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Captain Harlock
09-16-2005, 12:48 AM
Finally, an offical title and a real trailer using Ps3 technology. I'm all hyped up, how about everyone else! I know there's also a MGS4 thread on this page, but using the offical title of the game just sounds better now, especially that more details have been announced.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/preview_6133382.html



TOKYO--Fresh from the starting gate of the 2005 Tokyo Game Show, who wouldn't make a beeline straight for Konami's next-generation theater, in which is playing the first real trailer for the newly christened Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the PlayStation 3? Certainly not us. We saw the trailer just minutes ago and are happy to report on what looks like one epic stealth action game in the works at Kojima Productions.

The trailer begins with a slightly baffling clip of first-person gameplay, in which an unnamed soldier patrols through a war-torn, ruined city, with futuristic helicopters soaring overhead and the muted sounds of combat ringing in the background. The soldier spies a sleek figure darting behind cover off in the distance, but upon rounding the corner, there's nobody to be seen. All the while, the letters "FPS" are appearing on the screen, forming phrases like "Finally a Policy Shift?"--perhaps indicating that Metal Gear Solid 4 is in fact a shooter. But then the camera pulls back to reveal the soldier caught in the death grip of none other than Solid Snake, who proceeds to dispatch the hapless guard with characteristic aplomb. Then we're treated to the words we've hoped to see "Not FPS - MGS!"

Then again, this might not be the Snake you were expecting. The rumors are true: Solid Snake has gone gray, and he appears to be in his declining years in Metal Gear Solid 4. This time, there doesn't seem to be any question about the placement of the game on the series' timeline, since the trailer wastes no time in announcing that the game is set "X years after Big Shell," which puts it well after MGS2, chronologically the most recent Metal Gear game. After the little first-person fake-out, the trailer fully reveals Snake, still wearing his classic sneaking suit but deeply lined, grizzled, even sporting gray hair a rough-looking moustache. He's also got some kind of wicked-looking future eye patch. Shades of Big Boss? At least the mullet is intact.

After his auspicious introduction, Snake stalks through streets of the city, which has clearly been rendered unlivable by untold months or years of combat. He quickly ducks into the blasted-out shell of a nearby building in order to avoid the attention of an approaching caravan of foot soldiers accompanied by an imposing line of armored personnel carriers. Snake appears to be uncharacteristically intimidated by this advancing column, a point that's driven home by a title that flashes on the screen: "A new enemy created in battle." Matters only worsen as the procession approaches and it's revealed that a handful of small, bipedal Metal Gears, looking like smaller versions of the Rex model, are accompanying the troops.

As if matters aren't bad enough with this hellish enemy host right on the other side of the wall, Snake is clearly feeling his age. While he's remaining covert and attempting to formulate a plan, he's seized by a coughing spasm that doubles him over and nearly brings him to his knees. The only remedy is some sort of advanced injection system, which he delivers directly to his jugular vein and which seems to cure him temporarily. He then engages his eye patch, which we can see is actually labeled the "Solid Eye System," and we get a glimpse of Snake's own enhanced perspective, which is overlaid with a busy tactical display analyzing the armament and threat level of every major target in the area.

But Snake's not just the watcher--he's also being watched, as we see him brought into the bsights of some sort of unseen robotic entity. As the potential attacker rolls up behind him and he whirls around, bringing his rifle to bear, we find that it's just a small, rather cute little robot with a screen on the side bearing none other than the image of Otacon. Yet, Otacon looks to have aged very little since MGS2. Has he been drinking at the fountain of youth? Or could it be that Solid Snake's genetically engineered background may have accelerated his aging, made him sick, and rendered him dependent on drugs to maintain his health? This will certainly be one of many mysteries yet to be revealed in MGS4.

Snake and Otacon then exchange a few pleasantries and agree that it's time to move on, but not before the little robot hands Snake a few clips to load into his advanced, modular assault rifle. It's at this point that Snake lights up his trademark cigarette and heads off through the city, little Otacon robot in tow, as he embarks on whatever his latest (and possibly last?) mission is. It's at this point that the full title of the game--Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots--is revealed, tying the game indelibly to the ending of Metal Gear Solid 2 and, indeed, the overarching storyline of the entire series. Devotees of Kojima's long-running stealth action epic will surely be fanatically interested in where the twisting storyline is going next, and we recently got a small taste of MGS4's gameplay and storyline courtesy of Famitsu magazine.

We don't need to tell you that Guns of the Patriots looks utterly incredible--the screenshots certainly speak for themselves--and unlike some other PS3 games shown back at E3, we can say with confidence that enough aliasing and pixellated textures were evident in this trailer to indicate that it was running smoothly in real-time. This is pretty much one of the best-looking games we've ever seen. Whether or not this footage warrants such a grandiose statement will soon be for you to decide--it's reported that Kojima Productions will post the trailer itself on the MGS4 site at the close of TGS' first day, just a few hours from now. We await further details on this game with baited breath, and will bring them to you as soon as we have them.


Solid Snake's toughest battle yet. I'm super excited. My Metal Gear hype meter is through the roof right now. This game is flat out gorgeous.

Scirel
09-16-2005, 12:56 AM
http://tallah.org/video/mgs4.wmv

zomg trailer.

Captain Harlock
09-16-2005, 01:07 AM
http://tallah.org/video/mgs4.wmv

zomg trailer.

If I were wearing socks, they'd be literally knocked off.

Scirel
09-16-2005, 01:10 AM
It`s hard to imagine how graphics could get better than that. The trailer said that was in engine too.

The New Gear making that huge leap gave me goosebumps.

What I would really like to see is one scene where you seea huge war with gears fighting other gear, or even getting to use one yourself for a point in the game.

Personally can`t wait to see how the years have treated Raiden.

Captain Harlock
09-16-2005, 01:13 AM
Personally can`t wait to see how the years have treated Raiden.

Raiden has to be an important part of the game. Snake is so old, he needs all the help he can get. The idea I have for Raiden is that it would be his time to become the ninja. He had the HF Blade afterall. Snake needs an ally with the stealth camo, so Ninja Raiden would be great.

Juu-kuchi
09-16-2005, 01:38 AM
Is it just me or does Old Snake look like J.K. Simmons as J Jonah Jameson.

If that is the case maybe it should be J.K. doing the role of Snake instead of David Hayter then.

Strollymonster
09-16-2005, 01:52 AM
Very nice FMV, as always to be expected of an MGS game.

I'd just like to know what the in-game looks like, but it'll still be great.

email2003
09-16-2005, 02:00 AM
Is anyones jaw still open, hit the ground and can't be closed right now!?

MGS4 is already, and can be said, THE BEST PS3 GAME OF THE YEAR! The freakin' game isn't even out and already I'm impressed. The PS3 is sure to be the next, powerful console and MGS4 can prove it.

What was the deal with Snake feeling pain!? Is he dying!? Could it be Fox Die!?

PTurkey
09-16-2005, 02:51 AM
Well that certainly was one of the greatest trailers I've ever seen.

It seems all the years of smoking have given Snake Chronic Bronchitis. That man really should get on the patch.

I ain't feelin' the moustache, man. It looks too Saddam.

G1Ravage
09-16-2005, 04:15 AM
Wow...Otacon looks freakishly realistic.

Peter Paltridge
09-16-2005, 04:24 AM
I love Kojima-brand trailers. "THIS AIN'T NO FPS! THIS IS MGS!" I wish he could mess with our minds more often. :D

ShadowGUN
09-16-2005, 07:21 AM
Awsome trailer. Damn you Kojima why must you play mind games with us :mad:. "The Guns of the Patriots" awesome title but I wonder who the guns are?
BTW I didn't saw Raiden in the trailer Kojima mention that he would appear there and be cool now. Could another trailer of MGS4 be shown during the weekend:confused:

Frank Castle
09-16-2005, 07:46 AM
"The Guns of the Patriots" awesome title but I wonder who the guns are?
Reeeeeeeevvvvoooooooolllllvverrrr Ocelot.

Rook
09-16-2005, 08:56 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/screens.html?page=9

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/screens.html?page=8

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/screens.html?page=11

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/screens.html?page=10

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/screens.html?page=7

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/screens.html?page=6l

Cuz its im too lazy to hyperlink the rest... (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/screenindex.html)

Lord Dalek
09-16-2005, 11:17 AM
Dramatic twist in the game will probably be that Snake isn't some geezer and that was Ocelot we saw in the trailer. :p

ZeroFate
09-16-2005, 02:02 PM
Kojima is a genius. I can't believe how amazing that game looks. Controlling Metal Mark II seems like it's gonna add an awesome twist to the gameplay. I loved how they made the beginning seem like a FPS and then BAM you're hit with Metal Gear goodness.


Very nice FMV, as always to be expected of an MGS game.

I'd just like to know what the in-game looks like, but it'll still be great. Non of the Metal Gear games have ever had any pre-rendered scenes or CG, I doubt they'll change it with this game. This is all real time boys. I wonder if people still doubt the Killzone footage from E3? This pretty much proves that could be done and then some.

The next gen is gonna be so amazing. Now all Kojima has to do is get off his ass and make Zone of the Enders 3. :p

Roman Legion
09-16-2005, 02:10 PM
I wonder if people still doubt the Killzone footage from E3? This pretty much proves that could be done and then some.Ahh, no. You need to look more closely at the MGS4 and Killzone stills. Bit of a difference, if you know what to look for.

Of course, the MGS4 shots are still impressive, but it looks much more in line with what I'd expect of next gen graphics than that Killzone footage... Heck, check out the nasty aliasing going on, here. Ick.

EDIT: Let's compare... MGS4 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/screens.html?page=7) vs Killzone (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/screens.html?page=3)
Yep, I'm gonna stick with the latter being prerendered.

--Romey

ShadowGUN
09-16-2005, 02:22 PM
http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/japanese/mgs4_04.html


Looking at Konami 's website it appears that there really is another trailer coming in the weekend. Notice it say "TGS 2005 Trailers"l. Guess we will find out tonight.

King_of_doom
09-16-2005, 02:34 PM
Like i said before cant wait to play this game and see what happens to Snake if this is his last mission.

mookie75
09-16-2005, 11:59 PM
It should be an interesting game to say the least. MGS has never disappointed me...even in the lesser moments in MGS2.

I have to say that I really really don't like the moustache. I suppose I could hope they lose it for the U.S. version, but they probably won't. :p It was weird to hear Snake without David Hayter as the voice.

I'm hoping the next teaser will show us a little Ocelot or something.

Sailor Chibi Otaku
09-18-2005, 12:44 AM
Dramatic twist in the game will probably be that Snake isn't some geezer and that was Ocelot we saw in the trailer. :p^ Agreed, considering the other trailer he and his crew did. This new one is a COMPLETE revamp.

If the new trailer is to be part of the final product, I want David back as Snake, no matter how much older Snake gets.

I want Snake Eater so BAD!!

Artimus Gigan
09-18-2005, 01:04 AM
Ocelot wouldn't be too far fetched...I mean he does have Liquids arm which did takeover his body for a bit...prehaps it's also causing his DNA to reshape and look more Snake like...