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enigmatic_one
09-22-2005, 08:58 PM
One thing I'm a little wary of in this new season is the political implications that seem to be popping up (Okay, I'm not really wary but it caught my attention and thought it might make an interesting topic for discussion).

In Justice League (Limited), it seemed to be established that the JL was an international league there to help the whole world, hense the space outpost. This idea was furthered when the show went Unlimited and it seems that heros of all nationalities are gathered in this large team to protect the world (most recently we've seen Fire, a Brazillian). Several episodes featured in other countries around the world help promote this further.

However now, we suddenly see the Justice League having a liason with the goverment, the American goverment. We also see their new Earth set headquarters (the Metro-Tower) in America also (probably Metropolis). Now I understand that all these heros are originally set in the States (heck, the comic was originally JL of America), and this is by no means a fan complaint. However, wouldn't the various nations of the world see these actions as a direct sign of bias towards America by the JL. Some might even see it as a potential threat, a sign that the JL would align themselves with the States in a potential war effort. Now, maybe they have liasons and headquarters all over the world, but from wheat we've seen so far, it doesn't look like this was thought out very well from a diplomatic point of view.

Horribley unimportant, of course, but interesting to ponder anyway. Any thoughts?

~Enigmatic One

Silly McGooses
09-22-2005, 09:13 PM
I don't think it's anything intentional. I mean, the writers pretty much grew up in America and the show is pretty much set in America, the characters are largely American and all of them were created in America, some people consider America to be the sole "superpower" country in the world...it just must have seemed to make sense at the time to the writer. Not that I'm saying the show is devoid of political commentary...I think we got a lot of that underlying in seasons one and two.

enigmatic_one
09-22-2005, 09:27 PM
I think we got a lot of that underlying in seasons one and two.
Yeah, I felt that too, which just makes it a bit puzzling to me that they would now seem to go back to the "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" way. Again, I'm nopt complaining, it just struck me as interesting.

~Enigmatic One

dlb
09-22-2005, 09:53 PM
However, wouldn't the various nations of the world see these actions as a direct sign of bias towards America by the JL. Some might even see it as a potential threat, a sign that the JL would align themselves with the States in a potential war effort. Now, maybe they have liasons and headquarters all over the world, but from wheat we've seen so far, it doesn't look like this was thought out very well from a diplomatic point of view.
~Enigmatic OneWell, in the real world the United Nations, like the league an non-government/internationalist body set up to preserve peace and order (albeit with a lackluster record compared to the league), is located in America, and I've not heard any complaints of that body being biased in favour of the USA. Most complaints regarding its supposed bias are quite the opposite.

Ed Liu
09-22-2005, 10:02 PM
Howdy,

Didn't Superman or some other Leaguer talk about "embassies" stationed throughout the world in the penultimate episode of the last season? I just assumed that the new Earthbound Watchtower may be global HQ, but that there were other comparable facilities in other countries around the world.

-- Ed/Ace

LeatherWings
09-22-2005, 11:17 PM
Yeah if there was a war I bet the JLU would be there own little army and take down all the nation, so you don't have to worry about that one. As for it being most likely in Metropolis, well they have to keep an eye of the government, since Luthor almost became president and all, and since most of the over seas estates take place in US or England, it makes sense and all, also Metroplois is on the eats coast and a major city, so it doesn't really bother me.Plus in the comics they were the JLA, and they're were others across the world, so mayeb thats just the base for a few of the members, who knows.

Trevor Balena
09-23-2005, 07:38 AM
Howdy,

Didn't Superman or some other Leaguer talk about "embassies" stationed throughout the world in the penultimate episode of the last season? I just assumed that the new Earthbound Watchtower may be global HQ, but that there were other comparable facilities in other countries around the world.

-- Ed/Ace
No, he mentioned that the League "could open an embassy on Earth, so [they] could be closer to the people". Singular.

The Weed Of Cri
09-23-2005, 11:17 AM
Let's face it, how many countries in the world would welcome an outfit like the Justice League operating within its borders, especially considering last season's events? Would China lay out the red (no pun intended) carpet to a legion of superhumans dedicated to "justice"? What would the Muslim world think of Wonder Woman (or Captain Atom!)? Cosidering that the original seven Leaguers contained only three native-born Americans (although we could surely make a case for Superman being a naturalized citizen), you could make the argument that the League has a higher percentage of Americans in it than it did at its inception, so the United States is the natural choice for an Earthbound headquarters.

Style
09-23-2005, 11:36 AM
The Metro Tower has been compared to the United Nations building, which is in New York in real life, (And the DCAU equivalent, the "World Assembly" is in Metropolis.) So if New York/Metropolis is considered a center for international diplomacy, it makes sense to put the Metrotower embassy in the same city to promote the same ideals.

Ian
09-23-2005, 02:15 PM
And the DCAU equivalent, the "World Assembly" is in Metropolis.Isn't everything?

Edited to add: In retrospect, that was one of the little temptations I should just avoid.

GregX
09-23-2005, 02:20 PM
Isn't everything?

Edited to add: In retrospect, that was one of the little temptations I should just avoid.
They should have built it in Gotham City.

enigmatic_one
09-23-2005, 02:23 PM
The Metro Tower has been compared to the United Nations building, which is in New York in real life, (And the DCAU equivalent, the "World Assembly" is in Metropolis.) So if New York/Metropolis is considered a center for international diplomacy, it makes sense to put the Metrotower embassy in the same city to promote the same ideals.
Okay, yes, but that doesn't explain the fact that the JL has an American goverment liason. If I was, say, Russia and suddenly saw this elite force of superhumans having direct links with the US, I would be a little concerned.

~Enigmatic One

Gorthaur
09-23-2005, 03:19 PM
Okay, yes, but that doesn't explain the fact that the JL has an American goverment liason. If I was, say, Russia and suddenly saw this elite force of superhumans having direct links with the US, I would be a little concerned.

~Enigmatic OneI can accept that, since they are going to be working in the US most of the time, it's the US government liaison that's likewise going to be most pertinent to the stories. Clearly, the JLU had some relations to other world governments in the first two seasons, and I don't believe that has changed, even if they have been moved a bit further into the background.

Stewie
09-23-2005, 04:45 PM
The embassy was suggested as means to prevent conflict escalation between the JLU and Earth. So the United States is the only country that needs an embassy. It's the only country that has gone to war with the JLU. No other country has so far felt as threatened by the JLU to go to the lengths that elements of the US government did.

adoptedBatpuppy
09-23-2005, 05:00 PM
I don't think it's anything intentional. I mean, the writers pretty much grew up in America and the show is pretty much set in America, the characters are largely American and all of them were created in America, some people consider America to be the sole "superpower" country in the world...it just must have seemed to make sense at the time to the writer. Not that I'm saying the show is devoid of political commentary...I think we got a lot of that underlying in seasons one and two.
I don't think all of the heroes on JLU are American, some came from other countries too. :yawn:

Trevor Balena
09-23-2005, 05:33 PM
I don't think all of the heroes on JLU are American, some came from other countries too. :yawn:
That's why he said the characters are "largely American".