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I've been a huge fan of all the Timm-DC series. After the WTC tragedy, I've been wondering if Timm would do a WTC Tribute episode for the second season. The episode(s) could spotlight the real heroes, the firefighters, police officers, etc. As some of you may or may not know, my uncle, Matthew Rogan of Ladder Company 11 died on Sept. 11, when the WTC collapsed. He was like a father to me.
I read a speech at a memorial mass for him, and I concluded my speech with the line "In the end, the world didn't need a Superman, just a brave one." That line delivered by Superman in "Apokolips Now! Part Two" (Of "S:TAS) as he stood over Dan Turpin's grave hit me hard, even before the terrorist attacks.
The sacrifices made by those men on that fateful day cannot be forgotten and will not be forgotten. Everyday, people die and most people don't think about how much that one person meant to so many people. In movies, we see characters die and nothing is thought past that. But what about the people who died and how many lives that were affected as a result?
I just think that Timm could do a two parter and spotlight these heroes. Maybe many of you will disagree, but if Timm is reading this, please consider this plea. Other shows on television think they know how to handle the WTC attack, but I cannot think of one show that has done it properly. It doesn't even have to be directly about the WTC though - maybe it could be done like "Apokolips Now" a tribute to Kirby and would not directly involve the attacks that occured. I leave you with this: the real heroes aren't the ones who are dressed in tights, nor do the real monsters wear costumes. Just something to consider...
Calhoun07
12-23-2001, 09:49 AM
I think such a tribute should be moved up to the first season, if possible. I think this is a great idea.
Jowy Blight
12-23-2001, 01:17 PM
I agree, that is a wonderful idea. I hope someone takes notice of it.
Karkull
12-23-2001, 01:41 PM
Nice idea, but it wouldn't work too well. Animation takes roughly a year to do, and by then it will look like too little, too late.
Originally posted by Karkull
Nice idea, but it wouldn't work too well. Animation takes roughly a year to do, and by then it will look like too little, too late.
I don't know, I think it is still possible to be made as the season two premiere. I really would like to see this done and I'm hoping Mr. Timm reads this thread and takes it into consideration.
ZorBrak
12-23-2001, 07:30 PM
from what I hear Warner reads these forums alot for guidance and feedback, which is why I constantly attack their DVD methods :D hoping to knock some since in them. but yeah that is a fantastic idea, and I am deeply saddened to hear of your uncle's death, may he rest in peace.
Calhoun07
12-23-2001, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Karkull
Nice idea, but it wouldn't work too well. Animation takes roughly a year to do, and by then it will look like too little, too late.
It won't ever be too late. There will be annual memorials to this tradedy forever.
The Green Hornet
12-24-2001, 02:37 AM
gosh a whole episode might be tough to do
if they did something like the episodes dedicated to jack kirby of STAS that might work
Originally posted by ZorBrak
from what I hear Warner reads these forums alot for guidance and feedback, which is why I constantly attack their DVD methods :D hoping to knock some since in them. but yeah that is a fantastic idea, and I am deeply saddened to hear of your uncle's death, may he rest in peace.
Thanks man. He is greatly missed.
Poison Carley
12-24-2001, 11:29 AM
Let me play the villian here... I think its a bad idea for the simple fact kids do not need to have it shoved down their throats again. Thankfully cartoon network remained on the air that day for them. It wasn't fair to expose kids to those "highlights" over and over. This is a cartoon that is aimed for kids and its something to escape reality and take our minds away from such events. The events that happened that day have no place in a cartoon anyways.
Calhoun07
12-24-2001, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Poison Carley
Let me play the villian here... I think its a bad idea for the simple fact kids do not need to have it shoved down their throats again. Thankfully cartoon network remained on the air that day for them. It wasn't fair to expose kids to those "highlights" over and over. This is a cartoon that is aimed for kids and its something to escape reality and take our minds away from such events. The events that happened that day have no place in a cartoon anyways.
When I was a kid, when I found a cartoon that did not insult my intelligence I loved it. I think kids today deserve the same. I am not saying JL is not an intelligent cartoon, but I am saying I think kids can take it. And you have no idea how thereputic it might be for a child who lost a loved one that day.
Ed Liu
12-26-2001, 12:20 PM
Howdy all,
First off, let me add to the condolences offered to Vincent over the loss of his uncle. Words can't ever be enough, but I feel your uncle's loss more keenly than you'd think, for reasons which will probably become apparent soon.
That said, I have to question a direct JL tribute to the WTC simply because it begs the question, "Where were you?" My office was actually in WTC 1, and I was lucky enough to have overslept that morning, arriving about 10 minutes after the second plane hit my building. It sounds stupid now, but one of my early thoughts after seeing both towers on fire (right after "well, that's not something you see every day" and "I'm getting the $*&@ out of here right now") was, "This looks like a job for Superman." Then I remembered that this was real life, not a movie, and that Superman wasn't coming. It was not the first or only moment when my heart broke that day, but it sticks with me.
So far, the only comic that attempted to deal directly with Sept 11 was Spider-Man. I thought it was a valiant effort which ultimately fell down for me because I couldn't get around the fact that Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man were at Ground Zero helping rescue workers, when they weren't there to stop the actual event.
The Justice League wasn't in New York when the towers fell, but your uncle was, as were his colleagues in the FDNY and NYPD. I'd love to see the JL pay homage to those who fell in the line of duty somehow, without somehow cheapening their sacrifice or themselves in the process. Perhaps the upcoming 9-11 books from DC/Dark Horse/et al will manage to address this.
-- Ed/Ace
ZorBrak
12-27-2001, 03:44 AM
you over slept? wow, although that is a tragic event that will haunt all Americans for the rest of our lives, we are lucky you did.
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