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Kaiser0120
09-14-2007, 07:21 PM
Overpowered characters are reduced to teachers, usually getting only one fight, which they own righteously of course.
And owning righteously she is. Holy crap, this is a cool fight. XD
Her breasts look sort of weird though... Hmm...
Kyuss
09-14-2007, 07:48 PM
Kaiser,
I refuse to comment on a woman's mammary glands on the grounds it's not my place.
But yes Nel is truly owning and proving the ranking of 3rd.
Sparticus
09-14-2007, 11:38 PM
Whoa, Lazor Chargin/Fire'n is cannon! :eek:
Go Nel go!!! :D
Kyuss
09-15-2007, 04:57 PM
Nice catch and release by Nel. If her day job as the former 3rd Espada doesn't work out, I honestly see a place for her in women's professional sports.
laactor101
09-15-2007, 10:12 PM
Great fight that's all I have to say
Rocketboy
09-20-2007, 11:26 AM
http://i7.tinypic.com/4v483nr.jpg
So Ichigo died the way we all knew he would.
Sparticus
09-20-2007, 11:39 AM
http://i7.tinypic.com/4v483nr.jpg
So Ichigo died the way we all knew he would.
OMG!!! XD WIN!!! I knew she was gonna break his brain! I knew it! I knew it!!! Huzzah!!! :D
GWOtaku
09-21-2007, 06:58 PM
Chapter 292...
Nnoitra still isn't dead. The excuse is that the espada have gotten stronger since Nell left--yeah, okay. The fight against Aporro drags on some more. I yawn in boredom.
Next week supposedly marks the end of the Nnoitra battle and a color page. At this point, I'd accept stick figures in exchange for some meaningful progress.
Captain Highwind
09-21-2007, 08:16 PM
Next week supposedly marks the end of the Nnoitra battle and a color page. At this point, I'd accept stick figures in exchange for some meaningful progress.
It's gonna happen eventually. I mean, Nnoitra and Aporro are the only ones left. Unless those other 3 or 4 Espadas want to challenge them, but they look more like they're just going to stay back and watch.
But something significant needs to happen after these two fights. IT REALLY DOES.
Kyuss
09-22-2007, 02:21 AM
Highwind,
Perhaps we'll have #2s and #1 then. Unless there's another #3... That hardly seems likely with Nel still being number 3.
Captain Highwind
09-22-2007, 02:33 AM
Highwind,
Perhaps we'll have #2s and #1 then. Unless there's another #3... That hardly seems likely with Nel still being number 3.
They replace their rank when they kick 'em out.
Kyuss
09-22-2007, 02:43 AM
Very well then. That then leaves 1 through 3 that have yet to be shown. Perhaps they will get their moments in the sun, so to speak.
Mr. Obsession
09-22-2007, 03:57 AM
We still don’t know who #7 is. Plus Yammy’s been pretty absent lately.
FlyByNite77
09-22-2007, 06:19 AM
I wonder if Nel can become stronger without Aizen's help, not saying that she can't beat Noitara even though he's become powered up.
I dunno why, but I thought the tattoo thing was started by Aizen, but going from the translation Nel has been in child-form for a few years so she wasn't there when Aizen popped into Hueco Mondo so I guess that could bring about a Hollow resistance to Aizen. Guess Grimjaw could get onboard that thing.
I love that page with Nel running back and hugging Ichigo into unconsciousness and Orihime looking on embarressed and then going back and forth between worry for Ichigo and upset at Nel. Poor Orihime-chan I think the Ichigo harem is indeed +1
MessyB
09-22-2007, 11:32 AM
Nnoitra saying the Espada have gotten stronger since Nel left sounds a lot like Soifon saying she's gotten stronger since Yoruichi left.
And I'm OK with that. I -like- the mirroring of the SS arc. It's highlighting the fact that SS itself has some serious flaws, that it can seem to similar to Hueco Mundo.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-22-2007, 12:00 PM
And Bleach goes further down the tubes. We're months removed from anything of note happening now, Nel vs Nnoitra is just boring, and Renji/Ishida vs Szayelapporo has gone on far too long to care about.
Captain Highwind
09-22-2007, 12:16 PM
And Bleach goes further down the tubes. We're months removed from anything of note happening now, Nel vs Nnoitra is just boring, and Renji/Ishida vs Szayelapporo has gone on far too long to care about.
But don't you want to see the true power of Fornicarus?
KuwabaraTheMan
09-22-2007, 12:34 PM
But don't you want to see the true power of Fornicarus?
About as much as I want to see Ishida, Renji, Dodonchika, and Pesche have some type of kinky foursome.:shrug:
laactor101
09-22-2007, 02:01 PM
But don't you want to see the true power of Fornicarus?
:tom: says :lol: Anyways...
Not an great chapter but an okay one I guess. The fight has gotten boring hopefully next week's will be the end of Nnoitra because he's kinda of annoying the hell out of everyone.
Kyuss
09-22-2007, 04:32 PM
This chapter isn't as bad as some Inuyasha filler.
Lighthammer
09-22-2007, 07:48 PM
We still don’t know who #7 is. Plus Yammy’s been pretty absent lately.
I've actually been assuming (maybe wrongfully) that Luppi took up #7 before #6. In which case, #7 is now dead.
Is it me or are the chapters getting shorter and shorter each week?
Don_East
09-22-2007, 09:19 PM
Is it me or are the chapters getting shorter and shorter each week?
I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting shorter.
Captain Highwind
09-22-2007, 10:57 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting shorter.
Soon it will be nothing but one sentence per chapter! D:
Ichigo: I'm gonna beat you Ulquiorra!
"Next Chapter: Ulquiorra makes a witty come back! --In color pages!"
*Next chapter ends up being only half a page colored*
Mr. Obsession
09-22-2007, 11:00 PM
I've actually been assuming (maybe wrongfully) that Luppi took up #7 before #6. In which case, #7 is now dead.The only dead Espada is Aaroniero, and so far we haven't seen Aizen promote another to Espada status, outside of when Luppy took over for Grimmjow's position.
There were ten shown at Aizen’s little tea party in Chapters 244 and 245, which happened after Luppy bit it:
Ulquiorra (#4)
Nnoitra (#5)
Grimmjow (#6)
Szayel (#8)
Aaroniero (#9)
Yammy (#10)
And the four as of yet who haven’t had their ranks revealed:
Halibel
Stark
The unnamed old man
And the unnamed black man
I was under the impression that these ten have been the Espada since Aizen left Soul Society, possibly earlier. Except when Luppy temporarily replaced Grimmjow.
Kyuss
09-23-2007, 01:58 AM
I'm reasonable certain we will find out before the Winter War arc people keep spouting about.
Captain Highwind
09-29-2007, 12:22 AM
Bleach 293
Hm. Voodoo dolls.
Well, I guess that's not so bad. Looked like it hurt though. Poor Ishida. :(
Mr. Obsession
09-29-2007, 01:23 AM
I bet Mayuri wishes he had Voodoo Dolls.
Hero count:
Rukia's dying
Chad's TKO'd
Orihime's more or less recaptured
Ichigo's sword arm is broken
and now Ishida seems to have a ruptured stomach.
Everything's seems to be riding on Renji, Nel, Dondo and Pesshe now. Barring immediate backup, or Aizen sparing them for his own amusement/plans, I don't see how they're all going to get out of Hueco Mundo.
Then again, how many characters have died during the course of the story so far? Yeah...
laactor101
09-29-2007, 12:46 PM
Agreed it about that time where everyone just needs to get the hell up out of Huedo Mundo Quickly before they die!!!
Captain Highwind
09-29-2007, 12:49 PM
Agreed it about that time where everyone just needs to get the hell up out of Huedo Mundo Quickly before they die!!!
It's gonna be hard for Ishida to do that now. He doesn't have a stomach and Orihime's on the other side of Hueco Mundo. o.o
And Renji's too stupid to do anything.
Honestly, this has to be the most pathetic fight in all of Bleach.
laactor101
09-29-2007, 02:16 PM
It's gonna be hard for Ishida to do that now. He doesn't have a stomach and Orihime's on the other side of Hueco Mundo. o.o
And Renji's too stupid to do anything.
Honestly, this has to be the most pathetic fight in all of Bleach.
oh Okay then Looks like everyone screwed for a bit until... what I don't know I don't write the series.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-29-2007, 02:50 PM
At least this is slightly more interesting than Ichigo vs Grimmjow Round 3, or the crappy Nel vs Nnoitra fight. But it's still dragging out far too long. I want to just see Renji figure out a way to beat Szayelapporo and be done with it in a week or two.
Kaiser0120
09-29-2007, 02:55 PM
At least this is slightly more interesting than Ichigo vs Grimmjow Round 3, or the crappy Nel vs Nnoitra fight. But it's still dragging out far too long. I want to just see Renji figure out a way to beat Szayelapporo and be done with it in a week or two.
Crappy Nel vs. Nnoitra fight? This fight has actually been kick ass, I think
KuwabaraTheMan
09-29-2007, 02:57 PM
Crappy Nel vs. Nnoitra fight? This fight has actually been kick ass, I think
There's no real emotional attachment, and it just winds up seeming cluttered to me. Maybe it will look sweet in animated form, though.
laactor101
09-29-2007, 06:09 PM
If You say so just about every fight in this arc will be awesome as long as Pierrot doesn't make it look cheap
Rocketboy
09-29-2007, 08:00 PM
There's no real emotional attachment, and it just winds up seeming cluttered to me. Maybe it will look sweet in animated form, though.
There might be next chapter, what with Nnoitra's "You haven't changed" line.
Baseball
09-29-2007, 09:21 PM
If You say so just about every fight in this arc will be awesome as long as Pierrot doesn't make it look cheap
With the way Pierrot has been animating Bleach lately, I doubt they'll make it look cheap. Grimmjow's beatdowns on Ichigo are 100 times more interesting in the anime than they are in the manga.
Rocketboy
10-03-2007, 11:29 PM
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So, Nnoitora used to be 8, hated that a woman was stronger than him, so he broke her mask, rendering her useless with Szyeal's help. Also, it seems that Dondo and Pesshe were in Nell's fraccon, and got their masks broken too.
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So, Nnoitora used to be 8, hated that a woman was stronger than him, so he broke her mask, rendering her useless with Szyeal's help. Also, it seems that Dondo and Pesshe were in Nell's fraccon, and got their masks broken too.
Seems like it was a pretty good chapter to me.
laactor101
10-05-2007, 06:27 PM
Didn't Know that he was an sexist
FireStarterLE
10-05-2007, 10:45 PM
would seem like Noi's time is almost up .... he didn't get stronger than Nell like he had hoped, and his ultimate defeat will prove that (which I'm guessing will happen within the next few chapters)
Mr. Obsession
10-05-2007, 11:22 PM
If Nnoitra was previously the 8th Espada, and he's now the 5th, did he actually become stronger as he claims, or are the Espada members gradually become weaker with each replacement? The former would make the most sense, but I can't stop thinking about the latter, as I find it the far more interesting possibility.
It's curious that Nnoitra's Arrancar Zanpakuto has changed over time.
Finally, I have to wonder about Dondo and Pesshe. If their masks were broken, and they were tossed out of Los Noches with Nel, are they in some sort of transformed state like Nel was? If so, does this mean will see them revert to their former selves soon, helping Renji defeat Szayel and finally providing a light at the end of this particular tunnel, no matter how small.
Also, I find it highly suspicious that Kubo purposely avoided showing their faces.
Malex
10-06-2007, 02:39 AM
I did not notice any mention about Nnoitra's rank in the flashback. It could be possible that he was weaker but not three ranks weaker. I am also getting confused on this timeline. The flashback was allegedly years ago yet we see the current Espada being part of the old Espada. I thought the top ten before Aizen came along were forced to become the Privaron Espada. I am too confused right now.
Kaiser0120
10-06-2007, 05:25 AM
I did not notice any mention about Nnoitra's rank in the flashback. It could be possible that he was weaker but not three ranks weaker.
Look at his tongue. :3
Malex
10-06-2007, 01:15 PM
Look at his tongue. :3
Indeed, that looks like the number eight on his tongue. I am now on the Arrancar-can-get-stronger-from-some-kind-of-training theory bandwagon.
KuwabaraTheMan
10-06-2007, 01:49 PM
I don't think all 10 were necessarily replaced when Aizen came along. Perhaps Nnoitra and Szayelapporo are two of the only ones who were strong enough to stay in the Espada.
This chapter was a little more interesting than the last few ones, but I really just wish Kubo would pick up the pace. Renji and Ishida have been in that fight for like 7 months now.
laactor101
10-06-2007, 01:51 PM
I don't think all 10 were necessarily replaced when Aizen came along. Perhaps Nnoitra and Szayelapporo are two of the only ones who were strong enough to stay in the Espada.
This chapter was a little more interesting than the last few ones, but I really just wish Kubo would pick up the pace. Renji and Ishida have been in that fight for like 7 months now.
You never know it could be dragged on for 3 more months!!
RomanMack
10-08-2007, 09:24 PM
I've heard that the current Bleach chapters have been terrible and that the series seems to be going downhill. Is that true?
Malex
10-08-2007, 11:04 PM
Yes, it has being going downhill since Team Kurosaki entered Las Noches. With two characters' statuses unknown for months and a couple of fights going on for months, Tite Kubo is dragging the story. We have Ichigo stuck in an endless cycle of fight an Espada, the Espada is incapacitated, repeat which is worsened with the slow advancement per chapter. People all over the internet are hanging on the idea that the Winter War will give the manga its second wind, but I doubt that Kubo is really saving anything for the future. He's stalling yet the anime is catching up quickly. Hopefully, that rumored "Forest of Menos" filler arc will give more time for Kubo to stall or to get his act together.
EDIT: 1,300th Post.../fanfare
hi.. everyone! is there plan for the third movie of bleach? what i know is the 2nd movie which be aired in japan in December of this year...
KuwabaraTheMan
10-09-2007, 04:17 AM
Yes, it has being going downhill since Team Kurosaki entered Las Noches. With two characters' statuses unknown for months and a couple of fights going on for months, Tite Kubo is dragging the story. We have Ichigo stuck in an endless cycle of fight an Espada, the Espada is incapacitated, repeat which is worsened with the slow advancement per chapter. People all over the internet are hanging on the idea that the Winter War will give the manga its second wind, but I doubt that Kubo is really saving anything for the future.
Well, the Winter War would at least bring the whole cast to the forefront. One other thing that's hurt this arc is that there's been no focus on anyone else. Ichigo, Ishida and Renji have taken all the screen time, so there's no chance to switch things up a bit, which we could at least do during the Winter War.
Otherwise, I completely agree.
Twists that make no sense, fights with no meaning, and that drag on for months. We're at least at 6-7 for Ishida/Renji vs Szayel now, and no end in sight.
And we've had Rukia 'thought dead, but unknown' almost all year, and Chad's been unconscious since late last year, I think. Or start of this year at the latest.
EDIT: 1,300th Post.../fanfareYou signed up two months before me, yet I'm about to get my 11,300th. Pick up the slack, Yonni.:p
Malex
10-09-2007, 01:09 PM
You signed up two months before me, yet I'm about to get my 11,300th. Pick up the slack, Yonni.:p
Quality over Quantity, Tony. ;)
silverfox1027
10-11-2007, 01:34 AM
Ugh, I've finally caught up with Bleach, but those hours were definitely not worth it. These fights have been going on forever. And what the hell is going on with Rukia and Chad?! I want to know, Tite Kubo!
Nnoitra needs to die next chapter. Seriously. I'm really tired of this fight.
I can stand the Renji/Ishida team battle, though, because my love for them makes up for Kubo's apparent lack of creativity.
Rocketboy
10-11-2007, 09:29 AM
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This game's winner is.. Szyael Aporro Grantz! Get ready to become research material Renji and Ishida.
Mr. Obsession
10-11-2007, 12:08 PM
You know, I think I'm actually satisfied with that outcome. Sure it's not the one I was expecting, but thank God it's finally over.
Rocketboy
10-11-2007, 01:40 PM
Now there's another spoiler out there saying that Peshe and Dondo go into action since Nell did. If that one is true, then I'm wondering what their true forms look like.
Malex
10-11-2007, 03:30 PM
Now there's another spoiler out there saying that Peshe and Dondo go into action since Nell did. If that one is true, then I'm wondering what their true forms look like.
Chaka and Pell from One Piece's Alabasta arc complete with Devil's fruit abilities. ;)
Mr. Obsession
10-13-2007, 12:18 AM
Damnit. The Szyael fight still isn't completely over.
Still it was interesting to find out that Szyael was a former Espada when he helped Nnoitra take out Nel.
laactor101
10-13-2007, 02:49 PM
Damnit. The Szyael fight still isn't completely over.
Still it was interesting to find out that Szyael was a former Espada when he helped Nnoitra take out Nel.
Guess So...
GWOtaku
10-13-2007, 04:19 PM
Finally! It looks like things might start to pick up next week, starting with Nel's release.
KuwabaraTheMan
10-14-2007, 12:47 PM
Yet another relatively boring chapter, but hopefully these two battles will come to an end now, and we can get the hell out of Hueco Mondo.
Just grab Chad and go.
Mr. Obsession
10-14-2007, 11:59 PM
Just grab Chad and go.What? And leave Rukia bleeding on the floor?
KuwabaraTheMan
10-15-2007, 12:02 AM
What? And leave Rukia bleeding on the floor?
Rukia's already dead according to the manga.
No big loss. She was the worst character in the whole series, anyway.
Mr. Obsession
10-15-2007, 01:04 AM
She's dead according to Szyael, who was using it to taunt Renji. Ichigo, Renji, and Ishida all seem to think otherwise.
Considering how many other main characters Kubo's killed off so far I'll believe it when actual proof is shown in the manga.
KuwabaraTheMan
10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
Considering how many other main characters Kubo's killed off so far I'll believe it when actual proof is shown in the manga.
Oh, I know that no one dies in Bleach.
...But let me have my hope, dammit!! ><
Rukia's already dead according to the manga.
No big loss. She was the worst character in the whole series, anyway.
Are you crazy without Rukia is one of the well based characters around that deserve to die. If anyone should die it should be Chad!
GWOtaku
10-15-2007, 09:55 AM
Even if Rukia is dead, would it matter? Given what we know about Inoue's power, she could probably restore her. Remember, she's demonstrated the ability to restore something from nothing.
silverfox1027
10-15-2007, 06:57 PM
Rukia's already dead according to the manga.
No big loss. She was the worst character in the whole series, anyway.
LOL Rukia's dead? I'll believe it when I see it.
She better not be, anyway. She one of my favorite characters.
Orihime and Chad should die instead. XD
Captain Highwind
10-15-2007, 10:59 PM
Run away, Orihime and Chad! D:
KuwabaraTheMan
10-16-2007, 12:14 PM
Orihime and Chad can't die. They're some of the best characters in the series.
Getting rid of Rukia would be a good thing, though. She's the worst character in the whole manga, hands down. Or at least, come up with some way to keep her permanently out of the story. That'd work just as well.
silverfox1027
10-16-2007, 12:26 PM
Orihime and Chad can't die. They're some of the best characters in the series.
Getting rid of Rukia would be a good thing, though. She's the worst character in the whole manga, hands down. Or at least, come up with some way to keep her permanently out of the story. That'd work just as well.
So you really hate her, huh? That's too bad, because even if she dies, she would still be mentioned a lot in flashbacks and such. She's not going away. :p
Orihime had potential to be a good character, but Kubo killed it. And Chad...well...he's just boring.
KuwabaraTheMan
10-16-2007, 12:58 PM
So you really hate her, huh? That's too bad, because even if she dies, she would still be mentioned a lot in flashbacks and such. She's not going away. :p
Orihime had potential to be a good character, but Kubo killed it. And Chad...well...he's just boring.
I can hope, dammit! ><
Also, she's 'been away' for almost this whole year, and no one has really seemed to care. I realize there's less than a 1% chance of Rukia being dead, but it's still nice to dream of a Bleach without her.
I think Orihime has built well on her potential. She could use a bit more screen time, but she's always a fun character, and she has more depth than any of the other Bleach females, as well.
Chad is just awesome. But I always like the characters like him, anyway. I want to see more of Chad in the next arc, because of what a great character he is. And he has the most depth of the Karakura Town characters.
Baseball
10-17-2007, 03:05 PM
Wow. So Renji has been dealing with Szayel Aporro for 31 chapters so far. Man, he's never been good at anything.
Also, I miss Chad. He always gets screwed over at the beginning of arcs...
Captain Highwind
10-17-2007, 06:13 PM
Also, I miss Chad. He always gets screwed over at the beginning of arcs...
Still waiting for him to grow that Samus Aran full-body armor and kick royal ass.
You know it's coming.™
laactor101
10-17-2007, 07:25 PM
Run away, Orihime and Chad! D:
:lol:
Baseball
10-17-2007, 07:46 PM
If you guys have seen the new ending, anyone else think that all of the people scrolling at the side are going to end up dead (temporarily, perhaps)? Dordonii and his posse were dealt with, Rukia's dead, Szayel Aporro's as good as dead, Chad got slashed across his chest (again), Ishida's got a few vitals destroyed, and Aaroniero's toast.
If you guys have seen the new ending, anyone else think that all of the people scrolling at the side are going to end up dead (temporarily, perhaps)? Dordonii and his posse were dealt with, Rukia's dead, Szayel Aporro's as good as dead, Chad got slashed across his chest (again), Ishida's got a few vitals destroyed, and Aaroniero's toast.
I just took it as indication for all the people who were getting into some scuffles at the very beginning of the arc from last year.
Rocketboy
10-17-2007, 11:22 PM
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Nell ith back, if you catsh my drift.
Also Dondo and Pesshe double cero Szyael, and that's cool.
Anime Freak
10-18-2007, 04:27 AM
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Nell ith back, if you catsh my drift.
Also Dondo and Pesshe double cero Szyael, and that's cool.
double cero ? whats that mean?
Malex
10-18-2007, 02:02 PM
double cero ? whats that mean?
Dondo and Pesshe both blasted ceros at Szayel Aporro.
rubberchicken
10-18-2007, 09:41 PM
I think I'll just forget about Bleach and come back in a couple of months when something has hopefully happened. Soul Society was so much easier to stomach when I could just sit down and take it in all at once instead of waiting a week for minuscule/nonexistent developments...
silverfox1027
10-19-2007, 12:21 AM
I think I'll just forget about Bleach and come back in a couple of months when something has hopefully happened. Soul Society was so much easier to stomach when I could just sit down and take it in all at once instead of waiting a week for minuscule/nonexistent developments...
Totally with you. Bleach is really terrible right now. Maybe this would be a good time to try out a new manga.
Captain Highwind
10-19-2007, 12:37 AM
Totally with you. Bleach is really terrible right now. Maybe this would be a good time to try out a new manga.
Sitting through the SS arc on Adult Swim, I can see that the pacing has always been about the same.
This is why action manga should not be reduced to a handful of pages a week.
1 of 3
10-19-2007, 12:43 PM
Sitting through the SS arc on Adult Swim, I can see that the pacing has always been about the same.
This is why action manga should not be reduced to a handful of pages a week.
Not that Bleach's current arc isn't horribly slow, but I think a lot of people who read online get spoiled by being able to get through older arcs quickly and then the wait for new chapters hits. I find it's better to wait for it to come out in book form helps somewhat, though I still sometimes found myself thinking when is this arc going to end (to be fair though this has applied to other series, particularly a lot of One Piece and the Dark tournament).
Still, I did get a laugh out of Syzeal and Uryu's reaction to Pessche's sword.
Baseball
10-19-2007, 01:17 PM
Considering that Nnoitra hasn't even released yet, this fight will probably last around six more chapters. Still, it's moving so slow. I don't even care anymore about it, really.
laactor101
10-19-2007, 07:25 PM
Kubo must be feeling the heat... I Guess stay along until I bored of reading Bleach but don't forget It's about to hit it's 300th chapter in an couple weeks
Lol at Ichigo's face at pg 8
digilover15
10-19-2007, 07:26 PM
what's that thing that the gang is on that saved them from falling. I am talking about the sheet. it looks like a scarf
RomanMack
10-19-2007, 07:27 PM
what's that thing that the gang is on that saved them from falling. I am talking about the sheet. it looks like a scarfThis doesn't deserve it's own thread...
It's just some magic thing Urahara used.
Rocketboy
10-19-2007, 07:44 PM
Well, this was a pretty good chapter. Better than what we were getting before. I laughed when Szyeal looked at Pesshe grabbing his sword.
And for the first time in a while, the chapter ended making me want more. I mean, what's going to happen? Ichigo's beaten down, Orihime is still held by Tesla, and all the other members of the team are no where near the location. What's going to happen?
Captain Highwind
10-19-2007, 09:40 PM
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Nel pops back into her weak body,
And Mr. Highwind says s***.
-_-
DBZALLSTAR
10-19-2007, 09:48 PM
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Nel pops back into her weak body,
And Mr. Highwind says s***.
-_-
As do we all.:D
I understand that Kubo wants to put as much detail as possible into his story, but how long will it be until the anime catches up with the manga? I've heard that we may see some more filler soon, and while not all filler is bad, it shouldn't be necessary.
GWOtaku
10-19-2007, 10:24 PM
Good lord, this is irritating. At least the Aporro fight is going somewhere.
FireStarterLE
10-19-2007, 11:54 PM
if they've had a healer standing right beside them this entire fight and Ichigo is still injured (and unable to fight) in the next chapter, I'm going to scream
Kyuss
10-19-2007, 11:55 PM
Perhaps Orihime has run out of spells per day...
FireStarterLE
10-20-2007, 12:21 AM
Perhaps Orihime has run out of spells per day...
well if that's possible, maybe she at least had a chance to heal either Ichigo or Grimmjow.
Nel releases and powers down in the same chapter? I thought this was supposed to be slow pacing ......
Kyuss
10-20-2007, 12:42 AM
LEFirestarter,
Perhaps but we'll see what the "DM" has to say.
Mr. Obsession
10-20-2007, 01:45 AM
I can't decide if Pesshe pulling his sword out of his pants is going to be horrible or awesome when it's animated...two years from now...
Still, I laughed.
Also, with Nel's mask I was expecting a something like a giant mountain goat, maybe something like Ilfort Grantz's bull form. But man, a goat-centaur. I can't say I saw that coming.
if they've had a healer standing right beside them this entire fight and Ichigo is still injured (and unable to fight) in the next chapter, I'm going to scream
Orihime is still held by Tesla
Yeah, the healer isn’t going to be healing anyone any time soon.
Sparticus
10-21-2007, 09:48 PM
Yay Centaur!Nel!!!
XD Pesshe!!!!!! Win...
*sigh* I am sooo glad I've been busy with homework and stuff lately. If it wasn't for real life, the lack of plot would be driving me crazy!
Man... that's like a complete reversal. XD
Rocketboy
10-24-2007, 07:29 AM
Chapter 297
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/mellonear_photos/1193215123576.jpg
I knew Kenpachi would come to kick everyone's asses.
Also, status on Rukia. You'll never believe it, but she's alive.
rubberchicken
10-24-2007, 07:34 AM
Chapter 297
I knew Kenpachi would come to kick everyone's asses.
Suddenly the series became awesome again.
Sparticus
10-24-2007, 09:38 AM
Chapter 297
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/mellonear_photos/1193215123576.jpg
I knew Kenpachi would come to kick everyone's asses.
Also, status on Rukia. You'll never believe it, but she's alive.
WTF!? NO WAI!! D:
You sure that's really real spoiler. KEN-CHAAAAAAN!!! WHOO HA!
Unless is isn't real... >.>
Don_East
10-24-2007, 09:51 AM
Chapter 297
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/mellonear_photos/1193215123576.jpg
I knew Kenpachi would come to kick everyone's asses.
Also, status on Rukia. You'll never believe it, but she's alive.
Woah, I figured the only way for Ichigo's group to survive is for reinforcements. But Kenpachi Zaraki? Did not see that one coming. Please let this be the turning point to bring this arc out of the crapper.
GWOtaku
10-24-2007, 10:14 AM
This would be beyond awesome. The thing is, earlier this year I was once taken in by a fake spoiler that had Zaraki and Mayuri showing up to take on Ulquiorra and Aporro, respectively. So I'll wait for the chapter.
That said, if anyone from soul society were to show up against orders Kenpachi makes the most sense. As a worthy opponent Ichigo would be worth saving to him, and we've seen already that the thrill of the fight is more important to Zaraki than being the good soldier and playing by the rules.
Rocketboy
10-24-2007, 10:44 AM
Also, in the Rukia panel, Black-Car is going to kill her. I wonder who will reinforce her there. (Probably Ukitake.)
Mr. Obsession
10-24-2007, 11:55 AM
I knew Kenpachi would come to kick everyone's asses.It's about damn time. Unless this in Ichigo's mind with his subconscious trying to teach him something, like when he was battling his hollow for dominance.
Please let this be the real deal.
Scirel
10-24-2007, 11:55 AM
Black car? Who is that?
And don`t expect a resolution just because he showed up. We`re gonna get seevral chapters of zaraki flashbacks on how he got bankai first.
Mr. Obsession
10-24-2007, 12:08 PM
Black car? Who is that?The still unnamed dark skinned Espada.
SigmasonicX
10-24-2007, 02:01 PM
The still unnamed dark skinned Espada.
Most people call him Shaq Fu, though >_>.
Anyway, I'm guessing Kenpachi's appearance is just in Ichigo's mind to give him a RESOLVE powerup, like when he fought his hollow side.
Captain Highwind
10-24-2007, 06:02 PM
Most people call him Shaq Fu, though >_>.
Anyway, I'm guessing Kenpachi's appearance is just in Ichigo's mind to give him a RESOLVE powerup, like when he fought his hollow side.
It's probably the real thing. Remember when Kenpachi and Captain Kuchiki showed up at the beginning to tell them not to go? Now Ichigo's going to get his butt popped for not listening.
MeggieMay
10-25-2007, 05:37 AM
Well if this turns out to be a real spoiler then "Yeah!" I also thought some backup showing up might be the only way this story could get out of the rut it was in, so this turn of events makes me happy. I just hope if it's true Kenpachi didn't come alone. It would be very interesting to see who else might make up the "B Team" if it isn't just Kenpachi doing something all on his own :anime:
DBZALLSTAR
10-25-2007, 10:46 AM
Well if this turns out to be a real spoiler then "Yeah!" I also thought some backup showing up might be the only way this story could get out of the rut it was in, so this turn of events makes me happy. I just hope if it's true Kenpachi didn't come alone. It would be very interesting to see who else might make up the "B Team" if it isn't just Kenpachi doing something all on his own :anime:
I don't mind backup, but who's to say that things won't take a turn for the worse for our heroes again?:D Kubo just seems to like messing with our heads by giving us hope and then finding some way for the villains in his story to take it away.
If Kenpachi is really there and not in Ichigo's imagination, I'm ready to see him kick some Arrancar ass!
Captain Highwind
10-25-2007, 11:09 AM
Yeah, so most likely, in my mind:
-The head Shinigami guy wants this Winter War really bad, and he says they need Ichigo's strengths, so Kenpachi's there to collect him and everybody,
-Soul Society still brands Orihime a traitor, so I bet they leave her in the dust
I'm getting weird Gwen Stacy vibes about Orihime. D:
Anime Freak
10-25-2007, 10:49 PM
Chap 297:
AWESOME Chapter!! Hopefully this is a sign that things are finally gettin good!
-Kenpachi shows up and saves Ichigo from gettin pwned by Telsa
-Donde and Pessche attack had no affect on Syzael since he actually knew who they were.
-Rukia AND Chad are both still alive and Chad is being monitored by some arrancar(not sure who) and one of em orders the others to start collecting data on him.
-The black arrancar pulls out his sword and prepares to kill Rukia
Now what needs to happen:
-Kenpachi kicks both Telsa and Noitra's ass
-Byakuya or at least someone shows up as well hopefully and saves Chad and Rukie as I dont see either of them being able to put up a fight.
-As for Ishida+Renji, Renji has no acchiles tendons so he obviously cant stand and Ishida has no stomach so it looks like they're both screwed.And Donde and Pessche both seem to have no effect on Syzael either. So might as well send someone to save them as well.
oh and whatever happened to Grimjow? is he still out cold?
DBZALLSTAR
10-25-2007, 10:57 PM
Chap 297:
oh and whatever happened to Grimjow? is he still out cold?
I'm sure we'll find out in about six months when the battle ends.:D
MeggieMay
10-25-2007, 11:52 PM
Ok, either I missed a frame or something but I looked at the part where Ishida got whammied (for lack of a better term) and I thought the "pill" said Asophagus on it. While that's Engrish spelling, I'd think they meant Esophagus and the esophagus isn't the stomach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esophagus
Actually, getting your esophagus messed up would also be bad but your survival rate would not be quite as low as having your stomach messed with (and I'm still not clear on what really happened to the organs in question).
Anime Freak
10-26-2007, 12:10 AM
Ok, either I missed a frame or something but I looked at the part where Ishida got whammied (for lack of a better term) and I thought the "pill" said Asophagus on it. While that's Engrish spelling, I'd think they meant Esophagus and the esophagus isn't the stomach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esophagus
Actually, getting your esophagus messed up would also be bad but your survival rate would not be quite as low as having your stomach messed with (and I'm still not clear on what really happened to the organs in question).
I guess you read a diff translation then me, the one I read happens in chap293 on pages 16-18 and the pill clearly says "estomago" and syzael even says "All I did was smash his stomach" on page 18. So i'm about 100% sure his stomach was destroyed and not his esophagus.
MeggieMay
10-26-2007, 12:34 AM
Yeah, that could be the problem. Either way, Ishida's currently glued to the floor looking totally freaked out which makes him pretty much down for the count. Hopefully Kenpachi thought to bring a medic or two along with him (everyone really needs to be looked over at this point when I think about it) :anime:
FireStarterLE
10-26-2007, 03:27 AM
Hopefully Kenpachi thought to bring a medic or two along with him (everyone really needs to be looked over at this point when I think about it) :anime:
If Zaraki is "helping" Ichigo you can bet he didn't bring no medic only his "words of wisdom" saying something like "is this all you're capable of? I didn't think you were this weak ... pfft .... to be beaten by someone like this guy i can't believe i even lost to you", or something like that.
If Byakuya is going to fight the new espada guy, it'll probably bring a tear to my eye if he shows brotherly affection to Rukia.
Two high level captains are either in HM or on their way to fight Aizen's group, Ichigo and his group have injured and killed a few Espada also. I think Aizen is going to have a small army once the winter comes unless he creates new Espada.
MeggieMay
10-26-2007, 05:20 AM
Well if it's Zaraki alone, then I agree with you (no medic). If it's just Zaraki and Byakuya alone, well that wouldn't be a group to begin with so of course there wouldn't be a medic. Now, if Zaraki put together a group to come with him, rather than doing this alone, then maybe but probably not likely. If Byakuya put a group together than chance of a medic get better IMO because Byakuya may be a a** most of the time but he's not stupid. I think he'd bring support with him but then again I can't seeing him being there unless everyone had permission to be so I'm not sure he's going to show up here at all.
Of course there is always a chance that Zaraki is simply a figment of Ichgo's mind because this is Bleach afterall. So it's all just speculation discussion until more is discovered on what exactly is going down here :sweat:.
Anime Freak
10-26-2007, 10:10 AM
Yeah,hopefully there's a 3rd captain coming as well to save Chad or else he's just as screwed as Rukia right now. As for Renji and Ishida, their fight has lasted so long now that I feel like they've got to win it somehow. I'm sure they'll pull something out of nowhere and somehow win.
Baseball
10-26-2007, 02:20 PM
Ichigo is getting seriously jacked up this chapter. Man, him and his friends really were way out of their league on this one. I guess they should have expected it though. They dove straight into the lion's den without preparation.
Maybe Zaraki will be able to release his Zanpaku-to.
Sparticus
10-26-2007, 05:01 PM
Hmmm... I don't think Byakushi will show up. If Kenpachi brought anyone (or if anyone brought Kenpachi...) it'd be Yachiru, Yumi and Ikkaku. Buuut, if ANYONE was going to storm Las Noches to rescue the rescue squad, it'd be Isshin and Ryuuken and possibly the Viazards, with Kenpachi along for the killuns'. :D
MessyB
10-26-2007, 06:30 PM
The rescue squad may be getting Orihime back only to leave Chad in Heuco Mundo. But given the various hints to his power being Hollow-like, that should end up quite interesting.
Captain Highwind
10-26-2007, 06:45 PM
297
Damn. Kubo's gettin' all violent again. o_o
Attack them with equal force, Kenpachi!
Kyuss
10-26-2007, 08:06 PM
Well at least reinforcements finally decided to show up. Not sure, though, if Kenpaki will be enough if he's the only reinforcement however.
laactor101
10-27-2007, 03:19 PM
I sense some good things are going happen in the upcoming chapters
Funkatron
10-27-2007, 09:37 PM
I wonder... Does Kenny have bankai now?
Captain Highwind
10-27-2007, 10:54 PM
I wonder... Does Kenny have bankai now?
That's the question for the week. =D
I bet it's rusty lookin.'
Kyuss
10-27-2007, 11:09 PM
If he doesn't have banki, this will be a short non-rescue mission.
KuwabaraTheMan
10-31-2007, 01:47 PM
Whoa, Zaraki. I just read this past chapter.
Could be what Bleach needs to re energize the series a little bit. Hopefully this can give the good guys a turn for the better.
Although defeating Tessla won't really have much impact in the grand scheme of things.
FireStarterLE
11-01-2007, 03:02 AM
well according to pictures released from ch. 298 ... there will be 4 squad captains in HM
well i won't make it easy for you :)
Squad Captains 4, 6, 11, and 12 look to make an appearance. And one will be sporting a new outfit thanks to a certain Quincy
Katsumara
11-01-2007, 03:03 AM
Here are some images from the next chapter. Don't click any links if you wish to not be spoiled. I'll put them in spoiler tags to be extra safe.
http://i18.tinypic.com/5ymd3f7.jpg (http://i18.tinypic.com/5ymd3f7.jpg)
http://i16.tinypic.com/4zn70cz.jpg (http://i16.tinypic.com/4zn70cz.jpg)
http://i18.tinypic.com/4ve6gqf.jpg (http://i18.tinypic.com/4ve6gqf.jpg)
http://i16.tinypic.com/6hgcbj5.jpg (http://i16.tinypic.com/6hgcbj5.jpg)
Again. Do not click if you do not want to be spoiled. You've been warned. Kthx.
Anime Freak
11-01-2007, 03:18 AM
uhh this is a spoiler topic, you dont have to put spoiler boxes :sweat: . Anyways here's the first bit of info out on the latest awesome chapter in Bleach 298:
-Kenpachi defeats Tesla in one blow and Noitra drops Inoue and goes straight towards Kenpachi.
-The black espada is named Les Deux or something along those lines and as he's about to kill Rukia he's stopped by Byakuya while Unohana shows up to heal Rukia.
-Syzael knocks out Donde and Pesshe and Renji and Ishida are out of ideas and just when Syzael begins to unveil his final "act" upon them, he's stopped by none other than Mayuri!
Good to see Kenpachi brought quite a good team with him, now we just need to see who will save Chad I guess.
I thought this was a golden week???
Rocketboy
11-01-2007, 07:29 AM
I never expected Mayuri to get a new face.
GWOtaku
11-01-2007, 09:22 AM
Whoa. Byakuya isn't a shock, but I'm surprised to see Mayuri and Unohana here. Things are definitely looking up now.
I imagine Ishida will none too pleased to be bailed out by Mayuri...whatever he does in this arc he's still a first rate jerk in my book.
Captain Highwind
11-01-2007, 12:07 PM
I never expected Mayuri to get a new face.
It's a special occasion, so he decided to dress in gold; just like Liz Taylor.
silvanoir
11-01-2007, 06:14 PM
My only hope is that Mayuri and Szayel kill eachother at the same time.
My Quincy-boy has suffered enough.
Don_East
11-01-2007, 07:27 PM
Damn, and I thought Mayuri was already creepy enough with the old face.
Baseball
11-01-2007, 08:27 PM
Whos saving Chad?
Hopefully Hisagi, so we can finally see his zanpaku-to release. I have a feeling Yachiru might show up and own Nnoitra, but that's just speculation.
Mr. Obsession
11-01-2007, 09:09 PM
So…. To celebrate his glorious return, Mayuri bought a new hat? Figures.
Oh well, at least Kenpachi isn’t a manifestation of Ichigo’s subconscious, again. Plus this leaves me wanting Nel and Yachiru interaction, and maybe Nel copying Yachiru’s shoulder riding with Ichigo.
-The black espada is named Les Deux Supposedly he also introduces himself as the Seventh Espada, so that just leaves Halibel, Stark and the unnamed Old Man as the top 3.
Anime Freak
11-02-2007, 12:31 PM
Finally got to read the actual chapter and lots of good stuff happening at last:
-Kenpachi slices Tesla to pieces! Finally a dead character lol
-Yachiru came with Kenpachi, Nemu came with Mayuri and Tsane(guess thats how u spell it) came with Unohana.
-Byakuya is pretty pissed when the 7th espada tells him that he was planning to finish off Rukia. Nice little glare in his eye ha ha.
-Chad is saved by Unohana who doesn't want to fight with the Exquedias, but naturally I doubt they'll let them just leave.
-Mayuri seems overjoyed/excited over the prospect of all the arrancar/espadas and laughs maniacally. Seems more like he's there to have fun with the espada and could care less about Ishida/Renji.
Now the real question remains as to whether or not Kenpachi and Mayuri are strong enough. Kenpachi got his ass owned by Ichigo who was only at Shikai level. Mayuri got owned by Ishida who wasn't nearly as strong as he is now. So here's hoping those 2 have at least "powered" up somehow before coming.
MezzoDragon
11-02-2007, 01:01 PM
Yachiru is very silly. The way she makes her grand entrance is perfect for her character. I hope she gets to fight soon.
Captain Highwind
11-03-2007, 12:06 PM
Bleach 298
Major beef: Kubo...you have a chapter with color pages, one in which Kenpachi returns, and you waste it on a splash page resembling a cellphone ad?! D:
I didn't expect the pink-haired shoulder monkey to tag along... >.>
*Gets his scalp bitten*
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1756/yachirusx2.gif (http://imageshack.us)
WHAT EVIL HAVE I UNLEASHED?!
MezzoDragon
11-03-2007, 12:10 PM
The lieutenant must go with their captain. The only exception is Byakuya. That cannot be helped; Renji is already is Hollow World.
Sparticus
11-03-2007, 12:52 PM
Bleach 298
Major beef: Kubo...you have a chapter with color pages, one in which Kenpachi returns, and you waste it on a splash page resembling a cellphone ad?! D:
I didn't expect the pink-haired shoulder monkey to tag along... >.>
*Gets his scalp bitten*
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1756/yachirusx2.gif (http://imageshack.us)
WHAT EVIL HAVE I UNLEASHED?!
All hail Yachiru!!!! XD
FlyByNite77
11-03-2007, 01:45 PM
If Yachiru and chibi-Nel get together I think my monitor my explode from overload of cuteness
I never expected Unohana to be sent as I never really saw her as much of an offensive person, but looks like she'll have to do some fighting so should be interesting.
BTW since Leroux is the 7th espada that makes Halibel in the top-3... whoo
MezzoDragon
11-03-2007, 02:06 PM
Appearances can be deceptive. Captain Unohana may seem to be sweet (and the Mona Lisa), but she could be worse than Captain Zaraki.
Kyuss
11-03-2007, 02:55 PM
I find that highly unlikely. She might be more skilled in ways to kill, but her nature seems to prefer less...violent solutions to problems.
KuwabaraTheMan
11-03-2007, 03:39 PM
Two weeks of awesomeness in a row. Kubo finally has it back.
Tesla gets taken down by Kenpachi with ease. Now to see how Kenpachi stands up against Nnoitra. Mayuri against Szayelapporo should also be pretty interesting.
Bleach is getting really fun again.
I wonder if Ikkaku and Yumichika tagged along, too.
Supposedly he also introduces himself as the Seventh Espada, so that just leaves Halibel, Stark and the unnamed Old Man as the top 3.
Yeah. I figure either the old man or Stark is #1.
laactor101
11-03-2007, 09:36 PM
boy this was an great chapter it looks like the good guys will win and get out here.
Scirel
11-03-2007, 09:57 PM
So the final matches are Unohana vs Exequias, Byakuya vs. Les Deux, and kurotsuchi vs. mayuri.
looks to be a nice end to the arc, with the top 4 espada still in the game.
But.... why is Yammy still alive? XD
MezzoDragon
11-03-2007, 10:07 PM
Yammy needs to get some screen time. If anything, just to get rid of him after we learn his last name and see his released form.
KuwabaraTheMan
11-03-2007, 10:08 PM
But.... why is Yammy still alive? XD
Because he's Yammy, dammit.
I imagine he's being saved for a rematch against Chad. That would give Chad an Espada to take down in the Winter war.
MezzoDragon
11-03-2007, 10:21 PM
I assume Sado is strong enough to defeat the weakest Espada; unreleased or released. I wonder how Yammy (and everyone else) will react when Sado admits his powers relate to Hollow. Um, just to ask a stupid question (as if I could ask anything but), could Sado be considered to be a Vaizard?
KuwabaraTheMan
11-03-2007, 10:40 PM
I assume Sado is strong enough to defeat the weakest Espada; unreleased or released. I wonder how Yammy (and everyone else) will react when Sado admits his powers relate to Hollow. Um, just to ask a stupid question (as if I could ask anything but), could Sado be considered to be a Vaizard?
Vaizards are Shinigami who gain Hollow Powers. Chad is not a Shinigami, so he wouldn't be considered a Vaizard.
Mr. Obsession
11-03-2007, 10:54 PM
Ha, even Ichigo questions if Kenpachi was the real thing at the beginning of the chapter.
I think the biggest surprise of this chapter wasn’t the fan’s long requested match-ups between Kenpachi and Nnoitra or Mayuri and Szayelsauce, wasn’t the name and rank revelation of one of the last unnamed characters, wasn’t that Unohana was one of the captains to be part of the Hueco Mundo invasion force, wasn’t the fact that Soul Society is finally taking the offensive to Aizen before winter, but rather the fact that Urahara is working with Soul Society.
Urahara the exile is working with Soul Society in an official capacity and has been since Orihime was kidnapped, possibly earlier even. This warrants a reevaluation of his actions since Ichigo and company returned from Soul Society.
Sparticus
11-03-2007, 11:38 PM
Ha, even Ichigo questions if Kenpachi was the real thing at the beginning of the chapter.
I think the biggest surprise of this chapter wasn’t the fan’s long requested match-ups between Kenpachi and Nnoitra or Mayuri and Szayelsauce, wasn’t the name and rank revelation of one of the last unnamed characters, wasn’t that Unohana was one of the captains to be part of the Hueco Mundo invasion force, wasn’t the fact that Soul Society is finally taking the offensive to Aizen before winter, but rather the fact that Urahara is working with Soul Society.
Urahara the exile is working with Soul Society in an official capacity and has been since Orihime was kidnapped, possibly earlier even. This warrants a reevaluation of his actions since Ichigo and company returned from Soul Society.
My thoughts exactly. I bet SS gave Urahara a poke just after Ulquorria and Yammy made their appearance. Actualy I rambled about this for quite a while in my LJ. I'll do some copy/pastin' 'cause I'm lazy. XD
From my LiveJournal:
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!! Okay, actualy I wanted Isshin, Ryuuken and possibly the viazards to show up but this is alright. XD
My major eekness isn't so much that a rescue squad has come to rescue the rescue squad (and mess stuff up, of course - go Kenpachi!!!!!!!!) but that Kubo FINALY MAY HAVE GIVEN US A PIECE OF THE TIMELINE. This is pure speculation at the moment, I'm waiting for Maximum 7's translation before I make any more solid theories. Anyway...
Kenpachi said that Urahara had been ordered (omgwtfbbq!? Will get to that in a minute...) to open the gargantua to Hueco Mundo and calibrate it so that captains could pass through easily (love Yachiru for that line "Ken-chan finaly fit through the hole!" XD) and that ORIGINALY they thought it would take three months. Urahara figured he could do it in one month, which is the exact ammount of time between the first wave of arrancar (I'm not counting Ukelala and Yami's visit since it was just the two of them, however this is what likely spurred SS to contact Urahara since he's the go-to guy for holes (if you have a hole, chances are Urahara's been in it XD (Y Macro Thursday @ Capslock Bleach (http://community.livejournal.com/capslock_bleach)))), and the second wave of arrancar.
How do I know this? Easy, Ichigo went off to train with the viazards just after his first fight with Grimmjow - there was a one month timeskip wherein everyone trained, then the arrancar returned as a diversion so that Ukelala could kidnap Inoue. The reason why Urahara had the gargantua ready when Ichigo show'd up is that been working on it all of this time. AND the reason why he let them go (aside from knowing there'd be no stoping Ichigo once he'd decided to rescue Inoue (which is also why he recruited Chad and Ishida since it was idiotic to go alone) at all was to TEST THE DAMN THING!!! XD
Why didn't he tell the rescue squad? Two reasons: 1)It was a need to know basis, and they didn't need to know. 2) He wasn't sure how quickly Soul Society would move once the gateway was clear. It's rather convenient having the anime where it is right now, for light has been shed on things. I don't think Yamma-jii was originaly going to move that quickly, which is part of why Byakushi let Rukia and Renji go (aside from knowing they'd go anyway). HE knew waiting around was stupid, so letting Rukia and Renji go forced SS's hand a little. Plus, with the revelation that Urahara had, in fact, gotten the gargantua calibrated (Renji is captain level - he was the second guinea pig! XD) they didn't really have an excuse.
SO, that brings us back to the current timeline. This of course could all be bunk once other translations surface buuut I'm sticking to my guns; the rescue squad hasn't been in Hueco Mundo more than a couple of days, and they haven't been running around Las Noches more than a few hours. I'd say eight at the most.
Longest eight hours ever. XD
Now, why oh why would SS contact Urahara? He's been banished right? Yes, BUT he still supplies material world based shinigami with Soul Society stuff. Sooo, although banished, and stripped of his rank, he's still unofficaly working for the Gotei 13. I doubt that they'd let ex-captians just dissapear on them, so I'm fairly certain (now) that higher-ups have known where he was for a while now (I doubt the general populous of the Gotei 13 knew though).
I'm curious if they know Isshin's whereabouts as well. I kind of doubt it, he's probably in one of those untraceable gigai's that Uarahara was supposedly banished over. And, if they knew where he was, they'd know who Ichigo is, and it doesn't strike me that they do - at least not all of them. I think Byakuya has a good idea though. ;)
I also wonder if Aizen miscalculated, did he predict SS's move? Does he know Urahara's involved (someone said it a looong time ago and I agree: Bleach is just one big chess match between Aizen and Urahara), is this precicely what he wanted? So many questions! XD
Any thoughts?
Captain Highwind
11-04-2007, 12:00 AM
Okay, actualy I wanted Isshin, Ryuuken and possibly the viazards to show up but this is alright. XD
I don't see Isshin's revelation as being something really dramatic. I mean, he'll probably show up at the last minute to help Ichigo in the Winter War, but it would be funnier if he just casually walks downstairs for breakfast in uniform or something random like that (cue Ichigo cereal spit-take).
Sparticus
11-04-2007, 01:12 AM
I don't see Isshin's revelation as being something really dramatic. I mean, he'll probably show up at the last minute to help Ichigo in the Winter War, but it would be funnier if he just casually walks downstairs for breakfast in uniform or something random like that (cue Ichigo cereal spit-take).
That it would! :D He'd probably giggle and run away before Ichigo could recover too. *nodnod* I have a ton of cracky idea's for how Isshin spills the beans. :evil:
Anime Freak
11-08-2007, 03:21 AM
Hrm, chapter 299 is out! Some fun stuff in this chapter...
-Kenpachi and Noitra exchange blows for a page and thats bout all we see of them. (figures they'd stretch this fight out)
-Mayuri and Ishida argue and Syzael is amused while Mayuri is overconfident as usual and tells Syzael that he plans to "bottle" him up and wants to know his name so he can put it on the bottle lol.
-Byakuya and Zomari start thier fight. Zomari uses some sorta shunpo technique which makes 2 of him appear and he increases the number to 4 clones and seems to think he has the upperhand but only ends up cutting Byakuya's coat. Byakuya then basically tells him that their ranks are too far apart and that he's no match for him.
Byakuya then basically tells him that their ranks are too far apart and that he's no match for him.
What ranks? since when are captains ranked, and if they were why is Kempachi ranked friking 11th.
MezzoDragon
11-08-2007, 09:10 AM
Byakuya is extremely arrogant. Then again, most characters on Bleach are arrogant and/or overly mean. In any case, Byakuya is talking in terms of strength.
KuwabaraTheMan
11-08-2007, 11:26 AM
What ranks? since when are captains ranked, and if they were why is Kempachi ranked friking 11th.
Where the hell did you get the idea they're ranked in fighting levels?
Aside from Yamamoto being 1, the Captains aren't ranked.
Byakuya is just talking about their skill levels, not some arbitrarily assigned rank.
Anime Freak
11-08-2007, 12:25 PM
whoa, I was just reporting what the translation says and yeah Kuwabara is right, Byakuya is referring to strength not actual ranks. And besides, did anyone actually expect Byakuya to have to struggle too much against the 7th espada?? I mean if Ichigo can own Grimmjow who's the 6th then i'd be seriously worried if Byakuya couldn't take on a weaker espada. And plus if Byakuya couldn't beat the 7th espada then i'd be seriously worried about Kenpachi standing a chance against Noitra :sweat:
KuwabaraTheMan
11-08-2007, 12:27 PM
I mean if Ichigo can own Grimmjow who's the 6th then i'd be seriously worried if Byakuya couldn't take on a weaker espada. And plus if Byakuya couldn't beat the 7th espada then i'd be seriously worried about Kenpachi standing a chance against Noitra :sweat:
I dunno if I'd say Ichigo came even close to 'owning' Grimmjow. It was a pretty long fight, and Ichigo was really messed up at the end. I think people really use that term too loosely.
Mr. Obsession
11-08-2007, 12:27 PM
I believe the rank comment is supposed to mean that Byakuya is making a disparaging comment, in his own way, because he believes Le Roux isn't a strong enough opponent to go all out on. The Captains may not be ranked, but the Espada are, and Byakuya's only facing #7. Now it's my theory that Espada of similar rank are around the same level, based on what we've seen so far. In the end Byakuya may have a fight around the same level as Ichigo had Grimmjow. Especially if Byakuya continues to underestimate Le Roux.
Anyway, I think this fight is going to be cooler than I first thought because it's a master of Shinigami flash-steps versus a master of Hallow flash-steps.
And of course Ishida and Mayuri have to argue. :anime:
Anime Freak
11-08-2007, 06:34 PM
Also of note is that as expected, the exquedias fled so Unohana wont end up having to do any fighting :sweat:
MezzoDragon
11-08-2007, 06:45 PM
Unohana is scary. Then again, it is doubtful the Exquedias are stronger than the Espada. If so, fighting a captain, albeit the possibly weakest, could be suicide.
Mr. Obsession
11-08-2007, 09:37 PM
Weakest? Her abilities may lean heavily towards the healing arts, but Unohana has enough reiatsu to not be completely fooled by Aizen’s deus ex machina shikai, something few characters in the series can boast.
I’d bet that kind of power equates to insane levels of kido use.
MezzoDragon
11-08-2007, 10:37 PM
I said possibly and was talking about her fighting strength. She could be one of the few shinigami that can use 90's kido without incantations.
Captain Highwind
11-09-2007, 11:47 PM
Chapter 300-minus-1
Hm. Aporro vs. Mayuri should be interesting. Mayuri has more organs than he knows what to do with... >.>
So, basically Shaft Espada vs. Capt. Kuchiki will be a battle of "You're more arrogant than I am times infinity..."
Unohana's opponents ran out on her. That really isn't a fight...so that splash page with the eyes seems kind of inaccurate. -_-;
Kyuss
11-10-2007, 12:06 AM
Highwind,
I'd still say the Seventh Espada is pretty much outclassed by one of the more powerful captains in all the squads.
FireStarterLE
11-10-2007, 03:01 AM
Highwind,
I'd still say the Seventh Espada is pretty much outclassed by one of the more powerful captains in all the squads.
yeah, but Kubo will make it last forever since Byakuya won't want his first fight against an Espada to be over in less than 5 minutes (either that or he won't want to use his full power on someone that weak)
Kyuss
11-10-2007, 03:16 AM
Regardless the fight with Kenpai versus Nnoitra will probably be a lot closer. Firstly, Nnoitra is weakened after his fight with Ichigo. Kenpai, not only being the fresh man, probably has under gone more extensive training. One hopes, however, he has at least learned to unseal his zanpakto's full potential.
Anime Freak
11-13-2007, 10:24 PM
New spoilers out and it seems that Kubo is gonna prolong the Byakuya fight naturally ;) . Zomari releases and basically starts beating up on byakuya and then does a weird thing similar to SoiFon and creates some sorta symbol on his left leg and controls him. Oh yeah,and Hanatarou shows up to the fight, but does anyone really care about that??? :sweat:
Captain Highwind
11-14-2007, 12:01 AM
Oh yeah,and Hanatarou shows up to the fight, but does anyone really care about that??? :sweat:
Oh god run away Hanataro, you'll be shredded! D:
Kyuss
11-14-2007, 12:27 AM
Perhaps they believed that Hanataro will be able to fix up Ichigo better than Orihime.
Rocketboy
11-14-2007, 10:48 AM
Hell yes! the best character ever returns and he may beat an espada!
GWOtaku
11-14-2007, 02:44 PM
Hanataro? Goodness, at this rate Ganju will be back someday.
Majin_Megabyte
11-15-2007, 03:52 PM
Hanataro? Goodness, at this rate Ganju will be back someday.
If Ganju shows up, anytime soon or in the next arc. I will be marking out like so crazy. ^_^.
Captain Highwind
11-16-2007, 05:43 PM
300
Well sure as crap, there's Hanataro.
And Shaft-Espada turned into a pumpkin. Watching the process behind these transformations is a bit nauseating...
MezzoDragon
11-16-2007, 05:51 PM
Zomari is All-Seeing Pumpkin Man. His transformation sequence is just as weird. It will look funny once animated. That plus their "I am not arrogant! You are arrogant!" fight.
Kyuss
11-16-2007, 07:08 PM
Someone is certainly arrogant. Regardless the Pumpkin King Arrancar will be the subject of some humor, no doubt.
Mr. Obsession
11-16-2007, 10:53 PM
/currently waiting for someone to ‘shop a picture of released Le Roux over Linus waiting in a pumpkin patch…
Watching the process behind these transformations is a bit nauseating...Yeah, that was, "ouch."
Gotta love Byakuya's solution to having his leg taken over, slicing the tendons. Smooth Byakuya, real smooth. What are you going to do for an encore when he takes over your other leg?
Kyuss
11-17-2007, 12:34 AM
Obsession,
Perhaps he intends to fly without feet/legs. It's certainly well within his character. He often reminds me of Pazazu. (The D&D version, not the one in the Exorcist films)
Sparticus
11-17-2007, 02:07 AM
Man, this whole chapter can be summed up in four lines...
Hanatarou: Is adorable.
Byakushi: Is unimpressed.
Pumpkincar: Is weird.
Byakushi: Is unimpressed.
And here I thought Kubo was saving up all the awesome for chapter 300. :P Guess he's trying to avoid the Bleach/300 jokes. :P
Kyuss
11-17-2007, 02:32 AM
Sparticus,
Or that he likes using pumpkins for some reason.
Sparticus
11-17-2007, 12:41 PM
Sparticus,
Or that he likes using pumpkins for some reason.
Yup.
KuwabaraTheMan
11-17-2007, 12:56 PM
I think Zommari's ability is pretty useful. This fight might be unorthodox, but I'm digging it so far.
Much better than recent crap like Ichigo vs Grimmjow Round 3 and Nel vs Nnoitra.
laactor101
11-17-2007, 09:58 PM
I do think Bleach is getting back to it's glory with these past few chapters Oh by the way I can't stop telling Great Pumpkin jokes
Kyuss
11-18-2007, 01:52 AM
Laactor,
It's understandable with the 7th Espada being a Pumpkin King.
Kuwbara,
I'd rather we switch back to Nnorita and Kenpai, personally. But otherwise, you're essentially correct that this fight is much more interesting then the last...5-10 that have come before.
FireStarterLE
11-18-2007, 03:40 AM
I'd rather we switch back to Nnorita and Kenpai, personally. But otherwise, you're essentially correct that this fight is much more interesting then the last...5-10 that have come before.
saving the best for last?
*which it should be / better be
Kyuss
11-18-2007, 03:41 AM
Firestarter,
Probably right but that doesn't mean they couldn't give us a few "side previews" for this fight.
Anime Freak
11-18-2007, 07:25 PM
eh, i'm more interested in the Mayuri vs Grantz fight. 2 mad scientists against each other is a bit more interesting than 2 psycho fighters against each other and the great pumpkin vs the great arrogant one. And besides, the Grantz fight has been goin on for how many chapters now??? Surely its time for that one to wrap up already.
Kyuss
11-18-2007, 08:10 PM
Honestly I'm not that interested since I had hoped Renji and Uryu might be enough to take down Grantz.
Baseball
11-20-2007, 02:03 PM
Man, Uryu and Renji suck. Renji's never won a fight (except if you count Il Forte, and even then he stated that he probably couldn't have if his limiter hadn't been placed at the beginning), and Uryu hasn't been doing too much.
On a side note, Zommari's pumpkin suit is awesome. Maybe Hanataro's going to use his release to heal Rukia and unleash the energy back at Zommari.
Kyuss
11-20-2007, 08:23 PM
Yes and if you believe that one, I have some lovely real estate for you in 7th circle of Hell.
Baseball
11-21-2007, 03:42 PM
Considering how much damage Byakuya is doing to himself, and the severity of both his and Rukia's energy, it should unleash a hefty amount of pain back. Although, Hanataro isn't likely to do that.
Kyuss
11-23-2007, 08:04 PM
So I take it there's been no new revelation on what happens next in this fight?
Captain Highwind
11-24-2007, 12:19 AM
So I take it there's been no new revelation on what happens next in this fight?
301
Capt. Kuchiki made pumpkin pie. ^__^
Kaiser0120
11-24-2007, 12:46 AM
301
Capt. Kuchiki made pumpkin pie. ^__^
Or a Jack-O-Lantern. <3
Captain Highwind
11-24-2007, 01:09 AM
Or a Jack-O-Lantern. <3
Or...
*Insert random pun about Smashing Pumpkins*
And I think that's all I've got.
Kyuss
11-24-2007, 01:37 AM
Well if that's the case I'm all for suggesting "Bullet with Butterfly Wings".
Mr. Obsession
11-24-2007, 02:07 AM
Well, unless Zommari has another trick up his sleeve, I'd say that fight is over. But at what cost? Byakuya's left arm and leg are useless, Hanataro, the closest healer, is injured, and Rukia is still dying. If Byakuya hadn't let his pride get in the way he could have avoided two of those three things. What's will he do if someone else shows up?
Captain Highwind
11-24-2007, 02:48 AM
I'd say go get Hanataro's sword, but we all know the answer to that one...
FinnMacCool
11-24-2007, 03:16 AM
Anyone have any idea why Zommari didn't just take control of Byakuya's head right away?
Mr. Obsession
11-24-2007, 04:05 AM
Ego/pride/etc.
If he simply taking over Byakuya’s body completely and used Byakuya kill himself it wouldn’t prove anything. Zommari wanted Byakuya to acknowledge that as an Espada he is an equal force to that of a Shinigami Captain. And for the same reason Byakuya didn't go bankai from the beginning, since he needed to maintain his own belief in his innate superiority to everything that isn’t a Kuchiki.
Or we could just go with the simpler answer that Bleach is a shonen, and virtually no one in a shonen goes all out from the get go with their trump card.
Sparticus
11-24-2007, 12:54 PM
Awww, you guys beat me to the pumpkin jokes. XD
I think I will have 2 slices please...:sad:
But really the fight cant be over yet, they still have Hanataro is there and I think that he might have to help out with the fight even though he is injured in his condition or something like that. Never Ever underestimate The Great Pumpkin....
Scirel
11-24-2007, 07:07 PM
The hopeless face on zomari shown before the blast would probably indicate that he is done for.
however, one final idea, an extension of his ability, may have let him switch into Rukia's body.
Kyuss
11-24-2007, 08:21 PM
My only care is this means we'll get back to Kenpai versus Nnorita much quicker than anticipated.
Anime Freak
11-24-2007, 09:38 PM
Yeah, the last image showed the whole place collapsing so i'm pretty sure that means Zomari is dead. And hanataro didnt get hurt nearly enough to prevent him from healing Rukia + Byakuya. And besides, Unohana + Isane are around doing nothing so i'm sure they can heal as well once they find them.
And as for the Kenpachi/Noitra fight, I hihgly doubt we're going back to that. With our luck it'll be back to Mayuri vs Grantz or even worse, it'll be a filleresque chapter that shows whats going on back in soul society/earth or will show whats happened to Grimjow+Ulquioria or Aizen.
of course the best route to go would be to have the Old Man Espada show up, kick Byakuya's ass and Unohana will have to save him :sweat:
Kyuss
11-24-2007, 10:15 PM
Anime Freak,
Honestly I doubt the "old man" will make an appearance just yet. But it is probable that we will get some "filler" before returning to Kenpai versus Nnorita. Which I find is regrettable, since I feel it will be a much more interesting and indeed better overall fight.
Anime Freak
11-28-2007, 02:42 PM
302
-Zommari survives the attack and ptifully begs Byakuya to let him live
-Naturally Byakuya slashes him to pieces
-Hanatarou starts to heal Rukia
-Mayuri collapses in front of Grantz, but naturally we all know he has something up his sleeve :sweat:
302
-Zommari survives the attack and ptifully begs Byakuya to let him live
-Naturally Byakuya slashes him to pieces
-Hanatarou starts to heal Rukia
-Mayuri collapses in front of Grantz, but naturally we all know he has something up his sleeve :sweat:
$50 dollars saying that he moved his will or soul or something like that to Rukia. Just a hunch in my guess...or he could actually be dead.
Kyuss
11-28-2007, 02:55 PM
I'm not taking that action because I still believe Rukia to be only near death and thus not truly dead.
Baseball
11-28-2007, 03:09 PM
Zommari was trash. I expected so much more from him.
Kyuss
11-28-2007, 03:38 PM
Zommari was an overbloated pompous wannabe. The better challenge would have been Grimmjow or even Nnorita.
Anime Freak
11-28-2007, 06:16 PM
Sadly, Grantz is seeming to be a lot stronger than Zommari and he's one rank lower than him geez :sweat: . And everyone is forgetting that he was only rank 7, if Grimmjow(rank 6) could be defeated by Ichigo then it would have been a TOTAL rewrite/joke if Byakuya had lost to zommari
Mr. Obsession
11-28-2007, 06:33 PM
If Szayel ends up surviving after facing Renji, Ishida, and now Mayuri I’ll have to wonder what Aizen was thinking when he ranked him eighth among the Espada.
MezzoDragon
11-28-2007, 06:39 PM
I doubt it is because of his power, but personality. Szayel is disobedient and hates him more than any other Espeda. Thus, that could be why Aizen put him in such a low rank. He could have been #10, but Yammi is an idiot and Bubblehead (forgot name) is a Gillan. Putting him at #8 is the most logical position, I assume.
OR more likely, Uryu and Renji just arent powerfull enough to stand a chance against an Espada yet and since Mayuri couldt even beat Uryu he doesnt stand a chance either.
Kyuss
11-28-2007, 07:44 PM
Or Tite is just once more playing with the power levels or having a RT moment.
MezzoDragon
11-28-2007, 07:49 PM
What is a RT moment?
Kyuss
11-28-2007, 07:52 PM
Sorry I have a tendency to use acronyms not always know to people.
RT = Rumiko Takahashi, creator of Inuyasha and Ramna 1/2
Where does it say that Grantz dispisces Aizen, I dont remember reading that anywhere.
Mr. Obsession
11-29-2007, 10:00 PM
When Aizen called Szayel on ordering the Exequias around behind his back. Szayel was polite in front of Aizen, but less so after leaving the room.
Captain Highwind
11-30-2007, 05:30 PM
302
Capt. Kuchiki didn't stay and get healed? What is with everybody doing that...?
Oh for goodness sake, Mayuri's having trouble with Aporro too.
That clown Mayuri couldnt even beat Uryu, who couldnt beat that Espada (even with Renji's help), i doubt Mayuri has a chance.
Baseball
11-30-2007, 08:42 PM
Zommari's fight was garbage. I didn't feel excited at all when reading it. It kind of just reminded me of how Bleach fights usually end in fillers/movies. I'm disappointed with him for sure.
Also, Renji is just...not good. Why isn't he stronger? It puzzles me. Maybe Chad will show up and actually kick Szayel Aporro's fornicating booty. I'm getting tired of seeing all of these people from Soul Society destroy everyone when the main characters can't even come close to inflicting the same kind of damage.
FireStarterLE
11-30-2007, 09:30 PM
maybe it's just me
but i think there's something different with Isane, either that's not the real one or someone is in control of her (her eyes and sweat drop namely give me that feeling)
Rocketboy
11-30-2007, 09:41 PM
Yeah, I wasn't big on Zommari's fight either, but I did like how he went, "What gives you the right to kill us?!" and all that.
Kyuss
11-30-2007, 10:13 PM
All I know is Kenpai's fight with Nnorita has a lot more riding on it for my interest than any of these other fights.
laactor101
11-30-2007, 10:43 PM
Zommari's fight was garbage. I didn't feel excited at all when reading it. It kind of just reminded me of how Bleach fights usually end in fillers/movies. I'm disappointed with him for sure.
Also, Renji is just...not good. Why isn't he stronger? It puzzles me. Maybe Chad will show up and actually kick Szayel Aporro's fornicating booty. I'm getting tired of seeing all of these people from Soul Society destroy everyone when the main characters can't even come close to inflicting the same kind of damage.
You and me both and you're right about that main character thing
Kyuss
11-30-2007, 10:49 PM
It would be very nice if Chad did come in and do something useful, instead of getting his butt handed to him, time after time.
Rocketboy
12-01-2007, 02:54 AM
By the way, What's the DEEEEAAAAL with Mayuri's eyes lately?
Mr. Obsession
12-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Probably one too many self experiments.
DBZALLSTAR
12-01-2007, 11:59 AM
I suppose Kubo is trying to create a feeling of suspense by placing his characters in desperate and near death situations, but if you do that too many times, it becomes annoying. You can't heal everyone each and every time they're badly wounded or fading in and out of the land of death. It gets old. I'm not saying that I want any of the characters to die. I just want Kubo to try something new and move the story along. This last dose of filler in the anime wasn't bad, but many fans still don't enjoy the thought of watching filler. If the manga doesn't progress and fast, we'll see another filler saga in no time. My only gripe with that would be finding someway to fit filler in now that we've gotten to a part of the story where it just wouldn't work. The only thing I can see working for filler now is a flashback style saga where we focus on Soul Society.
Kyuss
12-02-2007, 07:16 PM
Again my only concern is seeing Kenpai versus Nnorita. Everything else is pretty dull to me right now.
FlyByNite77
12-02-2007, 10:56 PM
Again my only concern is seeing Kenpai versus Nnorita. Everything else is pretty dull to me right now.
same here. There's been way too damn much Szayel already so I don't really care to watch him in another fight.
I would almost say that about nnoitra, but I'm pumped to see Kenpachi fight.
Kyuss
12-03-2007, 12:21 AM
Fly,
Any fight with Kenpachi in it tends to be fairly entertaining.
1 of 3
12-03-2007, 02:19 AM
Well, other than the freaky factor, Zommari didn't amount to very much. I'm fine with that though. We got Byakuya admitting he's proud of Rukia, too which was sweet. It's over now and we can move on.
I wonder where Kube's going with the concept of the role of soul reapers and how it became there duty to kill hollows. Probably won't be important to we move closer to Aizen's plot for the Spirit King.
I'm picturing/hoping Mayuri and Szayel going down like this; Szayel boasts about already knowing about Mayuri's capabilities from Aizen. Mayuri finds someway of injuring or humiliating Nemu to retake the advantage. Mayuri and Szayel discuss the benefits of abusing subordinates. Mayuri brings out some new, disturbing move that Szayel can't handle. Szayel crawls back to Aizen who quickly has him killed losing and his attitude.
Kyuss
12-03-2007, 02:42 AM
Or we have Chad come to their rescue...
Rocketboy
12-03-2007, 12:18 PM
Or we have Chad come to their rescue...
*Insert Edna Krabappel laugh*
Kyuss
12-03-2007, 12:25 PM
Rocketboy,
Honestly at this point I'm beyond caring who kills Szayel. I just want him dead. That way, the fight I actually have a strong opinion towards can move along. Also, perhaps by then we'll see what happens after that fight along with more plot progression.
silverwings
12-03-2007, 01:22 PM
Left field prediction - If Mayuri doesn't kill Szayel, then Unohana will. :eek:
Reasoning: No one has any data on her fighting style. :D
Kyuss
12-03-2007, 03:59 PM
Silverwings,
That's hardly a logical idea. However, considering logic went out the window some time ago, it's as good an idea as any.
silverwings
12-03-2007, 08:33 PM
Silverwings,
That's hardly a logical idea. However, considering logic went out the window some time ago, it's as good an idea as any.
Of course it's not logical. That's what makes it a left-field prediction. :p
But in all seriousness, I understand that the 4th Division specializes in healing. But you can't tell me they do zero combat? :confused:
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