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CookieS
10-19-2005, 01:29 PM
This is the talkback thread for Cartoon Network Orders More "Code Lyoko" (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=6296).

Oh joy! At least the show is doing well.

solarflere
10-19-2005, 01:52 PM
Oh my god. We get season 3!!! Wow, we sure showed CN. They couldn't ignore the CL Fan outcry.


French toon producer/distributor MoonScoop has announced production of 45 additional episodes of Code Lyoko for Cartoon Network, giving the series a total of 97 episodes, C21Media (http://www.c21media.net/news/detail.asp?area=79&article=27065) reports.

Due in September 2006, season three will be accompanied by a major merchandising campaign to cover a broad range of licensed products including toys, clothes, stationary, school bags, and a Code Lyoko game on the Nintendo DS platform. Toys and the DS game are old news, but clothes, stationary ans school bags? This is awsome. I just hope they don't burn out the show woth overproduction.

oh and here you go non beliavers.

Moonscoop has signed FUNimation Entertainment as the exclusive licensing agent in the US, with Marvel Toys holding the worldwide master toy licence. The latest deal with Cartoon Network gives the series a total of 97 episodes. http://www.c21media.net/news/detail.asp?area=79&article=27065

Movie-Brat
10-19-2005, 02:02 PM
YES! MORE CODE LYOKO! This rocks!

solarflere
10-19-2005, 02:04 PM
YES! MORE CODE LYOKO! This rocks! As I told you before FUNimation aEntertainment is the exclusive licensing agent in the US, that means the episodes as well as dvds go through them.

Freedom Fighter
10-19-2005, 02:06 PM
A third season? An order of 45 episodes? Wow... that's just unbelievable! Talk about the little show that could... kids usually talk about 'Totally Spies' and 'Winx Club' when it comes to European animation imports, so to see 'Code: Lyoko' not only get renewed but with a very large order too shows kids are into one of the most, if not the most, dramatic cartoons on American TV today.

The renewal, though, also begs questions about the remaining episodes of Season Two. Maybe XANA won't bite the bucket after all, or an antivirus won't be found to separate it from Aelita. Maybe we won't find out as much about Franz Hopper or Lyoko as we thought we would. The good thing about it, though, as that we probably now don't know what to expect come the Season Two finale... which might end up being more interesting/intriguing in the long run.

Movie-Brat
10-19-2005, 02:21 PM
You know, maybe Season 3 will have a new villain.

solarflere
10-19-2005, 07:19 PM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. A show with questionable ratings gets 90+ episodes. Okay, can I have 40 more episodes of Samurai Jack then? Or is that show too critically acclaimed for you guys? An Emmy award and second nomination aren't enough, I guess?

All hail the new "imported domestic" animation era!Why questionable ratings. Its ratings are very high. Have you seen the internet forums lately besides this one. CL rave is it an all time high.

solarflere
10-19-2005, 07:39 PM
Its ratings aren't high and Neilson ratings determine popularity, not the amount of registered members on a fan message board.

It's continuing to be produced because it's from France and is cheaper than a show produced at Cartoon Network Studios/Rough Draft. After all, the quality isn't important anymore, it's how much money you can save.I don't know if they are saving that much since they are dealing with FUNi directly now, not Moonscoop. And it was a proven fact the CL creators visit their own and other boards. It obviously had influance on season 2. And the fan base for CL in U.S. alone is huge.

Mad Mod 49
10-19-2005, 07:42 PM
:ack: :eek: A 45 episode season?!

And here I thought the show might end at Season 2....it's good to be wrong! :D

Lady Nasuada
10-19-2005, 07:51 PM
:ack: :eek: A 45 episode season?!

And here I thought the show might end at Season 2....it's good to be wrong! :D

of course its good to be wrong! especially in this case!

hm i wonder what the clothes they make will look like....


oh yeah i forgot YES YES YES! THIS IS A LIFE CHANGING EVENT FOR CL FANS EVERYWHERE!

sorry i just had to get that off my chest....


but this is too great. EEK! *girl scream*

sag_2002
10-19-2005, 08:56 PM
Frickin' Sweet!This is totally awesome news! More Lyoko = happy me.

William C. Maune
10-19-2005, 09:07 PM
Perhaps ratings are up quite a bit for the second season. Also, I'd imagine that a chunk of the production costs are covered by the French network that airs the series and/or other European channels.

Xerroo
10-19-2005, 09:19 PM
*Reads this*

*Walks away quite pissed off an disgusted*

SporksRFun91
10-19-2005, 09:29 PM
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *bounces up and down, w00t machine goes into overdrive*

This is the best thing that's ever happened to CN ever since... well since like, ever!! :crying: << tears of joy

YAY!! I wonder what WILL happen in Season Three. They can't get rid of XANA-- that's against the Law of CL. Maybe they throw in some new element... OMG THEY SECRETLY READ MY FANFIC AND EMPIRE'S GONNA SHOW UP AREN'T THEY?!?!? I KNEW IT! lol :p

Kodra
10-19-2005, 09:45 PM
Yay! for more Code: Lyoko

Boo! if they end up dragging it out too long.

They'd better keep the show fresh, adding new dimensions while still allowing the kids to slowly progress along the mystery. Giving a show like this length adds a new challenge to the writers.

Hopefully all this recognition doesn't make them lazy.

~Kodra

King_of_doom
10-19-2005, 10:28 PM
Isntead of giving more episodes to their cartoons(like Megas XLR and Samurai Jack) CN wants more from another shows that isnt created by them? CN you really dissapoint me(note im not bashing Code Lyoko, for the people that they think i am).

Kagetsu
10-19-2005, 10:53 PM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. A show with questionable ratings gets 90+ episodes. Okay, can I have 40 more episodes of Samurai Jack then? Or is that show too critically acclaimed for you guys? An Emmy award and second nomination aren't enough, I guess?

All hail the new "imported domestic" animation era!

Its ratings aren't high and Neilson ratings determine popularity, not the amount of registered members on a fan message board.

It's continuing to be produced because it's from France and is cheaper than a show produced at Cartoon Network Studios/Rough Draft. After all, the quality isn't important anymore, it's how much money you can save.
hmm :sad: I was, and still am a fan of SamuraiJack, I enjoyed it for it's different animation style, within the confines of "flash" (I believe it's called)
interesting characters and stories. But I felt it just wasn't developing the story beyond the first season. I would have liked a real end rather than the mishmash we got, but.

Didn't Fosters win an Emmy as well?

Outside of the fact that France3 provided the upfront risk money and that overseas licencing is mostly gravey for a show where ever it comes from. I wouldn't say that France with it's large unions and liberal labor laws is likely to be cheaper. And I believe that animation anywhere in the world uses the same Korean studios for most of the general production.

I haven't heard the ratings for CL beyond the first season rating very high in the target audience. From looking around at the internet fan base, it feels small for an action show, but has a high level of dedication. The second seasons shows that the producers have a good handle on what the fans want from the show and a longer run has a very low risk of failure now.

I had no belief that Xana or the story of CL would end with season two just from seeing how much they've improved the shows animation. I'm a little shocked the a third season is coming so quickly and thrilled that they've released the news already

Tash
10-20-2005, 12:09 AM
hmm :sad: I was, and still am a fan of SamuraiJack, I enjoyed it for it's different animation style, within the confines of "flash" (I believe it's called)Jack isn't done in Flash. It just doesn't have borders.

(unless I'm mistaken)

Freedom Fighter
10-20-2005, 03:01 AM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. A show with questionable ratings gets 90+ episodes. Okay, can I have 40 more episodes of Samurai Jack then? Or is that show too critically acclaimed for you guys? An Emmy award and second nomination aren't enough, I guess?That's on Cartoon Network. Or, their current mantra, to be exact. But yeah, CL fanboyishness aside... if CN were smart, they would've found a way to end 'Samurai Jack' on a good note. With a proper series ending/movie.

TheGLIVEN
10-20-2005, 06:02 AM
Jack isn't done in Flash. It just doesn't have borders.

(unless I'm mistaken)You could make the lines "Alpha 0%".

Originally Posted by Mad Mod 49
:ack: :eek: A 45 episode season?!

And here I thought the show might end at Season 2....it's good to be wrong! :D
45 ERPISDES!? YAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAY!!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
FORTY FIVE!!? HOLY MOLY!!!
I'm GONNA HAVE TO GET MORE VHS!

Tash
10-20-2005, 02:48 PM
You could make the lines "Alpha 0%".
You can also turn the lines off by making the line color "none".

But Jack really isn't done in flash. There was some computer work done on it (as with all shows these days), but it was not Flash. Mucha Lucha was the first flash-animated series, and SJ predates it.

Sugah
10-20-2005, 03:48 PM
HOLY CRAP.

thats what i have to say, Code Lyoko is definitely worthy for getting another season, and with 45 episodes, airing by next fall!??! That's quite a deal! + Merch!! Jeez if only Marathon (spies) worked this fast at first. :p

Rurouni Kenshin
10-20-2005, 04:18 PM
Yes! CN seriously has renewed my faith in them.

Gokou Ruri
10-20-2005, 06:45 PM
That's on Cartoon Network. Or, their current mantra, to be exact. But yeah, CL fanboyishness aside... if CN were smart, they would've found a way to end 'Samurai Jack' on a good note. With a proper series ending/movie. I heard Genndy only wanted a movie to wrap up the series, but CN would only give him another season, so he just decided to let it go. If it's true, CN isn't really at fault since they were probably uneasy with how the PPG movie went.

Wanted
10-20-2005, 09:18 PM
I don't know if they are saving that much since they are dealing with FUNi directly now, not Moonscoop.No... Funimation is the master licensor for the products, and not the show itself. That's been the deal.


Isntead of giving more episodes to their cartoons(like Megas XLR and Samurai Jack) CN wants more from another shows that isnt created by them? CN you really dissapoint meGet over it. Megas XLR wasn't the greatest Cartoon Network original last year (or ever), anyhow. It was redundant, and... not very original or inspiring.

solarflere
10-20-2005, 09:26 PM
No... Funimation is the master licensor for the products, and not the show itself. That's been the deal.

Get over it. Megas XLR wasn't the greatest Cartoon Network original last year (or ever), anyhow. It was redundant, and... not very original or inspiring.
From the link on the first post:

Moonscoop has signed FUNimation Entertainment as the exclusive licensing agent in the US, with Marvel Toys holding the worldwide master toy licence. The latest deal with Cartoon Network gives the series a total of 97 episodes. It has controll over anything CL except for toys, that had Marvel. So basicaly Marvel and FUNi dominate the CL production in the U.S.

King_of_doom
10-20-2005, 09:38 PM
No... Funimation is the master licensor for the products, and not the show itself. That's been the deal.

Get over it. Megas XLR wasn't the greatest Cartoon Network original last year (or ever), anyhow. It was redundant, and... not very original or inspiring.
Look i dont mess with your cartoons for example HHPAY, thats my opinion and you have to respect that.

penguinguy
10-20-2005, 10:03 PM
YAY!:anime: A SEASON 3!:D I'm so happy that i could...:crying: *sniff*:crying: ...its just... so... BEAUTIFUL!

Mirage
10-20-2005, 10:50 PM
To all this is great news.

For me I look forward to the episodes to come.

Just hope that they will keep Code Lyoko on at 6:00pm on the Miguzi Schedule.Since the time it is at is the best time that is appropriate.

Strollymonster
10-20-2005, 11:26 PM
Dang...I like the show, but I had no idea that we'd be getting THAT MANY more episodes...this is a level that outdoes classics like Samurai Jack and Megas XLR.

Awesome news, indeed!

Wanted
10-21-2005, 05:59 AM
Look i dont mess with your cartoons for example HHPAY, thats my opinion and you have to respect that.When was the last time I watched Hi Hi? Oh, yeah, months ago.

I really don't care what you say about the animations I watch. It might actually make for an intellectual discussion, if we actually talked about it. I was just merely expressing my opinions about Megas XLR, a show that I watched... I assure you, I liked it, but I do have to admit that there are flaws in just about every series I watch.

W.I.T.C.H., for example. Dubbing; what were they doing? On two occasions did they get the voices of Will and Irma mixed up, and for what reason?

Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi? The secondary character designs suck, and the backgrounds are even worse. Yet, I still like the show.

So, it's alright to watch shows with flaws, whether they be minor or major.

It has controll over anything CL except for toys, that had Marvel. So basicaly Marvel and FUNi dominate the CL production in the U.S.If that's the truth... I'm just going to ask:

WHY?

If Cartoon Network originally dealt with Anteflims, then with Moonscoop, and now with Funimation... somebody make that into a brain teaser.

solarflere
10-21-2005, 06:59 AM
If Cartoon Network originally dealt with Anteflims, then with Moonscoop, and now with Funimation... somebody make that into a brain teaser. It was not up to CN. Moonscoop, the production company which releases CL to the world signed a deal with FINi. CN was out of the loop. FUNi holds the exclusive distribution rights in the entire US. Hey, I didn't make that up. Thats what C21Media reports, and if its good enough source for Toon Zone (which first reported it) its good enough for me.

Wanted
10-21-2005, 02:35 PM
It was not up to CN.I... actually never said it was.

Happy
10-22-2005, 04:06 AM
Great now the COde Lyoko fans will never shut up.

solarflere
10-22-2005, 07:03 AM
Great now the COde Lyoko fans will never shut up.And why exactly should we have to. I find the whole statement insulting. if you don't like the show, don't post in its talkback, as simple as that.

Wanted
10-22-2005, 07:08 AM
True. Here, we're all entitled to our own opinions, as long as those opinions abide by the rules. Nobody's breaking anything yet, so I say, why not let them talk?

97 episodes... boy, I'm glad Funimation's releasing the DVDs. If they plan right, we might be able to see boxed sets earlier than other shows have (considering this is the first non-anime show that is currently premiering that they have rights to).

Scirel
10-22-2005, 06:14 PM
Excellent.

Season 2 is a dramatic improvement over season one in just about every possible way, and I only hope the trend continues.

About that SJ news, was that really true? If so, did he insist on a theatrical movie? Because they could have just made a TV movie like Birth of Evil or Scotsman saves Jack.

Master Moron
10-22-2005, 10:24 PM
I haven't heard the ratings for CL beyond the first season rating very high in the target audience. From looking around at the internet fan base, it feels small for an action show, but has a high level of dedication. The second seasons shows that the producers have a good handle on what the fans want from the show and a longer run has a very low risk of failure now.



Really? I haven't watched season 2 at all. Does Cici ever join their team? Cause that's what I want.

solarflere
10-22-2005, 10:36 PM
Really? I haven't watched season 2 at all. Does Cici ever join their team? Cause that's what I want. LOL thats Sissy and no, not yer. She played a tiny part one time with the super computer but there was a time reset so she ramambers nothing.

penguinguy
10-22-2005, 11:14 PM
Does anyone know when new eps. start on CN? if not just tell me they hadnt started already. (If they did i DIABLO will bring hell to the world):evil: ...:D

solarflere
10-23-2005, 12:05 AM
This coming Monday is Vertigo, a new episode.

Mad Mod 49
10-23-2005, 01:48 PM
Really? I haven't watched season 2 at all. Does Cici ever join their team? Cause that's what I want.
Not yet, but alot people want her to ever since "Ultimatum".



Does anyone know when new eps. start on CN? if not just tell me they hadnt started already

They start tommorow with "Vertigo" and end on November 01 with "Is anybody out there?". Then it'll be re-runs starting from "Marabounta" and moving from there. Then once the re-runs are done, I estimate they'll wrap up the season with the last four episodes ("Contact", "Franz Hopper", "Revelation", and "The Key")

Master Moron
10-25-2005, 12:48 PM
LOL thats Sissy and no, not yer. She played a tiny part one time with the super computer but there was a time reset so she ramambers nothing.

I read somewhere that Cici was the official spelling for her name, but I'm not sure. Did they ever explain why Odd, Ulrich, Jeremy, and Yumi aren't affected by the time resets? Why don't they ever lose their memories?

solarflere
10-25-2005, 12:59 PM
I read somewhere that Cici was the official spelling for her name, but I'm not sure. Did they ever explain why Odd, Ulrich, Jeremy, and Yumi aren't affected by the time resets? Why don't they ever lose their memories? No they didn't, its part of the mystery, all we have are theories right now. I think that somehow they entered their DND sequence (including Jeremy) so they would be the only ones to be imune to the RTTP.
And I never seen Cici anywhere. Its always been Sissy.

TheGLIVEN
10-25-2005, 04:28 PM
No they didn't, its part of the mystery, all we have are theories right now. I think that somehow they entered their DND sequence (including Jeremy) so they would be the only ones to be imune to the RTTP.
And I never seen Cici anywhere. Its always been Sissy.http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4624/sissiorsissy7sr.gif

It's definatly not Cici....

solarflere
10-25-2005, 05:02 PM
It's definatly not Cici.... LOL Thanx for going that far to prove my point. I actualy atfirst thought it was a simple typo:sweat:.

Master Moron
10-27-2005, 06:37 PM
LOL Thanx for going that far to prove my point. I actualy atfirst thought it was a simple typo:sweat:.

Well, to be fair, you spelled it wrong too...

solarflere
10-27-2005, 07:01 PM
Well, to be fair, you spelled it wrong too...Where? I can't find it.

Youko Recca
10-27-2005, 07:19 PM
LOL at this. Would much rather have had Jack, or even Megas, but, whatever. I don't watch Miguzi anyway. CN needs to get out of this train of thought it's in. Not openly denouncing this show or anything, just...why?

solarflere
10-27-2005, 07:42 PM
LOL at this. Would much rather have had Jack, or even Megas, but, whatever. I don't watch Miguzi anyway. CN needs to get out of this train of thought it's in. Not openly denouncing this show or anything, just...why?You are denounsing the show, quite openly. And to answer your question: Because we demamded it.:evil:

Youko Recca
10-27-2005, 07:45 PM
What? If anything, I'm getting at CN.

EDIT: They're willing to spill two or more drops of blood, to save one drop of water.

solarflere
10-27-2005, 07:47 PM
What? If anything, I'm getting at CN.huh, and that means what?

solarflere
10-27-2005, 08:01 PM
^That is the biggest post ever, how can I read the whole thing. :eek::confused: Isn't there a rule not to reply witha one word (or simbol) responses. Post count is discouraged here.

k-day42
10-27-2005, 08:08 PM
That is the biggest post ever, how can I read the whole thing. :eek::confused: Isn't there a rule not to reply witha one word (or simbol) responses. Post count is discouraged here.
...I think he was talking about the triumphant return of Yu Yu Hakusho....

solarflere
10-27-2005, 08:13 PM
...I think he was talking about the triumphant return of Yu Yu Hakusho....Who knows what he meant. The fact is that CL threads are for people who like CL to talk about it, not to diss it. Don't like it, don't post here. As simple as that.

Wanted
10-27-2005, 08:21 PM
Isn't there a rule not to reply witha one word (or simbol) responses.Not really. That's why they allow one-character replies. In '03, it was at least three, I think.


Post count is discouraged here.That's why moderators and some of the most revered posters have the highest point counts...

Post count, in fact, is not discouraged. Double-posting and triple + posting is looked down on, however, as is unnecessary posting.

solarflere
10-27-2005, 08:23 PM
Not really. That's why they allow one-character replies. In '03, it was at least three, I think.

That's why moderators and some of the most revered posters have the highest point counts...

Post count, in fact, is not discouraged. Double-posting and triple + posting is looked down on, however, as is unnecessary posting.When i read the TZ rules, is said that post count is not ilegal, but discouraged. And in the same rules it said that one word replies and things like LOL are also discouraged.

Wanted
10-27-2005, 08:28 PM
The fact is that CL threads are for people who like CL to talk about it, not to diss it. Don't like it, don't post here. As simple as that.That is not the fact, and it is not that simple.
There is no rule saying you can't discuss shows you don't like. As long as theres no flame wars, by all means people can discuss things. If each and every single thread out there was dominated by people who all felt the exact same way about stuff, then the discussion would get pretty boring.

Lutochris
10-28-2005, 11:56 AM
This thread is about the news item that said that Code Lyoko got a new season. This makes some people happy and some mad, and each are allowed to post their view, not just the happy fans.

Though I have to say, it seems like most of the unhappy people are only mad out of spite because this show got renewed when some of their old favorites didn't. While I do agree CN has made some bad choices with past shows, this defenitely isn't one of them. This is a huge victory for animated justice. Just be happy that a good show is doing good.

EscaflownePilot
10-28-2005, 02:14 PM
Agreed. Why do people keep making the argument that Samurai Jack or Megas XLR should've been renewed instead?

Renewing a cheaper foreign acquisition really doesn't compare to renewing and fully funding an original series, regardless of how close the shows in question are with regards to their ratings. You all realize that were Code Lyoko not renewed, it still wouldn't mean that Samurai Jack and/or Megas XLR would be renewed, right?

Wanted
10-28-2005, 02:54 PM
When i read the TZ rules, is said that post count is not ilegal, but discouraged.Your wording is off, and that's what makes your statement useless. I'm sure that if you stated "Posting just for the sake of boosting your post count is discouraged," more people would believe you, but, since you say that "post count is discouraged," then that means that posts of any kind are looked down upon, which is not the truth.


And in the same rules it said that one word replies and things like LOL are also discouraged.Sure, everybody hates them, but they're still allowed.

By the way, what EscaflownePilot said.

solarflere
10-28-2005, 03:06 PM
Agreed. Why do people keep making the argument that Samurai Jack or Megas XLR should've been renewed instead?

Renewing a cheaper foreign acquisition really doesn't compare to renewing and fully funding an original series, regardless of how close the shows in question are with regards to their ratings. You all realize that were Code Lyoko not renewed, it still wouldn't mean that Samurai Jack and/or Megas XLR would be renewed, right?I dont know if its that much cheaper than any other Funimation show. Probably still cheaper than an original series, but certainly not cheap.

Master Moron
10-28-2005, 06:54 PM
Where? I can't find it.


LOL thats Sissy and no, not yer. She played a tiny part one time with the super computer but there was a time reset so she ramambers nothing.

According to the website theGliven posted, it's spelled Sissi, not Sissy.

Edit:Wait, what the hell, that website he posted shows TWO spellings of her name on the same page! Is it Sissi or Sissy?

Gokou Ruri
10-28-2005, 07:10 PM
Sissi = The short name for Elizabeth.
Sissy = Someone regarded as timid or cowardly.

solarflere
10-28-2005, 07:38 PM
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4624/sissiorsissy7sr.gif

It's definatly not Cici.... read at the top, say what now?:confused:
The website refers to hes as SISSY in bold capital letters at the top. Also in the text we see Sissi. So both names are correct but where did you dream up Cici from?