A Ultimen Series?

[Jeffery Duke]

So I was looking over some of my favorite JLU episodes today and came across the Ultimen show. Man those were some great character. I just love how it was DC's way of making up for being really racist in the past.

Anyway, I was thinking it would awesome to have an Ultimen series. They could write it off as a future DCU series and have it after the time when Waller became a JL liason and per request of Wonder Woman (who still misses Long Shadow) they try to fix the problem with the original Ultimen and are successful. They make new Ultimen and implant them with the memories of the old and all that jazz. It would make for a pretty cool "in between JLU and Batman Beyond" series that explains all in between like that near-amageddon everyone in BB talks about. I don't know...give me your input on it all.

[Bones Justice]

How was DC really racist in the past?

I don't think it would be in character for Wonder Woman to ask them to make a copy of her deceased friend. Though perhaps, if Cadmus or someone else recreated them (successfully) anyways, they could have some interesting stories about dealing with life as an artificial being or with life as a mere copy of an original. But for those stories to really work as a series, I think the original Ultimen would need more history to base the whole thing off of. I'd rather see the whole artificial being or cloned memories stories written about a character that I already know a lot about rather than one that was only around for one episode.

Still, I agree that the characters were cool. I really liked Longshadow. I wish they could have done a follow up episode where he was cured and joined the League. But probably, an episode about death is not allowed on a "kids show" unless it's something like how they handled the "death" of Superman -- that is, not really death at all.

[Bones Justice]

As I've written before, it seems okay to have non-human, undead, red-shirts, or alien beings die in these kinds of shows. Heck, the good guys can even "kill" them and it's okay. Besides, Grundy has died before and came back so that kind of takes the sting out of the whole thing.

I've missed your reference to Epilogue, I guess.

[Jeffery Duke]

In Epilogue during one of Terry's imagination sequences he just let's Bruce die on the floor of the Bat-Cave.

Anyway, I think the interesting thing about having a series is that it would give the characters a chance to have real history. They could learn more and more about how they were made and maybe they could do stories of how their super-powers were extracted from real heroes and thus making them their semi-parents.

[Bones Justice]

I guess that didn't strike me as all that emotional. I mean, like you said, he was imagining it. I suppose that's as close to having a hero die in one of these shows as they will ever get.

Oh, yeah, and what was with the racist part?

[Invidente 7]

I guess that didn't strike me as all that emotional. I mean, like you said, he was imagining it. I suppose that's as close to having a hero die in one of these shows as they will ever get.

Oh, yeah, and what was with the racist part?I don't think it's racism as it is really forced political correctness which means: always add a superhero of every culture possible even if doesn't really fit in the group :sweat:

[Bones Justice]

I don't think it's racism as it is really forced political correctness which means: always add a superhero of every culture possible even if doesn't really fit in the group :sweat:Oh, I see. Kind of like (any version of) Star Trek. Or The West Wing. Or 24. Or Lost.

I've never really thought about it before but the creators of Star Trek: Voyager must have been big fans of Super Friends because they created a similar cast of characters for their show. Both shows featured a strong female character who was essentially an outcast from a warrior race, an Asian male, a Native American male, and a Black Vulcan. :D

[Gorthaur]

In Epilogue during one of Terry's imagination sequences he just let's Bruce die on the floor of the Bat-Cave.I think it more likely that GMahler was referring to Amanda Waller's story, shown to us as a flashback, in which Ace (the psychic girl, not the dog or the robot) died in Batman's arms.

[BlackoutCreature]

Ok, to try to bring this thread back on topic, i would have to say no to an Ultimen series. As much fun as a bridge series between JLU and Batman Beyond would be, why the Ultimen? "Ultimatum" was largely considered a disappointment by the fanbase (i know i wasnt a fan of the episode). They were all rather thin characters based off even stupider characters from the Superfriends. There r a ton of other characters or teams that i think could work so much better in such a situation.