Joker

[The New Batman]

Is it just me or does Joker seem a little less crazy in TNBA than B:TAS? Look at Joker in an episode like Laughing Fish or Phantasm. He's truely crazy. Then look at an episode like Jokers Millions or even Worlds Finest and you can tell he's a little more laid back. He still seems crazy, but not as crazy as he once was. What do you think?

[Arachkid]

I'd chalk it up to Joker meeting Harley and getting out of the Gotham dating scene. He doesn't have to try as hard to impress the psychopathic ladies now that he's got a clown-girl to go home to, you know? ;)

[Sugar Daddy]

Originally posted by Arachkid
I'd chalk it up to Joker meeting Harley and getting out of the Gotham dating scene. He doesn't have to try as hard to impress the psychopathic ladies now that he's got a clown-girl to go home to, you know? ;)

haha, i like that idea

[BWDK]

Originally posted by The New Batman
Is it just me or does Joker seem a little less crazy in TNBA than B:TAS? Look at Joker in an episode like Laughing Fish or Phantasm. He's truely crazy. Then look at an episode like Jokers Millions or even Worlds Finest and you can tell he's a little more laid back. He still seems crazy, but not as crazy as he once was. What do you think?

I think the exact way, the WB turned Batman into a kid's cartoon so a crazy Joker was not appropriate.

[The Mad Hatter]

Eh? So the events of "Over the Edge" is more kiddified than what came before?

Actually, WB gave them a lot more creative freedom in what they could do, and let them be less kiddified than the last few episodes of B:TAS. Where did you get the idea that they turned it into a kid's cartoon?

[The Game]

They're right Mad Hatter. The general concensus is that after Batman moved to Kids WB they decided to tone it down- the animation became less realistic and more cartoonish, and generally the show became more of a kids cartoon... But the difference is small if you ask me, with minor differences being the level of Joker's sanity.

But the question about over the edge is a good one... That's a pretty dark episode.

[Maxie Zeus]

Whether TNBA is more "kiddified" depends upon what you're focusing on.

KWB did want episodes that focused more on supervillains, which is why the gangsters like Thorne all disappeared. It also became more action oriented, with less overall emphasis on the psychological.

On the other hand, KWB gave them much more leeway on issues of violence. The Joker could kill, and the network had less of a problem with "kids in danger," which let them use the Tim Drake Robin and put Annie in "Growing Pains" in peril. Timm is even on record as saying that the network passed on some scenes that the creators themselves went back and toned down.

It's the old censorship paradox: Because Fox was more controlling, the producers wound up aiming at a deeper, more psychological level. When the standards relaxed with the move to KWB they were able to indulge in relatively mindless action sequences.

[Barb Gordon]

I'd have to concur with everyone^-^
You certainly notice a difference in Joker when he goes from B:TAS to TNBA. He was truly insane and dark with a sick sense of humour, it was perfect, it was Joker. When he went to TNBA he was goofy and I agree, "kiddified" so that, yes he was insane and dangerous, but did all this stuff in an amusing way which appealed to audiences. It's a shame that they are focusing more on supervillains, I thought that some of the good episodes included those involving just regular criminals like Thorne. It focused more on the everday stuff that Batman would deal with. I can't see a supervillain popping up with a dangerous plot every moment like they seem to do. Batman needs to have a few moments fighting the average badguy once in a while.

Barb^-^

[Calhoun07]

Wait...I wanna see Joker on that dating scene! Was there a version of The Dating Game he could have gone on?