Family Guy "The Courtship of Stewie's Father" Talkback (Spoilers)

[NickWhiz1]

"The Courtship of Stewie's Father" Episode #419.
Stewie steps up his efforts to kill Lois, who orders Peter to spend more time with him.

Cast: Seth MacFarlane, Alex Borstein, Seth Green, Mila Kunis, Mike Henry, Carrie Fisher, John Veiner , Adam West, Fred Tatasciore, Mo Collins, Phil LaMarr, Jennifer Jean Snyder .
Producer(s): Seth MacFarlane, David Zuckerman.

Original Airdate: November 20, 2005.


We're getting close to the end of Season 4...almost time for the oh-so-fun "What was your favorite episode of Season 4?" poll. I expect North by North Quahog and PTV to be the two favorites to win that title...

[Daffy Dork]

Stewie's actually going to try to kill Lois again?

It's been ages since we had one of those....

[Sr.Infierno]

Stewie's actually going to try to kill Lois again?

It's been ages since we had one of those....The last time there was a "Kill Lois" reference was, I think, in the Season 4 premeire

[Timmay]

Surprise cock fight.. that's the best thing ever

[Juu-kuchi]

Do we really need Opie?

Nice extension of Obi-Wan's explanation of how Tusken Raiders easily frighten and come back in numbers.

Christian Soundwave!

[Youko Recca]

Do we really need Opie?
Who is that?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

"They'll be back, and in greater numbers." Great use of a Star Wars reference.

Back to the Future was funny and unexpected. Peter's job here is better then when it was introduced.

[G1Ravage]

Who is that?
Opie is the retarded employee.

YES!!!! SOUNDWAVE!!!!!!!!

[Carolina Red]

You mean Lois can't put two and two together?

Great appearances by Soundwave and Herbert the Child Molester.

[Timmay]

PBJ time sucked :(

[Teek]

PBJ time sucked :(Man, I thought that was funny as hell. :p

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Peter and Stewie's bonding was good, Peanut Butter Jelly sucked though.

[Dee]

I LOVE a good BTTF joke.

Man, the whole 'kill lois' thing gets taken a little too far.

[Timmay]

Man, I thought that was fun as hell.
My comments come from my hatred of that little thing. Anyway, the attacking Lois thing was great.

[NickWhiz1]

This song is completely unnecessary.

[Timmay]

This song is completely unnecessary.
And at the same time hilarious.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Disney's Stock Slide rocked.

Herbert's dream fallsi nto the just plain wrong category. Went on way too long as well, should've been a quick thing.

[Cactusjack1999]

PBJ Time was hiliarious. The fact that they animated it for the show was great. I wonder how many people will acctaulyl "get" the joke of it.

And I believe that is our 3rd or 4th Indiana Jones sequence this season.

[sdp]

it was actually a solid episode, probably the first one i enjoy this "season". The PBJ time song was the best part, internet pop reference made it to the show :D

[Carolina Red]

Herbert's song was wrong and funny at the same time. I like how their kids would turn out. The Indiana Jones, Small World and Dumbo Crow parodies were great.

By the way, is the Peanut Butter thing supposed to be a reference to something, because I must be out of the loop if it is.

[Jazman]

The Chris/ Herbert Plot wasn't needed. We get it already.

Other than that, great episode.
And PBJ time, I wasn't sure what to make of that. Maybe if I watch it again, I'll have a better opinion.

4/5

[Pugs Malone]

It's weird that they couldn't get the rights to "It's a Small World," but were able to lift an entire song from "Little Shop of Horrors".

[Nin-Nin69]

The only funny parts were Soundwave and BTTF. Everything else was awful.

Also Seth got his sources wrong with PB&J since it was originally "a potato" and the site it was on was bought out. The banana was there, but just danced in the corner.

Plus there is no Indiana Jones ride at Disney World, but it's at Disney Land. However the stunt show is at MGM.

[Sr.Infierno]

The PBJ Time bit was the best part, FG could use more internet pop culture references

[FidoMcCokefiend]

Soundwave: PWN
PBJ Time: WIN
Little shop of horrors ref WITHOUT Audry 2: Made of WIN and GOD

Best. Episode. Ever. any ep that makes me hyperventilate durring a musical number OWNS ALL

[moreysurf8]

This was one of the worst Family Guy's...ever. All the jokes were terrible, the pacing was awful, they had even more HILARIOUS CAMEOS. And the stuff with Stewie and Peter torturing Lois was just kind of awful and offensive.What's happened to this show?

[Captain Harlock]

Wow! I am in shock. That might have been the worst episode of anything I've ever seen since the last season of Sealab. *rimshot* With that kind of wit, I could write for the show. The writers must be following some kind of formula to write bad episodes like this. The old man is old and tired, the Ollie jokes are old and tired and just need to be put to rest.

[Delthayre]

Well, that was rather dismal.

A few of the jokes in the first act and the sheer shock of Peter and Stewie's mistreatment of Lois made me laugh, but beyond that all I did was nonplussedly stare at the screen. The jokes seemed rather sparse and poorly conceived.

I really would have preferred that Herbert had never been used past his first appearance. He was an amusingly disturbing gag the first time, but obnoxious beyond that. Trying to stretch a weird gimmick like him into a subplot, and a weak one at that, was annoying.

However, what really baffled me was the stupidity with which they handeled Peter's bonding with Stewie. They knocked Lois unconscious and pushed the care containing her into a river and all she can offer is some standard-issue spousal anger that doesn't even seem to have a bearing on the rest of the episode. And then Bryan, formerly seemingly possessed of morality and reason, doesn't rightfully upbraid Peter like as in the episode wherein Peter pretended at divinity, but just wastes the audience's time with a lame and laughless imitation of a tiresome internet phenomenon.

Character episodes are good, but looking more deeply at a relationship between two characters while sapping two others of their own distinctness is just pointless.

This episode was stupid, and I hate it.

[toonfan2003]

I thought Peter and Stewie torturing Lois was funny. Family Guy is supposed to be offensive. Jesus, people. Am i the only person who can enjoy a show without having to laugh every second? This was still a good episode.

[moreysurf8]

I thought Peter and Stewie torturing Lois was funny. Family Guy is supposed to be offensive. Jesus, people. Am i the only person who can enjoy a show without having to laugh every second? This was still a good episode.I'm no prude...but I honestly just found that very dumb, I like offensive humor and that was offensive and unfunny which is worse than just being offensive. And also...it's not that I didn't laugh every second, I didn't laugh at all, through the entire episode.

[Delthayre]

I thought Peter and Stewie torturing Lois was funny. Family Guy is supposed to be offensive. Jesus, people. Am i the only person who can enjoy a show without having to laugh every second? This was still a good episode. Very few people seem offended, but many seem to think that the jokes were sparse and those that were there were humorless.

And we watch Family Guy so we can laugh somewhere around, "every second." That's what the show has built its appeal on. And if its changing horses midstream, it's doing so in the manner of a retarded, triple-amputee midget who knows nothing about riding horses.

[Nin-Nin69]

However, what really baffled me was the stupidity with which they handeled Peter's bonding with Stewie. They knocked Lois unconscious and pushed the care containing her into a river and all she can offer is some standard-issue spousal anger that doesn't even seem to have a bearing on the rest of the episode. And then Bryan, formerly seemingly possessed of morality and reason, doesn't rightfully upbraid Peter like as in the episode wherein Peter pretended at divinity, but just wastes the audience's time with a lame and laughless imitation of a tiresome internet phenomenon. Which helps prove that both Lois and Brian and been dumbed down in character for horrible gags. This entire season has been a real let down for both. Sure we can pick on Meg and say she's got it the worst, but that's the writers fault for not doing a better job with making stories and development for her. Brian is no longer Brian and Lois is getting dumber and less redeeming every episode.

[Sr.Infierno]

Looks like everyone's gettin' on the "hate bandwagon"

[SirLemming]

Eh, it was okay. Bad parts and good parts.

I thought there was good Stewie/Lois stuff and good Stewie/Brian stuff. I guess that was mostly toward the beginning, though.

My personal least favorite part was the Hebrew slavery cutaway -- because they pretty much did steal a joke from The Simpsons right there. In "Simpsons Bible Stories", after the Exodus, Milhouse (as Moses) says something along the lines of "Oh, but it's smooth sailing for the Jews after that, right?"

[NickWhiz1]

An average episode here. Some good jokes, some bad jokes, some completely awful and unnecessary jokes.

2.5/5

[Delthayre]

Looks like everyone's gettin' on the "hate bandwagon"
No, I doubt it. I came to the conclusion that this episode was awful while I was watching it. I hadn't even read any posts on the matter before I posted my own castigation of it. I imagine most of the people who preceded most likely came to the decision that it was a bad episode on their own as well.

[Nin-Nin69]

No, I doubt it. I came to the conclusion that this episode was awful while I was watching it. I hadn't even read any posts on the matter before I posted my own castigation of it. I imagine most of the people who preceded most likely came to the decision that it was a bad episode on their own as well.
He's right. I don't have to breath in hate posts to realise that this episode wasn't up to par.

[moreysurf8]

Looks like everyone's gettin' on the "hate bandwagon"To be honest, I knew this episode was bad about halfway through. And also since when are people with dissenting opinions suddenly a bandwagon?

[Classic Speedy]

This was one of the worst Family Guy's...ever. All the jokes were terrible, the pacing was awful, they had even more HILARIOUS CAMEOS. And the stuff with Stewie and Peter torturing Lois was just kind of awful and offensive.What's happened to this show? I couldn't agree more. You know I usually try to give Family Guy the benefit of the doubt, since it has consistently made me laugh during the first three seasons, but this one was just bad. Bad characterization, bad timing/delivery on the jokes, a sideplot that was completely pointless and went NOWHERE, and outdated jokes.

Case in point: The Peanut Butter Jelly Time. Not only was this past its prime two years ago, but all they did was regurgitate it. No twist on the gag, nothing. That's completely lazy.

Second case in point: The gag with Disney's plummeting stock was done before in the Simpsons episode "Special Edna". It wasn't exactly the same (Enron instead of Disney), but the basic joke was the same. And that was from THREE YEARS AGO.

I chuckled at the cock fight massacre part, and maybe the part where Lois was sprayed with the hose, but that's about it. Come on, Family Guy staff, you CAN do better.

[TnAdct1]

Once again, here's my list of the highlights of the episode:

-The Sand People Chior
-Stewie smacking a fellow baby via Patty Cake
-Soundwave as Peter's co-worker
-Brian as the "Peanut Butter Jelly Time" Banana (now if only they had Mayor Adam West singing Macarron Chacarron)
-Captain EO coming out the screen and grabbing a kid from the audience
-Herbert's scene-for-scene spoof of "Somewhere That's Green" from Little Shop of Horrors.

[Frank]

This episode was pretty funny but not great. Some funny gags, such as Brian's dance, Stewie and Peter's giving Lois a hard time, etc. The whole Disney World scene was great as well. Herbert's song was pretty weird and twisted.:eek:

3.5/5 A good but not great episode of FG.

[Jazman]

This was one of the worst Family Guy's...ever. All the jokes were terrible, the pacing was awful, they had even more HILARIOUS CAMEOS. And the stuff with Stewie and Peter torturing Lois was just kind of awful and offensive.What's happened to this show?
I disagree. "Jungle Love" gets that Title. I"m not sure what all the screaming is about, But this episode was not as bad as everyone seems to be making it out to be.
The only bad thing was the Herbert Plot, but there wasn't enough of that to make an impact (IMO), and a lot of people liked the LSOH parody. The jokes at Disney world were funny, and FYI, Family Guy was off the air for 3 years, so yeah, the jokes need to catch up. And I'm sure that people will be screaming "Simpsons Did It" for the Stock slide, But I don't care. It's still funny.

But I guess they all can't be "PTV".

[MJC]

This was...ok. The funniest part was Peter and Stewie beating up Lois. They really need to go easy on the old child molester guy, he's only funny in short doses.

[Cactusjack1999]

http://penutbutterjellytimefg.ytmnd.com/

Twas only a matter of time till someone posted this.

[Michael24]

Freakin' hysterical! My brother and I probably missed half the dialogue in each scene because we were laughing so hard. Brian's peanut butter rap (was that from a commercial?), Stewie's machine stuck spinning in the wall while Brian bounced pennies of his head, Peter and Stewie tormenting Lois, all of the scenes at Disneyworld, especially the Indiana Jones ride finale and Michael Eisner as Mola Ram, were hilarious. I can honestly say the only low point was the old guy's song, which I thought went on way too long, or at least felt like it did. Otherwise, a solid A+ from me.

[ManicWebb]

"It's like Michael Jackson is coming right at me!"

I don't care what the rest of you say. I loved this episode! The entire sequence at Disney World was hilarious. The crows, the Indiana Jones chase, the killing of Michael Eisner (talk about your cathartic experiences). I also loved them lifting Audrey's "Somewhere That's Green" sequence out of Little Shop of Horrors.

I even liked the PBJ Time joke. I totally missed out on whatever internet trend you guys are talking about, but I remember laughing at this song with my cousin and step-bro quite a few years back.

[judyindisguise]

I watch the reruns of the new eps sometimes on Adult Swim.

Suffice it to say, "Family Guy" has never impressed me much. When a show is all about pushing the envelope and not much else, it has a great deal of trouble topping itself week after week. Pretty soon all you notice is how terribly terribly hard the writers are trying to make you laugh and how that's pretty much become a substitute for actual humor.

I thought the fact that Stewie had pretty much gotten away from trying to kill mommy was a GOOD thing. Now he's back at it again and gotten that animated prop named Peter in on it. I think I'll pass on viewing this ep this Thursday. IMO, the weakest "Simpsons" episode beats any ep of "Family Guy" hands down, if only because "The Simpsons" has a better cast of characters and generally the show is ABOUT that cast of characters, not the latest buzzword or scandal or a constant flow of flashbacks consisting of a famous person and a member of the cast engaging in something weird or just plain naughty. Man, has THAT gotten old. :yawn:

[Freedom Fighter]

I kinda liked that Stewie had regressed back to his 'I want to kill Lois' stage, and bringing Peter into it was funny. Until they drowned her in the car in the river and they had that 'forever and day' constant laughter joke.

I'm not sure of the origins of 'Peanut Butter and Jelly Time,' but a reference was made to it on an episode of 'The Proud Family.' It's an episode guest-starring 3rd Storee and Dijonnay skipping out on babysitting, leaving her seven siblings with Penny. Anyway, that aired two or three years ago, so, yeah... it's like the writers continue to reference jokes that would be timely if the show had never been cancelled for those three years. Which really doesn't fly, IMO.

The trip to Disney World was dull... the only good part was Stewie being forced into slavery and singing 'It's a Tiny, Tiny World.' But not the slavery part itself.

6 out of 10 for "The Courtship of Stewie's Father."

[Peter Paltridge]

So the banana thing was from the Internet? Whatever it was, I completely missed it in its prime. How much longer do we have to wait for Family Guy to do something with H*R? Seriously. I'm begging you, Seth.

I didn't see "Little Shop of Horrors" and so I thought Herbert's song was awful. If they want him to appear this often, they should think up some more creepy things for him to be doing other than lusting after Chris.

Not enough Disney slams in the third act (sorry, I find Disney slams very funny, as my website's offering this week will probably make clear). I did like Eisner as Mola Ram.

I was hoping the BTTF scene was going somewhere good, but it was Doc being racist, which wasn't funny. I hope we get a better BTTF cutaway in an upcoming episode.

[email2003]

Brain in the peanut butter thing made me laugh hard! I did not see this one coming!:D

Michael Jackson coming out of the screen and kidnapping that kid was a crack up!:p

[Nin-Nin69]

Well then again the only other funny scene I forgot to mention was Moonwalker 3D.

[Tea]

There's people here who are not familiar with Peanut Butter Jelly Time?!

You couldn't escape its wrath a few years ago.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/peanutbutter.html

[Lonestarr]

Random thoughts (from what I saw):

- So, that perverted old man is back. Why?

- They made fun of Kim Cattrall. Stupid writers; they'd do her and they know it.

- "Halle Berry's Wild Ride". Wow, dated much?

- "Do it or star in a Tim Allen Christmas movie!" That was funny, as was the stock slide gag.

Yeah, a lot of you are right; it's not that funny now.

[Nin-Nin69]

There's people here who are not familiar with Peanut Butter Jelly Time?!

You couldn't escape its wrath a few years ago.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/peanutbutter.html
And that is why I made that statement earier. People think that is the original and it's not. Which is why Eric B takes undeserving credit for that.

[SirLemming]

- They made fun of Kim Cattrall. Stupid writers; they'd do her and they know it. Oh come on, that was hilarious. One of my favorite parts of the episode, even though I only slightly know who Kim Cattrall is.

I also really liked the Back To the Future cutaway. It was... well, I don't have to explain it. You know the joke. I enjoyed it.

[Tea]

And that is why I made that statement earier. People think that is the original and it's not. Which is why Eric B takes undeserving credit for that.I posted the link because it's the one FG referenced and the version most people are familiar with.

[Fone Bone]

- They made fun of Kim Cattrall. Stupid writers; they'd do her and they know it.
.Quoted for truth.

I didn't mind this episode. It was funny. I LOVE that of all the things to parody of Little Shop of Horrors they chose "someplace that's green". But yeah, it went on too long and the perverted guy isn't funny anymore.

Soundwave as Peter's new co-worker was funny.

Stewie and Peter bonding was nice although I was a little annoyed that Stewie felt Peter betrayed him. Getting sent to your room for pulling a Susan Smith? Dude, your mom is cool.

The Tim Allen line was hilarious.

Bad things? It's gotten to the point that the writers are scraping the bottom of the pop-culture barrel. If have no idea what the peanut butter and jelly gag meant and as it didn't seem to have a twist or any relationship to the episode. Meh.

Also noticed the cribbing of two Simpsons gags. Both were taken from later seasons and got laughs from people here tonight so interpret that as you will.

For the first time in a long time Family Guy was better than The Simpsons which was absolute crap last night. I totally agree that a lot of the jokes fell flat here but honestly seeing as my only requirement these days from this show is an occasional chuckle I think my standards have become pretty low. ***.

[Classic Speedy]

Another reason the PBJT gag sucked: The exact same kind of thing was done in an episode of "Ed", where Ed tries to cheer up Carol by playing PBJT on his laptop.

[SirLemming]

PBJ Time probably would've been funnier if it was shorter.

[Dee]

I enjoyed the episode a ton. About the only thing that didn't have me laughing was the whole song with the old man. I was sitting here going "Is it over yet?"


Otherwise, an awesome episode.

[The Gunnshuu]

It was okay. It was interesting to see an episode focusing on Stewie and Peter's relationship for once.

I laughed hard at Peanut Butter Jelly Time because I didn't know the context of the joke, so it felt absolutely random to me and wasn't annoyed by it as others apparently were.

As far as Peter and Stewie's homicide attempts on Lois, I was on the line between hysterical laughter (probably because Peter and Stewie were maniacally laughing) and absolute shock (that was an extreme example of black humor).

ENOUGH WITH THE TRANSFORMERS, INDIANA JONES, AND STAR WARS PARODIES. YOU HAVE ALREADY FILLED THE QUOTAS FOR THESE REFERENCES THIS SEASON.

Herbert's song took too long since I didn't know the source material, so I was waiting for it to be over.

I really liked Halle Berry's Wild Ride; it took only a few seconds and had a huge payoff. I wish Family Guy would go back to doing those kinds of jokes again. Rest of the episode ranged from amusing to forgettable.
C+

[Fan of Sponge]

The episode was rather slow until Peter took Stewie to Disney World. That moment when Stewie jumping up and down was great since most children would do that when their parents take them to Disney World.:D Loved how there wasn't a whole lot of gags. Brian dressing as a banana remind me of the dancing banana on the avatar. Herbert song was good also, but rather twisted. Michael Esiner appearance wasn't a surprise when they went to Disney World.

I give this episode an A.

[Daffyfan2003]

We're getting close to the end of Season 4...almost time for the oh-so-fun "What was your favorite episode of Season 4?" poll. I expect North by North Quahog and PTV to be the two favorites to win that title...

Actually, I thought it was season 5. Weren't the eps that aired over the summer season 4?


Stewie's actually going to try to kill Lois again?

It's been ages since we had one of those....

I agree. She almost caught on this time when Peter started joining him with the Lois bashing. You'd think the pictures that he drew at daycare would have been a dead giveway though. Lois must not be very bright. Lol.

[Jyose]

Peter beating up Micheal Eisner
Stewie and Peter plot
Lois and the daycare lady not noticing anything wierd about the drawings except that Peter isn't in them
Several of the stabs at Disney(they deserved it)
"Good ol' family racism"

I've been wondering if they were ever going to have them actually interact, but they finally did and did a good job of it. Peter beating his wife to make stewie happy was priceless... as was Stewie in miniature Peter clothes.

Brian as that one Banana? I was laughing, not because of the banana, but out of supprise that they actually used an internet refference, I hope they don't go to 4chan.org :P

Chris and Herbert? That could've filled it's own episode with a few tweaks, but as a side plot it didn't work. Ya know though, with a plot involving disney, they could've said something about their sequel addiction :P

[Killtacular]

IMO, the weakest "Simpsons" episode beats any ep of "Family Guy" hands down, if only because "The Simpsons" has a better cast of characters and generally the show is ABOUT that cast of characters, not the latest buzzword or scandal or a constant flow of flashbacks consisting of a famous person and a member of the cast engaging in something weird or just plain naughty. Man, has THAT gotten old. :yawn:
Hahahaha, you can't possibly be serious. Tonight's episode was based on the RECALL ELECTION OF 2003. Simpsons is way more desperate and outdated than Family Guy, despite all FG's flaws.

[Conan-san]

I found it fairly good, Soundwave, PBJT, the whole "Kill Lolis with added Peter" thing, Disney world with Eisner with the whole "He'll be back" thing.

I agree the whole subplot with Chris draged but hey, not the first time B plots sucked.

[judyindisguise]

Hahahaha, you can't possibly be serious. Tonight's episode was based on the RECALL ELECTION OF 2003. Simpsons is way more desperate and outdated than Family Guy, despite all FG's flaws.
"The Simpsons" has been around a lot longer than "Family Guy", therefore it has a better reason to be desperate. :D What's "Family Guy"'s excuse?

[Scythemantis]

Family Guy isn't "desperate". It was always about bizarre, shocking, niche humor. If that's what you don't like, that's fine, but the fact remains that it's the best bizarre, shocking, niche humor in animation to date.

Simpsons however is an entirely different show that slowly became something the writers suck at doing.


And I can't believe some people haven't seen "Little Shop of Horrors".

[Zyzzybalubah]

Family Guy was pretty good last night. I didn't get Peanut Butter Jelly Time until now, it was alright I suppose, kind of funny but meh. Herbert the Pedophile is always a welcome character in my book, lol, even if he is really sick. That song he had with him and Chris married had me laughing my ass off and the last part with him was great too, "Up next on ESPN, World Series Little League Baseball", "Hurray!" hahahahahahahaha, it's wrong but so funny. Stewie and Peter going against Lois was pretty funny, but their whole laughing dragged on IMO (that's a big problem on this show, they tend to drag-on with LOTS of their jokes, see Osama bin Laden joke on "PTV".) Like I said this isn't the greatest show and while the references they make may get older later, their very funny when they're fresh, i.e. The back to the Futre joke with Doc being a racist and later trying to cover it. All in all, a pretty decent episode and better than last week's.

[The Koopinator]

because they pretty much did steal a joke from The Simpsons right there. In "Simpsons Bible Stories", after the Exodus, Milhouse (as Moses) says something along the lines of "Oh, but it's smooth sailing for the Jews after that, right?"
Don't forget the Disney Stock Slide (sort of).

[shoujoaifan]

"The Simpsons" has been around a lot longer than "Family Guy", therefore it has a better reason to be desperate. :D What's "Family Guy"'s excuse?IF you mean by using the same sitcom plots and Simpsons-Characters-Specific plots for over 16 seasons now and having trouble with coming up with something new, than yes. (I can't see them not being able to come up with something new, or at least adding new spins on old ideas.)

IF you mean material in general that they can use, then your overlooking current or relatively recent events. Yes, it does take awhile to animate episodes, so they can't be up-to-the-minute. BUT there's some things that go on and continue to go that they can use (the Gay Marriage issue is still going, although that episode supposedly sucked, never saw it.). Hell, having the SuperBowl episode deal with the Janet Jackson issue was at least around the time the Super Bowl was coming out this year, and fit the theme.

But there's plenty of current events that don't end in a few weeks but go on for years that they can use. They just need to write it and write it well.



(And for what its worth, I normally enjoy most of the Simpsons episodes of the last 2 seasons or so, so I don't think the Simpsons is utter garbage without giving it a chance. It has its strengths and weaknesses.)

[K-S-O]

I felt that Herbert's song brought down the whole episode. I don't know, it just felt out of place. I did like Peanut Butter Jelly Time, only because the song was catchy. The best part was when Lois was looking at all of Stewie's drawings of her getting killed and she did not know what Stewie was actually thinking.

[Bunai]

Once again, here's my list of the highlights of the episode:

-The Sand People Chior
-Stewie smacking a fellow baby via Patty Cake
-Soundwave as Peter's co-worker
-Brian as the "Peanut Butter Jelly Time" Banana (now if only they had Mayor Adam West singing Macarron Chacarron)
-Captain EO coming out the screen and grabbing a kid from the audience
-Herbert's scene-for-scene spoof of "Somewhere That's Green" from Little Shop of Horrors.i thought the entire episode was hystarical!! :anime:
nice to see Peter interact more with Stewie....even if it was abusive XD LOL sorry, but Lois can be very dense sometimes.

[Fone Bone]

And I can't believe some people haven't seen "Little Shop of Horrors".To be fair the song it was a take-off of is hardly Little Shop's best or most memorable number. That would be Suddenly Seymour.:D

[MGFanJay]

Herbert's song was hilarious, and incredibly disturbing at the same time. The stuff with Stewie and Peter bonding was funny, if a bit sickening at times. Peter's moronic superior being promoted was great. They need Gary Cole to do a guest shot and make use of Peter's new job.

[judyindisguise]

Family Guy isn't "desperate". It was always about bizarre, shocking, niche humor. If that's what you don't like, that's fine, but the fact remains that it's the best bizarre, shocking, niche humor in animation to date.

Simpsons however is an entirely different show that slowly became something the writers suck at doing.


And I can't believe some people haven't seen "Little Shop of Horrors".
I have no problem with bizarre, shocking etc. humor except for the fact that it gets boring very quickly (at least to me). "Family Guy", IMO, is at its weakest when it's all about blasting people's sensibilities. I'd much rather it made me laugh, which it has at times (I love the episode when Brian and Stewie went on a journey to find Brian's mother. The "Road" song - a la Bob Hope and Bing Crosby - that they sang at the end was pure gold IMO. That's my favorite ep so far.) For the most part, "Family Guy" reminds me a bit of the latter seasons of "Ren and Stimpy" when the whole point of the show apparently became How Totally Can We Gross People Out This Week? instead of being funny.

But it's all a matter of opinion, of course. :)

[90'sCartoonMan]

I had a few minor complaints about the episode, but overall, I enjoyed it. Yeah, they used a couple jokes from the Simpsons (heck, even Peter and Stewie laughing all day was like the Mr. Burns one), and I didn't think spraying Lois with the hose was funny (I laughed at everything else, though). Ollie has worn out his welcome.

The Disney World stuff was great. Eisner, and that Michael Jackson thing (when I was a kid, it creeped me out too, but I never even thought about him coming out of the screen and grabbing me...it's a wonder I got to sleep last night). Then there was the God/Jesus joke...that did happen on Family Guy and not American Dad, right? Man, I can't even remember.

Poor Herbert. This episode proved that he's not a pervert, he's just a lonely old man. He enjoyed the time he spent with Chris, even if it was non-sexual. That song was touching and heartfelt (although those kids looked creepy).

[LordTerminal]

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Twas only a matter of time till someone posted this.
Get me an animated GIF file I can use as my avatar to spite people with and you will be the next person on my list of heroes.

Seriously, I always thought Ebaum's World was full of garbage, more the reason why I stayed the hell away when PBJT became a hit. Because I had no idea such things existed at that site.

I still don't see why people hate that joke. I can't watch it without nearly falling out of my chair. (In fact that link had the same effect.)

[Frank]

Which helps prove that both Lois and Brian and been dumbed down in character for horrible gags. This entire season has been a real let down for both. Sure we can pick on Meg and say she's got it the worst, but that's the writers fault for not doing a better job with making stories and development for her. Brian is no longer Brian and Lois is getting dumber and less redeeming every episode.
I have to agree. You can't really blame Meg for all the problems with her character lately, it basically is the writers fault. They are trying to find any way to degrade and destroy her character. Lois is certainly less likable this season, in the first 3 seasons her morals were a bit twisted but she was pretty well meaning. Brian's character has taken a bit of a drop downhill. His racism basically came out of nowhere, like Lois he too has lost some of his moral fiber as well. I sure hope the writers can improve on the characters I've talked about above.

[judyindisguise]

I have to agree. You can't really blame Meg for all the problems with her character lately, it basically is the writers fault. They are trying to find any way to degrade and destroy her character. Lois is certainly less likable this season, in the first 3 seasons her morals were a bit twisted but she was pretty well meaning. Brian's character has taken a bit of a drop downhill. His racism basically came out of nowhere, like Lois he too has lost some of his moral fiber as well. I sure hope the writers can improve on the characters I've talked about above.It's as if the show's writers have no confidence in their characters at all - and they may be right to feel that way. None of the characters in FG IMO is intrinsically funny, except for the incongruity of a talking dog or evil genius baby, neither of which are original ideas. So the writers' solution apparently is to try to make the characters even shallower, stupider or meaner in an attempt to wring out a laugh. And that's what I mean by "desperation". Really, there's no need. There are other ways to get a laugh! The writers of FG have done it! For instance, when Brian and Stewie interact and make wry comments to each other or the audience, they're a scream. Such as in this bit of dialogue:

STEWIE (keeps turning on canned laughter machine after every line he says)

BRIAN: Where'd you get that thing?

STEWIE: Oh, I got it off the set of "Dharma and Greg".

BRIAN: Really? I'm surprised there's anything left in it.

BRIAN AND STEWIE, to audience: Ooooooh!

I love that kind of thing on FG. The matricide I can do without. I'd really thought FG had outgrown that type of junk. Oh well...

[PowerZord]

Ok, I saw the episode. Brian has gotten dumber and dumber by each episode. And I actually prefered when Stewie fails to hit Lois, because it makes it funnier. The episode gets 3/10

[Old Guy]

The more times I see this episode the more I think its one of my top 5 favorites.