Manga reaches the funnies...

[Beat]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051107/ap_on_re_as/japan_sunday_comics



By YURI KAGEYAMA, AP Business Writer Mon Nov 7, 3:32 PM ET


TOKYO - "Doonesbury" and "Peanuts," make way for "manga." Come January, the Sunday funnies of several major North American newspapers will have doe-eyed women in frilly outfits, effeminate long-haired heroes and other trademark images of the Japanese comic style.

The reason? Newspaper editors want to attract more young readers. A study released earlier this year by the Carnegie Corporation put the age of newspaper readers at 53 and climbing — hardly a recipe for circulation growth.

"We thought if teens and young kids are reading manga, then why don't we get something in the paper that teens want to read?" said John Glynn, vice president at Universal Press Syndicate, which distributes comics and columns globally to newspapers. "Newspapers are being seen as their parents' medium."

The U.S. newspaper debut is a bit of a landmark for manga — a product of Japanese pop culture that has never been quite mainstream in the United States, although it's long been a hit with the younger generation that grew up on Pokemon, Hello Kitty and Japanese animation movies — or "anime" for short.

"This could be something that really explodes," Glynn said in a telephone interview from Kansas City, Missouri. "This is a great way to take a chance and change the landscape and readership of your paper."

Several newspapers that have signed on to carry the two English-language manga strips on Sundays include the Los Angeles Times, Denver Post, Vancouver Sun and Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Martin Fischhoff, assistant managing editor at The Detroit News, which also plans to carry manga, believes it has the potential to be a big hit and draw new readers.

"I know how popular manga and anime are among a young demographic. Go to any bookstore and there are kids swarming around the manga shelves. And by kids I mean everyone from high school into their 30s. There is even a local store devoted to manga paraphernalia, which is always packed," he said in an e-mail. "But this trend clearly hasn't made itself felt in newspaper comic sections."

The larger papers can afford to take risks, Glynn says. But if manga proves a success, others may follow suit.

"The newspapers want the manga more even than we want the newspapers," says Stuart Levy, chief executive of TOKYOPOP Inc., which publishes the cartoon strips that will be carried. "Newspapers are looking for new fresh ways to appeal to young people."

Kirk LaPointe, managing editor of The Vancouver Sun, said manga has drawn a strong following in the Vancouver area, particularly among young readers.

"We want to bring more features that appeal to a younger readership, and many of the comics we carry have an older following," LaPointe said in an e-mail. "We also like the artistic nature of manga and feel it will contribute to the graphical beauty of the paper overall."

Both cartoon strips are by Americans — evidence of how far manga has come in the United States.

"Van Von Hunter," by Ron Kaulfersch and Mike Schwark, is a horror spoof about a warrior and his female sidekick who dress in Gothic-inspired costumes and are on a mission to fight evil.

The quirky "Peach Fuzz" explores conflicting views of reality. It depicts 9-year-old Amanda's desire to become friends with her pet ferret, Peach, who harbors delusions of being a pampered, veil-donning princess.

The manga rage is spreading.

Papercutz, a New York company, bought the rights to The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew mysteries to bring out comic versions inspired by manga. Major bookstores in the United States now devote rows of shelves to manga.

CosmoGirl, the No. 1 teen publication in the United States, began running manga produced by TOKYOPOP in August. And the Harlequin Romance books are coming out in a manga version — something that's already available in Japan.

Manga is more a storytelling style than a genre, spanning the range of novels or movies — including romance, horror, science fiction and comedy. Manga tales also tend to be more psychological and less action-oriented than its U.S. counterparts, such as Marvel's superhero comics.

"Peach Fuzz" co-author Lindsay Cibos says she found manga "deeper and more fulfilling than cartoons on TV."

Cibos, 23, is a self-taught manga artist who has never been to Japan and speaks no Japanese but grew up on the manga classic "Sailor Moon."

Manga stories "touched upon girls issues, emotions and romance, that sort of thing," she said in a telephone interview from Orlando, Florida.

Takashi Nakagawa, executive managing director of Softbank Investment Corp. in Tokyo, a financial backer of TOKYOPOP, says he saw a good opportunity five years ago in the company's attempt to translate manga into English and offer it to the American market.

Founded in 1996, TOKYOPOP has operations in the United States, Japan, Germany and Great Britain, has an annual revenue of about $40 million and sells as many as 10 million books a year, according to Levy, the CEO.

Levy, 38, is a Los Angeles native who came to Japan in 1989 to attend university. He quickly realized manga was hot as a lifestyle statement, touching on fashion and music, in the same way hip hop has defined a cultural attitude.

"Manga is the core of this kind of lifestyle and culture, which is becoming a global trend," he said in his Tokyo office. "I'd tell people Japan is such a creative place, and they would say, 'No, no. no. Japan is not creative. It just copies the West.' And I said, 'That's totally wrong.'"

Levy is now working on a musical film based on manga.

His next project: offering an English-language manga service on the Web that will allow people to view the comics online or download them onto their mobile phones to read on the go.

"This is getting so popular now," said Levy, switching into fluent Japanese and displaying manga on his cell phone screen. "Japan is way ahead of the world in this."

Well, there was Boondocks.

[livingfruitvirus]

Do people who read manga read newspapers?

People still read newspapers?

[Humble]

People still read newspapers?Whats a newspaper? :p

I was wondering when they would jump on the manga bandwagon.

-Humble

[Pupmon 4.0]

People still read newspapers?

I read the newspaper.:shame:


And I hope they were speaking hypotheticly when they said that Peanuts
was making way for manga. I mean, manga is great, I am very fond of manga,
however nothing can take the place of Peanuts.

[Artimus Gigan]

however nothing can take the place of Peanuts.Godannar > Peanuts

[Kenshin5000]

Godannar > Peanuts The decayed, but still very nice corpse of Charles Schultz would like a word with you.

Seriously, I love manga to death, but 99% of it doesn't hold a candle to Peanuts and, say, Calvin and Hobbes.

[Beat]

Godannar > Peanuts
No. Just NO.

Besides, any Godannar manga would inspire controversy the likes of which the Doonsebury creators could only DREAM of.

[Go-chin]

There are so many things wrong with that article that I don't even feel like trying to point them all out.

Mainly this


Manga is more a storytelling style than a genre, spanning the range of novels or movies — including romance, horror, science fiction and comedy. Manga tales also tend to be more psychological and less action-oriented than its U.S. counterparts, such as Marvel's superhero comics. The person who wrote this needs to die.

[Karl Olson]

Manga on a news print page is going to be awkward. An optimistic estimate would be 9 titles per page, and the fact is a lot of newspapers aren't going to want to cut the number of titles per page in half just to get younger readers. Further still, they are picking up OEL Manga titles which really aren't made with newsprint grade printing in mind. In other words, unless Tokyopop is having their artists tone down the print demands of their work for newspapers, this isn't going to work that well, and some pages may look down right ugly (ever see any Koge-Donbo title in the original tankoban magazine? the eyes look like blobs because the print quality of those magazines can't deal with detail in the eyes.) Besides, getting series with serious continuity one page at a time would be annoying at best. You'd get closure every, oh, 13 to 52 weeks, assuming each chapter ended somewhat conclusively. And oh yeah, I'm think Van Von Hunter may need to be brought down a notch content if it's going to run in a newsaper. Peach Fuzz should be ok.

And yes, a lot of the manga that's had the greatest success in the US is vastly too controversial for the comics' page in someways. Fruits Basket and Naruto (the long running champ and the new hot commodity in the manga market) would push a lot more buttons than the political strips that are supposed to be pushing buttons, and the fact is that those two titles are relatively mild. But hey, even if they went with the most kid targetted of manga like Kamichama Karin or Instant Teen - stuff literally aimed at preschoolers and elementary school kids, the content would cause a lot of people (albeit people the paper apparently doesn't care about anymore) to freak out. The experiment might carry in the urban centers, but it's not something that going to radiate out I think, if it works at all, and even if it works, I some how doubt were ever going to open the comics page to something like One Piece or Cardcaptor Sakura, let alone a really serious title.

[Peter Paltridge]

Wow. And when I saw "Level Path" in the Comic Book Culture topic, I figured syndicates had abandoned grabbing a younger generation entirely. There may be hope yet!

[Karl Olson]

Why the newspapers might be taking the syndicates aren't when it comes to younger readers:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=1288792&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

[OverMaster]

The person who wrote this needs to die.
At least he didn't go with the usual "it's all like Dragon Ball Z" approach.

[G1Ravage]

Isn't manga, by American definition, comics that come from Japan?

These two "manga" are made by Americans.

[Ben]

Whats a newspaper? :p

You guys aren't making me feel very good about my career choice. (http://joongangdaily.joins.com) ;)

[Elven Moon]

I used to read the Sunday funnies, but that was years ago. I get all my news from TV or the internet now. Newspapers just get ink all over your hands and are a pain to fold up and flip through, at least for me :sweat:

I'm confused as to how this "manga" thing will work, since they aren't usually in "strips" format.

[Conekiller]

Would Azumanga be to "japanese" for this kind of thing, cuz if one was to choose an established manga to run in US newspapers, that would be my first choice.

[EscaflownePilot]

The person who wrote this needs to die.Are you kidding?!

Do you know how long it's taken people to grasp that manga isn't a "genre that features big-eyed Sailor Moon cat girls and powered-up DBZ fights?". I think describing it as "a style of storytelling" is about the best we could hope for out of these people. No, it's still not a great description, but at least it's a description that people who aren't in the know could read and actually see some integrity in Japanese titles, rather than leave thinking "oh, those kids and their toy-selling Pokeymen". :sweat:

Anyway, they really need to use light-hearted 4-panel gag manga for this kinda' thing... not high continuity American-made titles!

[zmanjz]

Still.... considering how lame most newspaper comics are, it would be nice to see some improvement. I mean My family gets the paper, and I don't really read most of the comics because they're not really interesting.

At the very least, it's a good way to advertize manga and increase sales in the US. (The equivlent of if ADV put their ani-minis in the news paper at no extra charge to the newspaper reader)

[MonkeyFunk]

The person who wrote this needs to die.

...anime fans really, really scare me sometimes.

[Tash]

I'm confused as to how this "manga" thing will work, since they aren't usually in "strips" format.There are a lot of 4-panel manga in Japan, too. (4-Koma?) I think that Azumanga Daioh is the only one that people know of in America. (Or was Crayon Shin-chan one, too? I skimmed through it a few years ago, and I honestly don't remember)

[Ben]

Azumanga Daioh would be an excellent choice. If they want to be really out there, they could get Nono-chan, which is what My Neighbors the Yamadas was based on, but that can get pretty culturally esoteric (and unfunny) at times.

[Conekiller]

Would Kimura sensei pose a potential problem to the genreal public if Azuanga was published ina paper?

[straw_hat]

So how long before current comic strips start bashing anime and manga for intruding on their territory?

[Karl Olson]

Azumanga Daioh would be an excellent choice. If they want to be really out there, they could get Nono-chan, which is what My Neighbors the Yamadas was based on, but that can get pretty culturally esoteric (and unfunny) at times.

A few strips probably couldn't run, but yeah, Azumanga would probably be one of the few manga that'd work well in a US paper. Very low print demands, and generally an general audience comic. Granted, their would still be demands on the part of the news paper to flip it and re-typeset it.


Would Kimura sensei pose a potential problem to the genreal public if Azuanga was published ina paper?

And it's those little bits (like Kimura) of a lot of otherwise clean manga that provide for a lot of problem. I think that's part of why they are going the OEL Manga route - besides the fact you don't have to flip it, you've also got a direct line to the artists so you can get them to adjust their product for the newspaper release, and they'll understand why you need that because they are more likely to get the US social standards too.

[rubberchicken]

A few strips probably couldn't run, but yeah, Azumanga would probably be one of the few manga that'd work well in a US paper. Very low print demands, and generally an general audience comic. Granted, their would still be demands on the part of the news paper to flip it and re-typeset it.



And it's those little bits (like Kimura) of a lot of otherwise clean manga that provide for a lot of problem. I think that's part of why they are going the OEL Manga route - besides the fact you don't have to flip it, you've also got a direct line to the artists so you can get them to adjust their product for the newspaper release, and they'll understand why you need that because they are more likely to get the US social standards too.
You could always claim it's satire. If Calvin and Hobbes could get away with violent and abusive kids (I love C&H, so don't take this the wrong way) I don't see what any other comedy strip could do that's so much more objectionable.

[j32885]

Woot, my 1,500 post! :)

I saw this article on Yahoo! last night, before I was going to bed. I hope the Detroit News and Detroit Free Press pick up some manga soon. Both of these newspapers have ran articles and reviews about anime/manga in recent years. Still good news to here. :cool:

*Reads todays Detroit News*

[Karl Olson]

You could always claim it's satire. If Calvin and Hobbes could get away with violent and abusive kids (I love C&H, so don't take this the wrong way) I don't see what any other comedy strip could do that's so much more objectionable.

True, but even pulling the satire/it's just a joke card limits you to comedy. However, something like Naruto, which actually has gore and weight to the violence between kids, just isn't going to fly on the Funnies/Comics pages. Meanwhile, it's Narutos and Fruits Baskets that newspapers will need to run to get the younger audience. Basically, it's a bit a catch-22. They can run some real manga with real guts and maybe lose their older audience, or they can cheat their way around it and not really see a boost in the younger demographics because they'll know whether they are getting the real deal or not.

[rubberchicken]

True, but even pulling the satire/it's just a joke card limits you to comedy. However, something like Naruto, which actually has gore and weight to the violence between kids, just isn't going to fly on the Funnies/Comics pages. Meanwhile, it's Narutos and Fruits Baskets that newspapers will need to run to get the younger audience. Basically, it's a bit a catch-22. They can run some real manga with real guts and maybe lose their older audience, or they can cheat their way around it and not really see a boost in the younger demographics because they'll know whether they are getting the real deal or not. But newspapers don't run long-running action series with 15-20 page chapters. We have Shonen Jump for that. The closest thing that newspapers get to that would be the old classics like Prince Valiant, Buck Rogers, or *shudder* Mark Trail. Even then, the formatting is utterly different.

And since most of the stuff on the newspaper comics pages is comedy (or is at least intended to be,) it's not such a big stretch that they would lean towards comedy manga. I mean, Azumanga Daioh practically screams newspaper syndication with its four-panel format. Seriously, the first time I opened up a volume of Azumanga my immediate impression was that it looked like Peanuts.

[Karl Olson]

And like I said earlier, would be Azumanga would be one of the few manga that'd work well on the comic page.

However, instead Tokyopop will be running EOL manga page at time. In other words, stuff thats 15-30 pages per chapter anyway. Basically, I don't like how this foray is being handled, but I think they'd atleast be better off with actual Japanese content, though with the exception of Azumanga, Japanese content isn't going to work either for a lot of the same reasons as EOL stuff, plus a few more (needs flipping, to out there even when the original target audience in Japan was little kids.) So as it stands, it's a flop all the way around. Unless ADV gets in an syndicates Azumanga, which they probably don't have the rights to do, but really, it's only manga currently in America I can see working on the comics page.

[j32885]

Oops Sorry, about announceing my 1,500 post, that's really my mistake. That one was really my 1,460 post. This latest posting into brings my total now to 1,461. Once again sorry for getting this thread off topic.

Back on target.

Here's my question. How much space would a manga need in a newspaper? :confused:

I know that most regular American newspaper comics are less than a page.

[Space Chief]

Well then, maybe my paper will finally replace Tiger.

[Killtacular]

But they're not running manga, they're running American comics. :confused:

[Karl Olson]

But they're not running manga, they're running American comics. :confused:

Well, considering that some of the US comic titles that look like manga are doing comparably to some of their Japanese counterparts, Tokyopop's little "Original English Language - OEL" manga terminology, and since they don't look like most US comics, it's getting called manga. Besides, to run real manga, it'd need to be flipped and even some of the tamer titles would need editing. That would probably be less appealing than OEL titles that didn't need the rework to a lot of manga readers, they so aren't going to run real manga any time soon. Not until people like you and I are in their 30s at the earliest, if ever.

In a sense, you're right though. The stuff that is going to be printed is as manga as Megatokyo, and MT isn't a manga at all (by Fred's own declaration/admission.) Btw, Megatokyo, emoangst aside, would probably strip better than a lot of the other OEL Manga titles because at Megatokyo tries to write around end of strip punchlines as much continuity. But that's in Dark Horse's stable, not T-Pop's.


BTW, to those wondering about the space concern, I figure if you could probably get 9 titles jammed on to each page of a standard US paper. Considering some papers jam up to a dozen and half strips or more per page, I've got a feeling that even if this works, they aren't going to want to drop 4-10 strips to get 2 manga series running.

[Prism]

Well comicstrips and manga both are serialized with a strict deadline to meet. For the most part cartoonists have to come up with enough material for 6 dailies and one Sunday every week while mangaka crank out 15 pages weekly so it isn't the deadline problem. And most manga magazines use newspaper print anyway. As for the content problem, there's manga out there that'd be suitable for newspapers and perhaps some syndicates are willing to take risks and loosen up guidelines. And while there are very few actual Japanese comicstrips, the ones around are successful and longrunning. And if it'd work, well Spirit was a newspaper mini comicbook so it's possible. Providing that newspapers are willing to provide the panel space of course.

[Karl Olson]

But, the project as listed is going to be in Sunday newspapers only (theoretically negating the panel space issue for the most part,) meaning that 15 pages are going strung out over 15 weeks. Meanwhile, even the manga "strips" would need to be flipped to be "read" by anyone other than mangaphiles, but then mangaphiles would probably take issue with tampering with the art (the japanese artist might too depending on the artist.)

As far as loosening standards on the funny pages, I doubt it. If they aren't going to it for McGruder, they aren't going to do it for anyone else.

[Beat]

As far as loosening standards on the funny pages, I doubt it. If they aren't going to it for McGruder, they aren't going to do it for anyone else.
And isn't that why newspaper comic strips are failing?

[Tash]

However, instead Tokyopop will be running EOL manga page at time. In other words, stuff thats 15-30 pages per chapter anyway. Basically, I don't like how this foray is being handled, but I think they'd atleast be better off with actual Japanese content, though with the exception of Azumanga, Japanese content isn't going to work either for a lot of the same reasons as EOL stuff, plus a few more (needs flipping, to out there even when the original target audience in Japan was little kids.) So as it stands, it's a flop all the way around. Unless ADV gets in an syndicates Azumanga, which they probably don't have the rights to do, but really, it's only manga currently in America I can see working on the comics page.
It wouldn't be too hard to licence another one. There are a LOT of 4-Panel manga in Japan, and most of them are pretty tame. (Then again, they never get brought stateside... Except Azumanga, but it was already popular due to fansubs of the anime.)

The 4-Panel manga is a untapped resource.

[Karl Olson]

And isn't that why newspaper comic strips are failing?

Yeah, but whether they are really willing to give the AARP set the finger on the off chance that it might grab the much sought-after 18-34 remains to be seen.


It wouldn't be too hard to licence another one. There are a LOT of 4-Panel manga in Japan, and most of them are pretty tame. (Then again, they never get brought stateside... Except Azumanga, but it was already popular due to fansubs of the anime.)

The 4-Panel manga is a untapped resource.

But, even four panels need flipping, and it seems the newspapers are trying to use existing content that needs little work and no new licencing. In other words, sure if they wanted to do the job properly, they (and by they I mean not only TPOP and ADV but the big American comics syndicates) would go after the 4 panels that run in mags ranging from Cheese and Nakayosi to Dengeki Daioh and Shonen Ace, and then run 'em flipped in the papers. However, they are being cheap and lazy. I can't blame them, but I won't praise 'em either.

[Pc-Famicom64]

About The Peanuts Manga:I Just hope ther have the same look as ther do The the USA Vergin just like The T.M.N.T's wer in That T.M.N.T Anime .

[Bunai]

i agree with a previous poster. i like some japanese comics, but when i get right down to reading...Peanuts definetly stands over many of them. i think a lot of adults like the Peanuts because some of the characters tend to act very adult.

:crying: i wish people would look pass "all American comicbooks are Marvel and DC and only superheros" and actually bother LOOKING at the variety American and Canadian comicbooks have. sometimes it feels like i'm the only one seeing the diversity of todays comics.

there are many Japanese 4panels that would do well in a paper.
many papers around the US have different comicstrips, demographic aims, and contant.

[G1Ravage]

How was Azumanga Daioh published in Japan? In a newspaper by panel? Or are the panels just a preference style, and it was published in a weekly comic book publication thing a la Shonen Jump, "month-by-month" in story?

[Artimus Gigan]

i agree with a previous poster. i like some japanese comics, but when i get right down to reading...Peanuts definetly stands over many of them. i think a lot of adults like the Peanuts because some of the characters tend to act very adult.
I don't think so

1st year of Peanuts was way more adult oriented than the better known version. It also showed that CS has a twisted sense of humor which what was lacking from all the later incarnations of the Peanuts. He had to make it more family oriented to get a wider audiance.

Snoopy's first appearance was just a 4 panel strip of him crapping on the rug and then eating his own excrement.

[g_UnIt_GaNsTa]

Why did I read this title as "Manga reaches the furries"?

[Nin-Nin69]

You think Azumanga Daioh or Doraemon would fit better than that garbage. Pushing something like Doraemon would be a huge step for the US auidence.

Also why is Tokyopop in charge? They can't even live up to half of the titles they put out. Is it just because they're trying to be more mainstream than other anime companies and show off their non existant wealth to 4Kids?

[Karl Olson]

How was Azumanga Daioh published in Japan? In a newspaper by panel? Or are the panels just a preference style, and it was published in a weekly comic book publication thing a la Shonen Jump, "month-by-month" in story?

Azumanga Daioh ran in Dengeki Daioh (hence the Daioh,) on a monthly basis, I think running a handle full of strips each month. A lot of 4 panels actually run that way in Japan, so in a sense, why they are easier for newspaper serialization, it wasn't like they originally made for it.

[FlyByNite77]

Hating Girl or School Rumble could work as a comic printed daily/weekly in a newspaper. Hating Girl more-so since it's less continuity based. But both usually have very short chapters.

[Prism]

I think that Azumanga Daioh started off as a yonkoma(vertical 4-panel manga) then became a 15-page manga. Anyway, yonkomas would be perfect for newspapers, they wouldn't take up too much space, are gag based to begin with and much of the humor is visual. Actually I'd love to see yonkomas like Fuu-chan and the like make it in the newspapers. However if they do decide to adapt the larger manga, maybe they are willing to make concessions in space and content. After all comicstrips were pretty racy back in the Golden and Silver Ages, so it'd be like going back to their roots.

[FlyByNite77]

Ah I just thought of the perfect manga. Ichigeki Sacchuu!! Hoihoi-san!
It's comic panels were short and not more then 1 page from the few I saw scanlated.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3310/868hoihoi8ue.gif

[guinaevere]

And isn't that why newspaper comic strips are failing? I have to disagree with Karl on this.

The main reaons newspaper comics are failing is two-fold.
One: Newspaper subscriptions/readership is waaaaaaay down owing to other sources for information and content.
Two: One can have very high standards and strict rules and still maintain a humerous, informative and/or entertaining product. Unfortunately, like much of what comes out of our television and movie screens, much of what is currently produced isn't worth the audiences' time. Shock value doesn't equal quality. And the majority of todays comic strips are simply put, not funny nor entertaining.

After the uproar a few months back (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=148729), I'm surprized there isn't an big snit about stereotyping in the first paragraph of the article:
Come January, the Sunday funnies of several major North American newspapers will have doe-eyed women in frilly outfits, effeminate long-haired heroes and other trademark images of the Japanese comic style.

[Zechs]

What worries me is what they will pick in the future. Right now it's American comics done in manga style. When will they put a real manga in the funnies? Also with the lack of family friendly titles what will they choose. Not to mention the fact that most manga aren't made to fit the american comic panel form. With all this I'm thinking this will go over like a lead balloon. But I could be wrong. I just hope that they don't pick a title that they will have to pick apart just to run it.

[MonkeyFunk]

Me, I'm just kind of bothered about the concept of a Hardy Boys manga.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1893842010.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

There needs to be a comic based on this.

[Pc-Famicom64]

Why Can't The Japanese Put Something People fome The USA will like more,Like a Bevais and Butt-Head Anime/Manga , Bevais and Butt-Head will Stell look The Same as you no and Love/Hate Them but Ther will be alot of Anime Chicks in it, Now dose that Sound better Then a Peanuts Anime/Manga ?

^_^

[G1Ravage]

As far as loosening standards on the funny pages, I doubt it. If they aren't going to it for McGruder, they aren't going to do it for anyone else.
I've heard of newspapers in "small-town" areas (i.e. everywhere that's not New York City) choosing not to publish certain comic strips due to content. Boondocks would be one. Doonesbury would be another. I've even heard of some areas choosing not to publish Pearls Before Swine.

The newspapers here in New York City aren't afraid of anything. I'd say the comics section as a whole here would have a G to PG rating. Swearing isn't a problem, and cursing can be written like @#$%, even in a serious way. Heck, it's not all that unusual to sometimes see nudity and somewhat sexual situations that some parents probably wouldn't want their kids to see. Then there's the drinking...

Yeah, I'd say the comics section here is pretty loose.

[LordByronius]

I thought this idea was kind of cool.

Until I read which "manga" titles they're actually running in the paper.

"Van Von Hunter" and "Peach Fuzz."

After all the kind words the people in the article had for comics from Japan, maybe, I dunno, THEY COULD PICK SOME MANGA THAT WAS ACTUALLY JAPANESE.

[Artimus Gigan]

I thought this idea was kind of cool.

Until I read which "manga" titles they're actually running in the paper.

"Van Von Hunter" and "Peach Fuzz."

After all the kind words the people in the article had for comics from Japan, maybe, I dunno, THEY COULD PICK SOME MANGA THAT WAS ACTUALLY JAPANESE.Meh Last Hope is pretty good and that's an Ameri-manga

[Karl Olson]

I thought this idea was kind of cool.

Until I read which "manga" titles they're actually running in the paper.

"Van Von Hunter" and "Peach Fuzz."

After all the kind words the people in the article had for comics from Japan, maybe, I dunno, THEY COULD PICK SOME MANGA THAT WAS ACTUALLY JAPANESE.


Read the thread for a plethora of reasons why a lot of Japanese content, perhaps all, wouldn't be that great for newspaper serialization (it starts with having to flip and retype set things, and it goes from there.)

[Artimus Gigan]

I'd want that new Evangelion Manga serialised in a regular news paper

[Karl Olson]

I'd want that new Evangelion Manga serialised in a regular news paper

The girlfriend of steel-based one? Well, if it weren't for the fact that I've heard it gets fanservicey and it's already running in Newtype, I could see ADV pushing it because it'd tie in with the CN airing and it'd help gage a response for the Eva film project that's currently in limbo. However, you've still got to flip it (which would tick a number of anime fans and maybe the original author too,) retype set it (a pain in the can and it's an additional cost.) However, it's gag oriented enough that it'd be easier to serialize than oh, Bleach or Naruto.

[Duke]

retype set it (a pain in the can and it's an additional cost.) I'm sure the newspapers wouldn't mind if ADV did it themselves. They could just get their manga division to do it.

[Karl Olson]

I'm sure the newspapers wouldn't mind if ADV did it themselves. They could just get their manga division to do it.

Yeah, but ADV might not want to spend that time and money (they already seem a bit strapped in their manga/manwha division as it stands for staff.) Tokyopop's obviously looking to dodge that cost by using their EOL/Amerimanga titles. Basically, even though newspaper would gladly hand that responsibility off, the publishers may not be interested in spending double the time in the typesetting stage to produce two versions.

[PowerZord]

Snoopy in Manga version? I can imagine this:

"Get off the rug, Snoopy-kun!"

[Snoopy ignores]

"Baka!!"

[Charlie kicks him.]



Anyway is this a new "Business" tactic or something?

[Pc-Famicom64]

Snoopy in Manga version? I can imagine this:

"Get off the rug, Snoopy-San!"

[Snoopy ignores]

"You Fat Stupid Baka!!"

[Charlie Bonwn-Cun kicks him.]



Anyway is this a new "Business" tactic or something?I Think you Mine This.

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