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Cartman
12-18-2001, 10:32 AM
Was the Wackyland scene in this cartoon reused animation from PORKY IN WACKYLAND or was it brand new animation (I know that some of it probably was like the Hitler/Hirohito scene)

Greg Method
12-18-2001, 02:15 PM
Some of it was reused from "Porky in Wackyland," and some of it was redone completely.

And to come full circle, some of the color footage from "...Cats" was reused for "Dough for the Do-Do."

Thad Komorowski
12-18-2001, 09:13 PM
The "Rubber Band" scene was new animation. Most of the animation (and the same exact music and voices) during the Fats Wallar and Louie Armstrong cats' jam session was reused from a similar scene in Friz Freleng's "September in the Rain". Of course, the part where the black man's chicken starts dancing is brand new animation.



-Thad

Paul Penna
12-18-2001, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Greg Method
And to come full circle, some of the color footage from "...Cats" was reused for "Dough for the Do-Do."

I...... dunno about that. The way you phrased that, it sounds like you mean that portions of "Tin Pan Alley Cats" were edited into "Do-Do," which isn't the case. The latter used all newly-created cels and backgrounds, albeit the cels were based on/copied from/rotoscoped from "Wackyland."

Does anything appear in "Do-Do" which _was_ in "Alley Cats" but _wasn't_ in "Wackyland," BTW?

PlopKat
12-18-2001, 11:39 PM
Paul Penna wrote:
Does anything appear in "Do-Do" which _was_ in "Alley Cats" but _wasn't_ in "Wackyland," BTW?

The rubber band in Tin Pan Alley Cats makes a return engagement in Dough For The Do-Do, I do believe.

-PlopKat

Jack
12-18-2001, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Paul Penna


I...... dunno about that. The way you phrased that, it sounds like you mean that portions of "Tin Pan Alley Cats" were edited into "Do-Do," which isn't the case. The latter used all newly-created cels and backgrounds, albeit the cels were based on/copied from/rotoscoped from "Wackyland."

When Porky first views the nuttiness of Wackyland (when it pans across that stuff like the rabbit swinging by his ears, and the guy who can't get out of jail), the background art is completely different from the other Dali-esque Paul Julian backgrounds. They have bright rainbow colors, as well as "zoot" painted into them. They look just like the same scene in "Tin Pan Alley Cats."


Jack :D

Greg Method
12-19-2001, 01:29 AM
<< When Porky first views the nuttiness of Wackyland (when it pans across that stuff like the rabbit swinging by his ears, and the guy who can't get out of jail), the background art is completely different from the other Dali-esque Paul Julian backgrounds. They have bright rainbow colors, as well as "zoot" painted into them. They look just like the same scene in "Tin Pan Alley Cats." >>

Exactly, that's mainly the shot I was referring to, starting with the blue flower-dweller "playing" his nose. I'm not sure if it had been redubbed, but the actual footage is the same. You can see that many of the creatures have "Jolsen lips" drawn on them, which IIRC was added in "Cats."

Of course, the original footage did originate from "Porky in Wackyland," but Clampett himself colored it for "Cats." This is funny because in an interview Bob talked about how he didn't like the idea that the studio did the color "Dough for the Do-Do" after he left...even though he colored one of the scenes himself.

So everyone's right. The original Wackyland footage was either redone or retraced for "Dough for the Do-Do," but that one shot did in fact previously appear in "Tin Pan Alley Cats."