View Full Version : Is Toon Disney becoming Jetix?
Chad Bonin
10-08-2005, 12:41 AM
Like The New TNN became Spike TV, CNX became Toonami, is Toon Disney shifting into turbo... er... Jetix? I only have the channel on a not-as-readily-available TV (I have it on the den TV, not my personal bedroom one), but I see that the schedule is massively Jetixized... no thanks to Matt Williams pointing out he gets to watch Power Rangers against Adult Swim.
I certainly think this is a possibility, and wouldn't mind seeing it. My only problem would be all the premieres shifting to the channel... which we're already seeing with SPD (I'm not seeing how the ratings are affected, but I know the fandom is consistently confused and/or angry).
So, yeah, is there any actual plans to turn it into Jetix full-time, or just incredibly logical guessing?
Ducktales Fan
10-08-2005, 12:52 AM
It seems like it, don't it???
For me personally, I don't like it one bit. I wish they would go back to the classic cartoon series of the '80's and early-to-mid 90's. Those were the best!
And besides, I miss my Ducktales and I want it back on the air!
William C. Maune
10-08-2005, 12:58 AM
I think it is a really good possibility considering other parts of the world already have their own Jetix channels. First though, I'm guessing they would continue to expand the current Jetix block on Toon Disney (i.e. start it earlier or go into overnights) until it just sort of takes over.
Wanted
10-08-2005, 06:11 AM
Might as well. Expand = more shows. Besides, who wouldn't like to see Kim Possible strut her stuff on Jetix?
Really, though, Disney would have to make a number of show orders, and bring back a number of shows from the FOX Family vault... which would be cool.
Mr Cat Dog
10-08-2005, 07:42 AM
Well, over here we have Toon Disney and Jetix. If Jetix is proving to be very popular, and with an expansion of the current block, you may very well see it spun-off into its own channel (if it proves to be a profitable venture, as well).
Mackaybear
10-08-2005, 09:41 AM
Well on weekends now Jetix starts at 1pm Pacific time. Both Sat and Sun. And it is nice to get the PR repeats at 9 or 10PM. So it is expanding.
It would be nice to see action toons take over. But as has been said they'd need to get more series made and I'd doubt they'd give up the younger skewing programs in the morning/early afternoon.
fanboy
10-08-2005, 03:16 PM
This is a nightmare, Disney Cartoons are much better than Evil Jetix:evil: , and all the saban stuff.:mad: :mad: :mad:
Wanted
10-08-2005, 10:05 PM
This is a nightmare, Disney Cartoons are much better than Evil Jetix:evil: , and all the saban stuff.:mad: :mad: :mad:Well, it depends what Disney cartoons you're talking about. Brandy and Whiskers better than W.I.T.C.H.? No.
Think about it this way, though. Jetix animations are Disney 'toons. Disney owns 'em, so they're theirs. Same goes for Saban 'toons. Even the ones they don't air.
Chad Bonin
10-08-2005, 10:23 PM
I have no doubt a Jetix channel would reach even farther into the Saban databases. We might actually get to see the VR Troopers or the Big Bad Beetleborgs once again, alongside Silver Surfer or The Avengers.
Tintin
10-08-2005, 10:41 PM
Well, it depends what Disney cartoons you're talking about. Brandy and Whiskers better than W.I.T.C.H.? No.
I'm agree with you. Some foreign shows, sometimes the best that you ever watched worth that air in your home
For my part, i recommand you Space Goofs, same that already air on FOX one season, but rerurn recently with new episodes in France. I hope that air the newest and in same time the oldest in Canada. He now miss me!! :anime:
Tintin
10-08-2005, 10:46 PM
Speaking about Jetix, why Toon Disney air not the 60's Spider-Man cartoon shows? That air in my home and i find very brillant and much better compared to 90's series that too much standard
One Radical Dude
10-09-2005, 12:18 AM
I've suggested this before--but yeah, I do think "Toon Disney" should become "Jetix". I think it would be more appropriate to change the network's name than to keep it as Toon Disney.
Ducktales Fan
10-09-2005, 01:31 AM
I've suggested this before--but yeah, I do think "Toon Disney" should become "Jetix". I think it would be more appropriate to change the network's name than to keep it as Toon Disney. Well, it certainly doesn't seem like 'Toon Disney', that's for sure!!!
Wanted
10-09-2005, 08:44 AM
In my opinion, I think Jetix is finally making a move to differentiate itself from Toon Disney. The new bug finally came (it's just stupid to see a Toon Disney bug during Power Rangers). I think that their next move should be to corner their shows (as in, air the Digimon movies on Jetix, and not Toon Disney) and present themselves without network identification.
After all, more than one-third of the network is Jetix, there's no denying that fact. I think it's time that they make a new endeavor. Jetix Network. Acquisitons. Series from the grave. International series. It could happen. Jetix and Jetix Europe could become affiliated (somehow) and share titles (some that aren't tied up with other companies here in the US).
fanboy
10-09-2005, 09:14 AM
Give Jetix his own channel and leave Toon Disney alone
Wanted
10-09-2005, 11:53 AM
And, this is a point we all can agree on. However, without Jetix, it's to be heard that Toon Disney would become a better network.
Martin
10-19-2005, 06:59 AM
Give Jetix his own channel and leave Toon Disney aloneThat's already the case in several European countries. And you won't find the Disney logo on the homepage.
EscaflownePilot
10-19-2005, 08:24 AM
I'd be all for Toon Disney turning Jetix IF:
- The action-ish Disney Afternoon cartoons like Tailspin, Ducktales, Rescue Rangers, Tarzan, etc. are all kept on, and put on at DECENT times
- They dig up basically everything from Saban's history to help fill the schedule
- Fund ALOT more new stuff, and start grabbing more foreign acquisitions to help fill the schedule (Pluster World, Onmyou Taisenki, and Kamen Rider would all be good choices).
- A decent amount of variety is kept in the schedule (so, no huge Power Rangers or Kim Possible marathons everyday).
Andrew T. Hingson
10-19-2005, 12:05 PM
If TD were to become Jetix then I'd want older Disney toons to have a home. So bring in Vault Disney with anything from the 90's on back. Some 90's stuff would on the Jetix obviously.
Or... keep TD as TD and fill the schedule with a variety of old and new Disney toons AND some stuff like Eek the Cat, Bobby's World, Sam & Max, etc. Then give Jetix it's own channel and make sure to include much more if not all of Saban's usable library.
Jeff Harris
10-19-2005, 02:03 PM
I don't see Toon Disney being around much longer, at least in its current incarnation. It wouldn't surprise me at all if at this time next year, Jetix would be the dominant brand on the network, including the name. Heck, when Power Rangers premiered on Toon Disney in primetime, the name became obsolete.
Does that mean that the traditional Disney cartoons will gone when the change takes place? No. The traditional Disney cartoons are already gone. DuckTales, Gummi Bears, Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, TaleSpin, classic Disney shorts, and others that made the Disney name so proud are history, ancient history to these programmers who feel "old stuff=bad TV." Heck, even Gargoyles, a show considered by many to be Disney television animation at its best, are in limited slots on the network.
Jetix is largely seen as an action block stateside, but worldwide, it was once Fox Kids, a programming juggernaut for at much of the 90's built up of great brands and popular programming of all genres. Shows like Eek The Cat and Bobby's World sharing space with shows like Spider-Man, X-Men, Power Rangers, and The Tick. Instead of being a graveyard for old One Saturday Morning and Disney Channel cartoons, Toon Disney could fully embrace the worldwide Jetix name and became a network for everybody. Jetix is working where Toon Disney didn't, and putting butts on couches.
They could even air more live-action fare like VR Troopers, Masked Rider, and Spellbound (which had the rarity of being on Disney Channel and the pre-Disney owned Fox Family Chanel) without being scorned for being "out of place" on an animation outlet.
Heck, they could even reconfigure a weekday afterschool block on Jetix that is definitely Disney-oriented. Air older Disney fare as well as mix in recent Disney-branded products and create something called fancy and familiar, The Disney Afternoon.
ABC Cable is definitely intent on making Jetix a brand name Stateside, and I think they could accomplish that. They could keep the Jetix name as the morning animation brand on ABC Family while Jetix could be the permanent name for Toon Disney, bridging itself between tradition and modern animation and children's programming on a global scale. The time is now.
Burgundy Ranger
10-20-2005, 09:14 PM
Jeff, that's clearly where ABC's Cable Networks Group (CNG, for short -- which runs Disney Channel, Toon Dis, Soap Net and the Jetix portion of ABC Family) is headed.
They've even gone so far as to run Digimon and (coming soon) Kong movies in the "Big Movie Show" time slot on TD instead of in the Jetix block proper.
I believe that, given the chance, ABC Family would pull the plug on the Jetix blocks yesterday. In every aspect other than actually putting the shows on the air, they act as if they just don't want to be bothered with it:
* They don't promote in non-Jetix hours.
* They don't issue any press releases on their own -- the ABC Family airings of PR, WITCH, etc., are almost an afterthought in the much bigger to-do about when they're on Toon Disney.
* They insist that they not be included in the weekly Saturday morning ratings reports that do include Cartoon Network, Nick and Disney Channel. (The editor of this report said ABCFam went to an unprecedented level to be left out. They don't like the inferrence that their channel might be for kids-only)
Mackaybear
10-20-2005, 10:23 PM
If TD were to become Jetix then I'd want older Disney toons to have a home. So bring in Vault Disney with anything from the 90's on back. Some 90's stuff would on the Jetix obviously.
Or... keep TD as TD and fill the schedule with a variety of old and new Disney toons AND some stuff like Eek the Cat, Bobby's World, Sam & Max, etc. Then give Jetix it's own channel and make sure to include much more if not all of Saban's usable library.
Best idea I've heard yet.
Bring out some of the Saban library stuff. Throw in the "action oriented Disney toon's". Yeah, maybe even dub and bring in Kamen Rider or Toho's Gransazer,Justiriser, and Sazer X. And buy some of the stuff CN or Nick won't touch. Maybe even add things like TazMania.
Hordesman
10-21-2005, 01:13 PM
The Shaman King boxsets in France have the Jetix logo on them. Anyone else know what else airs or has aired on Jetix channels that would be already packaged/dubbed/etc. in English that doesn't already air here?
fanboy
10-21-2005, 02:48 PM
The Shaman King boxsets in France have the Jetix logo on them. Anyone else know what else airs or has aired on Jetix channels that would be already packaged/dubbed/etc. in English that doesn't already air here?
Totally Spies, Pokemon, Hamtaro, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003), Jackie Chan Adventures, Shin Chan
Burdette25159
10-31-2005, 10:06 AM
I don't see Toon Disney being around much longer, at least in its current incarnation. It wouldn't surprise me at all if at this time next year, Jetix would be the dominant brand on the network, including the name. Heck, when Power Rangers premiered on Toon Disney in primetime, the name became obsolete.
Does that mean that the traditional Disney cartoons will gone when the change takes place? No. The traditional Disney cartoons are already gone. DuckTales, Gummi Bears, Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, TaleSpin, classic Disney shorts, and others that made the Disney name so proud are history, ancient history to these programmers who feel "old stuff=bad TV." Heck, even Gargoyles, a show considered by many to be Disney television animation at its best, are in limited slots on the network.
Jetix is largely seen as an action block stateside, but worldwide, it was once Fox Kids, a programming juggernaut for at much of the 90's built up of great brands and popular programming of all genres. Shows like Eek The Cat and Bobby's World sharing space with shows like Spider-Man, X-Men, Power Rangers, and The Tick. Instead of being a graveyard for old One Saturday Morning and Disney Channel cartoons, Toon Disney could fully embrace the worldwide Jetix name and became a network for everybody. Jetix is working where Toon Disney didn't, and putting butts on couches.
They could even air more live-action fare like VR Troopers, Masked Rider, and Spellbound (which had the rarity of being on Disney Channel and the pre-Disney owned Fox Family Chanel) without being scorned for being "out of place" on an animation outlet.
Heck, they could even reconfigure a weekday afterschool block on Jetix that is definitely Disney-oriented. Air older Disney fare as well as mix in recent Disney-branded products and create something called fancy and familiar, The Disney Afternoon.
ABC Cable is definitely intent on making Jetix a brand name Stateside, and I think they could accomplish that. They could keep the Jetix name as the morning animation brand on ABC Family while Jetix could be the permanent name for Toon Disney, bridging itself between tradition and modern animation and children's programming on a global scale. The time is now.I think Jetix should air Darkwing Duck, Bonkers and Ducktales since they all have action in it! Heck they can air them uncut Late at night! Jetix should also air Doctor Who!
k-unit101
11-02-2005, 06:40 PM
I do think that Toon Disney is turning into Jetix completely. I find it pretty sad, but hey we could all see it coming last year couldn't we? Jetix just kept expanding and expanding, and look at it now. On weekends it covers pretty much half of the airtime on Toon Disney. I miss the old Toon Disney from when it first started. I didn't get the channel until 2001, one year before it became part of the cable package and I would spend all my summer days just watching the channel for hours and hours and never once did I turn the channel. In my opinion Jetix is a pretty good block. I just wish that it would get it's own channel and not remain part of Toon Disney. But I don't really see anything that we here at the Toon Zone Forums want to happen to the channel actually happening. I think that Jetix will probally eventually take over all of Toon Disney and it would probally consist of shows that it has now and other action classics that used to air on the old Fox Kids. I mean, pretty much all of the classic Disney cartoons that once aired on Toon Disney are gone with the exception of a few. If Jetix did become it's own channel I don't see Disney really keeping any Disney shows it currently airs now. They will probably just throw them all in the vault. Look at what they did to cartoon classics such as "DuckTales". It's pretty sad but probably true. I don't know though I guess we'll just have to wait and watch to see what does happen.
Mackaybear
11-03-2005, 09:48 AM
You know the smart thing for Disney to do would be to spin off Jetix as it's own channel with more action oriented toons/live action shows. Since they've already started in that direction with PR.
And have Toon Disney be their "Boomerang". Show the old theatricals, and the pre 2000 stuff. With Disney/ABC's marketing muscle they'd get more channel clearance than Time Warner did for Boomerang. And have more cable systems carrying it.
EscaflownePilot
11-03-2005, 10:39 AM
Basically, from this point forward, the only two companies who ever will get any new channels with any kind of exposure are Viacom and Disney. In fact, most digital cable providers eagerly add anything and everything either of those two companies create (including about 5 additional useless MTV channels that all claim to show only a certain genre yet end up playing the same crap as MTV2), so I could definitely see Disney successfully keeping Toon Disney while adding a spin-off Jetix channel.
Burdette25159
11-03-2005, 04:46 PM
Basically, from this point forward, the only two companies who ever will get any new channels with any kind of exposure are Viacom and Disney. In fact, most digital cable providers eagerly add anything and everything either of those two companies create (including about 5 additional useless MTV channels that all claim to show only a certain genre yet end up playing the same crap as MTV2), so I could definitely see Disney successfully keeping Toon Disney while adding a spin-off Jetix channel.That's the ticket! I see it too!
Yamwacky
11-03-2005, 05:04 PM
Jetix is a block on Toon Disney, just like the old "One Saturday Morning" was a block on ABC. And some of the Jetix shows are actually Disney shows - produced by Disney. "Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go!" and "Get Ed" are both produced by Disney. Others are aquisitions. So it's a mix. :zim:
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