Power Rangers Episode 568 - (SPD) Insomnia WORLD PREMIERE Talkback

[Dogbert]

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SPD, Emergency!

Previously, on Power Rangers SPD!

A-Squad is missing. B-Squad, with the aid of the Shadow Ranger, has been defending the planet. Since a force from the future came back in time to save the Rangers and Dr. Kat Manx hasn't completely used up her disposable morpher, SPD now has eight Power Rangers to defend New Tech City.

Today, on Power Rangers SPD!

Clip Show!



SPD Datafile
Clip shows are now rumored to be required at least once during mid-30s episode range. Hopefully, Disney will change that for Mystic Force, which will be six episodes shorter than the last three years.

Note: Wormhole must occur after Badge since Mora is in it. This episode occurs right after Badge (to the second by Mora's perspective), so Wormhole must, therefore, occur after this episode. For that reason, this episode is most likely #568. I'll post my timeline in my next post...

[sdp]

didn't catch it, but i did finish my Red Dinothunder costume for halloween, i'm going to rock it out later today. :cool:

anyways, there are still a lot of PRSPD episodes that i'm still seeing for the first time, is it ok to bump those with my opinions after i watch them?

[Dogbert]

My thoughts: The Magnificence is a giant brain? The only time that has ever been pulled off successfully was in Metroid. I'd better see a giant dinosaur-like body in the team-up...

This episode would have been fine if not for the clips (Bridge's clips are the only ones worth seeing again).

I'm a little worried that Wormhole won't fit in the timeline anywhere. It can't go before this episode, and now Mora's attitude will likely be different, which won't fit Wormhole from what I've heard.

Why can't Crugger make up his mind about B-squad? First their bad, then "the best [he's] ever had," now he's doubting their superior skills again...

Only three non-filler episodes left...


Current timeline theory:
1501-1531 (535-565)
1533-1535 (566-568)
-------------------------
1532 (569) - Wormhole
1536 (570) - Resurrection
1537 (571) - Endings, Part 1
1538 (572) - Endings, Part 2

Current schedule (http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/prstuff/prgrid.html):
1535 - Insomnia (TD: Fri Oct. 28,7 PM) (ABC Fam: Oct. 29, 10AM)
1536 - Resurrection (TD: Fri Nov 4, 7PM) (ABC Fam: Nov. 5, 10AM)
1537 - Endings, Part 1 (TD: Nov. 7, 7PM) (ABC Fam: Nov. 12, 10AM)
1538 - Endings, Part 2 (TD: Nov. 14, 8:30 PM) (ABC Fam: Nov. 19, 10:30 AM)
1532 - Wormhole (DVD: SPD V4 & V5: Dec 6)

Reruns over the next three weeks:
ABC Family: SPD, NS (Weekday Mornings).
Toon Disney: SPD, NS (Saturday Evenings), MM (11/8+ Late-Nights, 11/15+ Evenings).

Edit:

there are still a lot of PRSPD episodes that i'm still seeing for the first time, is it ok to bump those with my opinions after i watch them?I'm not a mod, but I think TZ's rules allow you to post in old threads as long as you say something in them (i.e. you can't just say "bump"). Only mods can bump without posting something. So, in short, yes, you can.

Edit #2: Promo apparently aired during a COB (Cable Operator's Break), so most of us missed it. A-squad will be in the next episode; first female red ranger!

Edit #3: Wormhole's opening credits are older than this episode's one (it didn't have Mora in it). That doesn't say anything about the episode itself though. I'm still sticking with my timeline for now...

Also, I'm thinking Grumm is building a body for The Magnificence with the parts. A ship doesn't make much sense. Plus, The Magnificence doesn't look very powerful right now.

[KCJ506]

The clip shows have got to stop. Last year we had one too many. Not every season has to have one. IS, LR, WF, and NS didn't have one. I don't see "The Last Ranger" as a clip show because all of the rangers except Dana lost their memories and they needed some way of restoring them. The other clip shows were just the rangers reminscinig.(sp?)

This episode is my 3rd least favorite this season. The first two are Abandoned and Perspective. The only thing I liked was seeing the Magnificence. Other than that this episode was garbage. Another episode wasted. Instead of making a clip show they could have made an episode that had footage from Deka 46.

If Mystic Force has 32 episodes(which I hope to God do not) then we don't need no effing clip show for a season that short.

[Mackaybear]

As clip shows go it's not too bad. The interaction of the Ranger was well done. And I loved the intercutting of the clips in Bridge's clips of the other saying his name in irritation. Priceless comedy.


Still it did point up some of the inconsistancies this season. Cruger's attitude towards the B squad. The change in their personalities in SWAT that caused them to drop all of the progress they'd made in working together for the sake of an episode plot. Several other alterations as well.


So Mystic Force will only have 32 episodes? Seriously not good. Cheaping out on us. Ratings are good, so spend the money Disney.:(

[Mackaybear]

One question.


Wouldn't "Lost and Found in Translation" count as a Dino Thunder clip show? In a very loose sense of the term?:)

[ShadowGUN]

I'm a little worried that Wormhole won't fit in the timeline anywhere. It can't go before this episode, and now Mora's attitude will likely be different, which won't fit Wormhole from what I've heard.

Edit #3: Wormhole's opening credits are older than this episode's one (it didn't have Mora in it). That doesn't say anything about the episode itself though. I'm still sticking with my timeline for now...

Like I mention on the"Badge" Talkback, I still believe that Wormhole is out of contuinity and if what you said about the credit is truth(been while since I seen Wormhole so a I dont remenber the op credits much) then this prove my point. As for the revelation of the Magnificense, I was surprised by it. I though it was Zord or something similar. The next episode looks gonna be great. A-Squad vs B-Squad :evil: .


Edit- I forgot to mention from the next episode promo is seem we going to get the first female Red Ranger from A-Squad and apparently Jack was winking at her. Oh Jack, you horny ranger you :anime:.

[Dogbert]

So Mystic Force will only have 32 episodes? Seriously not good. Cheaping out on us. Ratings are good, so spend the money Disney.:(Ah, but think about it. Most people will agree that SPD episodes vary in quality, from great to horrible. What if, because they'll have more time to work on each episode, they spend the time to increase the quality of the weaker episodes. Less fillers would be great and I'll take quality of quantity anyday. Maybe they'll lose the clip show requirement. That said, there's always a chance (title usage/pun not intended) that the episodes won't get better. We'll just have to wait and see.


Wouldn't "Lost and Found in Translation" count as a Dino Thunder clip show? In a very loose sense of the term?:)Not really, clip shows are typically thought of as a collection of old footage. Plus, the "clips" form a single coherent story. We wouldn't call an episode with Dr. O watching the rangers battle from his computer screen a clip show, nor is Perspective thought of as a clip show (a bad episode, yes; clip show, no). Lost and Found in Translation is no more a clip show than any other DT episode that uses Abaranger footage.


I still believe that Wormhole is out of contuinity and if what you said about the credit is truth(been while since I seen Wormhole so a I dont remenber the op credits much) then this prove my point.The opening credits can only serve as a reference to production order (confirming that it is, in fact, the missing #1432). The storyline isn't really affected by production order.

If Mora is totally different now, then Wormhole suffers from the same story problem as History; it must occur both before X and after Y, but X occurs before Y. It is a paradox.

Assuming the events in Insomnia occured in the order we saw them (i.e. they all occur during a single night), and that Mora is different now, then Wormhole's only chance to work is if we place it near the end of Badge after Mora returns, but before she enters the room (if that's possible, I can't recall if there was any time between those two scenes).

Wormhole wouldn't be a problem if Mora wasn't in it!

[Chad Bonin]

Got a chance to watch it, and all I have to say is...

I so hate to say this, but I'm gonna have to declare "History" and "Wormhole" to exist in the same continuity that the alternate "Alpha's Magical Christmas" (With Adam, Aisha, Rocky, and Green Ranger Tommy) does, but "The Hidden Episode" remains in continuity.

... while Forever Red may make us question a bunch of stuff, these episodes just contradict timelines way too much.

[bigddan11]

Well, I didn't think it was bad for a clip show because it did develop the plot. It had Mora become the worst evil self she could be, and it had the Rangers realize that Grumm now had all the equipment he needed to create a super weapon. Next week we finally get to see the return of A Squad, and the final battle for Earth is getting close to hand.

[NinjaJack]

Funny how Maggy has changed. first Grumm was preparing for it, now he`s building a body for it. And Grumm was using that gold and diomands for money not for building anything. And the big cop out, saying the Astreroid was used by Grumm when they weren`t looking...:eek:


Good greif! Wheres Judd Lynn!:sweat:

[Justice Lords]

Good greif! Wheres Judd Lynn!:sweat:Probably in the hospital after watching SPD.

[Dogbert]

Assuming the events in Insomnia occured in the order we saw them (i.e. they all occur during a single night), and that Mora is different now, then Wormhole's only chance to work is if we place it near the end of Badge after Mora returns, but before she enters the room (if that's possible, I can't recall if there was any time between those two scenes).Strike that from the record please. I just remembered that Mora was singing something about being glad to be a little girl again at the end of Badge, so my theory above wouldn't work.


I so hate to say this, but I'm gonna have to declare "History" and "Wormhole" to exist in the same continuity that the alternate "Alpha's Magical Christmas" (With Adam, Aisha, Rocky, and Green Ranger Tommy) does, but "The Hidden Episode" remains in continuity.

... while Forever Red may make us question a bunch of stuff, these episodes just contradict timelines way too much.We still need to wait and see if Mora is different in the next episode. There's still a chance for Wormhole to work. As for History, it's not that bad; just pretend the battlizer wasn't there and it works, right?

In my opinion, The Hidden Episode should not stay in continuity any more than the PSAs that followed MMPR should. It's just an ad...

Here's the big question though. Are we (the PR fandom) going to give Wormhole a number, or will we keep it lumped together with The Hidden Episode, Alpha's Magical Christmas, etc.? Unlike the others, Wormhole is the right length and looks like a normal episode. Plus, it was produced as a normal episode (#1532, yes I had the wrong season in my last post). Is this even up to the fans? We know from old scripts that MMPR Productions had a running episode count (Forever Red was #444 for example; The Fate of Lightspeed Part 2 was #377). Wait a minute! Those aren't right. I'm looking at the scripts right now and they have the wrong numbers! Yet Legacy of Power was correct (in being the 500th episode), right?

In any case, as long as SPD started with 1501 as #535, what do we call Wormhole. Anything before Badge doesn't work well, nor would placing it between Badge and Insomnia. Since it involves time travel, maybe we should just call it #572 and say it doesn't matter when it actually occured...

[NinjaJack]

Whoever thought of splitting the teamup was touched in te head.

[Mackaybear]

Having glanced over the thread again I'm now a bit confused.


Is "Wormhole" going to be DVD only and is it not going to air on TD or ABCFamily???

Is the date Dec 6th for the airing or for the DVD release?

[NinjaJack]

Theres a strong chance that the team up didn`t really happen, which sucks because teamups are the only link PR has these days that are obvious to the casual viewer.

Hey you know Doggy asked Kat if she thinks it's possible that Isiniya is alive after having Ichtoir tell him "She`s alive you dumb dog!"

[Dogbert]

Having glanced over the thread again I'm now a bit confused.


Is "Wormhole" going to be DVD only and is it not going to air on TD or ABCFamily???

Is the date Dec 6th for the airing or for the DVD release?The first chance to see Wormhole in the U.S. is by buying SPD DVD Volume 4 or 5 (it's on both) on December 6th. We do not yet know if it will EVER air on TV.

[Mackaybear]

The first chance to see Wormhole in the U.S. is by buying SPD DVD Volume 4 or 5 (it's on both) on December 6th. We do not yet know if it will EVER air on TV.

Those evil, evil people!

Make us buy the DVD since we don't know if it'll ever air .