Eric Brown
10-23-2005, 10:49 PM
Any Quick Draw McGraw fans out there??? TRIVIA; In which HB cartoon series did the character name "Quick Draw McGraw" first appear?????
Steve Carras
10-24-2005, 08:34 PM
I am..btw I have info on the "Capitol Hi-=Q score (the score used beofe 1960 and Hoyt Curtin
's arrival!)..I have the 1994 HB RHINO PIC-A-BIC BASKET set, and was listneting to VOL.!, to SNOOPER and BLABBER (who were on QUICK DRAW)--to
POPCORN
DRESSED TO KILL
CUSTARD PIE CAPERS (known as Foghorn Leghorn's "Toboggan theme"-TOBOGGAN RUN being a whole other tune)
All of the above were by witty British compsoer Phil Green.
[Apologies if I am getting a wee bit OT or going on for a long while here]
If you want to hear the AUGIE,QUICK DRAW or SNOOPER music by ANOTHER VERY underrated team of composers, Emil Cadkin and Harry Bluestone, and possibly Roger Roger and some others, go to www.apmmusic.com (http://www.apmmusic.com) and www.playzm.com (http://www.playzm.com)
Augie Doggie and Funky Phantom have two things in common besides being HB:
The name Augie.
Seemingly "Dedicated" stock score.(AUGIE in fact had Capitol/Seely score NTO too much elsewhere used by HB !) I've done research, thanks to a fewq on anothe forum (none of which I';ll give away for privacy's sake!)
ANd i did research and it WAS FASCIANTING how many regonzable pieces..
Harry Bluestone and Emil Cadkin came up with tunes on
AUGIE like
HAPPY HOME, their in-film SINGATURE with strings usually used when Augie is trying to rationalise things with his "dear old dad"!
PLAYFUL KITTEN and PUZZED PUP
during various "playful scnes"
BTW one of the "Seely Six" (as Howard Fein and others have affeditonately called them!) WARNER shorts, HOOK LINE and STINEKR,sued a Cadkin and Bluestone cue,PUZZLED PUP,several strains during the TNJT-bundle scene with the Coyote!
I've heard Roger Roger (French; prounced Rah-SHAY, Rah-SHAY,) stuff and he did a jazzy tune HANG LOOSE which I woudl tihnk was used on those several HENRY & HIS CLAYMATES of Art CLokey (WHO'S WHAT and DRAGON WITCH) and the one GUMBY I know of with that music (HOTROD GRNANY)-I tihnk some of the coo-jazz films,includin g early 70s CLAY PEACOCK which I beleive was temporairly part of the final early 70s GUMBY syndie package,as well: Roger Roger's HANG LOOSSE<much like Dave Brubeck or Lionel Hampton or something!
QUICK DRAW oftne had the very quriky instrumental, FRED KARNO's ARMY,again Phil Green, which is the SAME song in the musician-stirke Warner short with the Goofy GOphers and Barnyard Dog, GOPHER BROKE over open credits and recurring throguhout.
All of the above Cadkin-Bkuestone and Rogwer cues are on APM and PLAY PRODUCITON music above,under the Calrin Archives seciton (Plkus REN AND STIMPY cues over in KPM ARCHIVES)-Not Geotge Carlin
Getting away from the mujsic, Snagglepuss made a couple of appearance as Snaggletooth,as he was first called (MORE great music here,partly Jack Shaindlin (Chse), the above POPCORN and FRED KARNO plus DIDLECOMB HUNT (Philip Green.EMI Photoplay/Francis Day and Huntger London, UK) .ALL are availbe in the old Rhino PIC-AnIC BASKET series that I FINALLY got after the price went down after ten years this year thanks to my mom, on Amazaon.com)
(Harry Bluestoneand Emil Cadkin did a lot of memorbale Augie Music.Camp LAZLO fans might noter that there was a Alexander Laslo-Alex of JOSIE using CAMP LAZO's last name??-a guy who wrote MY LTITLE MARGIER andf B&W George Reeves SUPERMAN mssic sketching away at the music sheets.) Even Woody Woodpecker's Clarence Wheeler did many scores and arrangements for "John Sewely/Capitol" serie-s-there were two or three of those "Caiptiol Series"..OK/Syncro boght some of those that Art Clokey and Columbiahad or would use (like the famed Hanna Barbera PIXIE AND DIDIE "Little Birdmouse" and "King Size Surprise", HUCK "Sheriff Huck", and YOGI "Slumber Party Smarty" string chase music, sued aorund 1995 when the PIC A NIC BASKET set appeared on a amusing Saturn Auto TV Ad with various "still" shots,thru--the George Hormel or Seely-Loose WATER SKIS-which was CALLED that when firsr used iN Synchro Library in 1955 or 56 with Saxes,(in a GUMBY short called TOY FUN,1957, BTW), but which John Seely and W.G.Loose bought at Capitol and had George Hormel redo with STRINGS..and title it (as with all others there) something like LIGHT MOVEMENT..anywya I;m getting off topic but that was a cue of the HUCKLBERRY SHOW but hardly EVER in QUICK DRAW)..
Anyway, getting back to Snaggletooth, it was interesting in retrospect seeing him there before he crossed over.
Snooper and Blabber were also enjoyable with such stories,as my fsvorite, Aloysius (pronounced OWL-la-WISH-us,as in Terry's POSSIBLE POSSUM :)) , a kind but rich ecctrinic young cta, his evil double and the EVIL butler (all butlers dunnit the latter two of whom try to do him end. THis particurarly always ended with circus-flavored favorite, the aforementioned CUSTARD PIEC APERS (P.Green).
AUGIE DOGGIE, as abovemntioned had real special string "homekaer" music under Doug Young-as-Jimmy Durante as Doggie Daddy and Daws Butler using his own stock boy voice as Augie,and often had lightweight "acceptance" stories when some playmate of Augie (a skunk, a mouse-either Bigelow or other times Fillibert(?) turned out to be unacceptable, even the little duckling (with aforementioned British mood track music library composer Phillip Green's tune,sued on a few GUMBYS, BIG CITY SUITE,yet anotther tune on my PIC A NIC BASKET-thanks to a secret pal of mine for infomring on this.I'll email him if he wants to be mentioned but he's been staying off here. Another memorable one, HIGH AND FLIGHTY (September 1959) had AUGIE building a flying saucer and leaving Doggie heartbroken bwefore Doggie finds the best yet to come, a visitor that he;s happy to accpet (then agian, it means Augie is back--"That;'s muh boy:) (That's Jack Shaindlin's WHO ME when our Durante-Dog walks back-form the venerable Langlois Library.You can also hear these at www.apmmusic.ocm (http://www.apmmusic.ocm) under CINEMUSIC, COMEDY-MANY pieces for Hanna barbera, MY THREE SONS, and Gumby and Davey and Goliath were bY Shaindlin-smae initlas and functionas John Seely but separelty operaitng..)
HmmmI wonder what it'd be like if Parmaount;'s Winston Sharples's music was under say, Yogi bear!:)
www.apmmusic.com (http://www.apmmusic.com) or www.playzm.com (http://www.playzm.com) It's amazing,esp.in CARLIN,KPM in both and in the former case, CINEMUSIC, how much music we'd recognize..like FUN ON ICE in many Yogi's (Shaindlin, Cinemusic!)
Steve Carras
10-24-2005, 08:40 PM
Any Quick Draw McGraw fans out there??? TRIVIA; In which HB cartoon series did the character name "Quick Draw McGraw" first appear?????
I'd say in QUICK DRAW McGRAW (1959) but after what I mentioned of SNAGGLEPUSS (as Saggle-TOOTH-and playing himself as SNAGGLEPUSS in one epsiode)..I'm not sure..there wa sa lot of crossover.
I enjoyed that show..too bad it isnt on CN or on DVD
Eric Brown
10-28-2005, 01:40 AM
The character name QDMcG appeared in the Ruff and Reddy series in the episode "A Slight Fright on a Moonlit Night". Ruff And Reddy were in the ghost town of "Gruesome Gulch". Reddy was knocking on the sheriff office door when Ruff pointed out the sign near the door that stated; "this office closed for the repair of bullet holes", signed sheriff QUICK DRAW McGRAW. The copyright date for this stories group of episodes says 1958. According to wingnuts.com this story group was part of the Ruff and Reddy 3rd season. If that is so, that may put it into 1959. Anybody recall????
Eric Brown
10-29-2005, 03:20 AM
I really do enjoy the early Snaggletooth /Snagglepuss character. As I recall he appeared in several Quick Draw McGraw cartoons as well as at least one Auggie Doggie and maybe even a Snooper/Blabber cartoon. He had more "character" in his early form. The 1961 Yogi Bear Show Snagglepuss is actually annoying. He seems to have a "forced" personality, where as the early one has a "natural antagonistic" personality, which was more enjoyable to watch. The Daws Butler rendering of the Burt Lahr persona in the ealier Snagglepuss was part of the greater appeal. Enough said.
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