Question about Batman (Beyond) design in Epilogue (Possible Spoilers)

[JLU Dude]

I was watching Epilogue and noticed that the pouches on Terry's belt on his costume in Epilogue had actually looked like pouches similar to Bruce in the presnt day. Was that interentional?

[melibell21]

i dunno didn't notice it

[Trevor Balena]

I was watching Epilogue and noticed that the pouches on Terry's belt on his costume in Epilogue had actually looked like pouches similar to Bruce in the presnt day. Was that interentional?
Not only that, but Terry's Bat-symbol was smaller than it used to be. Both design elements bring Terry's uniform closer to Bruce's JLU uniform, so this might have been symbolism at work (for obvious reasons).

[efumf]

I really hope they make an action figure of that costume. :sweat:

[Harley_Quinn]

I really hope they make an action figure of that costume. :sweat:
I hope they make figures of his classic design and the one in epilogue.

[melibell21]

i liked the epilogue on i think, now that i watched it again. i finally noticed. i also like terry older.

[Reverend]

Not only that, but Terry's Bat-symbol was smaller than it used to be. Both design elements bring Terry's uniform closer to Bruce's JLU uniform, so this might have been symbolism at work (for obvious reasons).
Speaking of which, did anyone else notice that Terry's "old" suit has replaced Bruce's old TNBA costume in the display case? Now that's symbolism.

[Batmex]

And that really old Bruce design was an unused version for BB?

[Sirkenz17]

Speaking of which, did anyone else notice that Terry's "old" suit has replaced Bruce's old TNBA costume in the display case? Now that's symbolism.I noticed that too. I think my redundancy-o-meter broke when I realized that.

Oh, and I noticed the belt design too.:D

[adoptedBatpuppy]

Now that you mention, it was hard not to notice. Did anyone liked Terry's hair cut? It was sure different, from when he was a teen. Terry was acting more machurely, then when he was a seventeen year-old! :cool:

[karasu]

Oddly enough I thought his suit looked outdated.

[Harley_Quinn]

I kind of thought the suit looked more like when Bruce was wearing it at the very start of the BB series.

[Knight]

I always found it odd that in Rebirth Terry who was obviously smaller than Bruce was able to fit his suit without any problems. The batsuit should have been far too big for him unless it somehow resizes itself to fit the person currently wearing it.

[Toddman]

I always found it odd that in Rebirth Terry who was obviously smaller than Bruce was able to fit his suit without any problems. The batsuit should have been far too big for him unless it somehow resizes itself to fit the person currently wearing it.
Maybe the suit uses some of the technology from that "programable" metal that was seen in MOTB. And Batwoman's costume does bear a noticable similarity to the BB duds.


Toddman

[Fone Bone]

Maybe the suit uses some of the technology from that "programable" metal that was seen in MOTB. And Batwoman's costume does bear a noticable similarity to the BB duds.


ToddmanI doubt that's the answer as that movie came years after Batman Beyond and had no involvment from Bruce Timm.

A more likely explaination is that the suit is made of a form fitting latex for whoever wears it.

[Knight]

I doubt that's the answer as that movie came years after Batman Beyond and had no involvment from Bruce Timm. I dont think when it came out really matters. They can always make it fit if they want. Warhawk debuted way before JL/JLU and he was later revealed to be the son of John Stewart and Shayera Hol. Anything can happen.


A more likely explaination is that the suit is made of a form fitting latex for whoever wears it. Is that supposed to be latex? I know there is a lot of circuitry under the outer shell of the outfit as we have seen when its been damaged before. I wouldnt imagine the material was just plain latex.

[Fone Bone]

I dont think when it came out really matters. They can always make it fit if they want. Warhawk debuted way before JL/JLU and he was later revealed to be the son of John Stewart and Shayera Hol. Anything can happen. But the problem existed BEFORE Batwoman. Sure it could fit as an explaination but the problem was there from the get-go and the Shayera-John revelation about Warhawk wasn't even something that required that explaination.


Is that supposed to be latex? I know there is a lot of circuitry under the outer shell of the outfit as we have seen when its been damaged before. I wouldnt imagine the material was just plain latex.Well, I'd picture there'd be circuitry in there too but I'm just assuming it a futuristic material that resembles Latex. I didn't actually mean that it WAS.

[Knight]

But the problem existed BEFORE Batwoman. Sure it could fit as an explaination but the problem was there from the get-go Ok. So the problem existed before the Batwoman movie. I know this. Does it make a difference?
and the Shayera-John revelation about Warhawk wasn't even something that required that explaination. I never said it did. That was a example of how they can connect almost anything they want on the show to something else. GL,Shayera and Warhawk are now connected where before they weren't. So if the creators wanted they could connect the substance from MOTB to the batman beyond suit (not that I am in favor of this just that it could be done).

[Fone Bone]

Ok. So the problem existed before the Batwoman movie. I know this. Does it make a difference? Well, it contrasts with the John Shayera example for me. One seems to be a case of the writers actually creating a backstory for something that wasn't questionable in the first place. The second regards a problem that the creators probably had in mind from the outset and already had an explaination for.

I never said it did. That was a example of how they can connect almost anything they want on the show to something else. GL,Shayera and Warhawk are now connected where before they weren't. So if the creators wanted they could connect the substance from MOTB to the batman beyond suit (not that I am in favor of this just that it could be done).Definately. They could do that but it seems to me the most likely explaination is that it is some futuristic material Bruce invented or aquired. I wonder how Occam's Razor fits into this. I mean that the simplest explaination is usually the correct one. But they could definately do what you're suggesting if they wanted to. But since the problem was there from the outset that suggests to me that the creators already had an explaination in mind when they designed the Batsuit. And since MOTB came later and involved no imput from Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, or Glen Murikami it seems likely to me that it isn't the answer because the creaters probably worked it out in the writer's Bible or something. I'm not sure if that makes sense.

[Toddman]

They could do that but it seems to me the most likely explaination is that it is some futuristic material Bruce invented or aquired.

Exactly, he aquired from Batwoman... :D


Toddman

[Fone Bone]

Exactly, he aquired from Batwoman... :D


ToddmanI suppose you could make the argument that MOTB tried to hint at the Batman Beyond suit, especially considering that the Batwoman costume is practically identical in appearance. I can buy that.

[James]

Maybe the suit uses some of the technology from that "programable" metal that was seen in MOTB. And Batwoman's costume does bear a noticable similarity to the BB duds.
Toddman
On the WF DKA comic, I decided it would be cooler if the suit was designed to be for a character who needed mechanical support other than an aging Bruce Wayne. I didn't like idea of the BB suit compensating for Bruce's weakness, so in DKA we postulate it was designed to support Barbara's back damage that occured in another DKA story.

It seemed a nice way of explaining how malleable the suit material was that it would fit someone like Bruce yet also be tight enough for a slimmer build like Terry or Barbara.

We gave the prototype a yellow emblem not just to reflect Batgirl, but because the BB costume accidently left in Starcrossed's Batcave.. has a yellowish emblem. So the suit in my world :p is based on a prototype suit designed for Barbara that he then rigged for himself when he got older.

Just another perspective... :p

[Style]

^ Oh sure, you can drag DKA into it, but when I try to postulate about the Batman lineage beyond Terry Noooooooooooo.... Can't here none of that.

[James]

^ Oh sure, you can drag DKA into it, but when I try to postulate about the Batman lineage beyond Terry Noooooooooooo.... Can't here none of that. Lol. If I was to say "this idea came from a source who didn't want to be identified... ", then I would allow such a cry of "Noooooooooooooo" to go uncontested... however, the source for such an idea is clearly labelled: me. Yours was not. So neh. ;)

[Toddman]

I suppose you could make the argument that MOTB tried to hint at the Batman Beyond suit, especially considering that the Batwoman costume is practically identical in appearance. I can buy that.

It's all good. :)

And just to hopefully help ease that thought...



And since MOTB came later and involved no input from Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, or Glen Murikami it seems likely to me that it isn't the answer because the creaters probably worked it out in the writer's Bible or something. I'm not sure if that makes sense.

There's one other name you left off that list that not only had a hand in MOTB, but also wrote BB's "Rebirth" (among others)... Alan Burnett, who produced both.

So while any connection between the two costumes is purely speculative, there might still be some actual and intentional retconning involved.

Toddman