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The Green Hornet
12-19-2001, 02:29 AM
i wonder if theres any chance that THE MAIN MAN will pop into JL in 2nd season or so-- he makes for some great material when used properly and infrequently-- i loved the STAS eps with him in it

Mr. Obsession
12-19-2001, 02:54 AM
I will personally do the dance of joy if Lobo shows up in "War World", since that's the only episode that it would make any sense for him to show up in during this season.

At any rate I think it's safe to assume that Lobo will show up at some point.

NewMaxFranklin
12-19-2001, 03:40 AM
I'd like to see Lobo again as well. He's a fun character. Much like Wolverine, but with a twisted sense of humor.

Manhunter
12-19-2001, 12:11 PM
A Lobo appearance would be kick,just to see him hit on WW.

The Flash
12-19-2001, 12:41 PM
That would rock! It'd be funny to see him and Batman together......just picture that for a second. :)

Karkull
12-19-2001, 12:52 PM
I'd love to see Lobo too. Plus, since it's Cartoon Network, maybe we can see him drink, smoke cigars, and do other things that he couldn't do on Kid's WB.

DR. BELCH
12-19-2001, 01:01 PM
--some folks don't wonder why DBZ's Hercule (Mr.Satan) is appearing on JL (both bear a strong resemblance/sound eerily like Hollywood Hulk Hogan).... :rolleyes:

Manhunter
12-19-2001, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Karkull
I'd love to see Lobo too. Plus, since it's Cartoon Network, maybe we can see him drink, smoke cigars, and do other things that he couldn't do on Kid's WB.

Yeah,like say "bastich".

Zebi
12-19-2001, 02:05 PM
Count me in! :D I'd love to see Lobo make an appearance on Justice League!

The Flash
12-19-2001, 02:13 PM
I doubt CN would let them get as violent as the Online Lobo cartoon was. lol. How violent do you think they'd let Lobo get?

Manhunter
12-19-2001, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH
--some folks don't wonder why DBZ's Hercule (Mr.Satan) is appearing on JL (both bear a strong resemblance/sound eerily like Hollywood Hulk Hogan).... :rolleyes:

The funny thing is,I read an interview of the current DBZ voice actors.The guy who voices Mr. Satan(I will not call him Hercule) said he uses a combination of Jesse Ventura and Randy Savage,and it doesn't sound like either of them.

James Harvey
12-20-2001, 02:37 PM
Rumors have it that Lobo was supposed to appear in the fourth and unmade season of STAS. Apparently becuase of what happened in 'Legacy', someone wanted Lobo to retreive Superman so Supes could be put in an intergalactic prison or something along those lines.

I bet we'll see him in JL.

Batman 80
12-20-2001, 04:06 PM
That would have been a great episode. I think it would be cool to see Lobo take on the JL. He could be in a episode where he's hired to capture them and stalks them one by one.

The Flash
12-20-2001, 04:09 PM
Man, I really hope they have him on the show. It'll be a riot if he does! :) If he doesn't I'm going to be extreamly disapointed... http://community.sierra.com/Images/emoticons/hrmph.gif

Jowy Blight
12-20-2001, 04:13 PM
Jeez, that sounded like it would of been a great episode. But seeing him on JL would more then make up for that. After all, he was in one of the best 2 part episodes on STAS.

The Mad Hatter
12-20-2001, 08:27 PM
Oh yeah, I'm sure they'll be able to squeeze him in for a cameo at some point...

Karkull
12-20-2001, 08:29 PM
That would have been cool. What other potential fourth season episodes could there have been if it wasn't for the WB's stupidity? Some of them could be resurrected for the Justice League, after all.

The Green Hornet
12-21-2001, 01:00 AM
im rather interested in what all Timm and company had planned for the fourth season

i REALLY hope someone is smart and decides to order them after all

i loved STAS

superfriend
12-21-2001, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Karkull
I'd love to see Lobo too. Plus, since it's Cartoon Network, maybe we can see him drink, smoke cigars, and do other things that he couldn't do on Kid's WB.

Sorry, while I would like to see Lobo again, I do NOT want to see anyone on this show SMOKE or DRINK. Every time I see a movie or movie add with someone smoking it just appauls me. We spend tons of time, effort, and even law enforcement trying to convince yuong people not to smoke and then we have movie stars doing it making it look "cool". It just doesn't belong there. Especially on Cartoon Network.

Many people talk about "doing things differently" becuase this show is on CN. But do I really need to remind you that most of the viewers of this network are kids? Why else would the Friday night showing of JL be replaced by Dexter?

Main Man? - YES. Smoking & Drinking? - NO.

Karkull
12-21-2001, 09:28 AM
You have a very valid point, but I'm very big on staying true to the character's behaviors (no matter what medium it is for). Besides, if kids are looking to Lobo for models of behavior they were probably in trouble from something else first.

James Harvey
12-21-2001, 09:45 AM
Calm down everyone! Everyone has the right to an opinion, no matter what it is, so please respect that. This thread is getting really heated to it's now on probation and may be closed. Just everyone calm down and stay cool. I had to delete matta2fatta's post becuase it was a complete bash against superfriend, who has a right to his/her opinion. Please respect each other and their opinions - don't just outright bash them. That is not allowed here.

Bird Boy
12-21-2001, 10:30 AM
yeah, he'd be really cool in a JL episode.

I doubt if they'd let him getting away with drinking and saying "bastich", but, an occasionally "puff" wouldn't be too bad. After all, CN has TV-14 rated shows, why not let JL be one of em'?

-BB

Kal-el
12-21-2001, 10:38 AM
I always thought Lobo was a great character. He's got so many traits that are missing from the villians of the animated universe. Seeing him on JL would be great. I'd be excited to see that ep.

dustin_baetz
12-21-2001, 12:49 PM
Sometimes I wonder about Wolverine's constant smoking and drinking when John Byrne was drawing Uncanny X-Men. Logan, of course, was a hero, whereas Lobo is not... Lobo is a bounty hunter with very few redeemable qualities to his name, and an able satire of rock stars and anti-heroes. I can't see how anyone would want to be like him...

That's why Joe Quesada still allows villains in Marvel Comics to smoke, even though heroes can't anymore. Mastermind traditionally has never appeared without a lit cigarette, and if you look at the long list of crimes he's committed, you'll understand very well that he is a terrible advocate for a terrible vice. Because Lobo is a villain, I say he can smoke and drink all he wants.

Jowy Blight
12-21-2001, 01:14 PM
When and if they put him on JL, I hope they keep the VA from S:TAS. I thought the VA was perfect for this character.

Naraht
12-21-2001, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by NewMaxFranklin
I'd like to see Lobo again as well. He's a fun character. Much like Wolverine, but with a twisted sense of humor.

A Lobo vs Wolverine Grudge Match...now there's a pay-per-view I'd get...

As to the smoking/drinking..I doubt it..

the "It might influence kids" factor is getting blown out of proportion, but they are aware of it.

Even in the comics, Marvel's had Logan & Nick Fury quit the habit...despite the fact that Logan is unaffected by the negative effects of Cigar smoking...(due to his healing factor)

metaphysician
12-21-2001, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by naraht


A Lobo vs Wolverine Grudge Match...now there's a pay-per-view I'd get...

As to the smoking/drinking..I doubt it..

the "It might influence kids" factor is getting blown out of proportion, but they are aware of it.

Even in the comics, Marvel's had Logan & Nick Fury quit the habit...despite the fact that Logan is unaffected by the negative effects of Cigar smoking...(due to his healing factor)

Actually, no. Wolverine vs. Lobo wouldn't be a good fight. It would be a slaughter.

Lobo is strong enough to take on Supes on even terms. One solid hit from him, and Wolverine will be very lucky if he BARELY survives. More likely, his brain and internal organs will be turned to goo.

As for if Wolverine strikes first, not only does Lobo have invulnerability near to Supes, but he heals like the Shaggy Man. NOTHING Wolverine could do to him would have the slightest effect, other than to annoy him.

And this is assuming that Lobo doesn't have his cloning ability any more. He used to be able to regrow multiple copies of himself from blood droplets.

Naraht
12-21-2001, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by metaphysician


Actually, no. Wolverine vs. Lobo wouldn't be a good fight. It would be a slaughter.

Lobo is strong enough to take on Supes on even terms. One solid hit from him, and Wolverine will be very lucky if he BARELY survives. More likely, his brain and internal organs will be turned to goo.

As for if Wolverine strikes first, not only does Lobo have invulnerability near to Supes, but he heals like the Shaggy Man. NOTHING Wolverine could do to him would have the slightest effect, other than to annoy him.

And this is assuming that Lobo doesn't have his cloning ability any more. He used to be able to regrow multiple copies of himself from blood droplets.

Ok, this'll be my only reply to this...cause I don't want to start a flame war (or the impression of one..)
There was a thread a while back talking a about a Wolvie vs Superman fight..
Wolverine actually has a few things going for him..
Depending on who's writing him (his powers fluctuate) he's a really quick heal.
Adamantium, if assumed to be as Marvel claims, the strongest metal known...would thereby be able to cut Lobo, since it was assumed in the last thread, that Adamantium cuts Kryptonians.
Logan's gone up against super strong ppl..including the Hulk. He can take care of himself..

Anyway, unless DC & Marvel do a crossover...it's really a moot point, cause they exist in seperate universes, and it's like the enterprise vs. the Death Star...it's comes down to which one you like better

Karkull
12-21-2001, 02:49 PM
I thought that Wolverine could still smoke...he had a lit cigar in last months issue (but didn't take a drag off of it).

Naraht
12-21-2001, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Karkull
I thought that Wolverine could still smoke...he had a lit cigar in last months issue (but didn't take a drag off of it).

Well...he is in 103294 titles @ the moment...
I know he quit in X-Men (@least in most of em..I dunno..he pops up all over the place..)

Karkull
12-21-2001, 02:58 PM
It was Grant Morrison's New X-Men title.

Now, I don't smoke, but I think that this whole inquisition against smoking is ludicrous. Okay, I could understand most of the Marvel heroes, but Wolverine? Not only does it not affect him, but it's almost out of spite--he's mocking death.

I still like the idea of Lobo smoking cigars. Sorry, but it still looks cool on some characters.

SimonMoon5
12-21-2001, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by naraht

Anyway, unless DC & Marvel do a crossover...it's really a moot point, cause they exist in seperate universes

Well, DC & Marvel *did* do a crossover or twelve. Unfortunately, they had several fights which the fans voted on, to decide the outcome. Naturally, the X-Men characters are far more popular than characters like Wonder Woman or Lobo, so Storm defeated Wonder Woman :eek: and Wolverine defeated Lobo. For the Wolverine/Lobo fight, it seemed that the writer couldn't figure out any way that this could actually happen, so the fight took place off panel. :o

Regarding Wolverine's chances against Superman: sorry, I don't buy it. His claws can be really tough, but you still have to put enough power (ie, strength) behind it to cut through something really tough. Wolverine can't cut through Captain America's shield, for example, as we've seen in the comics. Superman could be thought of as being made of the same stuff as Cap's shield. :) Well, pre-Crisis anyway. He's not quite that tough anymore, but he's as tough as heroes get. At best, Wolvie should be able to inflict only minimal damage if he hits. Of course, if we're talking the animated versions, Superman goes down in one hit, since he's so completely helpless.

Regarding Wolverine against Lobo: Lobo is a parody of Wolverine-types. He wasn't originally, but that's what he has become. As a cartoon-ish, overly extreme parody of Wolverine, he can't help but beat Wolverine. He's everything about Wolverine taken to absurd degrees (of course, Wolvie's already pretty absurd to begin with). Just conceptually, Wolverine can't win.

On the other hand, Lobo tends to have a close fight, no matter who he's fighting against, whether it's Superman or some guys in a bar. Personally, I think Lobo's power level fluctuates according to who he is fighting against. Unfortunately, that's not canon, afaik.

metaphysician
12-21-2001, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by naraht


Ok, this'll be my only reply to this...cause I don't want to start a flame war (or the impression of one..)
There was a thread a while back talking a about a Wolvie vs Superman fight..
Wolverine actually has a few things going for him..
Depending on who's writing him (his powers fluctuate) he's a really quick heal.
Adamantium, if assumed to be as Marvel claims, the strongest metal known...would thereby be able to cut Lobo, since it was assumed in the last thread, that Adamantium cuts Kryptonians.
Logan's gone up against super strong ppl..including the Hulk. He can take care of himself..

Anyway, unless DC & Marvel do a crossover...it's really a moot point, cause they exist in seperate universes, and it's like the enterprise vs. the Death Star...it's comes down to which one you like better

Actually, there WAS a crossover, but they aren't canon.

Lobo's healing factor is FAR superior to Wolverines. The fact that Wolverine heals fast is moot, since Lobo heals faster.

Adamantium CAN cut Lobo. It won't matter. No matter what Wolverine cuts, Lobo will heal it.

There is no way for Wolverine to inflict lasting damage on Lobo. Lobo, OTOH, needs only a couple of Superman-level punches to inflict immediately fatal injuries to Wolverine.