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Brettfern
12-10-2005, 09:16 AM
It seems that when I was younger, all my male friends liked Mighty Max and all my female friends liked Sailor Moon. But I think they were both great shows. Who do you like better?

King_of_doom
12-10-2005, 09:22 AM
Mighty Max.

Brettfern
12-10-2005, 09:24 AM
Mighty Max.
Yeah! Go, Ivan! Mighty Max rocks!

Paul_Cousins
12-10-2005, 09:52 AM
I have seen both series and I choose Mighty Max, if for any other reason than Richard Moll (played the character Bull on Night Court) voice acting a immortal warrior named Norman, who wields a very big sword and having a very badass attitude. :zim:

And yes, one the better episodes of Mighty Max dealt with how and why Norman is immortal. :cool:

AdamYJ
12-10-2005, 11:16 AM
Mighty Max. I thought the show was awesome. I liked almost all the characters. Max, Virgil, Norman, Max's mom, Bea, and even Felix (though, Max's crush Jiffy was a drip, but she was supposed to be). Skull Master kicked ass too. Though, my favorite villain was probably Cyberskull. I thought the toys were pretty cool too. I never got any because I was getting too old for them by the time they came out, but I thought they were put together in a pretty ingenious way (for example, the eye of the Cyclops set was actually a giant crawling eye monster when you opened it up). And there was just a certain gruesomeness about them that seemed like they'd be perfectly appealing to a little boy.

Though, the fact that I just finished a five part Mighty Max fanfic on the storyboard and have never written anything about Sailor Moon should likely have shown some of the posters on this thread that I skew in the Mighty Max direction.

Chad Bonin
12-10-2005, 12:37 PM
Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon had Sailor Dark Mercury. That alone in concept is better than anything the toyetic series could have done.

GregX
12-10-2005, 01:53 PM
Mighty Max.

Paul_Cousins
12-10-2005, 01:58 PM
Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon had Sailor Dark Mercury. That alone in concept is better than anything the toyetic series could have done.Sort of like "Dark Willow" from the season 6 finally of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer"...

On technical notes, Mighty Max was better in plot and characters, while Sailor Moon got more sugary with each passing season until finally I guess the animators overdosed on the sugar and they made the Sailor Stars. :sweat:

Saiko
12-10-2005, 02:24 PM
Sailor moon wasn't that sugary and the plots were pretty good the first few seasons. I can barely remember mighty max anymore I know I liked the show back then but I'd defenitly pick Sailor Moon over it.

Paul_Cousins
12-10-2005, 03:23 PM
Sailor moon wasn't that sugary and the plots were pretty good the first few seasons. I can barely remember mighty max anymore I know I liked the show back then but I'd defenitly pick Sailor Moon over it.Okay, I will agree that the Dark Kingdom and the Death Tree (or whatever it is called) sagas weren't that bad, but after that, it got real sugary real fast.

HellCat
12-10-2005, 03:34 PM
....The polls get weirder and weirder.

Nothing against Sailor Moon fans, but I'd take Mighty Max.

Master Moron
12-10-2005, 04:10 PM
Sailor Moon no contest. Well, the reason it's not a contest is because I really don't think I've ever watched Mighty Max. Wasn't the show based off of the toys?

HellCat
12-10-2005, 04:10 PM
Sailor Moon no contest. Well, the reason it's not a contest is because I really don't think I've ever watched Mighty Max. Wasn't the show based off of the toys?Yep, a British invented toyline.

Paul_Cousins
12-10-2005, 04:13 PM
....The polls get weirder and weirder.

Nothing against Sailor Moon fans, but I'd take Mighty Max.Oh really, I am waiting for someone to do a poll in which the question is asked: Which one is sexier, Ranma in his red-haired girl form or Naruto in his blond-haired "sexy jutsu" girl form? :p :evil:

Oh come on guys, don't look at me like that, somebody had to ask the question. :D

Fan of Sponge
12-10-2005, 04:19 PM
What's next; Kenny the Shark or The Simpsons?

In my opinion, Sailor Moon is better than Mighty Max. You just gotta like those magical girl anime shows.:D

CyberCubed
12-10-2005, 04:36 PM
I can barely remember Might Max. It's like something faint in the back of my mind. All I remember is that Max was voiced by the same guy who did Raphael in the old TMNT cartoon, and that everyone kept calling the wise master a chicken when he was a veil. Oh and that Skelleton main bad guy. I liked the toys though!

I remember watching Sailor Moon on Toonami as well and liking it. Never seen the uncut version, but from what I saw on Toonami I liked.

AdamYJ
12-10-2005, 05:00 PM
Wasn't the show based off of the toys?

Yes. But it was a very good show based off of toys. Often, an episode would be based on one of the little playsets, but it would take it in a very different direction than the implied plot of the toy would (there were these little comics on the toy packaging). They really should release the show on DVD. I'd buy it.


I can barely remember Might Max. It's like something faint in the back of my mind. All I remember is that Max was voiced by the same guy who did Raphael in the old TMNT cartoon, and that everyone kept calling the wise master a chicken when he was a veil. Oh and that Skelleton main bad guy.

Well, are you ever in luck. While writing my recent Mighty Max based fan fiction, I stumbled on a fair bit of information. Some of it came too late after I had already posted, but the fic was meant as a revamp anyway, so it worked out.

Here's Toonarific's encyclopedia entry: www.toonarific.com/show.php?show_id=2387

Here's a fansite in homage to the show: www.mightymax.co.uk/

And just for the heck of it, here's a link to pictures of the toyline: www.virtualtoychest.com/mightymax/mightymax.html

There you go.

Scythemantis
12-10-2005, 05:26 PM
This is the most nonsensical comparison ever.


I really don't think I've ever watched Mighty Max. Wasn't the show based off of the toys?No, not really. The show borrowed from the toy line so vaguely that you would never even see the connection if some of the names were different. Later in its life the toy line started including some characters from the show, but that's about it.

"Zomboid", the playset: a giant plastic zombie head that opens up to reveal a brain monster and a giant centipede. Has a silly comic on the back where max tricks them into eating eachother.

"Zomboid", the animated episode: Max goes overseas to help rid a village of tentacled, slug-like parasites that turn people into zombies.

"Vampire fly", the playset: a bloodsucking mutant fly-man and a giant fly live in a high-tech laboratory. Has a comic on the back where...max tricks them into eating eachother.

"Vampire fly", the episode: Max and co. track down a vampiress only to discover that real vampires turn into giant flies, suck blood through their tongues, and are unharmed by any traditional weaknesses, including sunlight.

The vampire fly episode had a scene wonderfully grotesque for a "kid's show": a room completely coated in maggots (actually "baby vampires"), drinking from a big pool of human blood. When they're discovered, the heroes are chased by a literal tidal wave of maggots. Bahahahaha.

AdamYJ
12-10-2005, 05:49 PM
No, not really. The show borrowed from the toy line so vaguely that you would never even see the connection if some of the names were different. Later in its life the toy line started including some characters from the show, but that's about it.

Don't forget this:

"Man Eater" the playset: Max's is trying to escape the lab of Dr. Kalamaris, a mad scientist who changed himself into a squid man for unknown reasons. There are also a couple of squids and a robotic manta ray or something (it's been a long time).

"Man Eater" the episode: Max goes down to the ruins of Atlantis where he meets Kalamaris, the leader of a race of squid people who are being terrorized by a giant squid. Max and friends have to scare off the giant squid to help Kalamaris and his people.

An interesting thing about the show is that it would often take a character who was supposedly a mad scientist or villian in the playset and turn them into a good guy for Max to help.

Another example: The "Battle Cat" playset had an evil caveman and his pet sabretoothed tiger trying to chase down Max. The TV episode had the caveman as an immortal hero of sorts who was locked in eternal combat with an immortal sabretoothed tiger.

Jave
12-10-2005, 05:55 PM
Sailor Moon by a longshot. I find Mighty Max to be extremely overrated.

Beat
12-10-2005, 06:59 PM
What do a kid in a baseball cap and a bunch of magical girls in short skirts have in common?

I suppose next they'll put up a "Robotech vs. Care Bears" poll.

AdamYJ
12-10-2005, 07:25 PM
What do a kid in a baseball cap and a bunch of magical girls in short skirts have in common?

I suppose next they'll put up a "Robotech vs. Care Bears" poll.

Well, one was a '90s action show for boys that aired in syndication.

The other is a girls action show that aired during the '90s in the US in syndication.

Though, that may be a little broad.

sdp
12-10-2005, 10:54 PM
you definately can not compare these two shows, but Sailor Moon wins easily, and i'm a big Mighty Max fan.

Spike Mcdougal
12-11-2005, 12:43 AM
Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon had Sailor Dark Mercury. That alone in concept is better than anything the toyetic series could have done.
And I bet it would be better if she was 19.

Chad Bonin
12-11-2005, 12:45 AM
No, no, Sailor Dark Mercury was in High School, but I'm pretty darn sure the actress was older.

UberMonkey
12-11-2005, 08:59 PM
No, no, Sailor Dark Mercury was in High School, but I'm pretty darn sure the actress was older.
A quick Google search she was 15 at the time of filming, actually. She's only 17 now. Way to go, Knux! :p

And besides, not only are you comparing the wrong Sailor Moon, I'm surprised as a Power Rangers fan your able to put down a series for being "toyetic." (I'm a Transformers fan though, so what do I know.)

Chad Bonin
12-12-2005, 12:07 AM
Power Rangers has Rangers that aren't made into figures at all, so it goes BEYOND being toyetic...

Scythemantis
12-12-2005, 12:11 AM
Power Rangers has Rangers that aren't made into figures at all, so it goes BEYOND being toyetic...And Mighty Max just did its own thing entirely. It always felt as if they had been told to make a series based on the toy line when they didn't really want to, so they poured all their creative effort into something that just barely pertains to it.

Chad Bonin
12-12-2005, 01:33 AM
A quick Google search she was 15 at the time of filming, actually. She's only 17 now. Way to go, Knux! :pOh... um... damn... really? I guess I'm so used to the American standard of "Add Ten Years To The Age Of The Character" rule when guessing ages.

... eh, 17's within my range.

HellCat
12-12-2005, 07:05 AM
And Mighty Max just did its own thing entirely. It always felt as if they had been told to make a series based on the toy line when they didn't really want to, so they poured all their creative effort into something that just barely pertains to it.I think you're going ever so slightly overboard. Whilst I'd agree it's wrong to say Power Rangers isn't about toys at the end of the day (come on, the US version even adds extra things to make into toys!), Mighty Max isn't as far removed from the toyline as you make out. It certainly was a better take on the idea but each episode was based on a toy and the central conflict was the same- Max's destiny with SkullMaster.

Pupmon 4.0
12-12-2005, 11:31 AM
Mostly due to the fact that I've never seen Mighty Max, I would have to choose Sailor Moon. Come to think of it, Sailor Moon was the first anime I watched on television.

Gary L Thompson
12-12-2005, 01:49 PM
I am a dyed-in-the-wool "Sailor Moon" fan, but I did watch a few "Mighty Max" episodes and mainly enjoyed them.

One big difference between the shows was that while Serena kept her family out of the loop, as is quite common in the teen-has-secret-identity-as-world-saving-superhero genere, "Mighty Max" broke the mold by having his mom know his secret and his partners, and she was even on hand for a few adventures.


Yes. But it was a very good show based off of toys. Often, an episode would be based on one of the little playsets, but it would take it in a very different direction than the implied plot of the toy would (there were these little comics on the toy packaging). They really should release the show on DVD. I'd buy it.
"Mighty Max" seems to have been one of BKN's most popular and fondly-remembered shows. Quite odd that it hasn't had a video release, but BKN is releasing a few other of its evergreens from yesteryear....

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=156479

New Noise
12-12-2005, 04:19 PM
This is one of the toughest decisions I've had to make in a while, but I'm going to go with Mighty Max.

Brettfern
12-12-2005, 04:23 PM
Quite odd that it hasn't had a video release
GoodTimes Home Video Platinum Series released two videos of Mighty Max in late 1993.

Rembrant
12-13-2005, 01:46 AM
I like both, but I'm gonna go for Mighty Max. I loved every aspect of it, and appreciated how mature and gory it could be for a cartoon, as there was blood, gruesome stuff, and deaths, whether main characters, secondary characters, and even innocent bystanders. I remember an episode where they had to battle an immortal, indestructible monster in a forest, a pretty shocking scene was shown when the group discovers that a family staying at a cabin was murdered by the monster, and though no blood or bodies were shown, it was plain enough from Norman's reaction what had happened, especially on the fact that the family had children.

So, pretty much for being gritty and yet quite fun, I definitely go with Mighty Max here.

Kurtman
12-15-2005, 07:35 PM
I like Mighty Max better!

New Noise
12-15-2005, 07:35 PM
you definately can not compare these two shows, but Sailor Moon wins easily, and i'm a big Mighty Max fan.
I was thinking the same thing... how can you compare these two shows?

rmarti3926
12-16-2005, 04:43 AM
Sailor Moon. 'nuff said.

Scythemantis
12-16-2005, 05:23 AM
I think you're going ever so slightly overboard. Whilst I'd agree it's wrong to say Power Rangers isn't about toys at the end of the day (come on, the US version even adds extra things to make into toys!), Mighty Max isn't as far removed from the toyline as you make out. It certainly was a better take on the idea but each episode was based on a toy and the central conflict was the same- Max's destiny with SkullMaster.The toy line's plot had the hat teleporting him to completely random little evil universes for no explained reason, and Skull Master wasn't the main villain at all. It was just the last few playsets that started using the show's storyline.

It was like the "pac-man" cartoon in that it created a whole elaborate universe that only used a few major designs and names from an existing product.

Daikun
12-16-2005, 06:21 AM
I was never a big fan of Sailor Moon myself. Mighty Max was great. I watched it every morning before heading off to school. Good times.

HellCat
12-16-2005, 07:18 AM
The toy line's plot had the hat teleporting him to completely random little evil universes for no explained reason, and Skull Master wasn't the main villain at all. It was just the last few playsets that started using the show's storyline.

It was like the "pac-man" cartoon in that it created a whole elaborate universe that only used a few major designs and names from an existing product.No, the toyline's plot was that Max was warped where he was needed, one place after another. At the same time it was all training to prepare him for his true nemesis, Skull Master, who was the villain of the largest set of the first wave. The second wave was more tied into the show and a once a wave appearance became the standard for Skull Master.
You have to respect that initially this was a British created toyline with a focus on each playset being an 'experience' unto itself but with a larger storyline for those with the money to follow it. Mighty Max came at a time when clamshell-style playsets were the in thing.

AdamYJ
12-16-2005, 04:20 PM
Mighty Max came at a time when clamshell-style playsets were the in thing.

Mighty Max and Polly Pocket were the ones who created that trend, I think. I remember seeing the commercials and toys of Mighty Max and Polly Pocket first. Then, not long after, all sorts of licenses were releasing the things. There were the Power Ranger ones, X-Men ones and I believe there may have even been a couple Ninja Turtle ones before the TMNT officially entered their period of pop culture dormancy.

trayguy
12-17-2005, 04:02 AM
Sailor Moon defineetly those girls were hot!