Superman in BB's "The Call" vs JL

[The Green Hornet]

i rewatched the episode today-- i didnt realize supes was so powerful in that ep

i wish they would make him more on that level on JL

my ONE problem with that ep was that the chunk of kryptonite was a SLIVER compared to what he has come into contact with in the past, and this sliver knocked him out almost immediatly!

what do you think?

[Terminal]

"It doesn't takes much, does it?" Batman says to Supes in "World Finest".

[Naraht]

Kryptonite is a highly unstable plot device...

from what I've observed depite the claims, kryptonite can't kill Superman, it just super-weakens him until someone saves him. It doesn't matter how much kryptonite is present, a sliver is as powerful as a large meteor...basically as Yoda once said "Size Matters Not"
I'm tired..bleh!

[Calhoun07]

Kryptonite may not kill him, but it can strip his powers down considerably leaving him vulnerable as a normal man, which could in turn kill him.

[Naraht]

Originally posted by calhoun07
Kryptonite may not kill him, but it can strip his powers down considerably leaving him vulnerable as a normal man, which could in turn kill him.

Nonononononono, you can't shoot Superman when he's weakened by Kryptonite, you just leave him by the Kryptonite, cause it's supposed to kill him...it's a side effect of the "put the hero in an elaborate, complicated killing machinginstead of just shooting him in the head"- syndrome.

[Kal-el]

Originally posted by naraht
Nonononononono, you can't shoot Superman when he's weakened by Kryptonite, you just leave him by the Kryptonite, cause it's supposed to kill him...it's a side effect of the "put the hero in an elaborate, complicated killing machinginstead of just shooting him in the head"- syndrome.
Yeah, and that complicated killing machine always has the one weakness that the hero can use to make their escape (Batman and Robin tv show from the 60's anyone?)

I do remember the kryptonite looking silver in "The Call", but I wonder if that was just due to poor coloring or bad lighting. At times it did appear green, didn't it? Maybe while Terry was fighting the JLU in the ice cavern, there was not enough light to enhance the green hue of the rock and the ice made it appear a silverish color. I don't know. Just an idea.

[Naraht]

Originally posted by Kal-el

Yeah, and that complicated killing machine always has the one weakness that the hero can use to make their escape (Batman and Robin tv show from the 60's anyone?)

I do remember the kryptonite looking silver in "The Call", but I wonder if that was just due to poor coloring or bad lighting. At times it did appear green, didn't it? Maybe while Terry was fighting the JLU in the ice cavern, there was not enough light to enhance the green hue of the rock and the ice made it appear a silverish color. I don't know. Just an idea.

Well...if it wasn't truely green, then it's a color shift...which magically changes Kryptonite's effects...

So I guess Silver/Green Kryptonite is the Knock Out Superman when he's attached to an evil alien kryptonite...

[Kal-el]

Hmmm. Maybe silver kryptonite was the color for the season...green might have been a fashion faux pas. Is it possible that the fashion guru's from Paris are actually a well-dressed and fashion conscious injustice gang of sorts? (there main foes are casually dressed people who don't care about wearing white after labor day)

Funny thing is, for as bad as Supes gets around kryptonite (not just recently, but for as long as Supes has been around), it's never killed him.

[SimonMoon5]

Originally posted by Kal-el
Funny thing is, for as bad as Supes gets around kryptonite (not just recently, but for as long as Supes has been around), it's never killed him.

Except in the Imaginary Story, "The Death of Superman," which was one of the best Superman stories ever.

Other Kryptonians have been killed by kryptonite, though.

[Lee]

Watched that episode the other day. It was a sliver, but it wasn't silver.

[DR. BELCH]

Maybe it was just a trick of the light. I'm presuming kryptonite is a smooth reflective rock, like mica.

Now I'm told there are innumerable colors of kryptonite with varying effects. Basic green=weakness/death. Red=evil Superman. Blue=he grows gills like a fish? Another type, I forget what=can cause him to morph unexpectedly. What next, brown kryptonite that gives Supes a horrendous case of the Hershey squirts? ;)

[Karkull]

From what I recall, being exposed to kryptonite for a short period of time weakens him to the point where he can be hurt by bullets, fists, a kick in the crotch, etc...but he has to remain in proximity to the kryptonite or else he slowly recovers.

Extended exposure to kryptonite will kill him (remember in Brave New Metropolis, when Luthor referred to his "poisoned green carcass," a Kryptonian corpse [killed by kryptonite] turned green in the pre-Crisis).

[Toddman]

Let's see how did all of that goofy Silver Age Kryptonite work?

Green: causes weakness and the eventual last second escape from a death trap

Red: causes a different kind of mutation with each exposure (turns Supes into a pineapple or a robot or gives him a tail). The effects were not permanent.

Gold: takes away superpowers FOREVER!

White: kills only plant life (wha-?!?)

Blue: kills only Bizarro (because everyone knows the opposite of green is blue of course)

and there was Jewel Kryptonite. I'm not sure what its special properties were, so if anyone can fill us in, please do.

Toddman

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Toddman

and there was Jewel Kryptonite. I'm not sure what its special properties were, so if anyone can fill us in, please do.

Toddman

Eliminates your ability to write good poetry?

[The Guard]

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Karkull]

I got the majority of this information from DC's Who's Who books:

Green Kryptonite
Green kryptonite can weaken any superpowered Kryptonian on exposure to its rays. Prolonged exposure can cause blood poisoning, which will eventually cause death (and turn the skin green).

Anti-Kryptonite
A green kryptonite isotope, it harms only non-superpowered Kryptonians.

(I also think that this kryptonite is the source of Ultraman's powers [Crime Syndicate]).

X-Kryptonite
Another isotope, this kryptonite gives Earth creatures temporary superpowers.

Red Kryptonite
Originally green kryptonite, red kryptonite was altered by energy clouds in that they passed through in space (pre-Crisis). Each piece of red kryptonite has its own unpredictable effect on Kryptonians.

Red kryptonite has found its way into the post-Crisis DC Universe. In the pages of JLA, Batman created red kryptonite by subjecting green kryptonite to a series of experiments designed to mute the deadly effects of the rock, but make it painful (as a last resort if Superman ever turned rogue). Like its pre-Crisis counterpart, its effects are unpredictable.

White Kryptonite
White kryptonite kills plant life, Kryptonian or otherwise.

Blue Kryptonite
Blue kryptonite harms Bizzaro as its green counterpart harms Superman.

Gold Kryptonite
Gold kryptonite can permently rob a Kryptonian of his/her powers.

Jewel Kryptonite
Jewel kryptonite gives Phantom Zone prisoners mental powers that allow them to affect things outside the Zone.


Of course, only green kryptonite (and the red form listed above) exist in the current continuity.

[SimonMoon5]

Originally posted by Karkull
I got the majority of this information from DC's Who's Who books:

Anti-Kryptonite
A green kryptonite isotope, it harms only non-superpowered Kryptonians.

(I also think that this kryptonite is the source of Ultraman's powers [Crime Syndicate]).

Of course, only green kryptonite (and the red form listed above) exist in the current continuity.

The major appearance of Anti-Kryptonite occurred when Argo City survived the destruction of Krypton thanks to the preparations of Zor-El who had a dome put over the city. However, the ground of the city started to turn into kryptonite, meaning Argo City's populace was still doomed. They delayed things for a while, by covering the ground in sheets of lead. Zor-El rocketed his daughter, Kara Zor-El to Earth, where she became known as Supergirl. The only problem with this story is that it is well known that kryptonite only affects powered Kryptonians not unpowered Kryptonians such as the Argo City natives. To explain this, it was said that Argo City turned into Anti-Kryptonite instead of regular Green Kryptonite.

As far as Ultraman goes, he has always been powered up by the same Green Kryptonite that will cause Superman problems.


Red Kryptonite existed in current continuity once before Batman made it, when Mr. Mxyzptlk created some which removed Superman's powers during the Krisis of the Krimson Kryptonite.

Silver Age style Kryptonite has also been seen during occasional Hypertime stories, as well as in the Pocket Universe. In the Pocket Universe, the Silver Age Kryptonite had no effect on the modern-continuity Superman.

[SimonMoon5]

Originally posted by Toddman
Blue: kills only Bizarro (because everyone knows the opposite of green is blue of course)


As Seinfeld tried to tell people on the episode devoted to Bizarros, Bizarros aren't just opposites. They don't say "Badbye".
They just do things... differently.

[Naraht]

Red Kryptonite also apeared in Lois & Clark...it made him bad or something..maybe it gave him headaches....I watched to see Teri Hatcher...cause she's hot!