Bleach 195. Current manga discussion. *MAJOR SPOILERS!* [Archive] - Page 6

Mr. Obsession

09-26-2008, 08:18 PM

Heh. Komamura not only stops Po's released attack barehanded, but then throws him like a ragdoll. Then smashes him with his even bigger bankai.

Wow. I was NOT expecting Komamura to be that...powerful. This chapter seemed really short for some reason, although maybe it was because of the giant pages? Pretty cool stuff though~You know, I never understood why so many fans don't think much of Komamura's abilities.

The dude dwarfs Kenpachi of all people, who is already huge by Bleach standards. Plus Kenpachi said he was enjoying their fight (e.i. Komamura was holding his own against Kenpachi) until he left. Shortly afterwards when he appeared at the execution grounds he was going to take on Aizen, Gin, and Tosen all at the same time, by himself, right after having fought Kenpachi and with no visible damage to show from that fight. On top of that he was able to see through Aizen's "perfect illusion" (by not react), and survived Aizen's failed instant death spell with no medical attention. Komamura's damage soak must be insane.

He's a captain for a reason.

And yes, I agree with you on the second point. All these post pendulum chapters have seemed shorter than usual.

Iba, dude, i think thats the first time i ever saw a shinigami attemp to run away from a fight just cause the opponent was stronger, no wonder he never got far in squad 11 (that just dont fly there).Maki-Maki (11th Squad) was more than willing to run away rather than get in a fight with Mayuri. Not that I blame him.

Iba's shown he has the heart of the 11th Squad in him (whishing he had gotten the chance to fight Ichigo), I think he's just a little more level headed than most. Iba just witnessed Po defeat Ikkaku, someone he already knows he can't beat. Besides everything Iba has done so far as a shinigami has been for his mother, I don't think dying against an opponent he has no chance of winning against is high on his list of priorities.

kaine23

09-26-2008, 08:59 PM

Sheesh, regarding how Po looks during his release, it appears Kubo's back on crack.
Just discovering this?

KOMAMURA SMASH!!

Captain Highwind

09-26-2008, 10:12 PM

Iba, dude, i think thats the first time i ever saw a shinigami attemp to run away from a fight just cause the opponent was stronger, no wonder he never got far in squad 11 (that just dont fly there).

Since Iba's one of my favorite squad members, in his defense I will say that he was just getting out of Komomura's way.

garfield15

09-26-2008, 10:22 PM

Since Iba's one of my favorite squad members, in his defense I will say that he was just getting out of Komomura's way.

That's okay highwind. We know you're in denial.

Captain Highwind

09-26-2008, 10:24 PM

That's okay highwind. We know you're in denial.

To the naked eye, it may seem... >.>

Iba's a brillant strategist!

Really.

Just drink all day and let your captain do what he needs to do.

warnerbroman

09-26-2008, 11:30 PM

did the guy just turn in to a whale?

thenewme93

09-27-2008, 11:09 AM

Jeez........just when I forgot about Komumora he comes in and shows us all why he's a captain..

thenewme93

09-27-2008, 11:29 AM

Does anyone know what happened to Grimmjow?

XOMiss_Samantha

09-27-2008, 01:48 PM

Does anyone know what happened to Grimmjow?

I was wondering that aswel. I don't believe he died, but I don't know where he ran off too either D:

Rud

09-27-2008, 02:17 PM

what i wana know is where Yammy disapeared too, its not like hes injured like Grimmjaw or anything so i dont see why he isnt at the at the big battle with the captains or helping Ulquiora.

Scirel

09-27-2008, 07:31 PM

what i wana know is where Yammy disapeared too, its not like hes injured like Grimmjaw or anything so i dont see why he isnt at the at the big battle with the captains or helping Ulquiora.
probably going to serve as a way to slow down the rest of the group so ichigo can fight him alone.

thenewme93

09-27-2008, 08:10 PM

Man..and the thing is Grimmjow was m,y favorite, too..besides Ichigo, Hitsugaya, and Renji.

Mett

09-27-2008, 09:49 PM

Since the Espada's minions were beat, I wonder if were about to see Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra, or that old man espada vs. another captain.

Rocketboy

10-01-2008, 04:33 PM

328

Iba and Komamura know about Ikkaku's bankai, and Yama-jii declares that the real battles will begin.

Mr. Obsession

10-01-2008, 04:52 PM

Ha! Awesome. Ikkaku lost a fight protecting a secret that wasn't so secret after all.

I wonder how many people have actually known and for how long.

Captain Highwind

10-01-2008, 10:10 PM

I wonder how many people have actually known and for how long.

Everybody!

*Ikkaku goes into withdrawal and assumes the fetal position*

Rocketboy

10-02-2008, 01:10 AM

Also, 35's cover has been released, proving that SS has a terrible, terrible dental plan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/lordkefka/836.jpg

thenewme93

10-02-2008, 05:16 PM

Maybe he just has gold teeth put in there..

XOMiss_Samantha

10-02-2008, 05:29 PM

Maybe he just has gold teeth put in there..

So Mayuri has grillz now...I bet he goes and gets 'crunk' every Friday.

thenewme93

10-02-2008, 05:30 PM

Hey, I wqas just trying to be optimistic and given the fact that a lot of the captains dress stylish in the human world...:p

ShadowGUN

10-03-2008, 08:25 AM

Iba talk to Ikkaku was right on the money. He really shouldn't have hide his bankai to protect himself. let hope he learn from this and doesn't hold back next time.

Well look like next chapters will be epic melee: Captains and Liutenants vs Espadas :cool: . Can't wait.

FlyByNite77

10-03-2008, 08:44 AM

Captain Highwind

10-03-2008, 09:05 AM

Iba talk to Ikkaku was right on the money. He really shouldn't have hide his bankai to protect himself.

I believe he was actually doing it so that he wouldn't be promoted to Captain. He wants to stay as Kenpchi's subordinate.

328

I knew it was only a matter of time before Matsumoto sparred with Conan Barbarian girl.

WolfieKiwi

10-03-2008, 12:03 PM

Also, 35's cover has been released, proving that SS has a terrible, terrible dental plan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/lordkefka/836.jpg

Higher than the...moon? /stifles laughter

On a side note, the cover art for Chapter 328 is especially nice.

XOMiss_Samantha

10-03-2008, 01:00 PM

I <3 the Bleach colored pages, especially when it has characters in normal human clothing. I adore Renji's weird personal style.
Onto the actual chapter, Iba is completely right. Ikkaku had orders to protect the pillar, and even if it means squashing your pride in the process, you make sure you do everything in your power to accomplish the task. Seeing him being called a fool in such a cold way was awesome.

"That is what it means to stick to your guns"

Next week looks pretty promising :]

Mr. Obsession

10-03-2008, 04:38 PM

Komamura gets awesome points, Iba gets awesome points, and the remaining fraccion are about to be slaughtered. As much as I want to get back to Ichigo or see the remaining Espada fight some captains, these diversionary chapters have still be quite satisfying.

Stark (who will apparently be taking on Shunsui AND Ukitake, hell yes!) restraining Lilinette in the ending had me laughing.

Also, I love it when Hitsugaya and Matsumoto get to play of each other.

Also, 35's cover has been released, proving that SS has a terrible, terrible dental plan.Considering that Unohaha is Soul Society's Surgeon General, I'm going to guess that Mayuri did that himself. Just because he's freaking Mayuri.

Besides it could be worse. In Heuco Mundo the only medical choice you have is Szayel. D=

I believe he was actually doing it so that he wouldn't be promoted to Captain. He wants to stay as Kenpchi's subordinate.He was. And with three empty captain positions it's a reasonable assumption, until you consider that everyone knows Renji has bankai and he hasn't been promoted yet. I'm betting that this is going to lead to Ikkaku getting another fight at some future point where he'll use his bankai in front of everyone to redeem himself.

At this point I'm going to assume that everyone who is in, or has been in, the 11th division has figured out that Ikkaku has bankai and that they're just humoring him.

garfield15

10-03-2008, 05:32 PM

Besides it could be worse. In Heuco Mundo the only medical choice you have is Szayel. D=

Random Arrancar: Hey doc, my throat's been hurting a little
Szayel: Well you'll need a special enema for that
Arrancar: Yeah I...wait, what?
Szayel: I'll get the cream.

thenewme93

10-04-2008, 12:27 PM

Random Arrancar: Hey doc, my throat's been hurting a little
Szayel: Well you'll need a special enema for that
Arrancar: Yeah I...wait, what?
Szayel: I'll get the cream.

LOL...What are they gonna do now that he's dead

kaine23

10-04-2008, 12:58 PM

At this point I'm going to assume that everyone who is in, or has been in, the 11th division has figured out that Ikkaku has bankai and that they're just humoring him.
I would think so if the 2nd movie was canon.

XOMiss_Samantha

10-04-2008, 01:28 PM

Besides it could be worse. In Heuco Mundo the only medical choice you have is Szayel. D=

What! I'd play doctor with him anyday. *Huge Szayel fan* So what he's 99.999% gay? Makes for great Doujin! And I miss him terribly ;_;

Rocketboy

10-05-2008, 01:09 AM

Speaking of Szyeal, are we to assume that his last appearance where he's saying he wants to die takes place in the future? If so, do the hollows just leave him alone?

Captain Highwind

10-10-2008, 11:30 AM

329

lol at Stark's fighting mentality.

It's like grade school P.E. all over again.

garfield15

10-10-2008, 11:40 AM

It's like grade school P.E. all over again.

Kill everyone or you fail? Yep, It's dodgeball all over again.

Captain Highwind

10-10-2008, 11:41 AM

Kill everyone or you fail? Yep, It's dodgeball all over again.

Oh no, I was meaning the "pretend your playing the game until it's time to leave" tactic.

garfield15

10-10-2008, 11:43 AM

Oh no, I was meaning the "pretend your playing the game until it's time to leave" tactic.

Ooooooh the, "Maybe if I move around a bit, I'll look like I'm doing something" bit, right?

MezzoDragon

10-10-2008, 12:35 PM

Stark has to be the laziest Espada ever. Also, I can understand why Lillette got upset at being called a kid. She is part of the war. Why must she wait on the sidelines?

On another note, what will happen to Captain Hitsugaya? He is fighting one of the top 3 Espada. He will obviously use Bankai, but will that even work on Habiel? She may catch a cold, and nothing else.

Rud

10-10-2008, 03:33 PM

i dont expect Hitsugaya to beat halibel, i think the Shinigami will fight a loosing battle until the Vizard, Urahara and the dark skined girl who turns to a cat rescues them. Though the old man will probably win withought any help.

XOMiss_Samantha

10-10-2008, 05:12 PM

Not gunna lie... I kinda like Stark XD He even LOOKS kinda like Shunsui too.

FlyByNite77

10-10-2008, 06:50 PM

garfield15

10-10-2008, 06:59 PM

Is Hitsugaya really on the level of the 2nd or 3rd strongest Espada In Halibel?

He hasn't exactly been dominating in his previous arrancar fights and I don't think Halibel looks like someone who will be as sloppy and overconfident as Luppi.

Hasn't he lost every canon fight he's been in? (oh yeah, he did beat that one arrancar but he was having a hard time with his limiter on)

Aizen

10-11-2008, 09:08 PM

Hasn't he lost every canon fight he's been in? (oh yeah, he did beat that one arrancar but he was having a hard time with his limiter on)
Well he's only really fought that Arrancar and Aizen...
Luppi fight was stopped so doesn't count.
By the way, does this mean that Soi Fong is a weak captain cause she is only fighting one fraccion, and Matsumoto is fighting 3...

thenewme93

10-11-2008, 09:31 PM

Dammit..I've reached the conclusion that Hitsugaya is the Vegeta of this series..losing every fight unless the opponent is a minor threat..

Aizen

10-11-2008, 11:20 PM

Dammit..I've reached the conclusion that Hitsugaya is the Vegeta of this series..losing every fight unless the opponent is a minor threat..
Its not like he can't win you know...

GWOtaku

10-12-2008, 12:13 AM

The only time Hitsugaya really got dominated was against Aizen, and he dominated everybody, so I don't think that really counts against everybody's favorite white-haired boy.

Mett

10-12-2008, 12:29 AM

I believe he was actually doing it so that he wouldn't be promoted to Captain. He wants to stay as Kenpchi's subordinate.
.

Renji didnt get promoted and they know he can use his Bankai.

Captain Highwind

10-12-2008, 08:42 AM

Renji didnt get promoted and they know he can use his Bankai.

They still state this as his reasoning in the manga.

I guess Kratos Bankai > than Snake Bankai, and thus Kratos Bankia is more likely to get promotion.

Which makes sense because Renji gets beat down waaay too much in Bankai form.

garfield15

10-12-2008, 09:37 AM

They still state this as his reasoning in the manga.

I guess Kratos Bankai > than Snake Bankai, and thus Kratos Bankia is more likely to get promotion.

Which makes sense because Renji gets beat down waaay too much in Bankai form.

Has Renji ever won a canon fight?

Captain Highwind

10-12-2008, 10:02 AM

Has Renji ever won a canon fight?

No, but I'm sure everyone appreciates how he softens up the opponent for them at the expense of his health and well-being.

Good going Renji!

Neo Ultra Mike

10-12-2008, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by garfield15
Has Renji ever won a canon fight?

Yeah, since like Hitsaguya he was able to defeat one of Grimmjow's Fraccion Granz the first time Grimmjow first Ichigo. Yeah he got help from Uruu and supposedley only was able to get a win because he surprised the guy when he showed his full power (which I think is just a bull excuse anyway considering how he would of been more of a match for Aporro if the guy didn't know how to take all of his attacks and they were just trying to make any Arrancar seem tough at the time) but he still killed him. So I guess that's something.

Also I remember hearing in an interview about Kubo that the reason Renji wasn't promoted or let to be a captain was because he didn't have the right "stuff" needed to be one since Captains are on a whole different level or something. Think the same would go for Ikkaku as well but he was just thickheaded enough to think Bankai= automatic captainship or something. Anyway I just hope we get to finally not only know the offical rankings of the top 3 Espada but some of they're actual skills. I don't think they'll be beaten yet but you never know for sure and at the very least seeing them against the Captains will show just if they really are stronger then them or something.

warnerbroman

10-12-2008, 04:09 PM

On another note, what will happen to Captain Hitsugaya? He is fighting one of the top 3 Espada. He will obviously use Bankai, but will that even work on Habiel? She may catch a cold, and nothing else.to me he's the luckiest kid(?) in the series

if only his lieutenant was strong enough to fight her

Anime Freak

10-13-2008, 02:16 PM

As for Renji, he uh well he beat...ichigo? no....Byakuya? no....Aizen? no....Luppi? no...Aporro Grantz? no wtf pwned completely...

so yeah Renji is pretty useless 9 out of 10 times ha :sweat:

Rocketboy

10-15-2008, 11:26 AM

330

Oh man, Omaeda sucks, Soi Fon rocks, and Matsumoto's funny.

MezzoDragon

10-15-2008, 12:54 PM

330

Oh man, Omaeda sucks, Soi Fon rocks, and Matsumoto's funny.
That is so true. Though, it is a shame Omaeda didn't prove his worth as a lieutenant. Perhaps next time.

garfield15

10-17-2008, 09:04 AM

Toushirou-Just look at his face. He's got that "I'm gonna kick your butt, you crazy arrancar" face
Rangiku-Pwnage all around. Could she have mastered her bankai? (I'm praying for it)
Omaeda-FAIL!
Soi Fong-God she's awesome. (gasps) She might actually kill someone in canon with Suzumebachi. Hell, she may even use her bankai. Though its not likely since she's fighting a Fraccion

Good chapter this week. And no two-page spread (I don't care how pretty they look, its wasting time.)

XOMiss_Samantha

10-17-2008, 02:29 PM

Poor Rangiku, having to fight one of the many annoyingly arrogant female characters of Bleach. ;_; We aren't all B***hs!

warnerbroman

10-17-2008, 04:18 PM

catfights everywhere:anime:....:D

ShadowGUN

10-24-2008, 08:25 AM

330

Oh man, Omaeda sucks, Soi Fon rocks, and Matsumoto's funny.

Like Omaeda said: "You shouldn't judge a book by it cover" :D .
It was pretty cool the way he took the mammoth Arrancar out. Looks like he does belong in the special forces after all.

MezzoDragon

10-24-2008, 08:38 AM

Omaeda double owned Mammon. First, he managed to defeat him with his Shikai. Second, he threw his own metaphor back into his face.

On another note, Soi Fon may not be as coldblooded as she seems to be. What Saberflats said was true. If she could truly 2-shot kill her, she should have. However, Soi Fon wasted the opportunity. Could there be a reason behind it? Aside from the release = death rule?

garfield15

10-24-2008, 09:01 AM

Hooooooooollly....

Omoeda, I was wrong...I was wrong wrong wrong wrong!

I mean, seriously, he pwned that guy

Rud

10-24-2008, 10:31 AM

no way, omoeda was faking it, i thought for sure hed just have to end up being saved by somebody.

MezzoDragon

10-24-2008, 12:05 PM

Perhaps he is similar to many other Shinigami: hiding their true strength until they absolutely need to use it. At least he proved himself worthy of his lieutenant title. The sad thing is it is going to take a while for this part to reach the anime.

By the way, why did Soi Fon hesitate to kill Saberflat (my nickname for the female Arrancar).

Captain Highwind

10-24-2008, 12:11 PM

By the way, why did Soi Fon hesitate to kill Saberflat (my nickname for the female Arrancar).

Is Soi Fon's stinger her bankai? If not, then maybe that's what she's going to use.

I'd say I'm tired of her ultra-powerful middle finger, but I just know the next step's going to be even more overpowered.

"My bankai spontaneously vaporizes whoever's image is in my mind! MWA HAH HAH HA~!"

garfield15

10-24-2008, 12:13 PM

Is Soi Fon's stinger her bankai? If not, then maybe that's what she's going to use.

I'd say I'm tired of her ultra powerful middle finger, but I just know the next step's going to be even more overpowered.

"My bankai dissintegrates whoever's image is in my mind! MWA HAH HAH HA~!"

As awesome (and overpowered) that would be, I'm thinking its going to be like a giant talking wasp or something along those lines.

That arrancar's real name is really annoying to pronounce

Baseball

10-24-2008, 05:26 PM

By the way, why did Soi Fon hesitate to kill Saberflat (my nickname for the female Arrancar).
Actually, I think Ggio's a dude.

XOMiss_Samantha

10-24-2008, 05:29 PM

Actually, I think Ggio's a dude.

I'm pretty sure he is a 'he' too. You can usually tell when they're female in Bleach (I think Rukia is the only one with out a chest XD). I got the impression it was a guy though.
On that note, good chapter. I never really liked Soi Fon but I guess I don't mind seeing her fight.

MezzoDragon

10-24-2008, 05:50 PM

I'm pretty sure he is a 'he' too. You can usually tell when they're female in Bleach (I think Rukia is the only one with out a chest XD). I got the impression it was a guy though.
On that note, good chapter. I never really liked Soi Fon but I guess I don't mind seeing her fight.
Why are the Japanese obsessed with making feminine-appearing guys? And, Soi Fon is another (adult) female character that is flat. If Ggio is a guy, then I hope Soi Fon kills him soon. I still cannot understand why she hestiated after pinning him (her?) onto the wall. She's suppose to be an assassin and a captain. Why hestitate?

Mr. Obsession

10-24-2008, 08:14 PM

So Omaeda's been playing stupid this whole time? O_o I did not see that coming, especially when his previous claim to fame was getting WTFPWN'd by Ichigo.

Well played, Kubo, well played.

Is Soi Fon's stinger her bankai? If not, then maybe that's what she's going to use.Nah, to use bankai they have to say "bankai." Instead every time she's used Suzumebachi, Soi Fon has used the shikai command "sting all enemies to death."

I'd say I'm tired of her ultra-powerful middle finger, but I just know the next step's going to be even more overpowered.Soi Fon isn't the only one with a hax shikai. Kira's immobilizes anything with enough hits. Yumichika's freaking eats you. Yamamoto burninates the countryside with an AoE right after the initial release. Tosen gets two separate abilities (as does Urahara), one of which renders an opponent unconscious. Mayuri's paralyzes you when stabbed. And of course we can't forget Aizen's deus ex shikai.

Scirel

10-26-2008, 05:12 PM

I`m personally waiting for the reason how Aizen will Succeed without killing everyone in Karakura. You know he has to because all of this "Squad Zero" "Soul King" and "Royal Guard" stuff is being massively hinted, along with the fact that it's in another dimension higher than Soul Society.

Come to think, I just wonder exactly how big the SS dimension is? Is it the size of earth, with different stations for different parts of the world?

thenewme93

10-26-2008, 05:51 PM

Aizen...is overpowered...someone with an EXTREMELY high rank in the SS would have to stop him...

garfield15

10-31-2008, 12:07 PM

That respect level I have for Omaeda just keeps going up and up.

So that's why Soifon was losing. She was just being a b****. Makes sense to me.

EroSennin

10-31-2008, 09:34 PM

ShadowGUN

11-07-2008, 08:40 AM

Sheesh, Soi Fon is such an ungrateful little... well you know.
Next time Omaeda should just let her get kill. Anyway another Arrancar has gone down. Now is Matusmoto turn to fight.

DBZALLSTAR

11-07-2008, 08:56 AM

You see it as her being a *&%^, and you may be correct in one respect. I see it as Soifon having a lot of pride. More than likely, she was biding her time to see exactly how she could take down her opponent. It's like any assassination. You must plan everything as precisely as possible if you want it to go down without a hitch.:D

Things have certainly picked up since the end of the flashback arc, and it's become harder to wait a week for each new chapter. I look forward to seeing just who has come to Matsumoto's aid.

garfield15

11-07-2008, 09:56 AM

Finally Soifon killed someone with Suzumebachi in canon!

Captain Highwind

11-07-2008, 10:18 AM

333

I know who it is~!

That was so Hinamori's Flying Plum Tree.

garfield15

11-07-2008, 10:19 AM

333

I know who it is~!

That was so Hinamori's Flying Plum Tree.

If it was, this is an awesome time for her to come back.

(double bankai maybe?)

Funkatron

11-07-2008, 10:55 AM

Finally Soifon killed someone with Suzumebachi in canon!
I think even Omaeda was surprised at this :p

thenewme93

11-08-2008, 10:54 AM

Eh, Soifon is still a ****** no wonder Yoruichi left...

Mr. Obsession

11-08-2008, 11:58 AM

I’m no longer sure how much of Omaeda's baffoonary is genuine and how much is an act, just that there’s some sort of balance between the two. Still, these last three chapters show he deserves a lot more respect than Soi Fon gives him. Dispite what she might say on the outside, I think it still shows that Soi Fon is still defined by the moment Yoruichi walked out of her life.

Also, when she says her shikai is her best move is she implying that her bankai is abnormally weak, or that she doesn’t have one at all?

I know who it is~!

That was so Hinamori's Flying Plum Tree.
It'd be nice to see that she's finally gotten over Aizen. But it's obviously aid from someone Matsumoto wasn't expecting. I could just as easily see Gin firing off some kido through Yamamoto's firewall, for the lulz.

garfield15

11-08-2008, 12:08 PM

Also, when she says her shikai is her best move is she implying that her bankai is abnormally weak, or that she doesn’t have one at all?

Maybe it means she doesn't have one (though that is extremely unlikely) but I think it means that her bankai is just not one for assassination situations. I mean, think about everybody (besides Ichigo's) bankai. They're all huge pwners of destruction. So think of Soifon who's Shikai is based off of stinging. That screams out giant mutant wasp to me. I'm just guessing of course but I just think that Soifon doesn't use it for that reason.

Or she's just being a b****. Take your pick.

thenewme93

11-08-2008, 02:23 PM

Maybe it means she doesn't have one (though that is extremely unlikely) but I think it means that her bankai is just not one for assassination situations. I mean, think about everybody (besides Ichigo's) bankai. They're all huge pwners of destruction. So think of Soifon who's Shikai is based off of stinging. That screams out giant mutant wasp to me. I'm just guessing of course but I just think that Soifon doesn't use it for that reason.

Or she's just being a b****. Take your pick.

I choose the second choice...

FlyByNite77

11-08-2008, 02:51 PM

Maybe Soi Fon's bankai gives off rainbows like a care bear stare and it's why she doesn't like it :p

garfield15

11-08-2008, 03:09 PM

Maybe Soi Fon's bankai gives off rainbows like a care bear stare and it's why she doesn't like it :p

It would be hilarious if it turns out that her bankai is like an ultimate pwner of destruction...but its like an extremely cute doll-faced thing. That would give her enough reason to not want to use it.

Captain Highwind

11-08-2008, 03:29 PM

It'd be nice to see that she's finally gotten over Aizen. But it's obviously aid from someone Matsumoto wasn't expecting. I could just as easily see Gin firing off some kido through Yamamoto's firewall, for the lulz.

I think Hinamori's the best twist to happen in this arc so far. Now we can get back to Aizen, or at least lean more towards his general direction.

Because I'm sure she has quite a bit to talk to him about, now that she's come to her senses. :evil:

Rocketboy

11-12-2008, 04:50 PM

334

So it is Hinamori after all.

Matsumoto worries because even though she declares herself as Aizen's enemy, she still calls him Captain Aizen.

And she pwns 3 fraccion in one hit.

MezzoDragon

11-12-2008, 04:59 PM

I may be one of the few that is happy to know Momo has returned. Although still somewhat delusional, she knows that shinigami must eliminate hollows. The only lieutenant that has yet to make an appearance is Nanao. Where is she?

P.S.: Momo's triple OHP (One-Hit Pwnage) is almost as sweet as her.

garfield15

11-12-2008, 09:30 PM

Damn, Momo just took a major level in badass.

Also, my motivational powers have led me to this gem
http://cdimg3.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/0af7bc8e1e19dba7325e8a807a7485501226538844_full.jpg

For one similar to that, check out the Naruto manga forum

ShadowGUN

11-14-2008, 11:32 AM

LOL The Brain as Aizen.

Anyway I was surprised Momo finally shows up. Still she did refer Aizen as captain which means she still isnt over Aizen. Let hope she made the right choice and side with Soul Reapers instead of Aizen.

Baseball

11-14-2008, 11:37 AM

I wonder if Nanao's next to join in before those Fracción do their Resurrección? 3 on 3?

garfield15

11-14-2008, 11:39 AM

http://cdimg3.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/e63174aaacc3246d01b3b1033e5d440e1226680662_full.jpg

Captain Highwind

11-14-2008, 11:44 AM

garfield15

11-14-2008, 11:54 AM

Hopefully Momo did them in with that blast (I doubt it), because constantly resurrecting themselves is really getting on my nerves. They're like mini-Szayel Aporros.

I mean, anybody stop and think they should just go for the masks by now?

Well, this is Bleach where they absolutely must release their super-special awesome swords. I hope that did them in though.

I wonder if Nanao's next to join in before those Fracción do their Resurrección? 3 on 3?

As much as I would like to see Nanao DO something, I'm actually pulling for Yachiru.

Baseball

11-14-2008, 12:37 PM

As much as I would like to see Nanao DO something, I'm actually pulling for Yachiru.
She's still in Hueco Mundo.

And don't you guys know the rule? An Arrancar can't die unless we see their release first. Except Di Roy.

Captain Highwind

11-14-2008, 01:29 PM

And don't you guys know the rule? An Arrancar can't die unless we see their release first. Except Di Roy.

...I suppose we are overdue for a massive lesbian-themed release.

I'm surprised we've been denied one this long, since this is Tite Kubo.

XOMiss_Samantha

11-14-2008, 02:33 PM

Hooray for Momo!! Let the cuteness prevail over all evil! She sounds like she's still suffering over Aizen, but I guess that's understandable considering... too bad he's still a bastard though.
What a nice blast she made at the end there. While it may not completely destroy the enemy it did make her look cool :]

Katsumara

11-14-2008, 03:04 PM

Mett

11-14-2008, 08:40 PM

Bah, I was hoping to see some of the Vaizards fighting, but by the time they make it in there, all of the enemy will be mostly finished off :(

XOMiss_Samantha

11-14-2008, 08:44 PM

I'm sick of Momo. She should've died when Aizen stabbed her back in the SS. -.- That and I don't think she's really over "Captain Aizen".. she probably just thinks he's misunderstood or something like the typical bad boy. Ugh.

oy, I can totally see that. Momo is so simple and sweet sometimes that I think she wants to make herself believe that Aizen isn't the devil when it's pretty obvious he is. She'll probably try to stick up for him, say he's misunderstood like you said, and then end up getting screwd over once more because her emotions are so easy to toy with. Poor Momo. Aizen is bad and isn't going to change. If she ever had the chance to kill him pointblank, 10$ says she wouldn't.

Captain Highwind

11-14-2008, 09:31 PM

Bah, I was hoping to see some of the Vaizards fighting, but by the time they make it in there, all of the enemy will be mostly finished off :(

Or maybe if Isshin would get off his bum and do something for once...

thenewme93

11-14-2008, 10:56 PM

Yeah where has Isshin been all this arc?

garfield15

11-14-2008, 11:16 PM

Yeah where has Isshin been all this arc?

Isshin: What the, the arrancar are attacking....ah who cares, those other guys can handle it (goes back to sleep)

thenewme93

11-14-2008, 11:27 PM

Well..he IS a retired badass...

FlyByNite77

11-15-2008, 08:40 AM

forget about Isshin what's up with the Vizards? They gotta want revenge on Aizen. I'm hoping for some type of arrancar reinforcement that begins to push back the Shinigami defense leading to the arrival of them.

garfield15

11-20-2008, 02:46 PM

Here you go ladies
http://img56.onemanga.com/mangas/00000003/000100102/02-03.jpg

Ha ha, Ukitake's gonna have to fight a little girl.

And ewwwwwww, what the heck is that supposed to be at the end? That's the wrong kind of fanservice Kubo.

warnerbroman

11-20-2008, 03:34 PM

Captain Highwind

11-20-2008, 03:37 PM

Ukitake was hilarious in this. His reactions and facial expressions made me laugh out loud.

Katsumara

11-20-2008, 05:09 PM

Great chapter. Loved the banter between Stark (one of my new favorite villains due to his pure laziness like me) and Shunsui. The Ukitake bit with the "little girl", telling her to go play with a ball... so hilarious, haha. Man, I love Shunsui/Ukitake. Why can't we get more of that, and less Hitsuguya/Squad 10/Squad 2 crud. D:

XOMiss_Samantha

11-20-2008, 05:56 PM

Ohhhhhh color pages! Ukitake looks so suave in his white suit. I loooove Stark, he reminds me so much of Shunsui it's like they're secretly related or something. They both carry themselves so laizily but when they fight it becomes entertaning to watch. LOL uncle Ukitake has to fight a little girl. I can picture him taking out a piece of candy from his pocket and watching her run after it.

ShadowGUN

11-20-2008, 06:53 PM

Sheesh. The Arrancar powers keep getting freakier and freakier.I wonder what chimera monster can do?

Novapocalypse

11-20-2008, 09:33 PM

Damn it, Kubo. You have confused me again. The Arrancars release strengths were bad enough, now you have managed to...

COMBINE 3 of them?

Captain Highwind

11-20-2008, 09:44 PM

Damn it, Kubo. You have confused me again. The Arrancars release strengths were bad enough, now you have managed to...

COMBINE 3 of them?

I don't think they've really shown their release, did they? They just spawned a minotaur.

Although that is still cause to worry, because the last time a minotaur showed up, Ichigo got snapped like a twig in various places...

Funkatron

11-20-2008, 10:11 PM

I don't think they've really shown their release, did they? They just spawned a minotaur.

Although that is still cause to worry, because the last time a minotaur showed up, Ichigo got snapped like a twig in various places...

They did show thier releases, then used thier various arms to create the minataur. One of the ladies is based on a goat/deer, one on a lion and the last on a snake. The big problem is what heppens when their Minataur is defeated. All three ladies are literally disarmed

FlyByNite77

11-23-2008, 04:50 AM

they each cut off one of their own arms to then form another monster? Wow... just... uh wow

MezzoDragon

11-23-2008, 08:00 AM

They did show thier releases, then used thier various arms to create the minataur. One of the ladies is based on a goat/deer, one on a lion and the last on a snake. The big problem is what heppens when their Minataur is defeated. All three ladies are literally disarmed
Perhaps they have high speed regeneration. Their chimera is extremely creepy and very cool. If it is as strong as it appears, then Momo and Rangiku are going to be in serious trouble.

On a different note, Nanao should make an appearance soon. She is missing out on the 'fun'.

FlyByNite77

11-23-2008, 05:31 PM

Perhaps they have high speed regeneration. Their chimera is extremely creepy and very cool. If it is as strong as it appears, then Momo and Rangiku are going to be in serious trouble.

On a different note, Nanao should make an appearance soon. She is missing out on the 'fun'.

I kind of expect when Nanao makes an appearance we might see the Vizards appear at least that's what I'm hoping since in the flashbacks we saw Lisa had connections to Nanao (who idolized her) and obviously Shunsui (since she was his lieutenant)

Mr. Obsession

11-24-2008, 02:56 PM

Perhaps they have high speed regeneration. I don't know. Regeneration like that is supposedly a rare high level hollow ability. Wasn't that why Kensei was surprised when Ichigo's hollow form had it? It seems like a bit of a stretch when so far only two confirmed characters in the entire series have that ability for three mid-tier (on the general arrancar power scale) fraccion of the same Espada would all coincidently have that same rare and high level ability.

My guess is, based on the trouble Matsumoto and Momo were giving them, this is a desperation attack. And when a third character (and I agree that it will most likely be Nano) shows up and destroys that chimera, Apache, Mila Rose, and Sun-Sun will permanently lose the parts they contributed.

Rud

11-28-2008, 12:33 AM

Man, i really hope Kira and "guy with the number on his face" get their asses kicked by that chimera thing, this was supposed to be Hinamori's first real fight/cool victory ever dammit, then they just save her, lame. Though, if Ikkaku just conviniently showed up and saved the day with Bankai or something i would have no problem with that:D

Baseball

11-28-2008, 12:49 AM

Rangiku seriously just got messed up. I totally thought that would have been a hallucination...holy crap.

Captain Highwind

11-28-2008, 12:55 AM

And what did I tell you. Minotaurs. (Or Chimeras if you want to get technical.)

Day-umn.

That is going to get edited in the anime.

Kaiser0120

11-28-2008, 03:39 AM

...

Ow.

That... that is...

Not all. Is that a chunk of...

...

Geeze. Rangiku. D=

FlyByNite77

11-28-2008, 08:06 AM

Rangiku got seriously blitzed, I can't really remember seeing that type of graphic damage in Bleach before. Usually it's just something like they take a lot of physical damage cough up a lot of blood, etc...

That was almost Elfen Lied-ish.

ShadowGUN

11-28-2008, 10:26 AM

Whoa Allon took a huge chunk out of Rangiku :eek: . I am surprised she still alive.

anime_guru

11-28-2008, 10:48 AM

wow
no sensu bean for rangiku...but I loved the way ukitake pwned - but no one is surprised by that
wow rangiku...here I thought she might have bankai but this is
wow...I'm a little shocked...one blow and she and momo are defeated...in a rather gory way. When did this happen in bleach!? (save from ichigo getting beat up prior to kenpachi coming to hueco mundo)
:confused:

garfield15

11-28-2008, 10:57 AM

My god, I didn't think the damage was that bad, when Hinamori said she couldn't breathe I had to back to realize that thing just took out like a chunk of her body.

Oh great, Team Drinking Buddies is going to bail them out.

You know, knowing Ukitake, I bet he would like adopt that kid.

Novapocalypse

11-28-2008, 11:32 AM

Holy hell, Rangiku just lost half of her freaking torso.

It'll most likely be edited for Viz's manga too.

Ukitake is blocking that girl's attacks like a fly.

Baseball

11-28-2008, 12:55 PM

It'll most likely be edited for Viz's manga too.
As far as I know, Viz hasn't edited anything in the Bleach graphic novels at all. In Shonen Jump, yes. But volume releases are always uncut.

Captain Highwind

11-28-2008, 02:32 PM

That was almost Elfen Lied-ish.

Yeah, it's been a while since something's disturbed me. When he held up her parts it was a bit much.

So with Momo out, how's she gonna get fixed? Do the macho geniuses that are blindly jumping in the fight know how to heal on the side?

Let's remember, Orihime, Hinatarou, AND Mayuri are in another dimension. :P

FlyByNite77

11-28-2008, 05:46 PM

Yeah, it's been a while since something's disturbed me. When he held up her parts it was a bit much.

So with Momo out, how's she gonna get fixed? Do the macho geniuses that are blindly jumping in the fight know how to heal on the side?

Let's remember, Orihime, Hinatarou, AND Mayuri are in another dimension. :P

Unohana and Isane are also in Hueco Mondo so that's the top 'healing ability' captain and her lieutenant. I guess maybe that 3rd seat guy from squad 4 with the blonde hair and sunglasses is the highest available potentially if he's there.

Anime Freak

11-28-2008, 09:38 PM

OMG Rangiku and Hinamori both got pwned badly. And really, Kira and Isane?! No, those 2 have already gotten their spotlights, I get the feeling that they're both gonna get pwned as well and Sasakibe or Ukitake are gonna have to come save the day. I assume Komamura,Iba,Yumachika and Ikkaku are still guarding the pilalrs I would hope...

And I agree with the other posts, what was their logic in brining all but 1 healer to Hueco Mundo?! :sweat:

Rud

11-28-2008, 10:15 PM

And I agree with the other posts, what was their logic in brining all but 1 healer to Hueco Mundo?! :sweat:

i think Kubo intended to purposely leave all the best good guy characters in Hueco Mundo, but accedentaly put Hanataro in there instead of Ikkaku and Yumachika.

(of course im kidding)

FireStarterLE

11-28-2008, 10:32 PM

No, those 2 have already gotten their spotlights, I get the feeling that they're both gonna get pwned as well and Sasakibe or Ukitake are gonna have to come save the day.

Old Man Yama is just standing there doing nothing, he needs to get in gear and show the Arrancar whose boss by pawning that thing with one hit.

Novapocalypse

11-28-2008, 10:45 PM

Captain Highwind

11-28-2008, 10:48 PM

Novapocalypse

11-28-2008, 11:50 PM

Yes, there's still that.

This series goes at a snail's pace, but you have to admit there's still a lot left to cover before it ends.

It would be so cool if Kubo brings in Don Kanonji. Maybe give Keigo, Mizuiro, and Tatsuki some sort of abilities before the series is done. Pretty much, give the characters that we haven't seen in one hundred chapters a chance to shine.

thenewme93

11-29-2008, 08:19 PM

DAMN!!!! That was one image of Rangiku..I did not need to see..

anime_guru

11-29-2008, 10:53 PM

Screw the Soul Society helping, I want the Vizards to show up! (Something tells me the Vizards will show up to help Rangiku... since they seem to be the only people able to.)

Then again, there's also Ishinn, Urahara, and Yoruichi... and Ishida's dad! Darn it Kubo, you have quite a bit of people to introduce into this battle... or will he wait for the Winter War?

I've been saying that since I found out Isinn and Ishida's father had power. Seriously why aren't the older characters significant? Okay save for vizard's...still need backstory on Ishinn darnit ><

Mett

11-30-2008, 05:24 AM

Then again, there's also Ishinn, Urahara, and Yoruichi... and Ishida's dad! Darn it Kubo, you have quite a bit of people to introduce into this battle... or will he wait for the Winter War?

But who are all these people going to fight? Most of the Espada were killed off, theres 5 left. Assuming Ichigo takes out Ulqiorra, that leaves 4. Yami is somewhere and the other 3 are fighting captains. So theres those 3 Espada, the 3 Bad-Captains, and whatever fraccion are left. But theres over 10 other guys we havent seen in combat, not mentioning the captain commander even. So are they going to be introducing new enemies or what?

Rud

11-30-2008, 05:37 AM

If the top three Espada kick the Soul Society people's asses like i think they will, Aizen and the other two make six. There are 8 Vaizard, i can see this being a good 8 on 6 fight, itl be a stand still and Aizen, not expecting these masked guys to still even be alive let alone pose such a huge threat retreats to prepare for the winter war, maby he will convert some more Vasto Lorde into Arrancar or finally realizes that Wonderwise Margera is actualy some kind of godly badass like its obvious he is.

Urahara and them other guys dont show.

Mr. Obsession

11-30-2008, 10:17 PM

Well. I can safely say I did not see that coming. But I guess neither did Matsumoto.

So if Kira and Hisagi can't stop the chimera, I wonder who will. I'm tempted to think this is a ploy to get Hitsugaya out of his current fight without angering his fans. I could also see Ukitake stepping in (or taking over for Hitsugaya) since Lilinette is obviously not a match for him.

As far as I know, Viz hasn't edited anything in the Bleach graphic novels at all. In Shonen Jump, yes. But volume releases are always uncut.Well they did edit one chapter title page where Grimmjow's giving the audience the finger. Beyond that nothing else comes to mind. I will, however, be very curious to see how the anime handles this scene when the get to it. Unless Kubo's decided to start killing off some of his more popular characters (and this is Bleach, "nobody dies in Bleach," as they say), something will be altered when this is animated.

But who are all these people going to fight? Most of the Espada were killed off, theres 5 left. Assuming Ichigo takes out Ulqiorra, that leaves 4. Yami is somewhere and the other 3 are fighting captains. So theres those 3 Espada, the 3 Bad-Captains, and whatever fraccion are left. But theres over 10 other guys we havent seen in combat, not mentioning the captain commander even. So are they going to be introducing new enemies or what?One popular theory is Aizen's cleaning house. Once the current Espada is gone he'll unleash his perfect vasto lorde exclusive Espada.

garfield15

11-30-2008, 10:20 PM

Captain Highwind

11-30-2008, 10:47 PM

That would be so messed up if it turns out Wonderwise could actually own everybody.

*Wonderwise releases as a giant Minotaur*

Ichigo & Rangiku:

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8669/2djyulsou8.png (http://imageshack.us)
"NOT AGAIN~!" they cry.

Wonderwise then bites off everybody's heads in one stroke

THE END OF BLEACH.

Rud

11-30-2008, 10:57 PM

That would be so messed up if it turns out Wonderwise could actually own everybody.

Im just saying, i mean, hes the most recently created Arrancar that was made with the Hogyoku released at 50 percent, wich is as far as Aizen had gotten it by then, and its been said he can make better Arrancar with it, so you would think "higher release = More power" right? Also, when Wonderwise appeared with Yami, Grimmjow & his then replacement, Soul Society ranked his spiritual pressure in the same class as an Espada, right after he was just born too, so its not like hes a push over being in the same class as the top Arrancar and all.

I wouldnt be surprised if he secretely is some super power house that can actually own everybody:D.

Novapocalypse

11-30-2008, 11:45 PM

Wonderwise being the most powerful Arrancar would be epic.

RockmanDash

11-30-2008, 11:47 PM

Hearing about Rangiku...I don't think I want to see what happens to her. :sweat:

Anime Freak

12-03-2008, 05:26 PM

Some early spoilers are out for 337 and its looking pretty good:
-Hisagi gets pwned badly.
-Kira reveals that he used to be in the 4th division(Unohana's healing group) , so he starts to heal Hinamori and Rangiku.
-Iba rushes to save Hisagi but is taken out in one blow.
-Hisagi is dealt a bad blow and is down for the count, and Allon rushes to Kira.
-Yamamoto steps in and saves Kira and remarks how shameful it is that he must step into the fight.

Total down: 6 (Hinamori, Matsumoto, Iba,Hisagi, Yumichika,Ikkaku)
Busy in other Battles: 4 (Soi fon vs. Barragan, Ukitake vs Lillinete, Hitsugaya vs. Halibel, Stark vs. Shunsui)
Unaccounted for: Komamura (guarding the pillars possibly?) , Chojiro Sasakibe (who the f**k knows??) , and Soi Fon's vice captain(assume he's watching the other fight).

anime_guru

12-03-2008, 06:01 PM

-Yamamoto steps in and saves Kira and remarks how shameful it is that he must step into the fight..

he actually does something!? besides being a staunch and indignant character leading gotei 13 into situations that a substitute shinigami always has to clean up???

Okay seriously and then he remarks how shameful he has to fight? What's he supposed to do? Stand there sleeping? Shrugs

Also can you count Ukitake being busy considered what he did with lillinette without even trying???

Anime Freak

12-03-2008, 06:36 PM

Well I meant busy as in he's busy dealing with her right now and can't get over to help them. And I think Yama meant more like it was shameful that his shinigami lost to some arrancar. But yeah it is good to see Yamamoto finally doing something besides just standing there looking old.

Rocketboy

12-04-2008, 01:04 AM

New volume revealed that Unohana's former Vice Captain is actually the older brother of Hanataro.

That's pretty interesting. I wonder what happened to him.

Rud

12-04-2008, 04:04 AM

New volume revealed that Unohana's former Vice Captain is actually the older brother of Hanataro.

That's pretty interesting. I wonder what happened to him.

seeing as how nobody retires from soul society, hes probably KIA. Of course he could also be another shinigami who illegaly snuck off to live on earth for unknown reasons.

1 of 3

12-04-2008, 12:29 PM

Volume 36 is out. I'm a little disappointed it doesn't contain the entire Pendulum arc and was numbered something like "-1"

Mr. Obsession

12-04-2008, 12:47 PM

seeing as how nobody retires from soul societyThat's not completely true. You don't retire until Soul Society says you can retire. Renji's predecessor retired and opened a sunglasses shop that Renji and Iba frequent. He even sends Byakuya gifts.

Anime Freak

12-04-2008, 02:10 PM

Some further spoilers are out. Seems that:
-Kira thinks Hisagi has a thing for Rangiku...

-Iba got cerowned! He dissappears within the cero and a lot of ppl think he may have died, but I sorta doubt it.

-Hisagi puts up a much better fight than the girls,but seems Allon is 10x stronger and pummels him. And with Kira unable to move, Yama must step in

Scirel

12-04-2008, 02:13 PM

Some further spoilers are out. Seems that:
-Kira thinks Hisagi has a thing for Rangiku...

Who dosen`t?

-Iba got cerowned! He dissappears within the cero and a lot of ppl think he may have died, but I sorta doubt it.

-Hisagi puts up a much better fight than the girls,but seems Allon is 10x stronger and pummels him. And with Kira unable to move, Yama must step in

Nobody(on the good side) dies in bleach. nobody.

Allon seems to be the best fraccion there is, at the level of an espada. Maybe Halibel is #1? But it seems like Barragan is #1.. Stark I`m thinking might be #3 now...

FlyByNite77

12-05-2008, 08:23 AM

I didn't see the Hisagi liking Rangiku thing in the chapter, but maybe it's just the translation I read. I've always thought he might have a thing for her just from all the little golden cups outtakes because it seemed like he'd be drinking around her or trying to get there anyway...

I actually thought for a second with Hisagi getting pwned the one who would step in would be that Vizard Kensei who saved him when he was a little kid in Soul Society in the flashback arc to bring things full circle.

garfield15

12-05-2008, 10:36 AM

Oh come on! That Cero was overkill. Who would have expected an eye coming out of someone's hair? (just reading that sounds like something you would make while you're on drugs....oh right, this is Kubo....)

Finally! Yama-jii needed to get off his old arse.

XOMiss_Samantha

12-05-2008, 01:41 PM

wow that....thing is so beastly!!Jeez.

Rud

12-05-2008, 04:17 PM

\
I actually thought for a second with Hisagi getting pwned the one who would step in would be that Vizard Kensei who saved him when he was a little kid in Soul Society in the flashback arc to bring things full circle.
I thought that would happen too, glad it dint, i ant the Viazard to get there once the Shinigami get trashed and only Aizen, his caps and the top three espada guys were left.

Anime Freak

12-10-2008, 11:47 PM

Early spoilers are out for 338:
-Titled "Fall into my Inferno"

-Yamamoto appears in front of Kira and has wounded Allon pretty well. Kira apologizes but Yama chastises him.

-The beast attacks again and yama releases and slashes him into 2 parts. The left part is still standing and attacks.

-Yama remarks how pathetic it is to kill such a wasted creature and slashes a burning cut killing Allon for good.

*This isnt the full spoiler so i'm hoping there's more than just Kira/Yama/Allon :shrug:

Baseball

12-12-2008, 02:17 AM

Yamamoto is so powerful, it's ridiculous. I'm really impressed.

garfield15

12-12-2008, 09:12 AM

Wow, Kubo has to be the first manga creator to actually have pages that show a character powering up for that long. I mean, usually when people are powering up for that long, it's in the anime series but....wow.

Anyway, I'm glad that's settled.

ShadowGUN

12-12-2008, 11:11 AM

Wow. Now I know why Yamamoto doesn't fight that much. He practically beat him without unsheating his sword.

Captain Highwind

12-12-2008, 11:41 AM

Okay, so, Yamamoto takes away the beast. Now can he finish off everybody else so we can get on with this?

Mr. Obsession

12-17-2008, 12:37 PM

Chapter 339 confirms the Espada ranks for the top 3:

3. Halibel
2. Barragan
1. Stark

Also, striptease for Toshiro. :D Though I suppose Matsumoto has completely desensitized him by now, pity.

FlyByNite77

12-17-2008, 01:32 PM

Chapter 339 confirms the Espada ranks for the top 3:

3. Halibel
2. Barragan
1. Stark

Also, striptease for Toshiro. :D Though I suppose Matsumoto has completely desensitized him by now, pity.

Matsumuto 'prepared him' seeing something like that with no prior experience would freeze a young lad ;)

I really thought old guy would be #1 with how he was giving orders before, but I guess it just goes with Stark's disinterested type of personality. I wonder what Shunsei can do against him...

BTW, I really don't get old man Yamamoto leaving the fraccions alive. They are fighting a war against soul society. They are fighting against hollows (albeit evolved Hollows), I don't get him. ESPECIALLY HIM. With how strictly he follows traditions in Soul Society to not finish off a hollow

MezzoDragon

12-17-2008, 01:38 PM

Matsumuto 'prepared him' seeing something like that with no prior experience would freeze a young lad ;)

I really thought old guy would be #1 with how he was giving orders before, but I guess it just goes with Stark's disinterested type of personality. I wonder what Shunsei can do against him...

BTW, I really don't get old man Yamamoto leaving the fraccions alive. They are fighting a war against soul society. They are fighting against hollows (albeit evolved Hollows), I don't get him. ESPECIALLY HIM. With how strictly he follows traditions in Soul Society to not finish off a hollow

In your first paragraph, was the pun intentional or not? Also, Stark being Primera (sp?) is very cool. As for Head Captain Yamamoto, he respected their spirit (an ironic thing to say to 'ghosts') for charging him (a very stupid thing to do) while missing an arm (and braincells).

FireStarterLE

12-17-2008, 03:28 PM

With the way Toshiro got knocked away as soon as he hit bankai it's look like he might need a Visord (vizard) assistance.

Shunsui might be good enough to go head to head with Stark but probably not good enough to beat him.

Rud

12-17-2008, 03:31 PM

heh, i knew Toshiro dint stand a chance. Finally, Ichigos fight with Ulquiora, now, please, live Ulquiora, LIVE!!

XOMiss_Samantha

12-17-2008, 03:37 PM

lolToshiro. That woman needs to keep her cloths on.
I'm really shocked that Stark is number one. I honestly wasn't expecting that at all. It's a nice touch.
I'm going to be pissed if something happens to Ulquiorra=[

Katsumara

12-17-2008, 03:56 PM

I love Halibel's "mask" form. Not because of the giant ta-tas (because let's face it; there's a lot of characters in Bleach that have large breasts), but just because of how badass it looks. That and her small buster sword.

I figured Hitsugaya would stand no chance, and I'm not surprised Hali is #3. I love that Stark is #1. It brings to light something mentioned in an earlier chapter where Barrigan said "I'm taking over, you have no problems, right?" since Stark would be way too lazy to do anything like that.

Captain Highwind

12-17-2008, 04:46 PM

Oh finally! Things are wrapping up (while Halibel's busting out at the chest) and Yamamoto really is picking off the stragglers.

I didn't think we'd ever reach Ulquiorra's fight this year, dowsn't look like he's beaten Ichigo too much yet.

Now where the heck's Yami and Grimmjow?

Anime Freak

12-17-2008, 05:49 PM

Well it makes sense that Kubo would go back to Ulquoria considering that we're now onto Espada fights, so obviously Kubo wants them to be taken out in order starting with #4 and working the way down. I get the feeling Hitsugaya will need help and thats where Ukitake will get involved and I believe Soi Fon can take on Barragan fine, but Komamura is around somewhere if she does need help. I dont see Kyouraku having any problems with Stark,i'd say they're the most evenly matched of them all.

n1c3guy707

12-18-2008, 02:14 AM

Darn Toshiro loses again and Halibel wow please don't ever take that top/mask off ever again.

Stark as #1 or primera I did not see that coming.

Also yay Ichigo's fight is coming up, But boo it's next chapter.

anime_guru

12-18-2008, 11:14 AM

echoing on others
omg its toshiro's bankai
Omg he will lose again. Halibel isn't even in her resurrection form and he's breaking out with bankai. But considering Ukitake hasn't seen lilinette's resurrection, he may have a fight on his hands due to his tuberculosis. I think one thing I disliked is the fact that some of the biggest fights are happening and no we see ichigo. I want to see stark and shunsui fight! And the vaizards have a lot to say too...so instead of seeing ichigo's vaizard, let's see shinji and the others

Mr. Obsession

12-18-2008, 12:40 PM

It seems the fans are going nuts over this chapter. Personally I find myself loving Halibel's design more and more. Not because of the flesh factor, but rather the way the hollowed out section of her sword seems to be made out of energy. And her mask fragment, though the largest one we've seen so far, looks like it's made of interlocking armor plates that perfectly contour to her body. If anything else Halibel's mask further reinforces the theory that the top 3 or the top 4 are all vasto lorde.

I don't know if Hitsugaya should be counted out just yet. The only damage we see from Halibel's attack is shattering ice. If Hitsugaya managed to shield himself with his wings soon enough he'll still be able to fight, especially with his ability to regenerate his bankai based on the water in the atmosphere. However, I do agree that this fight is beginning to look far more one sided, and once she releases (if Hitsugaya makes it that far) he's going to have to prove himself a tactical genius to survive.\

What I suspect we'll get after Ichigo's fight is over (which he'll win) is drawn-out fights in which the various captains get their asses handed to them by the top three espada. Which will cue the arrival of the vaizards. Followed by Ichigo and co's escape from Hueco Mundo.

Also, am I the only one picturing Gin begging Aizen to let him do Halibel's number tattoo?

ShadowGUN

12-19-2008, 07:06 AM

I wonder how Halibel's transformation is going to work on the anime, since her clothing( or lack of) was censor?

So Stark was #1 Espada. That was surprising.

Yay finally Ichigo returns. I almost forgot he was the main character since I haven't see him in months.

Neo Ultra Mike

12-19-2008, 12:50 PM

Oirignally posted by hehey
heh, i knew Toshiro dint stand a chance. Finally, Ichigos fight with Ulquiora, now, please, live Ulquiora, LIVE!!

Oh come on, of course he is. He's facing off against Ichigo, one of the biggest P****s of all Shinigami. I don't mean in strength I mean in actually finishing off opponents. Seriously, canon wise what was the last opponent Ichigo actually killed anyway? Besides just random ordinary rull of the mill generic hollows? Seriously if he allowed Grimmjow to live (because... wait was there a good reason for that again?) no way he's going to be able to off Uliqourra.

Seems kind of unfair that Hailbel is third since that was Nel's original position. What are the female Espada only guaranteed to get the third ranking or something? I could see Stark being the third, but thought it'd be a nice twist if Hailbel was second and Barrigan was third but was just more foreceful and a better tatical commander which is why he took charge over the others who didn't care if he was in charge or not. Also a lot of people are saying that they expect the Vaizards to come back and help out, but I'd also like to see Kisuke's group do something as well. Or at the very least see him and Yoorouchi help out the captains. Really I'd love to see a Hailbel vs Yorouchi battle and finally get a chance to see her Zanpakto and have a chance for it to go all out or something. (No offense to Hitsauya but last I checked his full power attack wasn't able to take out the replacment 6th espada Luppi who wasn't even as strong as Grimmjow. No way should he be able to do much against the third Espada esepically considering he dosen't get super dues ex machina powerups like Ichigo).

Lord Andy

12-20-2008, 02:10 AM

Halibel's fraccion surviving leads me to believe that the top three Espada will survive this battle. That way they can all regroup to fight another day. Also, Halibel and Stark's fraccion were introduced a long time ago, while everyone else's has died. Personaly I'm hoping that these three Espadas and the currently remaining four fraccion survive this encounter. With so many characters on the Soul Society side, we need more then Aizen, Gin, and Tousen to fight.

On the other hand, maybe Kubo only let Hanibel's fraccion lived because he liked them and couldn't bring himself to kill them off.

warnerbroman

12-20-2008, 05:13 PM

Halibel's fraccion surviving leads me to believe that the top three Espada will survive this battle.

On the other hand, maybe Kubo only let Hanibel's fraccion lived because he liked them and couldn't bring himself to kill them off. they only lived out of mercy

MezzoDragon

12-20-2008, 05:24 PM

They were spared because the Head Captain was impressed that they decided to attack him with one arm missing. To be honest, I'd be embarrassed for them. Head Captain Yamamoto is one of the strongest (perhaps the strongest) Shinigami. You will have to be the strongest Espada just to stand a chance to survive for 5 minutes against him. Getting uber pwned by him is the best result they could hope for.

As for Halibel, she has a HUGE mask fragment. That explains why she can wear such a skimpy top.

Anime Freak

12-26-2008, 05:01 PM

Chapter 340 Spoilers are out!

-Ichigo and Ulq face off and Ulq. can tell that Ichigo has gotten stronger since his last battle as Ichigo is able to fend off an attack he had trouble with before.

-Chad and Renji use their special attacks to take down most of the exequias,meanwhile Rukia is able to take down the remaining exequias, with the exception of the leader.

-The leader of the Exequias, named Rotodon, scoffs at her and says she doesn't stand a chance and releases. His release looks like he has branches(sorta like a tree). Meanwhile Rukia looks up and sees a blast coming from where Ichigo is fighting.

-Ichigo and Ulq continue their fight, he is able to get faster than ulqi for a brief second and uses two hands on his sword to swing down on Ulqi, but it misses as Ulqi dodges.

-Ulqi asks Ichigo if his increase in speed is due to his last fight or due to his desire to save Orihime. He tells Ichigo that it's pointless to save her because of what she has inside of her that will cause him trouble later on. Ichigo flashes back to when Grimmjow said something similar(this was many chapters ago, last year some time ha).

-Ichigo refuses to listen to Ulqi and rushes at him again.

Of note, there is no new chapter for 2 weeks because this one somehow came out early. I also found it interesting that Kubo remembered about Grimmjow saying that all those chapters ago and connected it again.

ShadowGUN

12-26-2008, 05:54 PM

-Ulqi asks Ichigo if his increase in speed is due to his last fight or due to his desire to save Orihime. He tells Ichigo that it's pointless to save her because of what she has inside of her that will cause him trouble later on. Ichigo flashes back to when Grimmjow said something similar(this was many chapters ago, last year some time ha).

Orihime is pregnant with Ichigo's baby :eek: .

LOL

That too bad about having to wait while for a new chapter. Just when it starting to get interesting.

garfield15

12-26-2008, 06:14 PM

You know, its fun to go to the beginning of this thread and see what has changed. Like there are people who don't post here anymore or have gotten banned, and then there was the fact that you all read "Arrancar" as "Allankar" (though I know why) and how bored some people got after the end of the Soul Society arc.

Looks like fun times.

MeggieMay

12-26-2008, 08:23 PM

Novapocalypse

12-26-2008, 08:37 PM

Last I checked, Renji was with Uryuu, Nemu and Mayuri, so I have to wonder if these spoilers are completely accurate or if someone just made them up as a Xmas hoax? :| .

Renji came to help Ichigo bypass the army of hollows before he rushed into the building to save Orihime.

Anime Freak

12-27-2008, 12:31 AM

Last I checked, Renji was with Uryuu, Nemu and Mayuri, so I have to wonder if these spoilers are completely accurate or if someone just made them up as a Xmas hoax? :| .

These are from a very accurate source at Bleach Asylum so I assure you they're 100% correct. And besides, before the whole pendulum arc it showed Renji,Rukia and Chad there to help Ichigo get thru the Exequias. The real question is why Ishida isn't there?? :confused:

Captain Highwind

12-27-2008, 12:59 AM

-Ichigo and Ulq continue their fight, he is able to get faster than ulqi for a brief second and uses two hands on his sword to swing down on Ulqi, but it misses as Ulqi dodges.

Nice to see Kenpachi's teachings have passed onto Ichigo

*cough*

MeggieMay

12-27-2008, 01:54 PM

These are from a very accurate source at Bleach Asylum so I assure you they're 100% correct. And besides, before the whole pendulum arc it showed Renji,Rukia and Chad there to help Ichigo get thru the Exequias. The real question is why Ishida isn't there?? :confused:

OK, I double checked and I can see how this could happen but the last chapter doesn't show them in Ichigos vicinity (doesn't show much of anyone other than Ichigo and Uliq as it pertains to this discussion, actually). Also, when we left them in the pre-pendulum arc, Renji, Rukia and Chad weren't together but separated in different areas. The probably have had enough time to converge in one place but I'm still curious as to just how Renji got well enough that quickly to get back into the fight like this. IIRC members of Squad 4 healed Rukia and Chad but all Renji had was crazy Mayuri to help him and I'm surprised (or will be) if Mayuri fixed him up that fast (and if it did, just what did that entail, anyway?).

Still, my questioning of the spoilers wasn't exactly uncalled for. I noticed several people were questioning them on other forums I researched last night. I never ruled out the spoilers as being fake - just not correct, which can also include incomplete or mis-reported details (at least for me that's what I meant). Also, after thinking about the spoilers I have to wonder if the fact Renji is suddenly back in the fight seemingly healed might be some sort of plot twist Kudo's setting up and that the readers are suppose to be wondering about this situation. IMO Kudo is almost a master of plot twists and it would be very much like him to set up something that seems off hand/not important and have it mean something important later in the story. Such as the comments about Orihime and "what inside her causing Ichigo trouble later on" - I'm totally not surprised that came back up. Kudo doesn't seem to do total throw away lines and he has been making a lot of comments about Orihime that make me wonder about whether she'll make it out of this plot without some major changes to her character happening.

Now, where Ishida has gotten off to is also making me wonder but I'm a big fan of his so that's not a surprise :) .

Rud

12-27-2008, 02:09 PM

hmmm, me thinks Ishida is having a confrontation with Mayuri.

ShadowGUN

12-30-2008, 06:45 PM

Paul_Cousins

12-30-2008, 07:19 PM

Rotodon's resureccion looks pretty pathetic. He turns into a tree. Wow that should have Rukia changing her pants :shrug: .
I wonder what Ulquiorra was talking about when he said Orihime is one of them?Two words, "sleeper agent".

Aizen is a master of the Xanatos Gambit: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit

Aizen has vast skill and knowledge of Soul Reaper and Hollow abilities and their powers.

Plus his Zanpakuto can be used for types of mind control, which Orihime is the only one can break.

I would not put it past him to create sleeper agents from the main cast. Actually, I am surprised it took him this long to do it.

ShadowGUN

01-16-2009, 07:52 AM

Hell yeah. Ichigo is kicking Ulquiorra ass. Well at least for a while :sweat: .

And hey Orihime is doing something useful in battle. It been a while since she done that. I wonder what Menoli and Loli are up to?

FlyByNite77

01-16-2009, 08:26 AM

I think the loli's are plotting to take out Orihime since they don't like her.

Kubo hinting a bit at Ulqi liking Orihime with Ichigo saying the "I don't know if I've become more like or Hollow, or you've become more like a human line." then the panel shot of Ulqi thinking of or looking at Orihime ;)

Captain Highwind

01-16-2009, 01:25 PM

Well Orihime just got in on the fight, whether she wants to now or not. Finally two protagonists versus one antagonist.

I'm thinking we're going to find out whatever Aizen did to Orihime when Loli and Menoli surprise her.

XOMiss_Samantha

01-16-2009, 01:27 PM

Ulquiorraaa!!! I love him so much! Stupid Ichigo... go away! Don't hurt him! If there is once arrancar I want to live, it's him.
I actually like UlquiXOrihime more than OrihimeXanybody else.

GWOtaku

01-16-2009, 01:30 PM

I wouldn't presume too much yet. Ulquiorra is still a merciless bastard until he actually does something to help our heroes. All he's ever done is bring Orihime misery so far.

thenewme93

01-17-2009, 02:35 PM

Captain Highwind

01-17-2009, 02:52 PM

Lol..Crack Pairing much...

I get a Lifetime movie vibe out of the whole situation.

Ulquiorra= crazed, abusive ex-boyfriend

Orihime= trying to escape abusive ex-boyfriend

Ichigo= Plucky new boyfirend

Now we're at the part where they fight at the docks, the ex-boyfriend's got the upper hand and the girlfriend knocks him out from behind.

XOMiss_Samantha

01-17-2009, 06:34 PM

Lol..Crack Pairing much...

=[
Heyyy, it's not TOO crack....ok, it might be, but I still like it! (despite the fact that all of the arrancar's are gay for Aizen).
I really just don't like Ichigo with anybody in general and would perfer Ulqui than him.

RockmanDash

01-17-2009, 06:47 PM

=[
Heyyy, it's not TOO crack....ok, it might be, but I still like it! (despite the fact that all of the arrancar's are gay for Aizen).
I really just don't like Ichigo with anybody in general and would perfer Ulqui than him.

Dude that's sick and twisted you should be ashamed of yourself.

It's obviously Ulqui and Yami ;_; their bond with each other..is..so beautiful...*sniff*

Luna

01-17-2009, 11:48 PM

Ulquiorraaa!!! I love him so much! Stupid Ichigo... go away! Don't hurt him! If there is once arrancar I want to live, it's him.
I actually like UlquiXOrihime more than OrihimeXanybody else....I only like Ichigo x Orihime (a major reason is because I really,really,REALLY don't want Ichigo x Rukia to happen,since I'm in favor of Rukia x Renji).... and I dunno,they just kinda seem right together,maybe because they're so different ...Orihime clearly loves Ichigo very much,and he does seem to be protective of her....

Rud

01-18-2009, 12:04 AM

...I only like Ichigo x Orihime (a major reason is because I really,really,REALLY don't want Ichigo x Rukia to happen,since I'm in favor of Rukia x Renji).... and I dunno,they just kinda seem right together,maybe because they're so different ...Orihime clearly loves Ichigo very much,and he does seem to be protective of her....

and of almost every other girl he knows, doesnt mean anything.

though i do support Ichigo x Orihime....

Rocketboy

01-21-2009, 11:09 AM

342

So Yammi was behind a WALL this whole time.

Captain Highwind

01-21-2009, 11:17 AM

342

So Yammi was behind a WALL this whole time.

That must mean Grimmjow is behind this lamp!

...Or maybe the rug...?

XOMiss_Samantha

01-21-2009, 11:35 AM

That must mean Grimmjow is behind this lamp!

...Or maybe the rug...?

Check in Aizen's bed first >_>

Mr. Obsession

01-21-2009, 12:41 PM

Suddenly...Yammy!

Huh. Yeah, I wouldn't have predicted that happening, ever. Personally I was beginning to think Kubo had forgotten about him.

Check in Aizen's bed first >_>
No, check under Aizen's couch.

Captain Highwind

01-21-2009, 01:33 PM

Check in Aizen's bed first >_>

Oh, we all know that's Gin's territory.

Anime Freak

01-21-2009, 05:54 PM

Well with Yammy returning, and Orihime getting beat up on, who else is thinking that this is a setup for.....Grimmjow returning!! Yup my prediction is on him coming to Hime's rescue and pwning Yami and the 2 brats ;) Either that or Unohana shows up to save the day! :sweat:

FireStarterLE

01-23-2009, 03:06 AM

Yammy, I'm sorry to say this to you buuuuut that's no dog .... it's a goat.

The Man Who is Overlooked: Yammy Moves Out!!!!
His terror will catch everyone by surprise (much like what happened with Omaeda)

garfield15

01-23-2009, 08:58 AM

Well, that was random.

Fight, fight, fight, Orihime taken hostage, fight, eyeball threat, fight, fight...

BOOM! YAMMY COMES OUT OF NOWHERE!

warnerbroman

01-23-2009, 09:40 AM

Well, that was random.

Fight, fight, fight, Orihime taken hostage, fight, eyeball threat, fight, fight...

BOOM! YAMMY COMES OUT OF NOWHERE!and quick

Captain Highwind

01-23-2009, 11:32 AM

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s97/Mr_Highwind/bleach/motivator9994378.jpg

reddiOx

01-23-2009, 02:32 PM

Did anyone notice that Yammy's hollow hole was missing? Might be a mistake, maybe it's not.

Rud

01-23-2009, 04:09 PM

Ingrates, Orihime should have never healed those two, Ulq is still playing with Ichigo, i bet the mask comes on next chapter. Yammy, finally, the 3rd Arrancar that i dont want to die, its about time he showed up.

Rocketboy

01-27-2009, 02:30 PM

343

For once, Ishida's fighting someone who isn't a scientist.

Albeit with the aid of a scientist.

Captain Highwind

01-27-2009, 04:17 PM

Ingrates, Orihime should have never healed those two,

Agreed, I think they are the incarnation of just about everything that makes obnoxious characters...obnoxious. Somebody pick them off soon.

For once, Ishida's fighting someone who isn't a scientist.

I'm guessing he has to fight whatever's hanging in Grantz' locker?

EDIT: Oh wait, no, we're past that part aren't we? So I guess I'll have to wait for who knows how long before they get to that mystery.

FireStarterLE

01-27-2009, 04:33 PM

343

For once, Ishida's fighting someone who isn't a scientist.

Albeit with the aid of a scientist.

Ok I swear, if he has trouble with this guy he just needs to give up being a fighter.

He must be fighting him in order to gain his confidence back.
:)

Grave

01-28-2009, 08:55 AM

Ok I swear, if he has trouble with this guy he just needs to give up being a fighter.

He must be fighting him in order to gain his confidence back.
:)
I'm of the opinion that Renji's the one that needs to redeem himself. The failure that he's turned out to be.

thenewme93

01-28-2009, 12:31 PM

I thought we established that Renji and Uryuu are the Tien and Yamcha of Bleach, they always get screwed over.

Captain Highwind

01-28-2009, 12:38 PM

I'm of the opinion that Renji's the one that needs to redeem himself. The failure that he's turned out to be.

I'm thinking Renji needs a new weapon, or maybe just go back to the basics and get a plain old one-piece sword. A whip sword looks good for melee and evens the fight by clearing a large number of small pickings off the field, but against a single boss it lacks accuracy.

1 of 3

01-28-2009, 03:24 PM

I'm a little disappointed with the contiuned random people showing up in this fight. I understood Loly and Menoly (though I don't really thnk it was needed). But now Yammy and then Ishida is really just getting crazy.

Plus, it really seems like it's robbing a chance for Orihime to shine and manage to defend herself...

...

Ok, ok, I'll admit it. The shallow shipper in me also doesn't like this new development because I'm worried Kubo's going to use this fight to "switch" Orihime's attraction from Ichigo to Ishida.

BigBear

01-28-2009, 04:08 PM

I thought we established that Renji and Uryuu are the Tien and Yamcha of Bleach, they always get screwed over.

Odd, I had Renji pegged as the Vegeta of Bleach.

thenewme93

01-28-2009, 04:15 PM

Ok, ok, I'll admit it. The shallow shipper in me also doesn't like this new development because I'm worried Kubo's going to use this fight to "switch" Orihime's attraction from Ichigo to Ishida.

Since when has Orihime shown attraction to Ishida?

thenewme93

01-28-2009, 04:17 PM

Odd, I had Renji pegged as the Vegeta of Bleach.

Nope...that's Toshiro... because Toshiro and Vegeta were both popular in their manga even though they barely win their fights..Renji's popularity is waning.

1 of 3

01-28-2009, 04:26 PM

Since when has Orihime shown attraction to Ishida?

She hasn't, but it seemed he could have had a crush on her back in the SS arc.

Grave

01-28-2009, 04:32 PM

I had Chad and Ishida pegged as Tien and Yamcha, while I Renji is Piccolo.

Beat

01-28-2009, 05:49 PM

She hasn't, but it seemed he could have had a crush on her back in the SS arc.

That was forever ago.

And Orhime defend herself. LOL. Although if she ever does become evil, I expect her to be end-boss tier.

Mett

01-28-2009, 07:24 PM

With all the switching from fight to fight, when will we ever see one finished?

Luna

01-28-2009, 11:06 PM

Ok, I'll admit it. The shallow shipper in me also doesn't like this new development because I'm worried Kubo's going to use this fight to "switch" Orihime's attraction from Ichigo to Ishida. :mad: God,I hope not....I hate the Orihime x Ishida pairing almost as much as I do Ichigo X Rukia (it's annoyingly popular with the Bleach fandom,too,as far as I've seen)....The "Soul Society" arc established that he may have a slight crush on her,but she's completely oblivious to it,and besides it's been pretty well established from the beginning of the series that she's in love with Ichigo (and in Soul Society arc that Renji's in love with Rukia)....

1 of 3

01-29-2009, 12:20 AM

:mad: God,I hope not....I hate the Orihime x Ishida pairing almost as much as I do Ichigo X Rukia (it's annoyingly popular with the Bleach fandom,too,as far as I've seen)....The "Soul Society" arc established that he may have a slight crush on her,but she's completely oblivious to it,and besides it's been pretty well established from the beginning of the series that she's in love with Ichigo (and in Soul Society arc that Renji's in love with Rukia)....

I use to be fine with IchigoxRukia during the SS arc, but since it ended, it seems like they've gradually been slipping more and more towards being a Takahashi Couple*, and frankly I am just so tired of those romances, cause they're in every freakin' shonen.

*that is, as I'm sure some of you know, Rumika Takahashi, author of Ranma 1/2, Inuyasha, Maison Ikkoku, etc, who always has as her lead couple a tsundere and jerk with a heart of gold/idiot hero.

Luna

01-29-2009, 12:48 AM

I use to be fine with IchigoxRukia during the SS arc, but since it ended, it seems like they've gradually been slipping more and more towards being a Takahashi Couple*, and frankly I am just so tired of those romances, cause they're in every freakin' shonen.

*that is, as I'm sure some of you know, Rumika Takahashi, author of Ranma 1/2, Inuyasha, Maison Ikkoku, etc, who always has as her lead couple a tsundere and jerk with a heart of gold/idiot hero. The reason I hate the Ichigo X Rukia pairing is because they've NEVER shown romantic interest in one another....that is,they care alot about each other,but it's never been shown to be in a romantic way (if that's the way Kubo wants them seen,he officially sucks at writing romance),they act more like siblings when they fight,not in the "Takahashi-esque...I-hate-you-so-much -(but secretly love you)" way....
I don't mind the main characters in a series ending up together if it actually makes sense (I have a huge soft spot for Inuyasha X Kagome,and lately kinda like Naruto X Sakura) but pairing Ichigo X Rukia up is the equivalent of pairing Harry and Hermione from the Harry Potter books together (illogical since they never show romantic interest in one another, both have another love interest that makes more sense for them to be with) thankfully J.K. Rowling had the common sense not to pair Harry and Hermione togther simply because the fandom loved it....I can't say the same for Kubo and the Ichigo X Rukia and Orihime X Ishida pairings (if he does it,I'm giving up on the series...I'd feel way too bad for Renji,who is my favorite character)....

Blaster144

01-29-2009, 01:11 AM

Heh. I don't really "ship." I read fan fics that have different ships in them and as long as they make sense, I don't really care all that much... However when those ships are in there just because "they are destined to be to gether," I do have issues.

Hmm. How in the world did I end up on this soapbox? :o

Erm, heh, getting Hopefully onto topic...Well, I haven't read my copy of Bleach lately, but I did like seeing Ichigo in that frilly apron washing dishes while he was training with the Vizards.

FlyByNite77

01-29-2009, 02:17 AM

Here's my feelings on romantic relationships and this goes for Naruto as well. I really hate it how people talk about "Well back in the first 10 chapters we've clearly established that this person or that person has feelings for so and so. So we BY GODS have to adhere to this and pair them up.

People change. Just because someone is your first crush doesn't mean you end up with them, or even end up dating them.

I swear if some of you guys trying to enforce Bleach to adhere to crushes from the the beginning of the story or Naruto, had been involved with the original Macross there's no way that Hikaru would have ended up with Misa. He starts off the show in love with Minmei so WE HAVE TO stick to that!

and no I'm not talking about sudden declarations of love at this point, but I see no reason why characters can't be put into situations where you can logically see how the feelings of one character shifting to someone else.

Beat

01-29-2009, 07:52 AM

The bigger issue here is that most of the non-SS cast (and even a few of them) are jobbers on a Brooklyn Brawler level. Orihime in particular couldn't beat a slightly agitated ant. Why this is done is pretty simple, it makes the few guys who do win look good. But to expect these losers to actually win fights is like expecting the Detroit Lions to win the Super Bowl.

I still believe though, that Kubo's been hinting at making Orihime evil, which will hopefully include a significant increase in power.

1 of 3

01-29-2009, 12:16 PM

Full spoilers are out.

Seems like Yammy is there just to be obnoxious and then get beat by Ishida.

That would be fine, but it's annoying that it had to interrupt the psychological angle going on in Ichigo and Ulquiorra's fight with Orihime.

Rocketboy

01-29-2009, 02:38 PM

Judging from the titles since the fight started, it looks like the fight will be 7 chapters.

1 of 3

01-29-2009, 04:01 PM

Hmm,

341 - The Envy: Loly and Menoly wanting to take down Orihime
342 - The Greed: Loly and Menoly's motives still*
343- The Gluttony: Yammy just doing what he feels like dealing out a beating on L&M for his own amusement

next chapters

344 - The Sloth: Yammy release (get it)
345 - The Pride: Quincy wins, Ichigo uses his mask
346 - The Wrath: Ulquiorra releases, Ichigo gets beat down, heeeere's Hichigo
347 - The Lust: Hichigo goes nuts attacking everyone

*or another kinda vague interpretation is it's refering to Ichigo wanting to beat Ulquiorra by himself and turning down Orihime's help

Neo Ultra Mike

01-29-2009, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by 1 of 3
Full spoilers are out.

Seems like Yammy is there just to be obnoxious and then get beat by Ishida.

That would be fine, but it's annoying that it had to interrupt the psychological angle going on in Ichigo and Ulquiorra's fight with Orihime.

Not to mention that if there was any character who actually needed to come back to prove themself by defeating Yammy, it wasn't Uryu. He already had his own full fledged Privarion Espada fight and besides Ichigo is the only one out of the main group to take out a Soul Society captain. Renji and Chad would of been better choices. IMHO Chad would be best since he already got whupped by Yammy so this would be a good revenge fight and show how far he's come though Renji has never really won a full on battle all by himself (supposedly he would of lost against Yfartodo Granz if he didn't surprise him with his full power and only lasted so long against him do to Ururu randomly kicking Grazn around). I still think Orihimie should just finally toughen up and take down the three of them herself but since we're still in the "Orihimie can't fight for crap" part of the story (please tell me there's a part beyond that for her character Kubo) guess that won't happen.

Well for those of you who do want Yammy alive though, you'll get your wish: Uryu is like Ichigo when it actually comes off to finishing opponents nowadays: "Oh I'll beat you but I'll just leave you there and not finish the job cause I'm a p****" Uryu claims it though that he has Quincy pride but really it's just him following the "we're the main heroes so we have to beat up the baddies without killing them" rule. Which is why I like battles in truth with Soul Society better since they always at least try to KILL who they're fighting or at least give good reasons on why they wouldn't.

Beat

01-29-2009, 06:33 PM

There are most likely mosquitoes in this manga that could easily defeat Orihime. As long as she's a heroine, I refuse to classify any conflict she's in a fight as much as it is a kidnapping.

Chad and Renji are basically the Yamcha and Tien of this story. Useless cannon fodder for the opening act. But at least they try, unlike Weakehime.

Captain Highwind

01-29-2009, 08:02 PM

Trying to imagine Yammy's release. Most of the releases are animal-based...maybe a hippo?

garfield15

01-29-2009, 09:29 PM

Chad and Renji are basically the Yamcha and Tien of this story. Useless cannon fodder for the opening act
Which really annoys me since they used to be so important in the beginning. And Renji is one of my favorite characters(well not even Chad really. He's the Yamcha since he only won one fight...wait did Yamcha ever win a fight?)

Rolling Cloud

01-29-2009, 09:32 PM

Which really annoys me since they used to be so important in the beginning. And Renji is one of my favorite characters(well not even Chad really. He's the Yamcha since he only won one fight...wait did Yamcha ever win a fight?)

I guess you could say that he won the Invisible Man fight in Dragonball.

Lelouch

01-29-2009, 10:01 PM

Which really annoys me since they used to be so important in the beginning. And Renji is one of my favorite characters(well not even Chad really. He's the Yamcha since he only won one fight...wait did Yamcha ever win a fight?)

I think eventually Chad's power will extend to his whole body instead of just his arms. If and when this happens, Chad will be really powerful. Hey, I can hope, can't I?

Beat

01-29-2009, 10:12 PM

I think eventually Chad's power will extend to his whole body instead of just his arms. If and when this happens, Chad will be really powerful. Hey, I can hope, can't I?

Sure, and Orihime will actually be able to defend herself.

Rud

01-30-2009, 06:56 AM

Mark my words, by the end of this manga Chad will be at least the 4 strongest guy in the entire manga left alive.

Dammit Uryu, stop taking help from your mortal enemy, and when did he have time to place a land mine!??

XOMiss_Samantha

01-30-2009, 07:46 AM

Yammy is so ridiculously obnoxious. Lord. I love how Ulquorra trys to lightly tell him to leave because he'll only get in the way- I mean, how could he not he's like an elephant with the way he presents himself. He's got quite the potty mouth too. Bleeek.
Uryu! :3 The last page was pretty awesome, with the explosion behind him and all. So cool.
I sense Renji-hate on the previous page somewhere.... =[ So he's not the most impressive guy in the group, he's still awesome!