, 09:23 AM

Alright. Yamato, the most boring, dull, lifeless character in any manga, ever, has been written out.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Sorry but you seem to have your characters mixed up again. I corrected it for you.

Nice to see Sai and Yamato sticking around, they're both interesting characters.

So the smiling sasuke clone and boring Yamato are sticking around. Way to go Kishi. Yamato is only interesting in the sense he's a plot character (being one of oro's experements) but other than that he's boring as a supporting character.

GWOtaku

06-10-2006, 07:25 PM

Yamato just hasn't had a chance to show his stuff yet. Kishi needs to give him a kickass fight in this next arc.

Timmay

06-15-2006, 04:54 AM

Dialogue chapter, it appears that Kakashi is finally going to train Naruto, to the point that Naruto will have surpassed him..

Someone needs to explain to me what happened during the 2.5 years with Jiraiya..

And Sasuke is on roids.

Rob_TF

06-15-2006, 05:46 AM

Someone needs to explain to me what happened during the 2.5 years with Jiraiya..

Jiraiya had been training him to use more of the kyubi's chakra, which as we see now has turned out to be a disaster. I'd assume that Naruto will be getting real jutsu training now, not some cheap use of biju chakra as a tool.

Timmay

06-15-2006, 05:52 AM

Jiraiya had been training him to use more of the kyubi's chakra, which as we see now has turned out to be a disaster. I'd assume that Naruto will be getting real jutsu training now, not some cheap use of biju chakra as a tool.
I don't know if we've actually got a concrete answer on that or if it's just an assumption based on the first time Jiraiya taught him to use Kyuubi.

KuwabaraTheMan

06-15-2006, 07:19 PM

Damn, Kakashi shows up.:crying: At least now ********s can't say he's stronger then Kakashi anymore.:shrug:

The stuff with Sai and Sakura was pretty good, though.

GWOtaku

06-15-2006, 11:17 PM

Training with Kakashi! Now we're getting somewhere.

KuwabaraTheMan

06-22-2006, 03:59 AM

::eek: :eek: :eek:

Bet all the people who were jumping off the bandwagon the last 3 weeks feel pretty silly now.:anime:

New female jinchuuriki, from Cloud.(And she looks older then Naruto and co).

NEW AKATSUKI PAIR, from Rain and Waterfall. The Spikey Haired guy, and the Giant. Just leaves the leader and the guy who was upset about not finding his bijuu left to be shown.

Huge stuff here.

And it appears Naruto's training will involve something similar to Dragonball's Room of Spirit and Time.

Plus, the return of Team Asuma, including Asuma's first post-timeskip appearance(Kurenai probably won't be MIA for much longer).

And great interaction between the two teams, particularly the Sai calling Ino beatiful and Sakura getting pissed stuff(I sense a triangle forming).

Sai is here to stay, and it is great.

Timmay

06-22-2006, 07:57 AM

it's time for a sig change kuwabara.*pulls other leg back onto bandwagon* I was only halfway off so I'm not that bad :evil:

An influx of characters having personality was badly needed. And here we are.

OH yeah, Sai feared the wrath so he called her the opposite of what he thought of her.

TnAdct1

06-22-2006, 12:43 PM

And it appears Naruto's training will involve something similar to Dragonball's Room of Spirit and Time. And knowing from my experience in DBZ and Negima, you can probably expect that this "room" will be used for more than just having our hero train in it.

Keiichi

06-22-2006, 02:52 PM

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Bet all the people who were jumping off the bandwagon the last 3 weeks feel pretty silly now.

Not really. One decent (yes I said decent) chapter dose'nt make up for an entire crappy arc.

Jowy Blight

06-22-2006, 04:52 PM

Not really. One decent (yes I said decent) chapter dose'nt make up for an entire crappy arc.
While true, at least it doesn't look like Sasuke will appear in this arc. It's really hard to care about Naruto trying to redeem someone you hate.

This chapter was pretty good and I look forward to watching Naruto become stronger (finally).

Icer

06-22-2006, 05:04 PM

Bet all the people who were jumping off the bandwagon the last 3 weeks feel pretty silly now.

Well to be honest, we've seen the "two new Akatsuki members confront a Jinchuuriki" before. When they did it to Naruto and to Gaara.

Hopefully this encounter wont play out as badly as the Gaara one.

KuwabaraTheMan

06-22-2006, 05:47 PM

Well to be honest, we've seen the "two new Akatsuki members confront a Jinchuuriki" before. When they did it to Naruto and to Gaara.

Hopefully this encounter wont play out as badly as the Gaara one.

'Badly'?

I thought the Sasori Arc was the best arc of the series. If this arc is as good as that, I'd be thrilled.

Conekiller

06-22-2006, 06:14 PM

Bandwagon? I stopped reading when it took a whole chapter for KyuubiNaruto to charge and fire an energy ball.

Sai is still a bung-hole without even trying. How are we supposed to sympathise with him? "awww lookit the little pretty boy trying to grasp basic human interactions"

But damn, I forgot how charismatic Asuma was! Sakura had some really good expressions in this chapter as well. Also, I dig the non-bish look of the new Akatsuki members, but didn't Tayuya already do the "foul mouth" bit once before?

FlyByNite77

06-22-2006, 11:12 PM

I think every Shonen series needs a special time & space room. DBZ, Bleach, Negima and MAR all used them. Guess Naruto will jump onboard.

djthomp

06-23-2006, 12:30 AM

Hmn, I'm thinking the "room" will be a Sharingan jitsu similar to the "hours of torture in one second" technique that Itachi used on Kakashi.

Mog

06-29-2006, 10:00 PM

Bah, Kishimoto pisses me off.

New demon user gets introduced, shows cool power, gets killed in a fight we never even see. BS.

Keiichi

06-29-2006, 10:44 PM

I don't think shes dead since they have yet to extract the demon from her. But it seems stupid for them to carry her and go to leaf to go after naruto. Also kishi is saving up to show what these guys are capabile of til we get to the LONG fights that are about to come up. If this is going to be a redux of the chase gaara arc then I'm done with naruto.

Timmay

06-29-2006, 10:56 PM

Bah, Kishimoto pisses me off.

New demon user gets introduced, shows cool power, gets killed in a fight we never even see. BS.She's probably not dead yet, I don't think they've done the ritual yet and they need her alive for that.

KuwabaraTheMan

06-29-2006, 11:41 PM

The fact the fight wasn't shown clearly means we'll see her fight at some point, otherwise, there would be no point in hiding the fight.

I'm finding the new Akatsuki Pair to be rather interesting.

JDNobodi

06-30-2006, 07:02 AM

I was wondering what kind of beast the Jinchuuriki had. Two tail cat for those who want to know. Anyway, I wanted to know how she was defeated and by which Akatsuki.

Are you guys going to start a new thead next week since "The road to Sasuke" is pretty much over?

Mog

06-30-2006, 11:11 AM

Yeah, after reading a better translation it's safe to say she's not dead. Thought they did a mobile extraction or something. I was a bit pissed.

As for next week, I do think it is time to make a new thread. But what should this new arc be called?

HellCat

06-30-2006, 11:16 AM

Mog

06-30-2006, 07:17 PM

Kuwabara's Denial? *ducks*
Laff.

Seriously, I can't think of a thing. Wonder what actual Naruto forums are calling it?

KuwabaraTheMan

06-30-2006, 09:14 PM

Hardy har har.

But its almost impossible to name an arc two chapters in. Who knows what direction it'll be taken in, really.

Funkmasta Zeph

06-30-2006, 09:37 PM

Shadow Hood and Cloned Emperor Palpatine/Malfoy's grand rodeo of dullery.

But seriously I still maintain that Naruto can regain EVERY ounce of its honor by making Sasuke's "that jutsu" be ...him summoning a banana, and punching Naruto in the face while Naruto try to figure out what the hell just happend.

Malex

07-01-2006, 02:09 AM

I have a question. What happened to Naruto's "that jutsu" that Jiraiya was talking about? Why would Naruto need to train to make a new jutsu more powerful than ransengan when he has that? I just feel that the past 2.5 years of training seems to have been wasted if Jiraiya only taught Naruto how to summon more kyubi chakra while Sasuke learned how to generate a chidori field, supress the kyubi, and have another ace in his sleeve.

Oh well, at least we get another Akatsuki pair. I'm thinking that this might be the best pair since Itachi and Kisame. Hidan and his devout religiousness on violence seems interesting while Kakuzu seems to be all business. Now that they gave a name to the female jinchuuriki, you know that there might be something involving her that could further the story since she was able to unleash her bijuu's power so easily.

KuwabaraTheMan

07-01-2006, 02:24 AM

Given how the scene played out when Jiraiya told him not to use it("Naruto, I know you already know this..." "I know"), I'm guessing "that jutsu" is either incomplete, or a suicide jutsu saved for a worst case scenario.

Hence why Naruto is forbidden from using it.

At least, that's my thought on the matter.

Timmay

07-01-2006, 02:45 AM

I think Naruto might complete "that jutsu" within Kakashi's training. Some people think "that jutsu" was KN4.

KuwabaraTheMan

07-01-2006, 03:54 AM

Which is of course impossible since Naruto didn't know about its existence until Yamato told him.

Plus, when we see it used, we'll no doubt get a flashback to that scene, and a scene of Naruto going "Sorry, Ero-Sennin", before he uses it.

Timmay

07-06-2006, 07:49 AM

Urgh, good god, without spoiling anything, the last main actiony part of this epiosde pritty much sums up what Studio Pedrot have been doing these last few months to us.Wrong thread, but I've heard what you're talking about, and yes, I agree.

KuwabaraTheMan

07-07-2006, 03:05 AM

314 is out.

Asuma is confirmed to be Sarutobi's son. It was speculated for a while, nice to see it is confirmed.

We also see Zetsu take away Yugito, and Hidan and Kakuzu come to Fire Country and beat up some monks.

Hopefully a translation will come out soon and explain stuff, as its a dialouge heavy chapter.

But I'm guessing we'll see Team Asuma vs. Akatsuki this arc, while Naruto is busy training.

And I wonder who these '12 Gentlemen' mentioned are. Asuma seems to be one of the members. Bet its connected to what he planned on talking to Kakashi about.

The plot thickens...

Timmay

07-07-2006, 03:43 AM

Naruto's new technique will supposedly combine the ideas behind the Chidori (elemental) and Rasengan (chakra control).

KuwabaraTheMan

07-07-2006, 04:09 AM

As long as its not another chakra ball in your hand thing.

I'd like to see Naruto have something that's at least mid-range, rather then just being a melee fighter.

silverwings

07-07-2006, 07:13 AM

As long as its not another chakra ball in your hand thing.

I'd like to see Naruto have something that's at least mid-range, rather then just being a melee fighter.

But Naruto IS a melee fighter. It only makes sense to base his moves around what he's good at.

KuwabaraTheMan

07-07-2006, 01:46 PM

Yeah, but I think he needs at least one thing he can use from a greater range.

animehacker

07-07-2006, 07:01 PM

i know its kinda off topic
but you guys seem to know what your talking about..
when itachi killed the uchiha clan and told sasuke that
if he can activate the mangekyou sharingan then including
them there is another..

did they ever say who the other person to do it was?

GWOtaku

07-07-2006, 08:01 PM

We don't know the identity of the third person yet. My theory is that this person is an Akatsuki member, possibly the leader, but its all speculation right now.

KuwabaraTheMan

07-07-2006, 08:07 PM

We don't know the identity of the third person yet. My theory is that this person is an Akatsuki member, possibly the leader, but its all speculation right now.

Can't be the Leader, his eyes are the same as Kurenai's.

It could be the one unknown Akatsuki member, but that'd be weird(he was the same one who said "Itachi, your brother..." at the end of Part 1).

So its probably someone unconnected to Akatsuki.

GWOtaku

07-07-2006, 08:16 PM

So basically, we have a wild card out there. Cool.

animehacker

07-07-2006, 09:19 PM

ok now that thats cleared up..

what about the guy with like the venus fly trap covering his face?

KuwabaraTheMan

07-07-2006, 09:34 PM

That's Zetsu.

All we really no about him is that he has a split personality, he's a cannibal, and he has some ability similar to the Byakugan.

Tash

07-07-2006, 11:11 PM

Well, there's also Tobi, who is possible if he really does turn out to be Obito.

Timmay

07-07-2006, 11:15 PM

Well, there's also Tobi, who is possible if he really does turn out to be Obito.I should kill the person who started that theory.. I mean.. the only evidence is the name.. which takes a pretty huge hit when you take into account that Obito is dead.

KuwabaraTheMan

07-07-2006, 11:15 PM

Well, there's also Tobi, who is possible if he really does turn out to be Obito.

Nah, Tobi is reincarnated Sarutobi aging rapidly to adulthood with the soul of Orochimaru's arms corrupting him slightly.

animehacker

07-08-2006, 05:55 AM

wow...
i was right you guys really do know
what youre talkin about lol

im totally lost

thanks for the help
i think i got it all cleared up

Icer

07-08-2006, 06:57 AM

I should kill the person who started that theory.. I mean.. the only evidence is the name.. which takes a pretty huge hit when you take into account that Obito is dead.Not a fan of the theory myself, but you also have to take into account his mask.
One eye having the focus of the swirls, the one that Obito would have had he not died.
The similarity in-name, as well as hair, and finally the mask.

I'd rather not see it happen, but it's not that far fetched to think he could have survived somehow and Kishimoto wanted it this way so he could set up a Kakashi vs Obito/Tobi fight later on in the manga.

Teek

07-08-2006, 12:31 PM

Also that Tobi is hanging out with a former Grass ninja. Interesting because Obito died in the Grass Country, and Zetsu has a thing about corpses.

Timmay

07-08-2006, 04:13 PM

His mask swirls around his right eye, but his right eye is every bit as crushed as his left eye was removed and put in Kakashi's head.

He died at peace with Kakashi, as a good guy, in the traditional "save yourselves" manner. There is no reason for him to turn from it unless he had some bizarre form of amnesia where you forget everything but your name, except you remember your name backwards

There also shouldn't be any interest in Obito's corpse, even if Zetsu turned out to be on that battlefield. I find it very unlikely that he was the only dead Uchiha, even then he was completely crushed from tons of boulders on his body.

HellCat

07-08-2006, 04:23 PM

Reversed names are a common way to show characters who are the reverse of what they originaly should have embodied (Thailog, Madnug, Uub, etc). Tobi could easily be Obito's reanimated corpse by some means who has the name in line with the aforementioned concept.

Timmay

07-08-2006, 04:42 PM

HellCat

07-08-2006, 04:48 PM

There's just no reason for him to have been revived.

I think Naruto forgot reason long ago.

Icer

07-08-2006, 05:40 PM

You dont see his eye crushed either, maybe his torso and legs were getting crushed and pinned, but never the less. I'm sure there's some fantasy reasoning to cure him to full if he does want to go down that route.

Tash

07-08-2006, 06:18 PM

There's just no reason for him to have been revived.
How long after Obito died was the Uchiha masacre? If it wasn't much later, they could have gone to get him out because he had the Sharingan. (and he was one of only 4 people who can)

KuwabaraTheMan

07-08-2006, 06:54 PM

Obito died before the 4th had even become Hokage.

The Uchiha Massacre happened when Sasuke was 8.

So there was around 9-10 years inbetween.

Timmay

07-13-2006, 01:01 PM

Summary of Chapter 315

Naruto's training involves alot of Kage Bunshins.
Naruto is dumb.
Naruto uses wind as his element.

FlyByNite77

07-13-2006, 05:49 PM

Did Kishimoto just rip-off Madrox from Marvel Comics?

Jamie Madrox (AKA Multiple Man) who can create many copies of himself. Peter David has always liked the character and when he wrote X-Factor he was one of the main members, then Peter David returned a year or so ago with a mini-series on Madrox and now there's a new X-Factor comic going.

Anyway Peter David used Madrox's ability to retain information from his dupes and so in order to give him some other abilities Madrox dispatched dupes of himself out for long-term projects to gain knowledge. One went into law so he got legal knowledge, one went for gymnastics so when he returned the original Madrox then had those abilities, etc...

If he wanted to read and learn something he could have one clone read one part, another yet another part and then combine them and would quickly have the info.