Miguzi Talkback: Code Lyoko [10/31 - 11/1]

[Red]

Sorry it's late, although next time just make the talkback, don't flood the old one.

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When a group of students discover the existence of a mysterious parallel universe called Lyoko, they encounter a supercomputer that threatens the future of our world!

Episode Titles:
Monday - "Franz Hopper"
Tuesday - "Is Anybody Out There?"

And then it goes into reruns which you will discuss in the fan club.

Happy Hallllllllllllllloween and Lets Begin!

[solarflere]

I am reposting this.
As promiced I recorded the episode, but I don't have any Ideas for amy pictures to post. So I will be taking requests. Post here what snapshots you want. Max is 20. And I will post them later today or tomorow.

[Lady Nasuada]

jeez that scared me how the thread just closed like that.


i want a pic of hopper/xana, one of boxing odd, and one of aelita on a laptop.
reasons:
for my files
for my part of me that likes odds oddness
aelita is rarely seen with techno and since she was virtual i think there should be more

and for all i want to send it to my pals to show them

happy halloween although i am cold wet and feel like im gonna barf

[Mad Mod 49]

Great Jeremie episode, and seeing XANA make a body for himself rather than possess one was awesome.

EDIT: Interesting...I looked back and saw that the real order of episodes after Marabounta was:

Common Interest
Temptation
A Bad Turn
Attack of the Zombies
Ultimatum
A Fine Mess
XANA's Kiss
Vertigo
Cold War
Deja Vu
Tip Top Shape
Is Anybody Out There?
Franz Hopper
Contact
Revelation
The Key

The Cartoon Network schedule says that next episode is "Is Anybody Out There?" (the one before "Franz Hopper"...out of order again!:mad: ) But then it replays "Marabounta", then "Common Interest", then the never-before-aired "Temptation" and then it seems to re-run the episodes in proper order! ("A Bad Turn", "Attack of the Zombies", "Ultimatum", etc.) I'm guessing that once it gets back up to "Franz Hopper", it will then air the final three episodes of the season "Contact", "Revelation", and "The Key". :cool:

[Gokou Ruri]

Franz on Lyoko? I'm guessing that's revealed in "Is Anybody Out There?" since this episode was aired before it. Anyway, this was an awesome episode. Yumi getting angry at Jeremie was so horrible, but I could understand why she would be so angry and scared with her life in danger (since they said cell degeneration, I'm thinking that Yumi might have be infected with cancer or even a tumor.) Good thing it was only a trick, though.

9/10

[k-day42]

The Cartoon Network schedule says that next episode is "Is Anybody Out There?" (the one before "Franz Hopper"...out of order again!:mad: ) But then it replays "Marabounta", then "Common Interest", then the never-before-aired "Temptation" and then it seems to re-run the episodes in proper order! ("A Bad Turn", "Attack of the Zombies", "Ultimatum", etc.) I'm guessing that once it gets back up to "Franz Hopper", it will then air the final three episodes of the season "Contact", "Revelation", and "The Key". :cool:
What a was to screw up the schedule!!!

Anyway.........great episode!
I found it hard to believe that was the real Franz Hopper.....way too convient...and very good timing, too...but something in me wished he was the real thing.
If your cells were deteriorating, wouldn't you be feeling those side effects a LONG TIME AGO???!!! After all those times at Lyoko??!!! They were overacting about that, but XANA had them wrapped around his finger the whole time.......
Jeremy saved the day, Yay!!!!!! He can do stuff.......now all he has to do is get the guys' weapons upgraded to awesome potential like XANA did, and we're all set!!!!!

[LordTerminal]

Well since you asked so nicely flere, a nice big hi-quality (or as close as you can get) shot of the drawing Odd made would be good wallpaper for the desktop.

[Kagetsu]

If your cells were deteriorating, wouldn't you be feeling those side effects a LONG TIME AGO???!!! After all those times at Lyoko??!!! They were overacting about that, but XANA had them wrapped around his finger the whole time.......

I noticed XANA chose Yumi to tell the story about the deterioration. It seemed to especially dislike Yumi in season one, and doesn't seem to have changed its opinion.

[solarflere]

I noticed XANA chose Yumi to tell the story about the deterioration. It seemed to especially dislike Yumi in season one, and doesn't seem to have changed its opinion.You mean "Pick On Yumi" week don't you.:D Yep, everyone thats what wee called that week of episodes where Yumi was the prime target of XANA.
And here are the pictures:
Franz Hopper/XANA (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Solarflere/IMG_0764.jpg)
Odd Boxing 1 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Solarflere/IMG_0762.jpg) sorry for the bad quality. it was an in motion shot, was dificult.
Odd boxing 2 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Solarflere/IMG_0761.jpg) Same here in motion pic
Aelita with Laptop (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Solarflere/IMG_0760.jpg)
Siphazoa spazing out (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Solarflere/IMG_0759.jpg)
Decoy Aelita falls (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Solarflere/IMG_0755.jpg)
Odd's picture (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Solarflere/IMG_07662.jpg) The best I could with the time i had. :sweat:

[Strollymonster]

My repost...

I'm a Jeremy fan, so I loved this episode.

-Franz Hopper reappears, or so it would seem. And he knows how to shut down towers without virtualization! THAT would be a handy trick for Jeremy, but it would kill the series if they never went to Lyoko.

-And it's Jeremy's birthday, hurray! The drawing was pretty nice, and it was a good excuse to introduce Jeremy's dad.

-They never really went and said what exactly happened to Yumi, only that it involved cellular degeneration and her head...(which is probably not a good combination)

-I was a bit angry at Yumi for blaming Jeremy, since no one made her get in the scanners in the first place, and he had no idea of potential dangers. Then again, if she thought she was dying, it might be a reasonable response.

-Franz totally launches into Jeremy with a lot of accusations and turns everyone against him, saying that he's guilty of "playing the sorcerer's apprentice." I'm sure that some of the things he accused Jeremy of are deep fears that probably keep Jeremy up at night, and that's why they hurt.

-I was more than a little disappointed that none of the others came to Jeremy's defense except for Aelita...the poor guy was depressed enough to leave the academy behind.

-Those new weapons were SWEET. I hope that Jeremy will figure out something like that for the upcoming season...I'd love to see some weapon and vehicle upgrades.

-And, of course, Hopper is XANA. If Jeremy hadn't figured that out...well, then everyone else in the group would be dead. Sweet move with the decoy Aelita.

-It's not Code Lyoko unless there's a "ticking clock", so let's have Jeremy get strangled from within...and then have Aelita do a pretty awesome trick by jumping off the Manta and diving into the tower.

Overall, an excellent episode, and one of my top 5 favorites for Code Lyoko.

[Freedom Fighter]

*head hurts after watching this episode*

There was a lot going on in "Franz Hopper"... a bunch of questions thrown out, and surprisingly, most of them answered by episode's end.

First off... right from the start, I guessed that it was way too convenient for Franz Hopper to be at the Factory (but I couldn't figure out if this was an entity made by XANA or it was the real Franz, possessed by XANA).

Franz/XANA was very convincing. Revealing information about the origins of Aelita and the supercomputer. And telling them of possible health risks that could develop from using the scanners. Both I was really believing were true.

And then Jeremie found out this Franz was a fake. Hmmm... I'm stupified I missed the 'you destroyed my diary' clue.

So... the health risks of using a scanner. Well, we know that the whole thing is powered nuclearly... there could be a slim chance that could be hazardous to the kids' well-being. That's unlikely, though, since that might be a concern one of them could've easily pointed out a long time ago. There's nothing else I can think of, well, other that the whole materialization process itself, which splits their atoms/molecules. Even then, though Jeremie's a genius, the fact that he doesn't know everything about Lyoko makes it easy to reason that he doesn't understand everything about the supercomputer and the scanners. So the others would not have any substantial health risks that they could press against Jeremie that he might have expected. Aside from the materialization process, once again. So... Yumi (and Ulrich) getting quite upset over the 'danger' was unnecessary, and they kind of jumped to conclusions. But that also proves XANA's very convincing.

Based on that, I'm also weary of XANA telling Aelita so easily that she is Lyoko's guardian and that Lyoko was a counter-military project. Now we all know computers do not have the capability of spitting out information that is the opposite of what was put in. The only way a computer can tell a lie is if the information put in is not the truth to begin with. Also note though that XANA's not your ordinary computer... see above paragraph. Which means he may be capable of telling lies. On that note... I'm not convinced what he told Aelita is true. I'm not saying it can't be... I'm just not persuaded that it is.

Two more red flags... Franz immediately teleporting the gang into Sector 5, and the super-weapons they got for usage there. You could chalk it up to 'It's Franz Hopper, he knows everything about Lyoko.' But once again... it just seemed way too convenient. And I was right.

But this does lead to some of the best and intense moments of the series to date. With no weapons, Odd was forced to fight the Creepers hand-to-hand, via boxing (with ringside bells, apparently, which made the scene unintentionally funny). Jeremie and Aelita duping XANA into believing it was draining her memories when in fact it was draining a decoy. And XANA trying to suffocate Jeremie gives us one of the best 'hold breath in suspense' moments of the show, right on par with Yumi getting buried under a tree in "Cold War."

Some really great moments in this one, so I have to give "Franz Hopper" an 8.5 out of 10.

[solarflere]

But I realy think the part about Aelita being the guardian of Lyoko and created by Franz Hopper, and Lyoko being a military project is true. There was no reason for it not to be.

Edit: I know why Jeremy said Franz Hopper was in Lyoko. In order for XANA to make such a convinsing replica if Franz, it would have to study the real thing for quite some time. And where is a better place to keep someone hostage without anyone finding out? Lyoko of cource. Franz Hopper must be in sector 5 somewhere. That is why XANA puts up a fierce fight every time the gang goes there. It is afraid that they might find him accidently in his data. That is why sector 5 is so complicated, and a puzzle, that is always changing. Because its also a prisson.

[Code_Lyoko]

Although I didn't see the begininng of this episode, it still rates VERY high on my scale. XANA probaly didn't know that Jeremy hid the diary files on the supercomputer. That's mabye why he figured that out faster.That move with the decoy of Aelita was awsome! Did the skipazoa get all of the memory? If thats the case, then they might of put a thing in the memory to make it go CRAZY! (:eek:+:confused:= ?) This episode was really planned out. I really liked it. I don't have anything to say. And I didn't say anything about Tip-Top shape. That episode was AMAZING! Really! But I still have nothing to say.

[solarflere]

Xana Makes a poltergeist and the super scan does not show an activated tower, interesting. Sissy thinks she has psychic powers. And i thought she was gonna saduce Ulrich in the boiler room. But a pentogram, that was unexpected.
wearing pijamas in the suwers.
Oh no, they were too late and no activated tower yet. I always wondered what would happan if the time ran out, now we will find out.

[Nobody²]

Damn I wanted aliens, but a ghost would do...XD

Good Guys win at the end

I got bored....

[solarflere]

Tarantula wiped each the other out. Yumi dematerialized in sector 5. Odd was just in time to enter scepio. Wow, that was close, the only encounter with skiphazoa and no brain suction. So was that last shcene just the wind or is there realy is a ghost or XANA made a quick comeback?

[Mad Mod 49]

-OK, Sissy and her gang have officially creeped me out.

-Nicholas and Herve get detention for telling the truth. Ouch! But Jim soon realizes his mistake once the ghost comes after him!

-More Sissy/Odd references (Sissy: Odd, I'm scared. Can I sit close to you? Odd: Sure, I'll just go to sleep and the sooner the nightmare can be over!)

-Geez, this plan is nearly fool-proof! The ghost won't die!

-After much chaos and mishaps, Aelita saves the day by sliding into the tower. :cool:

-Odd and Ulrich trick Sissy, leave the room laughing, and...Holy smokes, THE REAL LEON'S GHOST! :eek:

Pretty spooky episode and this one is #48 so it comes before #49 "Franz Hopper". Taking this into account, this episode should have aired yesterday on Halloween, it would have better fit the spirit!

[Nobody²]

Pretty spooky episode and this one is #48 so it comes before #49 "Franz Hopper". Taking this into account, this episode should have aired yesterday on Halloween, it would have better fit the spirit!

CN can be dumb sometimes....

Could "The Key" be the reference to Carthage or to Aelita...

and this schedule can drive anyone crazy

[solarflere]

CN can be dumb sometimes....

Could "The Key" be the reference to Carthage or to Aelita...

and this schedule can drive anyone crazyYou guys are driving yourselvs crazy, not the schedule. Can't you just go with the flow and ignore the episode numbers completely. its not like CN is dumb enough to show episodes out of sequence (like the second final episode and then the first). They must have good reason to show them in this order, and they are not obligated to us to tell us that reason. The fact is, they will show all the episodes in this season, reruns or no reruns. So relax, sit back and watch the show.

[yumi&raven4eva]

Oh, well. I LIKE to see all the episodes over again.

Although it really ticks me off when they mess with the sched. Like, MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!!!!! :mad:

The Ghost was kinda cool this time, but it's getting cliche at this point. It looked like a monster. :sweat:

8 out of 10. Good, as usual, but they've done better.

[Lady Nasuada]

*ultra mega scream of agony*

the stupid thing that tapes cl when i tell it to has really gotten on my nerves. a few days ago it only taped the first half of the show and today every five seconds it skipped five minutes of the show.

please tell me about it...

i sort of got that ulrich was in a pentogram w/ sissi herve and nicolas but then it skipped... odd was fighting tarantulas in the ice sector, aelita going gr in the ice sector and sliding into the tower... that something was funky w/ the super scan... and the ghost got jeremy then ulrich... ulrich leaves himself totally unprotected when he swings the sword up, its just stupid hes peen for way too long for comfort, and why would ulrich go into anywhere w/ sissi? eck... AND THEN JEREMY WAS SO DUMD AS TO RTTP!

PLEASE HELP ME COMPATRIOTS! TELL ME THE STORY!

[narutowarrior24]

I had absolutley no clue Odd ( and possibly the others) can go through de- activated tower ( to get to other sectors, maybe?)....I learn something new every episode!!

[solarflere]

I had absolutley no clue Odd ( and possibly the others) can go through de- activated tower ( to get to other sectors, maybe?)....I learn something new every episode!!Thats nothing new. They have done it begining with Yumi and her Overwing a lot this season. And Aelita has done it all the time from season one.

[Gokou Ruri]

Average episode that should have been aired before Franz Hopper. Though I must say seeing Yumi's arm fall off was pretty nasty. :sweat:

[solarflere]

Average episode that should have been aired before Franz Hopper. Though I must say seeing Yumi's arm fall off was pretty nasty. :sweat:Her arm didn't fall off, it was dematerialized when she was crushed.

[Gokou Ruri]

Well, her arm sticking out of the wall after she was crushed then.

[solarflere]

Well, her arm sticking out of the wall after she was crushed then.I gotta agree with you on that though, it was guresone. SHe almost made it when she was crushed. Just like Odd got crushed in sector 5 after he sniped the skiphazoa (that was XANA revange).

[Shadow_Wolf75]

On "Franz Hopper":
Xana was really convincing to the kids, but he didn't have me fooled for a second. Maybe right at the start it could've gone either way, but once he started seperating Jeremy from the rest of the group, all bets were off.

And speaking of seperating Jeremy from the group, who else almost wanted Xana to win because of Yumi and Ulrich's lousy behavior towards their friend? When Jeremy called his dad back about that other school I was thinking, 'Yeah, some friends they are, leaving them at Xana's mercy would be fitting punishment . . .http://www.forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/evil3.gif' I don't like Yumi and Ulrich that much to begin with due to their relationship issues, and this certainly didn't help me like them any more.

On "Is Anybody out there?":
Ugh, we haven't seen a lame filler episode in a while, I guess the writers decided it was time to do another one. Give us more plot, dammit!!

[solarflere]

On "Franz Hopper":
Xana was really convincing to the kids, but he didn't have me fooled for a second. Maybe right at the start it could've gone either way, but once he started seperating Jeremy from the rest of the group, all bets were off.

And speaking of seperating Jeremy from the group, who else almost wanted Xana to win because of Yumi and Ulrich's lousy behavior towards their friend? When Jeremy called his dad back about that other school I was thinking, 'Yeah, some friends they are, leaving them at Xana's mercy would be fitting punishment . . .http://www.forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/evil3.gif' I don't like Yumi and Ulrich that much to begin with due to their relationship issues, and this certainly didn't help me like them any more.
If you just found out that you are going to die soon, and your best friend is directly responsible and the only excuse he can offer is his ignorance, I would be realy pissed and never see that person again. Whoud't you?

[silvanoir]

I didn't like the first season of this show too much because it was repetitive and the worlds were sort of boring, but the second season has been really good... a little bit revealed each ep, varying moves, and character development... I also like that they don;t "return to the past" every ep like they used to (it seemed like a cop out).

I thought it was strange how Hopper just showed up out of the blue like that, figures he wasn't real. Fast faced episode with a lot of information... I'm glad the show doesn't end like that, and Yumi's health is fine.

On the ghost episode, seems like Xana gets trickier each time, this time with making the tower invisible to their computer. I thought something more dramatic would happen if they ran out of time, like all the rooms would implode. Good save by Aelita. And I don't want someone like Sissi messing with the dark arts.

[solarflere]

I didn't like the first season of this show too much because it was repetitive and the worlds were sort of boring, but the second season has been really good... a little bit revealed each ep, varying moves, and character development... I also like that they don;t "return to the past" every ep like they used to (it seemed like a cop out).

I thought it was strange how Hopper just showed up out of the blue like that, figures he wasn't real. Fast faced episode with a lot of information... I'm glad the show doesn't end like that, and Yumi's health is fine.

On the ghost episode, seems like Xana gets trickier each time, this time with making the tower invisible to their computer. I thought something more dramatic would happen if they ran out of time, like all the rooms would implode. Good save by Aelita. And I don't want someone like Sissi messing with the dark arts.XANA didn't make the tower invisible, he messed up the super scanner, and since they didn't get a chance to fix it in sector 5, its RTTP time. Its the only way to get the scanner back online.

[sag_2002]

Heh, Yumi getting her arm taken off is not nearly as embarrasing as Odd getting squashed last week.

[solarflere]

Heh, Yumi getting her arm taken off is not nearly as embarrasing as Odd getting squashed last week.It wasn't embarasing, she also got squashed, the only diference, odd never had a chance, while she was 2 seaconds too late to save herself, and that makes all the diference to me. it gives it more meaning when there is a mortal struggle to stay alive but not being able to do so.

[MickeyMouseFan]

I thought Hopper was dead!

Is XANA really Franz Hopper??

[Freedom Fighter]

But I realy think the part about Aelita being the guardian of Lyoko and created by Franz Hopper, and Lyoko being a military project is true. There was no reason for it not to be.I'm not saying it can't be true... it's just because of nature and circumstances, I'm just not believing it is. Yet.


Pretty spooky episode and this one is #48 so it comes before #49 "Franz Hopper". Taking this into account, this episode should have aired yesterday on Halloween, it would have better fit the spirit!It would have fit better on Halloween considering it had ghosts in it.

Still, this show is more than episodic enough that showing certain episodes out-of-order isn't that bad. We saw when 39 aired last week, we hadn't missed anything in continuity. Same with the 48 today airing after 49. And most likely, the same when 38 airs next week.

If anything, the fact that the episode numbers are now included in the episode title screens have made us more conscious of the fact that CN is skipping around. We had the same confusion of what episodes belonged where back in Season One, when numbers weren't listed. Back when there was very little info to go on, there was debate on what the exact order was (i.e., that the US airings were out of order compared to the European listings). But we saw last season, the final three aired last, as expected, and this season, the first five, all major plot-movers, aired first. So there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Unless 38 airs after 50-52 and does have some plot point worth grumbling about, then you can start hooting and hollering.

On to today's episode (48), which starts like this... the clock I was looking at was several minutes behind, so I didn't tune in until right at the end of the first act, when Jim was telling the kids in the dorms not to go upstairs... or downstairs... or something? What was he talking about, and did I miss anything else important prior to that?

Sigh... it won't matter much either way, though. This was a very dull episode. Most likely the worst this season.

You can sing the episode's few praises all you want... all involving Yumi and Aelita in Sector 5, not hitting the button in time, rushing to escape, Yumi getting crushed (even more shocking than Odd suffering the same fate last week). But all in the last act, and if you have to wait 'til the final few minutes to throw out something interesting, you won't have many people sitting through the boring first three-fourths to get to it.

I'll also note Odd's tail being singed (which was new, as opposed to being knocked off his board) or Aelita's long slide into 'home.'

But it's still too far to come back from this episode's dullness, and thus, that makes this the worst episode of the season.

"Is Anybody Out There?" earns only a 6.5 out of 10.

[solarflere]

I thought Hopper was dead!

Is XANA really Franz Hopper??Both statements are falce. There was no indication whether Hopper was alive or not, but now we know know he is onlyoko being captive by XANA. He is not XANA, that was XANA desguised as Franz.

[Shadow_Wolf75]

If you just found out that you are going to die soon, and your best friend is directly responsible and the only excuse he can offer is his ignorance, I would be realy pissed and never see that person again. Whoud't you?
Well first off, who knows if Yumi would've died from it, if it was actually real? And another thing, Jeremy's been sending them over to Lyoko for at least a year and a half now, if anything was wrong, either he would have spotted it or Yumi would've been showing some indications that something was wrong with her. And then this new guy comes along, does amazing things with the supercomputer and suddenly discovers that something's wrong, and Yumi and Ulrich immediately trust the new guy? How screwed up is that? If anything, I'd be immediately suspicious of this new person!

And they all know that Xana's done crap like that to seperate them all before, wouln't this sorta thing be setting off alarm bells in their heads by now? Oy, I don't get the writers' lack of logic here . . .

[Gokou Ruri]

when Jim was telling the kids in the dorms not to go upstairs... or downstairs... or something? What was he talking about, and did I miss anything else important prior to that? All that happened before that was Sissi, Herb, and Nicholas discussing how a builder for the school got buried alive and how his ghost can be heard roaming the boiler room. Then Ulrich gets a note from Sissi to meet her in the boiler room at midnight for an unknown reason. Then Jim just happens to remind everyone that boys going upstairs to the girl's floor and girls going downstairs to the boy's floor are strictly against the rules.

[solarflere]

Well first off, who knows if Yumi would've died from it, if it was actually real? And another thing, Jeremy's been sending them over to Lyoko for at least a year and a half now, if anything was wrong, either he would have spotted it or Yumi would've been showing some indications that something was wrong with her. And then this new guy comes along, does amazing things with the supercomputer and suddenly discovers that something's wrong, and Yumi and Ulrich immediately trust the new guy? How screwed up is that? If anything, I'd be immediately suspicious of this new person!

And they all know that Xana's done crap like that to seperate them all before, wouln't this sorta thing be setting off alarm bells in their heads by now? Oy, I don't get the writers' lack of logic here . . . Thats not the point. We know it was dake. But back then neither we not Yumi know it was. She thought she was going to die. You are talking nonsence now. I said that it was a logicval responce to blame Jeremy because he was responsible. Nothing else matters (even logic) when your own life is on the line. When you are told you are going to die, the world ends then and there. Trust me I know. Besides, as we saw, Jeremy didn't even know about the diagnistic tool, and Cell degenaration doen't happan over night. And the new guy was suppose to be Franz Hopper, ther savior, the one Jeremy praised so much so of cource they would trust him.

[Kagetsu]

Both statements are falce. There was no indication whether Hopper was alive or not, but now we know know he is onlyoko being captive by XANA. He is not XANA, that was XANA desguised as Franz.
We don't really know yet if Franz Hopper is still on Lyoko. I hope not. I like how the kids are on their own with this and don't want an adult, creator or not, getting involved. Having Jeremie and the others trying to save Aeltia and the world at the same time is cool. if season three is about trying to rescue Franz Hopper,,, that will take all the fun out of it. :sad:

[TheGLIVEN]

I thought Hopper was dead!

Is XANA really Franz Hopper??
No, it's just a trap inn ONE episdoe.

[solarflere]

We don't really know yet if Franz Hopper is still on Lyoko. I hope not. I like how the kids are on their own with this and don't want an adult, creator or not, getting involved. Having Jeremie and the others trying to save Aeltia and the world at the same time is cool. if season three is about trying to rescue Franz Hopper,,, that will take all the fun out of it. :sad:I disagree, season one, to save aelita, season teo to save aelita continued (find anti-virus), season three save Franz, season four find the anti-virus for Franz. :D:p:anime: J/K. It would be nice if the gand could rescue him and find the antivirus for Aelita in this season though.

[TheGLIVEN]

I disagree, season one, to save aelita, season teo to save aelita continued (find anti-virus), season three save Franz, season four find the anti-virus for Franz. :D:p:anime: J/K. It would be nice if the gand could rescue him and find the antivirus for Aelita in this season though. I have a feeling that franz isn't on Lyoko. Juts a feeling though.

[Rolling Cloud]

sorry to go off-topic, but does anybody know what all of Jim's jobs were so far? I keep forgetting. :anime:

[solarflere]

V
sorry to go off-topic, but does anybody know what all of Jim's jobs were so far? I keep forgetting. :anime: Salvage Diver
Sewer Worker
Military
Research Specimen Volunteer
So far that is...

[sag_2002]

OT: Hmmm... it looks like we've got Dueling W.I.T.C.H. avs going on here betwixt me and Cloud.

Marabounta: Who would've ever thought XANA and Team Lyoko would team up? Jeremey tries the mad scientist routine and fails miserably, and the obligatory "Nobody likes me" episode, with Ulrich as the target.

As for yesterday, "Is Anyone Out There?" goes in the meh column. A few highlights (The key drama), but nothing special. Of course, after "Franz Hopper", it's forgivable for CL to be off its game just for one episode.

Overall: 6.5 for "Is Anyone Out There?" and 7.5 for "Marabounta".

[yumi&raven4eva]

Now, see, Kagetsu has a point. It's very doubtful that Hopper will come back to Earth and join the team... then they'd have to change the theme song and all the episodes before it would make no sense at all and I really don't think it'll happen. It kind of defeats the purpose of kids doing things on their own (like saving the world and materializing pretty virtual girls and running around virtual forests and going to deadly places and such) if they throw in an ADULT. See my point? :shrug:

My bet is that they'll materialize Hopper at the end of the season, but Xana will launch some major attack, and Hopper will sacrifice himself so they can reach the Factory and save the day. I so see that happening. :p

[Lady Nasuada]

tee hee

this episode is so hilarious

i'm sorry if that seems weird but i was just laughing the whole time.... am i crazy?

well anyways jeremy needs to get a core of steel and not break down and call himself stupid. and although aelita wasnt ultra important in todays ep, she should be thanked for her mad people skills and mad hinting skills. HURRAY AELITA!

i know this will sound retarded, but we should start a WE LOVE XANA SOMETIMES fan club. (this is just something i made up, dont listen now that i think about it it sucks)

um.... oh yeah this ep was pretty lame i thought, nothing really important happened.... does anyone have a exact date for when the new eps are coming? im too lazy to research...:p

[TheGLIVEN]

Now, see, Kagetsu has a point. It's very doubtful that Hopper will come back to Earth and join the team... then they'd have to change the theme song and all the episodes before it would make no sense at all and I really don't think it'll happen. It kind of defeats the purpose of kids doing things on their own (like saving the world and materializing pretty virtual girls and running around virtual forests and going to deadly places and such) if they throw in an ADULT. See my point? :shrug:

My bet is that they'll materialize Hopper at the end of the season, but Xana will launch some major attack, and Hopper will sacrifice himself so they can reach the Factory and save the day. I so see that happening. :pWhen was it decided that Franz was from Lyoko?

[solarflere]

Now, see, Kagetsu has a point. It's very doubtful that Hopper will come back to Earth and join the team... then they'd have to change the theme song and all the episodes before it would make no sense at all and I really don't think it'll happen. Why would that be nsesery?:confused:
The theme song has nothing to do with the caracters, as far as the opening credits go, they have changed from season1 to season 2.


When was it decided that Franz was from Lyoko? Franz Hopper is not from Lyoko, but is in Lyoko for the time being. Jeremy said so himself so there is no need to doubt it.

[yumi&raven4eva]

Well, Franz would obviously be a main character, and the main characters would need to be featured in the theme song graphic. :shrug:

OOOHHH! You thought I meant the music. No, they wouldn't have to change the music, just the graphic. :p

I'm just sayin'. For example, in Season 2 of Teen Titans, you know Terra's not going to permanently join the team because that would require changing the theme song, and all that jazz. And if she wasn't going to stay on the team, then something will have to happen to her. The same goes for Franz Hopper. :D

[solarflere]

Well, Franz would obviously be a main character, and the main characters would need to be featured in the theme song graphic. :shrug:

OOOHHH! You thought I meant the music. No, they wouldn't have to change the music, just the graphic. :p

I'm just sayin'. For example, in Season 2 of Teen Titans, you know Terra's not going to permanently join the team because that would require changing the theme song, and all that jazz. And if she wasn't going to stay on the team, then something will have to happen to her. The same goes for Franz Hopper. :DYou said theme SONG :sweat:. As I said, they changed the graphic from season 1 to season 2, its no big deal. Plus, Franz will not be a Major character, he will probably be a trump card in tough situations.

[Shadow_Wolf75]

Thats not the point. We know it was fake. But back then neither we not Yumi know it was. She thought she was going to die. You are talking nonsence now. I said that it was a logical responce to blame Jeremy because he was responsible. Nothing else matters (even logic) when your own life is on the line. When you are told you are going to die, the world ends then and there. Trust me I know. Besides, as we saw, Jeremy didn't even know about the diagnistic tool, and Cell degenaration doen't happan over night. And the new guy was suppose to be Franz Hopper, ther savior, the one Jeremy praised so much so of cource they would trust him.
:mad: Okay, now YOU'RE talking nonsense. They know SQUAT about Franz Hopper. As far as we know Jeremy hasn't finished decoding his diary/notes, so how are they supposed to know anything about him? Like how are they supposed to know if he'd even be on their side to begin with? And you say Jeremy praised him, when the crap was this?

If it were me, and this Franz Hopper guy suddenly shows up after being gone for gods know how long, and doing things from the console that even Jeremy can't do, I wouldn't trust the guy at all. And that diagnostic tool? Odds are that Xana made it up on the spur of the moment, if Jeremy didn't know it was there.

Apparently the writers want us to think Yumi and Ulrich are idiots, because they're so easily manipulated by Xana. I mean, hello, Xana just tried the divide and conquer technique a couple of eps ago (Xana's Kiss), you'd think they'd remember something like that. They're in the middle of a fricking war, you'd think they would've learned by now that letting their emotions get the better of them equals death.

[Lady Nasuada]

what the heck?

whats wrong with jeremys and odds voices? theyre so high and wimpy...

[solarflere]

:mad: Okay, now YOU'RE talking nonsense. They know SQUAT about Franz Hopper. As far as we know Jeremy hasn't finished decoding his diary/notes, so how are they supposed to know anything about him? Like how are they supposed to know if he'd even be on their side to begin with? And you say Jeremy praised him, when the crap was this?
In marabounta "Remamber, Franz Hopper was a genius". Jeremy himself stated that Franz is still on Lyoko. he studied him and his work for quite some time. he found out that he was a teacher in their school and everything.



If it were me, and this Franz Hopper guy suddenly shows up after being gone for gods know how long, and doing things from the console that even Jeremy can't do, I wouldn't trust the guy at all. And that diagnostic tool? Odds are that Xana made it up on the spur of the moment, if Jeremy didn't know it was there. Of coure he can do what even Jeremy can't do, he created this computer, not jeremy, he would know everything about it. about the diognastic tool, Jeremy used it later on Yumi ans said that there was nothing wrong with her. You need to get your facts straight.


Apparently the writers want us to think Yumi and Ulrich are idiots, because they're so easily manipulated by Xana. I mean, hello, Xana just tried the divide and conquer technique a couple of eps ago (Xana's Kiss), you'd think they'd remember something like that. They're in the middle of a fricking war, you'd think they would've learned by now that letting their emotions get the better of them equals death. Easy for you to say, "before you critisise someone, walk a mile in their shoes" If you was in love with someone, have a rival for that person, have a world to save and other things to do for a person Ulrich's age, you would want to beliave it was the real Franz too. They all have a lot on their plate, they face constant danger and come half past death almost in every episode. They just try to live their lives as normal as possible. Who can blame them?

[Shadow_Wolf75]

In marabounta "Remamber, Franz Hopper was a genius". Jeremy himself stated that Franz is still on Lyoko. he studied him and his work for quite some time. he found out that he was a teacher in their school and everything.

Of coure he can do what even Jeremy can't do, he created this computer, not jeremy, he would know everything about it. about the diognastic tool, Jeremy used it later on Yumi ans said that there was nothing wrong with her. You need to get your facts straight.

Easy for you to say, "before you critisise someone, walk a mile in their shoes" If you was in love with someone, have a rival for that person, have a world to save and other things to do for a person Ulrich's age, you would want to beliave it was the real Franz too. They all have a lot on their plate, they face constant danger and come half past death almost in every episode. They just try to live their lives as normal as possible. Who can blame them?
*twitches at the capitalization and spelling errors* Cripes, if you really want me to take you seriously, learn how to spell, please?

They face constant danger? Well crap, this is my fricking problem. If they're always in so much danger, an evil supercomputer is trying to kill them after all, HOW can they be so trusting of someone who just pops up out of the blue? If they keep being so foolish, then Xana deserves to kick their asses!

You know, I really don't think you're going to get my point anytime soon, so let's just drop it. You think the writers can do no wrong, and I think they're being stupid. Though I guess they do have one thing right, I think most teenagers are stupid, and that's the way they're writing Yumi and Ulrich . . . :p

[solarflere]

*twitches at the capitalization and spelling errors* Cripes, if you really want me to take you seriously, learn how to spell, please?
First, come down, take a deep breath and get some valerian root so calm your nerves.


They face constant danger? Well crap, this is my fricking problem. If they're always in so much danger, an evil supercomputer is trying to kill them after all, HOW can they be so trusting of someone who just pops up out of the blue? If they keep being so foolish, then Xana deserves to kick their asses! Hey get this, THEY ARE KIDS. OH and another thing, ITS A CARTOON for crying out loud, it doesn’t have to make since, I thank the producers for them making it as real as possible.


You know, I really don't think you're going to get my point anytime soon, so let's just drop it. You think the writers can do no wrong, and I think they're being stupid. Though I guess they do have one thing right, I think most teenagers are stupid, and that's the way they're writing Yumi and Ulrich . . . You don't have a point so dropping it would be a good idea for you. Oh and if you can become a script writer, then, and only then will you have enough intelligence to criticize them. And by the way, you are still a teenager yourself, so are you calling yourself stupid? :confused: I rest my case.

[yumi&raven4eva]

Ok, BREAK IT UP, ALREADY! Geez, you two are taking this alot more seriously then you have to. :shrug:

Solarflere, we're all entitled to our own opinion, and FYI: the theme song graphic is still considered part of the theme song. Or, at least it is in my book. :p

Shadow Wolf75, it's no biggie. You can think Yumi and Ulrick our written to be idiots, and we can't do a thing to change your mind, no matter how much we disagree with you. :sweat:

Let's all just sit around and speculate about the other three eps to air, like we're S'POSED TO!!!! No more flaming each other out, please! :mad:

[solarflere]

Ok, BREAK IT UP, ALREADY! Geez, you two are taking this alot more seriously then you have to. :shrug:

Solarflere, we're all entitled to our own opinion, and FYI: the theme song graphic is still considered part of the theme song. Or, at least it is in my book. :p

Shadow Wolf75, it's no biggie. You can think Yumi and Ulrick our written to be idiots, and we can't do a thing to change your mind, no matter how much we disagree with you. :sweat:

Let's all just sit around and speculate about the other three eps to air, like we're S'POSED TO!!!! No more flaming each other out, please! :mad:LOL you were not here when The Crossover Wars hapaned between me and Movie-Brat. :anime: Oh and I wanna read your book, i bet Ill find interesting but mindblowing things in there. Oh and ill end with a quote from my phisics professor 'You are entitled to your wrong opinion." :p

[TheGLIVEN]

LOL you were not here when The Crossover Wars hapaned between me and Movie-Brat. :anime:
The rest of us just watched....with fear.........

[solarflere]

The rest of us just watched....with fear.........Never fear, Solarflere is here.:D I won that war BTW.

[Lady Nasuada]

what war? where is moviebrat anyways?

OMG YOU KILLED THEM! AAAHHHH! SAVE THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN!!!

[Lutochris]

Never fear, Solarflere is here.:D I won that war BTW.
Yes, you did. You're also a 21 year old man bragging about winning an argument with a child about a cartoon. How much of a winner does that really make you?

[solarflere]

Yes, you did. You're also a 21 year old man bragging about winning an argument with a child about a cartoon. How much of a winner does that really make you?Sarcasm 101, you should take that class. untill then, if you don't have anything good to say, don't say it at all.

[yumi&raven4eva]

Speaking of, where IS Moviebrat? He hasn't posted this thing in like, for-EVER!:confused: And what was this fight over? How'd it start? Tell me more!

Whoever your physics professor is, he's wise, but also is eating his words. Think about it. If you figure out what I mean, post it. :anime:

I graduated first in my Sarcasm 101 class! Sacrasm: Just another service I offer. :sweat:

Can't wait to see the new eps! (Actually, I just figured SOMETHING cl should have gone into the post.)

Oh, BTW: They're doing a CL video game for the Nintendo DS. I have one, so--WOOP-DEE-DOOOOO!!! :D :anime: :D

[solarflere]

Speaking of, where IS Moviebrat? He hasn't posted this thing in like, for-EVER!:confused: And what was this fight over? How'd it start? Tell me more!

Whoever your physics professor is, he's wise, but also is eating his words. Think about it. If you figure out what I mean, post it. :anime:

I graduated first in my Sarcasm 101 class! Sacrasm: Just another service I offer. :sweat:

Can't wait to see the new eps! (Actually, I just figured SOMETHING cl should have gone into the post.)

Oh, BTW: They're doing a CL video game for the Nintendo DS. I have one, so--WOOP-DEE-DOOOOO!!! :D :anime: :DYea i havan't seen him in a while here too. He kept on insisting that there will be a crossover between Fantastic Four and Code Lyoko. Annoying the whole board as well. On behalf of everyone's sanity I tried to stop him from discussing that topic further. Eventualy I succeded. He was posting for a while after that and then just stoped.
About my phisics professor, I made him eat some of his words, but it wasn't easy. The score was still 1:1000 in his favor.:sweat:

Oh and I excelled at Sarcasm 101 and did prety good in 202 as well.

[k-day42]

The rest of us just watched....with fear.........
Like the TT episode where Robin and Cyborg were at each others throats.......
I was in a dark corner of my dorm...........screaming...:eek: :eek:

[yumi&raven4eva]

Solarflere: What I MEANT about your professor eating his words is he said, "You are entitled to your wrong opinion," but since most of us think THAT is a wrong opinion, he's eating his own words, 'cause as wrong as it is, he is entitled to it. :D

Oh, and I'm currently an honor student in Sarcasm 303. :anime:

You know, I bet EVERYONE on this thread excels at Sarcasm. :p

But, BTW: Why did this whole business about FF and CL merging cause a BATTLE between a movie brat and a solar flere? Hahaha. A little bit of dry humor there.:)

K-day42: Oh....I remember that one. I was in the same position as the chibi Raven, BB, and Star, when they were cowering from the fight, except I was laying on a couch.

[solarflere]

What I MEANT about your professor eating his words is he said, "You are entitled to your wrong opinion," but since most of us think THAT is a wrong opinion, he's eating his own words, 'cause as wrong as it is, he is entitled to it. :D
I got a headache after that one.:p


Oh, and I'm currently an honor student in Sarcasm 303. :anime: Curently enroled in Sarcasm 505, I am very competative.:cool:


You know, I bet EVERYONE on this thread excels at Sarcasm. images/smilies/tongue.gif True that.


But, BTW: Why did this whole business about FF and CL merging cause a BATTLE between a movie brat and a solar flare? Hahaha. A little bit of dry humor there. He kept saying it will happan, everyone else said otherwise.:sweat: Those were the dark ages.

[k-day42]

What I MEANT about your professor eating his words is he said, "You are entitled to your wrong opinion," but since most of us think THAT is a wrong opinion, he's eating his own words, 'cause as wrong as it is, he is entitled to it. :D

Oh, and I'm currently an honor student in Sarcasm 303. :anime:

You know, I bet EVERYONE on this thread excels at Sarcasm. :p

But, BTW: Why did this whole business about FF and CL merging cause a BATTLE between a movie brat and a solar flare? Hahaha. A little bit of dry humor there.:)
Something about the company that makes the FF toys are also gonna make CL toys, too.................and it led to that certain, scarry discussion...

[yumi&raven4eva]

Well, that doesn't mean they're going to MERGE! :confused: He must be sulking.

Okay, you know what, let's just say that we all offer Sarcasm at random times, but let's drop the classes thing. It's getting old.

Whaddaya think "Temptation" will be about? I have to wonder. It'll probably be a Yumi/Ulrick plot. OR a Jeremie/Aelita plot. Or it could be like "Xana's Kiss". Any speculation, people?

[solarflere]

Well, that doesn't mean they're going to MERGE! :confused: He must be sulking.

Okay, you know what, let's just say that we all offer Sarcasm at random times, but let's drop the classes thing. It's getting old.

Whaddaya think "Temptation" will be about? I have to wonder. It'll probably be a Yumi/Ulrick plot. OR a Jeremie/Aelita plot. Or it could be like "Xana's Kiss". Any speculation, people?As most of our guesses based on episode title have been false, I am not touching that one with a 10 foot pole. But I hope that the last two episodes will have one story line. Meaning that second to last episode will end in a clifhanger and with a To Be Continued... sign.

[Lady Nasuada]

nuh uh!
no way am i good at sarcasm! no way on EARTH! (this is sarcasm)

[solarflere]

nuh uh!
no way am i good at sarcasm! no way on EARTH! (this is sarcasm)Yup, you are right, you are bad at it.:anime:

[Lady Nasuada]

hang on im confused...
was that sarcasm? or not.... god stop it my brain hurts.....:(

[solarflere]

hang on im confused...
was that sarcasm? or not.... god stop it my brain hurts.....:( Oh sorry, I forgot to respond. That was literal, not sarcasm. See, sarcasm (on the internet) should be either obvious or semi-obvious. I try to do my very best to make it obvious (when I want). But you had to put "Sarcasm" sticker, which mean's that it wasn't obvious and needed clarification. Thats why I agreed with your sarcastic statement in literal terms. :sweat: PM me if it got too confusing, I don't want to fill up the thread with this.

[TheGLIVEN]

Yup, you are right, you are bad at it.:anime:

LOL!!! :anime:

[YumixUlrich]

Ha,ha.I envied you 24 hours ago.Now,I don't.Why?BECAUSE SEASON TWO OF CODE LYOKO IS STARTING ON MONDAY IN SPAIN!!

Practically,I know anything but the Scipia,Vehicles,Aelita gets materialized...Just wanted to,if without any spoilers,you could tell me something more...

Tnx!

YumixUlrich :anime:

[k-day42]

Ha,ha.I envied you 24 hours ago.Now,I don't.Why?BECAUSE SEASON TWO OF CODE LYOKO IS STARTING ON MONDAY IN SPAIN!!

Practically,I know anything but the Scipia,Vehicles,Aelita gets materialized...Just wanted to,if without any spoilers,you could tell me something more...

Tnx!

YumixUlrich :anime:Lemme see.........If only I could use spoiler tags.........
I will say this........

There are new mysteries, new people, new areas, new monsters, new revelations, new gadgets, and new powers..............That's all I think I can say without going into further detail.............PM me if ya wanna know more.

[Tash]

Ha,ha.I envied you 24 hours ago.Now,I don't.Why?BECAUSE SEASON TWO OF CODE LYOKO IS STARTING ON MONDAY IN SPAIN!!

Practically,I know anything but the Scipia,Vehicles,Aelita gets materialized...Just wanted to,if without any spoilers,you could tell me something more...

Tnx!

YumixUlrich :anime:Well, a bit of forewarning:
Xana gets a new power, and about half of the "problem of the day"s revolve around it.

[TheGLIVEN]

*shakes fist* Problem of the day!! MEEEEHEHHHHH....:mad:

[Red]

These episodes are long over and you can talk in the fan club about this other stuff.

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