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Skank
08-14-2005, 09:07 PM
If you were going to split up cartoon network into seperate networks, ho would you do it? Here's Mine:

Cartoon Network Origianals- Return the name Cartoon Cartoons and have them be the only thing on the main channel. Have as much of the old ones, however, as the new ones. Fridays can be the place for premieres, but without Tommy and Tara.

Toonami- An all action, all day channel, much like CNX in the UK.

Miguzi- A block on Toonami for younger children.

Boomerang- Good as it is.

Tickle U- A small kids channel like Noggin or Pbs kids.

Reruns from Kids WB! and 4KIDS TV- The ones that won't go on Toonami or Boomerang won't go on the air.

Adult Swim Comedy- It's own Adult Swim network.

Adult Swim Action- Late nights on Toonami.

I'm not saying it's a great idea but it's an interesting one.

livingfruitvirus
08-14-2005, 09:46 PM
(this is, of course, ignoring any prior focus testing and research for demand of these new channels)

Cartoon Network - All kids' shows 24 hours. Throw some pre-2002 shows back into the mix to fill the time lost by Adult Swim, organize accordingly. Spread Toonami to weeknights for 2 hours a night.

Boomerang - Change the name. I hate the name Boomerang.

Adult Swim - Throw all AS programming on this channel. It'll be low on content for a while, but hopefully demand increases and the network profits. The main purpose of this is to eliminate the problem of tightening standards due to sharing space with kids' shows.

Cartoon Cartoons - All cancelled Cartoon Network originals.

Pepperidge
08-14-2005, 10:19 PM
Cartoon Network - Shows targeted at general audiences during the day (including TV-PG), Adult Swim at night.

Cartoon Network Kids - Shows targeted specifically at kids 2-11 all day.

Boomerang - Same as is.

Wanted
08-15-2005, 07:05 AM
If you were going to split up cartoon network into seperate networks, ho would you do it? Here's Mine:

Cartoon Network Origianals- Return the name Cartoon Cartoons and have them be the only thing on the main channel. Have as much of the old ones, however, as the new ones. Fridays can be the place for premieres, but without Tommy and Tara.

Toonami- An all action, all day channel, much like CNX in the UK.

Miguzi- A block on Toonami for younger children.

Boomerang- Good as it is.

Tickle U- A small kids channel like Noggin or Pbs kids.

Reruns from Kids WB! and 4KIDS TV- The ones that won't go on Toonami or Boomerang won't go on the air.

Adult Swim Comedy- It's own Adult Swim network.

Adult Swim Action- Late nights on Toonami.

I'm not saying it's a great idea but it's an interesting one.WTF? Certainly not. Setting up eight networks just for Cartoon Network when Turner only has but eight or so American networks? If I were to make adjustments to the Turner networks, I certainly wouldn't do it that way.

My idea would, rather than adding a bunch of new channels like that, I'd reform the Cartoon Network that already exists, keep Boomerang how it is now, and simply create CNX here in the states. That way, you get crossovers with TNT, Toonami, and Adult Swim and get to compete with networks like FX. A channel like that would certainly make its way into homes faster than Boomerang, with a little advertism help from Cartoon Network, TNT, and other Turner networks.

A Cartoon Cartoons (Cartoon Network Originals) channel is simply unnecessary, if Turner were just to clean up house.

So, here's the plan for Cartoon Network branches/collaborations:

Boomerang - as is

CNX - The best elements of TNT, Toonami and Adult Swim mixed into one channel. Comedy and action for men. 'Nuff said.

Apparently not. Some TNT and Adult Swim shows would crossover to this channel, and then this channel would be left to come up with some original concepts. That's when the channel really starts coming alive.

Mr Cat Dog
08-16-2005, 06:52 AM
The same as Turner UK, only better. When I talk about the following, I mean in terms of UK channels, for anyone who'll be confused.

Cartoon Network - Major refurbishments, import at least some action shows (the most popular ones) over from Toonami, and much less repeats. It's all very well that everyone loves Foster's and Xiaolin Showdown, but WE DON'T NEED TO SEE THEM 4 HOURS A DAY! In the US, get rid of Adult Swim to make room for Pre-2002 stuff, especially the CCs that don't have much of a look-in such as Robot Jones and Sheep. Put a daytime preschool block in, and replace Miguzi with a daily Toonami... but skip the actual Toonami on Saturdays

Boomerang - Make it like the UK channel (bar Duck Dodgers). Put commercials in, have a greater variety of programming, advertise cross-channels... anything to get attention to the public that it exists.

CNX/Toonami/Action Channel - Toonami UK, but infinitely times better! Have the less mainstream stuff like SEED Destiny, and more top-quality action shows. Also, to stop the shows that are currently available running thin, have a bit of comedy that wouldn't be in touch with Cartoon Network, but wouldn't feel right on AS. From 9-6, AS would air both comedy and action.

Donald Duck 12
08-16-2005, 05:57 PM
To equal up to the number of Nickelodean Networks, I would give CN 5 networks. This is almost pure fantasy:

Cartoon Network: Everything
Boomerang: Good old classics.
Adult Swim: Well... Adult Swim.
CNA: Comedy aNimation Aired: Old WBC, CC's, and Adult Swim Comedies.
Random Channel with Shows everyone hates.

Wanted
08-17-2005, 09:14 AM
To equal up to the number of Nickelodean Networks, I would give CN 5 networks.What five networks? I know for a fact that there's Nicktoons, GAS, Nick, the N/Noggin, and ...?

Mr Cat Dog
08-17-2005, 09:20 AM
Nick Jr? o.o

Geezil
08-17-2005, 10:19 AM
I'd move all the classic theatrical cartoon shorts (in their original form wherever possible!) over to Turner Classic Movies, where at least they'd finally be treated with the respect they deserve.

Yes, that means Tom & Jerry too.

Andrew T. Hingson
08-17-2005, 03:37 PM
Pep's idea of CN, CN Kids and Boomerang works for me but...

CN Kids - Anything for the 2-11 set including Tickle U, Friday and Miguzi - nothing above Y7

CN Comedy - Classics, older originals and Adult Swim comedy (9-17 and 18-34) - allows TV-PG in prime time and TV-14 after 9PM

Toonami or CN Action - Classics, Toonami programing new and old and Adult Swim action (9-17 and 18-34) - alows TV-PG in prime time and TV-14 after 9PM

Boomerang would be part of CNA and CNC and maybe even air some shows on CN Kids in the later hours.

AS might still be indicated as it's own network for 18-34.

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Or maybe just two channels

CN Kids - 2-11 all the kid safe shows with classics for overnights instead of Adult Swim and some older CC as well

The Cartoon Network - 9-24 including classics, older originals, and whatever has appeal beyond the 2-11 demo as well as Toonami (daily again) and Adult Swim starting at 9PM. Prime Time would be the oldest targeting shows outside of Adult Swim.

Wanted
08-17-2005, 04:11 PM
Sort of seems odd to make a Cartoon Network Kids when Cartoon Network is a kids' network. Why not just leave it with the regular moniker "Cartoon Network"? I wonder if a 2-11 network even exists.

And, you know that would be just wrong for the kids. Cartoon Network could stand as a sampler network (like it should be [Where's my Boomerang?]).

Are there even enough animated comedies to fill a network?

Cartoon Network Comedy + Cartoon Network Action + Live Action Elements = CNX


Nick Jr? o.oSuch a network doesn't exist. Well, it does, but it's called Noggin. Say it with me, kids. Nooooooooooggggggiinnnnnnnnnn. That's your brain. Ah-hyuck!

One Radical Dude
08-17-2005, 04:30 PM
I may just support another network, if Boomerang becomes a pre-school network. We don't need, however, 5-8 Time Warner animated or children's networks. How many do we need, anyway?

Andrew T. Hingson
08-17-2005, 04:53 PM
The mind set behind that is while "cartoons are just for kids" as they say The Cartoon Network (at least originally) was more than just a channel trying to take over Nick's kids animation territory.

CN Kids would air the stuff CN currently air while TCN would air the best cartoons of any age and not focus soley on 2-11 like CN usually does.

No live action. BOOOOOH! CNX can be made without live action.

There's actually plenty of shows to fill all these channels. Have you looked at CN's schedules? They air roughly half of their possible library. This would cover more bases.

adam.inman
08-17-2005, 04:58 PM
i would split it up like this boomerang in the mornings cartoonnetwork regs like ed ed eddy,powerpuffgirls,kids next door then adult swim action till morning

Daffy Dork
08-17-2005, 06:14 PM
Leave boomerang as is

Cartoons cartoons: for Classic CN originals

Adult swim crazy comedy channel: AS comedy shows! (You can see the same family guy eps. a bajillion more times now! yay!)

Anime: I don't like it and there's already an anime network

Now seriously, We only need 1 CN, all the classics and adult swim shows are coming to dvd, now all we need is cartoon cartoons,maybe samurai jack is an indication of the future...

Space Cadet
08-19-2005, 04:38 PM
Cartoon Network - The original home. Here, they would air CN Fridays, Tickle U, and Mizugi. The network would target 2-11, 6-11, and 9-14. It would be a mostly comedy-oriented network similar to Nick.


Cartoon Network 2 - Toonami and Adult Swim would go here and air from Monday-Sunday. Toonami would be on in the afternoons for 3 hours and Adult Swim would start at 10 p.m. and end at 5 a.m. The Rising Sun would air in the mornings from 8-12. Since this is CN2, the network would not be limited to action shows. Comedy shows would air and drama shows would be featured on the network. Classic cartoons would air, usually in the morning or where ever a programming hole needs to be filled. The network would target 9-14, 12-17, and 18-34.

Classic Animation TV - Just as the title suggests, the network will be the place where classic animation will air. The network would be run by true animation enthusiasts, such as Jerry Beck, Michael Barrier, etc. Instead of being limited to just what Time Warner owns, this network would also air classic animation that other companies own. Terrytoons, other Paramount shorts, other MGM shorts, and even(if Disney let them) Disney shorts would air here. The network would target 25-54 year olds.

Andrew T. Hingson
08-19-2005, 06:24 PM
I don't think Jerry Beck and co. can run a channel... But it sure as heck would be interesting.

Wanted
08-19-2005, 09:56 PM
The mind set behind that is while "cartoons are just for kids" as they say The Cartoon Network (at least originally) was more than just a channel trying to take over Nick's kids animation territory.True.


CN Kids would air the stuff CN currently air while TCN would air the best cartoons of any age and not focus soley on 2-11 like CN usually does.So, Cartoon Network Kids would be like Cartoon Network is now...? Confuzors.


No live action. BOOOOOH! CNX can be made without live action. Hey, I'm cool with live-action, as long as it isn't crap... or gamers' stuff. We get enough of that on G4. Just action and comedy.


There's actually plenty of shows to fill all these channels. Have you looked at CN's schedules? They air roughly half of their possible library. This would cover more bases.More like roughly one-third. But, a reformed Cartoon Network would cover more bases.

Andrew T. Hingson
08-20-2005, 02:54 AM
True.

So, Cartoon Network Kids would be like Cartoon Network is now...? Confuzors.

Hey, I'm cool with live-action, as long as it isn't crap... or gamers' stuff. We get enough of that on G4. Just action and comedy.

More like roughly one-third. But, a reformed Cartoon Network would cover more bases. Yeah it's basically CN now. I call it CN Kids because it's so kid heavy it doesn't deserve to be The Cartoon Network when it's clearly the Kids Cartoon Network. Thus CN Kids. Devoid of even what little higher targeting programs our CN has because they could always get better ratings with 6-11 without them... apparently.

No, no live action. That's what TNT and TBS are for.

Eh... it was an estimate. Mind you I wasn't counting the less likely to air shows on Boomerang.

Style
08-20-2005, 03:24 AM
I know that the guys at williams street have put it on their christmas list, but I don't think Adult Swim has now or would have in the future enough programming to justify spinning them off into their own network. Same for Toonami.

I think Brainatra first hatched this plan, and I think it's a good one.

CN: Same as today, launching new shows and housing AS and Toonami.

Boomerang: Same.

CN 2/Toons: A network that airs popular past run but now cancelled shows that premiered on CN, (and maybe Kids WB.) There's a huge backlog of these shows that people are demanding get rerun, and it seems main CN doesn't have the room any more. This would show the cancelled classics.

One Radical Dude
08-20-2005, 03:43 AM
Not a bad idea. However, what if Boomerang becomes "Tickle-U" or simply a pre-school network, would you think differently?

Space Cadet
08-20-2005, 01:37 PM
I don't think Jerry Beck and co. can run a channel... But it sure as heck would be interesting.
Maybe not, but at least people who know their animation history. Also, we could have the people who run Turner Classic Movies run the network.

Draft
08-20-2005, 02:33 PM
cartoon cartoons: dedicated to cn shows, only
tickle u/miguzi/toonami: t is a split block okay!!
boomerang: no sho past 1990 allowed, unless a spinoff, which is 1997
cn: regular old cn

stargirl
08-20-2005, 03:03 PM
Cartoon Network: Same as is.

Cartoon Classics: it's Boomerang, but renamed.

Tickle U from Cartoon Network: channel for the little ones.


:cool:

Wanted
08-20-2005, 03:06 PM
No, no live action. That's what TNT and TBS are for.True. Two birds with one stone.

.bg
08-22-2005, 12:42 PM
If I had my way...


Miguzi has a rediculous amount of time of Cartoon Network. Miguzi would be only on Sundays during my ruling.
Toonami would be replaced by a block called CNX:Prevue. CNX would be a Toonami-style channel.
Adult Swim would be spun off into its own channel.
Sheep in the Big City and Cow & Chicken would be recommissioned.
That's what I'd do.

Wanted
08-22-2005, 03:12 PM
If I had my way...


Miguzi has a rediculous amount of time of Cartoon Network. Miguzi would be only on Sundays during my ruling.
Toonami would be replaced by a block called CNX:Prevue. CNX would be a Toonami-style channel.
Adult Swim would be spun off into its own channel.
Sheep in the Big City and Cow & Chicken would be recommissioned.
That's what I'd do.Let me tell you why that wouldn't work:

Miguzi needs to be on Cartoon Network weekdays, for one reason or another. What good is it going to do on Sundays? Might as well just yank it if you're going to do that. And, I wouldn't necessarily call twenty-eight hours a "rediculous amount of time," seeing as how Adult Swim holds over that now, and Toonami has in the past. And, it's ridiculous.

Might as well call it Toonami, if you're going to make the spinoff a "Toonami-style channel."

Assembler
08-22-2005, 07:29 PM
If you were going to split up cartoon network into seperate networks, ho would you do it? Here's Mine:

Cartoon Network Origianals- Return the name Cartoon Cartoons and have them be the only thing on the main channel. Have as much of the old ones, however, as the new ones. Fridays can be the place for premieres, but without Tommy and Tara.

Toonami- An all action, all day channel, much like CNX in the UK.

Miguzi- A block on Toonami for younger children.

Boomerang- Good as it is.

Tickle U- A small kids channel like Noggin or Pbs kids.

Reruns from Kids WB! and 4KIDS TV- The ones that won't go on Toonami or Boomerang won't go on the air.

Adult Swim Comedy- It's own Adult Swim network.

Adult Swim Action- Late nights on Toonami.

I'm not saying it's a great idea but it's an interesting one.mine is similar to yourhere it is

cartoon network originals- cartoons cartoons,cartoon network studios show like cow&chicken and fosters.(tickle u included)

Toonami/ASA-24/7 action adrenalion rush programming.:D

Boomerang-old classics like toon heads chuck jones and tex avery shows

Adult swim comedy-every adult swim comedy shows from ATHF-20 0z mouse

Jeff Harris
08-26-2005, 01:46 AM
Before they "split up" Cartoon Network into spinoff networks, they need to fix the original. Get people who actually appreciate, know, and love animation in positions of power at the network rather than a guy who just operated the official webpage, you know? (http://www.thexbridge.com/ameoba6.html) Fix up the network before they get all crazy and launch more networks they won't strongly convince cable operators (you know, the guys who make up a lot of their finances from local ad space) to pick up. When they do fix up the network, here's what I'd do:

- Relaunch Boomerang as CN Classic. Classic animation 24/7 with retrospective shows like Toonheads and create weekly popnost shows. There are celebrities that will beg to be on them.

- CN Comedy (http://www.thexbridge.com/ameoba4.html): A network that airs all the older Cartoon Network comedy originals (including reruns of the older "retired" Adult Swim shows).

- Warehouse from Cartoon Network (http://www.thexbridge.com/imagine7.html): Give Williams Street their own network. Seriously. Let them program their own network, create their own rules, and acquire their own shows without the heavy breathing of Cartoon Network heads down their necks.

- POGO (http://www.thexbridge.com/ameoba7.html): Nickelodeon doesn't have a true competitor in this country. Disney Channel is a mess (and still non-commerical, despite having ad-space time set up). ABC Family is idiotic and a cacophony of mishmashed programming. They already have established the POGO brand in Asia, so why not create a Nick killer stateside?

Andrew T. Hingson
08-26-2005, 04:52 AM
I'm gonna have to make a Warehouse schedule. I'm just gonna have to do it.

Wanted
08-26-2005, 09:08 AM
Before they "split up" Cartoon Network into spinoff networks, they need to fix the original. Get people who actually appreciate, know, and love animation in positions of power at the network rather than a guy who just operated the official webpage, you know? (http://www.thexbridge.com/ameoba6.html) Fix up the network before they get all crazy and launch more networks they won't strongly convince cable operators (you know, the guys who make up a lot of their finances from local ad space) to pick up. When they do fix up the network, here's what I'd do:Don't we believe so? After all, it'd just be plain stupid (and a massacre of an idea) to go off spinning networks when the one you have before you isn't even that great; and the one spinoff that already exists, most cable providers don't even offer.


- Relaunch Boomerang as CN Classic. Classic animation 24/7 with retrospective shows like Toonheads and create weekly popnost shows. There are celebrities that will beg to be on them.And, it wouldn't hurt to have a special commemorating the shows that air on the channel every weekend or so (sort of like what you see on the DVDs).


- CN Comedy (http://www.thexbridge.com/ameoba4.html): A network that airs all the older Cartoon Network comedy originals (including reruns of the older "retired" Adult Swim shows).I have not one qualm with this idea.


- Warehouse from Cartoon Network (http://www.thexbridge.com/imagine7.html): Give Williams Street their own network. Seriously. Let them program their own network, create their own rules, and acquire their own shows without the heavy breathing of Cartoon Network heads down their necks.I can hear them...

CAH-HA... CAH-HA... I... am your father!

Williams Street practically holds Cartoon Network up from year to year (has there ever been a year since 2000 that they didn't?), and it wouldn't be right not to have this come true sometime in the future.


- POGO (http://www.thexbridge.com/ameoba7.html): Nickelodeon doesn't have a true competitor in this country. Disney Channel is a mess (and still non-commerical, despite having ad-space time set up). ABC Family is idiotic and a cacophony of mishmashed programming. They already have established the POGO brand in Asia, so why not create a Nick killer stateside?Yeah, I almost forgot that Pogo existed, even though I've advocated it in the past. But, Pogo would be the network to compete with Nick. It's a family network in Asia, and Cartoon Network could spin it off here as the same. Even though it'd be a spin off of Cartoon Network, it wouldn't be a cartoon network itself. Family shows and family movies, with Tickle U in the morning. Sounds nice enough.

Then again, with all of these spin-offs, there'd have to be a way to figuratively "get rid" of the original (having Cartoon Network there would only make Pogo's task more difficult). I figure since Pogo is the closest to Cartoon Network of all the spin-offs, it could replace Cartoon Network.