New WF Opening: Good or Bad?

[Darth Vader]

What do you think of this?
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/dka.jpg (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/dka/)

I personally dislike it with a passion. Why must the British Flag be behind the Batman logo? Was Bob Kane british? I don't believe so. Therefore, unless this comic is now the British-version of Batman, why put such a provocative/enraging emblem behind something that was considered to be UNIVERSAL?

Batman could be for anybody, but now somebody put the British flag there, as if implying that Batman is British! This is an outrage! Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the British, but what they have done makes me think that they think the universe circles around them!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

This should be changed... now.

However, the comic could be Batman in Britain, in which case I won't read it and you can disregard what I have said. But if not, if it is the Batman we know and love, then the patriotic British person should change that so that everyone can enjoy it, not just him/her.

[Bird Boy]

I think there's a British flag in the DKA banner because the Cover Artist, Artist, Writer and Colorist are all in the UK.

Or Batman is in Britain, I really don't know. I'm just the webmaster on DKA. :p

In any case...calm down. It's not a big deal and this isn't the thread (forum or site) to start "calling out" those who live in the UK. Quite a few of the staff and members here live in the UK, so please...watch the tone.

-BB

[The Flash]

Batman could be for anybody, but now somebody put the British flag there, as if implying that Batman is British! This is an outrage! Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the British, but what they have done makes me think that they think the universe circles around them!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

This should be changed... now.


My, my. Who died and made you king? Or would that be queen? Naw - president maybe?

First off, calm down!

That's an ADVERTISEMENT for the upcoming DARK KNIGHT ADVENTURES STORY ARC which takes place in ENGLAND. Get it? Don't get your pants in a wad. It's just an advert for a comic book. That's all it is. There is no subliminal message.

Perhaps you should have asked what it was before you blew up?

And why the apparent hatred for our allies over seas? I'm proud to be American too, but I fail to see whats so wrong about a Batman story taking place in the UK. Even Batman: The Animated Series paid a visit to jolly old England. (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/episodes/LionAndTheUnicorn/)

[Reverend]

What do you think of this?
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/dka.jpg (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/dka/)

I personally dislike it with a passion. Why must the British Flag be behind the Batman logo? Was Bob Kane british? I don't believe so. Therefore, unless this comic is now the British-version of Batman, why put such a provocative/enraging emblem behind something that was considered to be UNIVERSAL?

Batman could be for anybody, but now somebody put the British flag there, as if implying that Batman is British! This is an outrage! Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the British, but what they have done makes me think that they think the universe circles around them!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

This should be changed... now.

However, the comic could be Batman in Britain, in which case I won't read it and you can disregard what I have said. But if not, if it is the Batman we know and love, then the patriotic British person should change that so that everyone can enjoy it, not just him/her.That'd be me and no, I won't change it, so there.


As BB pointed out it's an advert for the upcoming issue of DKA, not some evil plot to claim Batman for Blighty.
Although a cunning use of flags was how we nicked India, but that's a story for another time...
Why use the Union Jack? Well for a start I was afraid that the image of the Batwing speeding towards London (spot Big Ben if you can) might not be explicit enough to tell the readers that Brucey is indeed off to Merry Ole England and it’s all I could think of in the 10-15 minutes I spent putting the image together.

As for your last statement, I don't see how it's presence stops anyone other than myself from enjoying the story. Unless of course you're ridiculously xenophobic, which I'm sure you're not...are you?

[James]

I'm not sure if this is a call out to the British here.

Yeah, it's by a largely British group now, yeah it's Batman going to Britian, yeah it's just an advert for that story and yeah, you could have asked politely if this was a genuine concern.

If this is an issue about Brits being involved in an American character, bear in mind Bale is a Brit. Bear in mind that a great deal of the films were made in England. Heck, World's Finest is run by a Canadian - does that present a thread to how it deals with the subject of Batman? Of course not.

None of us have any interest in doing a Brit Batman. It has been done of course.. most recently by John Cleese in the Superman Elseworld, True Brit. Doesn't make it any less worthy.

However in the end, we are just fans giving to fans. We love Batman, and we've always hoped that deep down, we've helped keep interest in Batman and the cartoons... be it TNBA, BB, JLU whatever. It's all for fun and we've had literally millions of hits on that site. It's been very popular and while it now begins it's final chapter, I do hope we've helped keep the spirit of Batman alive and certainly not misrepresented it. Majority seem to think so, I'm sorry you do not. If the idea of Batman visiting UK offends so much then I suggest you don't read it. I would also recommend you avoid several episodes of BTAS, JL and the movies which have heavy British involvement.

It's not about nationality.. I had hoped as a community we were beyond such alienation. Batman is a character which has touched people internationally and I reckon Bob Kane would be still very proud of that success. We should embrace that communal spirit and not be so fearful of it.

[Darth Vader]

Like I said before, I have no problem with England. I have no problem with Batman speeding toward Big Ben -- that actually looks rather cool! I just don't like the British Colors in the DKA logo... at all. It kinda makes me think that it's a British comic, or a British-version of Batman, and that seems unfair to I who art not British.:p

I'm sure the story will be great, and I apologize for blowing up. If the advert is soon to change, then I have no problem at all. I just think that Batman is for everyone and not a selected group. I was afraid that this might become another "X-Men Excalibur" type site. I love DKA more than you can imagine, but I just want the logo to appeal to all, instead of just the British.;)

Anyone remember the Family Guy Episode where Stewie is taken into a foster family? Peter jumps down the chimney, landing in front of all the other foster children (who are from all over the world). Peter says, "I'm Santa. Just practicing for Christmas." Then a little Indian boy says, "You can't be Santa, you're white. Mama always told me that Santa was Indian." Then the African boy pipes up and says, "No, Santa is black!" And the Asian girl joins in with, "Don't be stupid, Santa is Asian." And pretty soon they're all fighting, with Stewie chanting as Peter takes him away "Dance, puppets! Dance!"

I just don't want this to turn out like that.:sweat:

[Bird Boy]

Heck, World's Finest is run by a Canadian - does that present a thread to how it deals with the subject of Batman? Of course not.

Hey...I'm not Canadian.

*hides from Jim* :D


Like I said before, I have no problem with England. I have no problem with Batman speeding toward Big Ben -- that actually looks rather cool! I just don't like the British Colors in the DKA logo... at all. It kinda makes me think that it's a British comic, or a British-version of Batman, and that seems unfair to I who art not British.:p

Well, did Mad Mod taking over Jump City in "Revolution" make it a British show or a British version of the Teen Titans? No, it was just a temporary setting.


I'm sure the story will be great, and I apologize for blowing up. If the advert is soon to change, then I have no problem at all. I just think that Batman is for everyone and not a selected group. I was afraid that this might become another "X-Men Excalibur" type site. I love DKA more than you can imagine, but I just want the logo to appeal to all, instead of just the British.;)

Well it appealed to me and I'm not British. I thought the banner was rather neat looking; I'm not sure when the advert will change, probably whenever Kris makes up another (which I'd imagine would be after the next issue, but that's only a guess on my part).

Batman's not going to start drinking tea and eating biscuits, I wouldn't worry about it.


Anyone remember the Family Guy Episode where Stewie is taken into a foster family? Peter jumps down the chimney, landing in front of all the other foster children (who are from all over the world). Peter says, "I'm Santa. Just practicing for Christmas." Then a little Indian boy says, "You can't be Santa, you're white. Mama always told me that Santa was Indian." Then the African boy pipes up and says, "No, Santa is black!" And the Asian girl joins in with, "Don't be stupid, Santa is Asian." And pretty soon they're all fighting, with Stewie chanting as Peter takes him away "Dance, puppets! Dance!"

I just don't want this to turn out like that.:sweat:

The day anything on World's Finest references or turns into something from a Family Guy episode is the day I leave.

-BB

[James]

I'm sure the story will be great, and I apologize for blowing up. If the advert is soon to change, then I have no problem at all. I just think that Batman is for everyone and not a selected group. I was afraid that this might become another "X-Men Excalibur" type site. I love DKA more than you can imagine, but I just want the logo to appeal to all, instead of just the British.;)
That's cool. No harm done in the end. Actually, the logo is to entice those who are NOT British. There are a LOT of anglo-philes out there, and it's more to them I see the promotion targetting.



Anyone remember the Family Guy Episode where Stewie is taken into a foster family? Peter jumps down the chimney, landing in front of all the other foster children (who are from all over the world). Peter says, "I'm Santa. Just practicing for Christmas." Then a little Indian boy says, "You can't be Santa, you're white. Mama always told me that Santa was Indian." Then the African boy pipes up and says, "No, Santa is black!" And the Asian girl joins in with, "Don't be stupid, Santa is Asian." And pretty soon they're all fighting, with Stewie chanting as Peter takes him away "Dance, puppets! Dance!"

Relax and give us a little credit. While I'm not trying to compare myself to these following great writers (just to nip any such retort in the bud), John Wagner - creator of The Ventriloquist - is British. Alan Moore (of the amazing The Killing Joke), Grant Morrison (of JLA fame), Mark Millar... all Brits who have written for Batman.. and not surcumbed too much to their national charm... and Chris Clairmount wrote Exclaibur set in Britian and did it VERY well IMO.

Point is, whether I place Batman in Britian or write about him in America, I do my very best to keep him very much as he should be. In fact, we all do. Kris is as a master at picking up characterization - and he's a Brit. He is a fantastic back up when it comes to refining the story so it reads... right. Considering both of us are Brits writing for characters set in a fictious US world and with no bottom spanks so far, surely we deserve a little more benefit of the doubt as to how we write Batman in Britain.. trust us, we have no interest in betraying who the character is. In my opinion, unlike Superman, Batman is great because his nationality is utterly irrelevant. His world is governed by a vow, not a nation.

Now that's cool - in a dark way, of course. :)

[Crow]

They win the Ashes for the first time in donkey's years and they think they can do anything!

[Nekoris]

I like it really, it's really nice. And it's a change since the first time I've been to the site. ^-^ So that's a "yes" from me.

[Alpha Man]

John Wagner - creator of The Ventriloquist - is British. Alan Moore (of the amazing The Killing Joke), Grant Morrison (of JLA fame), Mark Millar... all Brits who have written for Batman.. and not surcumbed too much to their national charm... and Chris Clairmount wrote Exclaibur set in Britian and did it VERY well IMO.Let's not forget Roddy McDowall, he's frickin brilliant! Though, I think no one really cares who he is or what he did, but he'll always have a special place in my heart...;)

As long as the logo is soon to change, I have no problem with it. Big Ben rocks!