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Binker
08-10-2005, 02:43 PM
TB is considered a elseworld Batman series, but it also uses many elemenst from several Batman incarnations. Heres what I found:

60s:
The logo, Batman's suit, Batgirl's cuit, Mr. Freeze as a villian, the bat poles in the cave, the Batmobile (well Batmobile #1 since there is a second one on the way), half of Catwoman's suit,.

Tim Burton's Batman movies:
Creepiness and semi-creepiness of characters, actions, and settings. Joker (semi), original version of Joker (creepy), Penguin from Batman Returns, the snow setting in Batman Returns reminded me of Burton while the inside Joker's mind, which in turn is based on The Cell, is very Burton-like, the Batboat is somewhat similar to the Bat SkiBoat, Batmobile #2 kinda represents the Batmobile from the first two films. In TB, the cave alos uses the sewer systems, theres a debate right now if thats the same for Batman '89/Batman Returns for the cave. Believe it or not, Wayne Manor is a clone of the Batman Returns one.

Schumacher's Batman films:
Wayne CEO of his company rather than Fox, Mr. Freeze combination of villian and wife, Freeze freezing the city, the Riddler swinging and having gadgets inside the cane, bat symbols located in numberous places in the cave.

Comics:
Ellen Yin's name is based on New Commissioner Ellen Yindel from The Dark Knight Returns, Mayor Grange and the idea of having Hush, a post-No Man's Land-like batcave. Hugo Strange was a major villian after appearing as a character first, villian later.

Elseworlds:
Of course, The Batman vs. Dracula is based on the three part Red Rain books.

What they didn't then, they're doing now:
Bruce Timm wanted to do vampires and vampire characters like Nocturna in BTAS but couldn't. Now, TB's crew has done two vampire characters, who knows whats next.

That's what I got as of now. Anybody on anything?

elfwithagun
08-10-2005, 03:45 PM
You got some pretty good stuff there. How about elements of the batman comic books when they put a museum in the batcave in "Swamped"

Drizzt2218
08-10-2005, 04:10 PM
Don't forget a heavy influence from the '70s comics, Englehart and Rogers, O'Neil and Adams, etc. Hugo Strange was one of the first Batman foes, but later established himself as a major threat within the pages of the Englehart/Rogers comics. The version of Man-Bat on this series is almost lifted entirely from the original version which debuted in the '70s; that is to say, a mad scientist-type who wanted the powers of a bat, as opposed to someone who by sheer accident became Man-Bat. The general tone of the series is, in fact, very similar to the tone that the Batman comics had in the '70s.

--Larry

Binker
08-10-2005, 04:48 PM
I'll add them there later.

As for Swamped, I dunno about the statues there.

Harley_Quinn
08-11-2005, 09:30 AM
Good eye, not a fan of the show but love reading stuff like this.

Binker
08-23-2005, 12:16 AM
Found this to prove a point of the BR and TB Manor:

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