View Full Version : The Legion of Doom in JLU Season 3?
dtemplar
07-17-2005, 05:02 AM
According to you know what, There was a clip from the San Diego Comic-Con involving the upcoming 3rd season of Justice League Unlimited involving The Legion of Doom:
SAN DIEGO -- A preview clip for the next season of Justice League Unlimited show at Comic-Con International on Friday revealed a big development: the Legion of Doom.
In the clip, which starts the new season, Lex Luthor breaks out of jail. When apparently trapped by the police, he miraculously is pulled through a wall. He is then taken to meet Gorilla Grodd, who shows him a familiar-looking building -- and then it's revealed that at least two dozen villains are in it.
Who do you think will be part of the NEW Legion of Doom?
Andrew T. Hingson
07-17-2005, 05:12 AM
No idea... but probably most of the characters in the Super Friends version. But obviously some wont be because they're... well... dead.
But this should be entertaining. The Hall of Justice and The Legion of Doom. Is Super Friends HARDCORE. Very entertaining sounding indeed.
Jiggle-Bot
07-17-2005, 06:56 AM
hmmm.. the guys at Mattel seem to have a vague idea of wot goes on in JLU... case in point - the matrix style varients of the JL7 echoes the Brainiac/Luthor leaguebots the JL7 fought...
So based on comic-con and other pre-release photos...
Safe bets are...
Luthor
Sinestro
Copperhead
Bizzarro
But I think the LOD will be used as a banner under which bt and Co can have super villian team ups streching the DC liscense that WB has.
Lets have Kalibak, Dr Destiny and Toyman work together constructing a giant maze to trap the leaguers in and have the Big K take em out one by one! why are they working together? Coz they're part of the legion of Doom! Boom! Unnecessary plot expostion covered in 2 seconds more time for action and character study
Redemption
07-17-2005, 11:52 AM
Cheetah has been confirmed to be among the Legion.
Dorko
07-17-2005, 12:19 PM
SOunds like they are melding the concept of the original Legion Of Doom with the comic book version of The Secret Society Of Super-VIllains. That sounds really awesome.
adoptedBatpuppy
07-17-2005, 12:22 PM
This is sounds interesting! :)
FreedomBlack
07-17-2005, 12:33 PM
I'd say most of the Superfriends version, minus Grundy. Here's my wish list for other potential members.
Joker
Harley Quinn
Poison Ivy
Livewire (they REALLY need to get Lori Petty back for her, though)
Volcana
Atomic Skull (from The Cat and the Canary)
Fastball (I forget what ep I saw him in)
Parasite
Joker1238
07-17-2005, 01:34 PM
IF they are doing a LOD, I want the 13 from the Superfreinds. Big wish I know lol. But I know it wont happen because of Scarcrow and Riddler.
Also be nice if they have the skull space ship thingie they had. I think a updated LOD would be great.
I just dont want Bats saying
Luthor, Justice will over trumpit over evil, and the JL will always win over the LOD.
Yeah thsos saysings were corney.
Knight
07-17-2005, 01:47 PM
I like the idea. They had the Injustice Gang, Then the Secret Society (which was arguably the most succesful villain team) now the Legion of Doom which will have the best of both worlds I imagine. Luthor and Grodd plus about 24 other villains equals big trouble for even the supersize League.
As far as members
Luthor
Grodd
Shade (he's been a member of every big time villain team so he's a must)
Cheetah
Giganta
Bizzaro
Sinestro
Star Sapphire
Mirror Master
Block Buster
I dont know who else but I would like to think they could squezze atleast one minor Batman villain into the fold but who is the question.
Is the group actually going to be called "the Legion of Doom"? That sounds a little corny for my tastes. Maybe they'll simplify the name to the more sinister sounding "the Legion," that would be cool, or something along those lines. They did a similar thing when naming "the Secret Society," which was much better than the comic book name "the Secret Society of Supervillians."
But whatever the name, this sounds awesome!:D Grodd, yay! I've missed him.
By the way, wasn't it rumored some time ago that a villian called "Firestorm" (or some such thing), was appearing in an epsiode with Luthor and Grodd? If so, we could add him (her?) to the list.
Joker1238
07-17-2005, 01:53 PM
I dont want the name change. Legion of Doom is ONE of the coolness names of super villians teams ever , If not the best name. Keep the name. Changing it, will relly break my heart, I mean you cant have the LOD with out the team not name the LOD.
Would like to see if they can Steal the Joker in there. I can hope lol. Yeah thinking about it, Shade has been in evey Super Villian team.
Kid Eternity
07-17-2005, 01:53 PM
I like the idea. They had the Injustice Gang, Then the Secret Society (which was arguably the most succesful villain team) now the Legion of Doom which will have the best of both worlds I imagine. Luthor and Grodd plus about 24 other villains equals big trouble for even the supersize League.
As far as members
Luthor
Grodd
Shade (he's been a member of every big time villain team so he's a must)
Cheetah
Giganta
Bizzaro
Sinestro
Star Sapphire
Mirror Master
Block Buster
I dont know who else but I would like to think they could squezze atleast one minor Batman villain into the fold but who is the question.
In the comics, Block Buster was Batman's villian so I guess he would count. I would like to see Croc on this team. I wonder if "The Batman" show has any plans to use him?
On another note, I heard Heatwave (an old Flash villian) will be a member of the team.
Joker1238
07-17-2005, 01:55 PM
Any news on Captain Cold,???? I think he should be on the team, and how about Black Manta, all this time, and we dont have one showing of Black Manta.
Knight
07-17-2005, 02:04 PM
I dont want the name change. Legion of Doom is ONE of the coolness names of super villians teams ever , If not the best name. Keep the name. Changing it, will relly break my heart, I mean you cant have the LOD with out the team not name the LOD.
I can see Luthor now
Luthor: What is this?
Grodd: A legion of doom for The Justice League.
Im sure something like that will happen . Im sure they will drop the team name in a creative way.
In the comics, Block Buster was Batman's villian so I guess he would count. I would like to see Croc on this team. I wonder if "The Batman" show has any plans to use him?
On another note, I heard Heatwave (an old Flash villian) will be a member of the team.
Heatwave will most likely be a member I forgot about him and you are right technically Blockbuster is a Batman villain.
Southern Dandy
07-17-2005, 02:10 PM
I really REALLY hope this means the return of The Riddler. He was horribly underused in The New Batman Adventures, and even in the original Batman Animated Series was not in as many episodes as I would have liked. It would be cool if this Legion Of Doom was like a villian version of Justice League Unlimited, where different villains are featured every week, and there is a main few.
swarlock
07-17-2005, 02:25 PM
Legion Of Doom fits perfectly for the villians. And corny is always good. You can't take all of this seriously.
Knight
07-17-2005, 02:26 PM
I really REALLY hope this means the return of The Riddler. He was horribly underused in The New Batman Adventures, and even in the original Batman Animated Series was not in as many episodes as I would have liked. It would be cool if this Legion Of Doom was like a villian version of Justice League Unlimited, where different villains are featured every week, and there is a main few.
Since their is a major Bat embargo Thr Riddler is almost certainly off limits.You can counton anyone who is on "The Batman" not being on this show.
Tim Thomason
07-17-2005, 04:27 PM
Classic Legion of Doom Members According to Wikipedia:
Bizarro- no reason why he couldn't join, he's already back from Bizarro World, and he was last seen trying to free Grodd from prison.
Black Manta- Classic Aquaman villain who has never appeared in the DCAU. Good reason to include him.
Brainiac- They might want to lay off the Brainiac for a while. Luthor might have a problem having him on his team. Plus he's supposedly destroyed.
Captain Cold- Only appeared in Flash's commercial in Eclipsed, with the already appeared Captain Boomerang, and the soon-to-appear Heatwave. No reason to have him not be one of the background members.
Cheetah- Already a prior member of the Injustice Gang, she should have a membership.
Giganta- Loyal Grodd follower. Say no more. One of the most recognizable Legion members.
Gorilla Grodd- Already confirmed member.
Lex Luthor- Already confirmed member.
The Riddler- Probably not. Bat-embargo and all. Appears on The Batman every once in a while.
The Scarecrow- Ditto. Although with the movie already premiered, I don't know who gets to use him now.
Sinestro- Used to work for Grodd (The Secret Society). Be a pretty good addition to the team.
Solomon Grundy- Probably not. Died too many times to be a viable candidate for membership.
Toyman- Really would like to see if he takes off the Doll mask, and puts on the Jester outfit. Then he would be another recognizable member.
Also, Heatwave is confirmed to be a member of the Legion, even though he was never in the original.
Joker1238
07-17-2005, 04:34 PM
Has Black Manta Change a lot since the 1970s?? in looks and all?? Just wondering. I think Black Manta is the best Aquaman villian ever, Some one needs to beg at Bruce Timm's legs and ask to include such a cool villian.
Yes I want Robot voice and all lol.
Temple Fugate
07-17-2005, 04:41 PM
If they pull off a modern Challenge of the Superfriends story with actual drama and a small but not overpowering dose of camp, I will treasure the next 13 episodes forever.
We're going from a season of intellectual suspense and invisible lines between good and evil to a straight-up superpowered smack-down, and I am NOT complaining. Go figure.
Bruce Kent
07-17-2005, 05:25 PM
Well I know these are confirmed from people who went to Comic Con:
Grodd & Luthor
The Key
Sinestro
Star Sapphire
Toyman
Cheetah
Metallo
Atomic Skull
Also, Dark Lantern said a long time ago that Black manta would appear. so I bet he's in.
LeatherWings
07-17-2005, 05:30 PM
Uh here's a pic of what might be some members of the LoD, its not confirmed, but it says JLU, and not JL, and it has Joker, I'm pretty sure its not photo-shopped as well:
http://69.93.119.2/photosSHTC/showphoto.php?photo=6134&cat=897
Also yeah I'd really loveto see Scarecrow and Riddler again. And I have a feeling WB is slowly starting to lift the Embargo.
slackermonkey
07-17-2005, 05:34 PM
These guys are already confirmed:
Lex Luthor
Gorilla Grodd
Heatwave
Sinestro
Star Sapphire
Evil Star
Copperhead
Mirror Master
Bizarro
Atomic Skull
Dr. Destiny
Toyman
Metallo
Cheetah
The Key
We've got at least 11 members uncalled for.
Any major Batman villains are out, but they'll probably pull a Plastic Man and say that they're members, we just won't see them onscreen.
I'd rule out Brainiac, even though he was part of the Superfriends era Legion of Doom, because (a) he's not a team player and (b) he's been overused as it is.
Same goes for Solomon Grundy, who's dead and according to the producers is staying dead. Since Grundy's on The Batman, he'd probably be off-limits even if they wanted to bring him back again.
Giganta's pretty much a given, because of her connection to Grodd in this continuity, and she was a member of the classic version of the Legion of Doom.
The Shade is a possibility, but his last appearance as part of the Secret Society implies that he wouldn't want to join yet another supervillain team (already being part of three previously failed attempts).
Killer Frost seems fairly likely. I'd bet on seeing Parasite or Livewire, or both. Deadshot, Clock King and Captain Boomerang I'd guess are in as well. We may even see those other two or three villains the League was fighting at the beginning of "Kid Stuff."
Darkseid is unlikely, unless he's the puppet master. Otherwise, he wouldn't care less about what these guys are up to unless it interferes with his own agenda. He may be dead after "Twilight," anyway.
Amazo I'd say is equally unlikely, especially since I don't think he's even a villain anymore. He's too powerful compared to the others (in a battle between the JLU and LOD, he'd beat the entire League in about five seconds, rendering the other LOD members redundant) and potentially dangerous for the Legion to risk allying themselves with.
Of the 'big gun' villains, Vandal Savage is the only one I can see being a possibility, but he could really go either way.
edit: Good to know I was dead on about Giganta, Parasite, Livewire, Clock King and who I think were KGBeast and Blockbuster. I'm surprised the other two remaining members of Task Force X didn't make it in, same with Killer Frost.
Bruce Kent
07-17-2005, 05:46 PM
Where was Dr. Destiny confirmed?
Joker1238
07-17-2005, 05:47 PM
Ok I like the Joker as the next guy, BUT if they CAN used the Joker, I would not.
Sure he was cool in the injustice gang. But him in the LOD???? Lex and Joker had a falling out if I recall. And would Grodd and Lex and others well Trust the Joker????? The guy may be crazy, But I would not want Joker on my Supervillian team, You never know if he kill other member if he got anger at him.
If Joker can be used, I guess Timm would bring him in, But on the LOD??? What help is he when he has that fire guy or others on the team. Just my thoughts.
Rosert Gnimhar*
07-17-2005, 05:48 PM
Ahh, that is a pretty spoilerific title don't you think? I'm not sure why you used the "?" either, since you pretty much state that its confirmed anyway in your first post.
Mind you I already knew about this, but I'm just saying, there are some people out there that don't like to inadvertently find out about this sorta thing.
Perhaps a mod can tweak it abit.
As for the LoD...I'm still abit iffy about the whole thing. I mean its a nice idea...but a whole season? But ofcourse the team will pull it off. So no worries!:D
Peace out!;)
RG*:knd1:
Douglas Fir
07-17-2005, 05:49 PM
Uh here's a pic of what might be some members of the LoD, its not confirmed, but it says JLU, and not JL, and it has Joker, I'm pretty sure its not photo-shopped as well:
http://69.93.119.2/photosSHTC/showphoto.php?photo=6134&cat=897
Also yeah I'd really loveto see Scarecrow and Riddler again. And I have a feeling WB is slowly starting to lift the Embargo.
I agree that picture does not look photoshopped - so we can safely assume The Joker is in too...
This is too cool I've had real fun watching SuperFriends on DVD as I never saw them growing up (I'm not sure if they ever aired in the UK back in the day)... but I can't wait to see the DCAU Legion of Doom.
Also I read that the Legion of Super-Heroes will be appearing next season too... I'll try and get the article for you guys!
Bruce Kent
07-17-2005, 05:51 PM
That picture is a promo image, like the one from Season 2, which had Morgaine Le faye and she never appeared.
That is definitely not the LoD. manhunters, Mongul, AMAZO.. I don't think so.
Hockey Mask
07-17-2005, 05:56 PM
Since they're being 'broken up', two things:
Will we get Justice league: Europe and Justice League: Antartica etc..?
Do we get a name change? Sounds like a good time to drop the 'Unlimited' and maybe go with 'Justice League - Challenge'.
theplasticone
07-17-2005, 06:04 PM
How about Task Force X? What will happen to them now that Cadmus is gone/useless? It might be kinda cool to see them (or just the three remaining criminal members) with the LoD.
Knight
07-17-2005, 06:12 PM
How about Task Force X? What will happen to them now that Cadmus is gone/useless? It might be kinda cool to see them (or just the three remaining criminal members) with the LoD. Task Force X takes on all kinds of Suicide missions not just ones that involve the JL. They arent letting any of the criminals on that team out of their 5 years of service.
Heh heh, I just had a thought about how they could introduce Luthor, and by extension the audience, to the LOD. Picture this:
After Luthor is pulled through the wall, he here's a voice behind him.
Grodd: Glad you could make it.
Luthor turns around to see Grodd and an assortment of villians with him.
Luthor: And were am I exactly?
Grodd: Among friends.
Luthor examines the place he finds himself to see an even wider array of villians. Cut to opening credits.
Oh the irony, eh?;) But given their track record, I doubt they'd do anything that obvious, the end of this season is proof enough of that.
Bruce Kent
07-17-2005, 07:13 PM
I was thinking that a possible Bat Villain we could see who i don't see appearing in The Batman is Talia.
J-Ranger
07-17-2005, 07:36 PM
I was thinking that a possible Bat Villain we could see who i don't see appearing in The Batman is Talia.Or Sewer King, Maxius Zeus, Ubuu, Invisible man, Clock King (again, which would be cool) and possibly Two-Face since there is still no report of him appearing on The Batman
LeatherWings
07-17-2005, 07:38 PM
I really hope they can snag Scarecrow before The Batman does, *prays*. Maybe Timm could get Nolan or some guy from Begins to say how cool Scarecrow is and how he'd love to see him in the LoD, yeah I know there's no chance that'll happen, but I'd really love to see Scarecrow again, after seeing him in Begins, and I do NOT want to see him on The Batman, after what they did to Riddler, I wouldn't be surprised as to what they think of for him. Hopefully we get to see him again, and I can not live without hearing Mark Hamill's newest Joker laugh,sadlyI fear Wild Cards might be his last laugh.
Joker1238
07-17-2005, 07:52 PM
I thought Hamill's showing on Static Shock was his last laugh??? Am I right??
theplasticone
07-17-2005, 08:00 PM
I really hope they can snag Scarecrow before The Batman does, *prays*. Maybe Timm could get Nolan or some guy from Begins to say how cool Scarecrow is and how he'd love to see him in the LoD, yeah I know there's no chance that'll happen, but I'd really love to see Scarecrow again, after seeing him in Begins, and I do NOT want to see him on The Batman, after what they did to Riddler, I wouldn't be surprised as to what they think of for him. Hopefully we get to see him again, and I can not live without hearing Mark Hamill's newest Joker laugh,sadlyI fear Wild Cards might be his last laugh.
Hopefully the unwritten Embargo doesn't extend to the movies...
All-Star 1.5
07-17-2005, 08:03 PM
I thought Hamill's showing on Static Shock was his last laugh??? Am I right??
No, your forgetting Injustice For All which came after the SS episode.
Style
07-17-2005, 08:23 PM
About Brainiac: I was thinking, his encounter with Luthor, (merged with him) may have permanently changed Brainiac, so that he may not want to immediatly pick back up on his goal of digitizing and destroying the Universe, and may be apt to join the Legion.
LeatherWings
07-17-2005, 08:31 PM
About Joker, being in the Legion, what if, he was in it, and he ends up destroying it in the endm, sorry I lost my full detailed plot.
Style
07-17-2005, 08:34 PM
About Joker, being in the Legion, what if, he was in it, and he ends up destroying it in the endm, sorry I lost my full detailed plot. I honestly don't think Joker is going to show up in JLU. If you look at that poster, there's a lot of first and second season villains, and Luthor appears in his Supersuit, which he hasn't used in a long time. Shoot, it's even got Silver Amazo on there as a villain. I honestly think it's just an old banner spruced up with the new Logo, (And I'm sure that WB and BT are a little embarassed, suggesting joker was coming, when he's not.)
For those keen on the Scarecrow being a Legion member, who do you think should be cast as the voice? I thought the most recent actor to play him, Jeffrey Combs in TNBA, was great in the role, but if (and its a big if) Scarecrow is on JLU Combs claim to the part could be jepordized by his role as the Question, and the fact that the voice he providied for both characters was pretty well one and the same. Should they ignore this and keep Combs? Should they bring back the BTAS voice, Henry Polic II? Or should they re-cast?
dtemplar
07-17-2005, 09:28 PM
Captain Cold- Only appeared in Flash's commercial in Eclipsed, with the already appeared Captain Boomerang, and the soon-to-appear Heatwave. No reason to have him not be one of the background members.
Captain Cold was NOT in Eclipsed, it was Mirror Master.
GreenArrowsman
07-17-2005, 09:29 PM
I know its been a while since i logged in but I got to chime in on this issue. As much as I am a fan of the Joker and Mark Hamil (love that laugh by the way), I'm not sure how the Joker is going to be apart of this team.
Going from what I saw in Divided We Fall, Batman says he had to leave to head back to Gotham for an emergancy. Now, I know this is not confirmed but my gut feeling says he's on his way to help Batgirl search for Tim Drake and this of course leads to Joker's demise.
Under that assumption, how can the Joker be in the LOD?
LeatherWings
07-17-2005, 09:46 PM
He said it was an emergency I don't recall that?:confused:
Either way, we gotta have a Bats villian in it. Plus there is a small chance Nightwing will show up, since the Outsiders are suppost to show up next season. I really want Nigtwing, come on, just once.
Oh and I think either of thsoe guys could redo Scarecorw, doesn't bug me. Come on though, can't I get my hope ups, I mean even if the chaces are small that we get a Bat character in season 2 besides Bats himself, I can dream can't I, besides if anyone can do it Timm can, we believe in you. I mean we got Clock King and Deadshot this season, there is some possibillity Scarecrow goes to JLU instead of The Batman. I mean I won't get disspointed no matter what happens next season(as longas Bats isn't knocked off, like some thought would happen after this season) JLU is all I got to live for, besides TT, but TT was never as good as JLU. And yes I read comics, but JLU has a slight edge over some of the DC Comics,(I mean DCAU Bats is the best, come on)
Okay I'm done, but is there a like what you want in season 5 thread, or anything, one that ignores the Bat Embargo, cuz I know there's a small chance of additional Bat characters, but I can dream.
enigmatic_one
07-17-2005, 10:02 PM
Going from what I saw in Divided We Fall, Batman says he had to leave to head back to Gotham for an emergancy. Now, I know this is not confirmed but my gut feeling says he's on his way to help Batgirl search for Tim Drake and this of course leads to Joker's demise.
Under that assumption, how can the Joker be in the LOD?
I sincerely doubt that Batman would have acted so chummy with Wonder Woman, or be there at all for that matter if it was something as important as finding Tim Drake. I like to think that Tim's kidnaping and torture took place between TNBA and JL myself since he appears the same age in RotJ as he is in TNBA. Timelines are incredibley hard to speculate on, however, so this is all conjecture (and pointless conjecture, really, as it seems that Tim cannot be mentioned again in DCAU).
~Enigmatic One
Bruce Kent
07-17-2005, 10:05 PM
Nick Kal over at Animation Insider said that from a PM convo McDuffie said ROTJ hadn't happened yet. Meaning oit happens after Cadmus. So...
Kid Eternity
07-17-2005, 10:17 PM
Has Black Manta Change a lot since the 1970s?? in looks and all?? Just wondering. I think Black Manta is the best Aquaman villian ever, Some one needs to beg at Bruce Timm's legs and ask to include such a cool villian.
Yes I want Robot voice and all lol.
In the comics Black Manta made a deal with Neron to possess superhuman powers in exchange for his soul. He got the powers but he ended up transformed to a humanoid version of a manta. Anyhow, I prefer Black Manta as a non-powered supervillian with weaponry.
Another detail I recall is Black Manta was revealed to be a Black Man who's plans were to takeover Atlantis and convert it into an undersea kingdom for oppressed people of the surface world.
Not sure what characterization BT and McDuffie will use, but my guess is they'll go with the Black Manta that's a modern day pirate who plunders ships of their cargo.
enigmatic_one
07-17-2005, 10:25 PM
Nick Kal over at Animation Insider said that from a PM convo McDuffie said ROTJ hadn't happened yet. Meaning oit happens after Cadmus. So...
Ah, sorry. I hadn't heard that. I guess that means Tim Drake falls into the realm of those sorted cartoon caracters who never grow up. Curse you peanuts time!
~Enigmatic One
Onerois
07-17-2005, 10:25 PM
I honestly don't think Joker is going to show up in JLU. If you look at that poster, there's a lot of first and second season villains, and Luthor appears in his Supersuit, which he hasn't used in a long time. Shoot, it's even got Silver Amazo on there as a villain. I honestly think it's just an old banner spruced up with the new Logo, (And I'm sure that WB and BT are a little embarassed, suggesting joker was coming, when he's not.)
My theory for this promo art was that it could possibly be what new figures we could expect in the JLU toy line (which would make since that it didn't have to follow the "Bat-Embargo", thus we could get the Joker). This art could be the new packaging for the single-carded villains also. This is just speculation, however.
The Penguin
07-18-2005, 12:25 AM
I sincerely doubt that Batman would have acted so chummy with Wonder Woman, or be there at all for that matter if it was something as important as finding Tim Drake. I like to think that Tim's kidnaping and torture took place between TNBA and JL myself since he appears the same age in RotJ as he is in TNBA. Timelines are incredibley hard to speculate on, however, so this is all conjecture (and pointless conjecture, really, as it seems that Tim cannot be mentioned again in DCAU).What about the fact that The Joker is still alive? It'd be more believable for Tim to not age (actually somewhat typical) than his being held prisoner all this time or there being two Jokers.
Joe Tully
07-18-2005, 12:26 AM
My main question is how will it work? Why would all of these villains team up? They are generally selfish and teaming are generally temporary for a good reason. The members want what's good for themselves, not the team, and will definitely be prone to argument. Even if they all want to kill the league (some of them might not even care about revenge as opposed to stealing cash or taking over the world for themselves rather than a group) how would they possibly meet and discuss things regularly without killing each other?
PeterFries
07-18-2005, 02:14 AM
The guys at Actionfigureinsider (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/sdcc2005/mattel.shtml) think they've identified most of the 29 members shown in that SDCC clip...
Lex Luthor
Gorilla Grodd
The Key
Dr. Destiny
Evil Star
Cheetah
Black Manta
Bizarro
Parasite
Giganta
Unknown character in green and yellow
Silver Banshee
Kanjar Ro
Blockbuster
Dr. Polaris
Unknown-possibly Captain Atom?!?
Livewire
Clock King
KGBeast
Sinestro
Gentleman Ghost
Copperhead
Black Mass
ToyMan
Metallo
Star Sapphire
Rampage
I think the yellow and green unknown was probably Mirror Master. The biggest surprises here are Clock King (how'd he get loose from Task Force X?) , Gentleman Ghost and Kanjar Ro. Man, I want a Kanjar Ro action figure.
I'm not totally convinced this is the complete lineup -- I'm betting that the membership is not limited, just like the JLU. That way, all kinds of villains can have walkons and cameos.
Style
07-18-2005, 02:20 AM
He said it was an emergency I don't recall that?:confused: He didn't say emergency. He said he had "Buisness in Gotham." Not "important buisness," not "Emergency," just buisness.
So, I'm sure it was just run of the mill "someone's robbing the bank" buisness. Not "Return of the Joker." Fans should stop trying to look for it. If BT ever got to a point where he decided that an episode or episodes were happening at the sametime as the "ROTJ" flashbacks, he'd let us know, somehow. And I don't think he'll ever get to that point, because there's honestly no more they can do with that story without diminishing it.
slackermonkey
07-18-2005, 05:21 AM
The guys at Actionfigureinsider (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/sdcc2005/mattel.shtml) think they've identified most of the 29 members shown in that SDCC clip...
Lex Luthor
Gorilla Grodd
The Key
Dr. Destiny
Evil Star
Cheetah
Black Manta
Bizarro
Parasite
Giganta
Unknown character in green and yellow
Silver Banshee
Kanjar Ro
Blockbuster
Dr. Polaris
Unknown-possibly Captain Atom?!?
Livewire
Clock King
KGBeast
Sinestro
Gentleman Ghost
Copperhead
Black Mass
ToyMan
Metallo
Star Sapphire
Rampage
I think the yellow and green unknown was probably Mirror Master. The biggest surprises here are Clock King (how'd he get loose from Task Force X?) , Gentleman Ghost and Kanjar Ro. Man, I want a Kanjar Ro action figure.
I'm not totally convinced this is the complete lineup -- I'm betting that the membership is not limited, just like the JLU. That way, all kinds of villains can have walkons and cameos.Dude, if that's true, I totally called Parasite, Livewire, Clock King, KGBeast and Blockbuster.
JLU Dude
07-18-2005, 06:58 AM
The guys at Actionfigureinsider (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/sdcc2005/mattel.shtml) think they've identified most of the 29 members shown in that SDCC clip...
Lex Luthor
Gorilla Grodd
The Key
Dr. Destiny
Evil Star
Cheetah
Black Manta
Bizarro
Parasite
Giganta
Unknown character in green and yellow
Silver Banshee
Kanjar Ro
Blockbuster
Dr. Polaris
Unknown-possibly Captain Atom?!?
Livewire
Clock King
KGBeast
Sinestro
Gentleman Ghost
Copperhead
Black Mass
ToyMan
Metallo
Star Sapphire
Rampage
I think the yellow and green unknown was probably Mirror Master. The biggest surprises here are Clock King (how'd he get loose from Task Force X?) , Gentleman Ghost and Kanjar Ro. Man, I want a Kanjar Ro action figure.
I'm not totally convinced this is the complete lineup -- I'm betting that the membership is not limited, just like the JLU. That way, all kinds of villains can have walkons and cameos.
They could mean Mirror Master and Major Force. Anyway, I hope if that pic is true that the Bat-Embargo is lifted and they can use the Joker again, but alas I doubt it. Anyway, this looks interesting.
Knight
07-18-2005, 07:21 AM
I think people need to accept the fact that bat embargo isnt going to get lifted for the JLU as long as The Batman is on the air. No Joker, Scarecrow, Riddler or any of the major bat villains. Thats pretty much a given I would think. So none of them will be members of the LOD.
Onerois
07-18-2005, 07:26 AM
I think people need to accept the fact that bat embargo isnt going to get lifted for the JLU as long as The Batman is on the air. No Joker, Scarecrow, Riddler or any of the major bat villains. Thats pretty much a given I would think. So none of them will be members of the LOD.
Isn't there at least a chance that Scarecrow could be on JLU? If he initially wasn't listed in the "Bat-Embargo" couldn't the JLU creative team yell "dibs!"?
Or can The Batman creative team flip through the Bat-books like kids in a candy store and say, "I want him and him and him...", thus overriding the JLU team's claims?
Karkull
07-18-2005, 10:30 AM
Okay...as soon as my computer is back up and running I'm writing an editorial about the Bat-Embargo to answer questions once and for all.
A Captain Atom-ish guy may very well be Major Force, and a "yellow-and-green" guy may be Mirror Master, but what if it could be Angle Man, an old Wonder Woman villain? I guess it depends on how the yellow and green are arranged on the suit.
Arrakhat
07-18-2005, 11:33 AM
Too bad we won't have Capt. Boomerang and Capt. Cold. Superman would have a field day.
At least we know why we're getting a Mirror Master figure now, right? And for all of you who want Batman rogues, at least we've got Clock King, Blockbuster and KGBeast.
Onerois
07-18-2005, 11:53 AM
Maybe, I'm mistaken but wasn't the Legion of Doom supposed to be the mirror of JLU? Thus, we have a recognizable 29 member roster, but we could expect many more villains to possibly make cameos as members.
Joker1238
07-18-2005, 01:14 PM
But Clock King is not relly a Batman villian, He more of Green Arrow if I recall.
The other 2 are nightwings enemys in his own comic.
Karkull
07-18-2005, 01:22 PM
The other 2 are nightwings enemys in his own comic.But Blockbuster and KGBeast got their starts as Batman villains.
For those of you who are interested, I put up a history of DC's supervillain teams a few years ago. It's a little out of date, but it holds up fairly well. Here's the link (http://jl.toonzone.net/a1/a1.htm), and let the speculation continue.
Tim Thomason
07-18-2005, 01:45 PM
Captain Cold was NOT in Eclipsed, it was Mirror Master.
Yeah, I was confused. I haven't seen that clip in a while, and I remembered there was three people, and I knew two of them for sure. So, it appears now that Mirror Master might appear, but not Captain Cold. That doesn't rule him out though. If they're trying to mirror the JLU, they still need an cold villain to go after Ice.
SuperChicken
07-18-2005, 01:49 PM
I can see Luthor now
Luthor: What is this?
Grodd: A legion of doom for The Justice League.
Im sure something like that will happen . Im sure they will drop the team name in a creative way.
Didn't read the rest of the thread cause I am nothing if not lazy - sorry if it got covered but:
From what I understand, Legion of Doom is a verboten term. DC/WB don't like it, even though the guys on the show do. I think it's a rights issue, mostly. (even though Hanna Barbara actually owns the rights and WB owns HB, there is friction or something)
Thats what I heard at least from some people....... :sad:
Knight
07-18-2005, 02:03 PM
Didn't read the rest of the thread cause I am nothing if not lazy - sorry if it got covered but:
From what I understand, Legion of Doom is a verboten term. DC/WB don't like it, even though the guys on the show do. I think it's a rights issue, mostly. (even though Hanna Barbara actually owns the rights and WB owns HB, there is friction or something)
Thats what I heard at least from some people....... :sad: That is the first time I have heard anything about them having issues with using the name Legion Of Doom.
(and pointless conjecture, really, as it seems that Tim cannot be mentioned again in DCAU).
~Enigmatic One
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Alex Weitzman
07-18-2005, 05:37 PM
As someone there at the panel, the clip moved pretty quickly, but one of the hovering women characters looked a heck of a lot like Queen Bee.
krazymed
07-18-2005, 05:53 PM
I have no interest in seeing the Legion of Doom. If I did, I'd watch Superfriends again. And I don't want to watch that.
When I stopped watching Justice League at the start, it was because it was unorginal, both in terms of story and art. Superman was cool to watch because the art was different and original. Even Batman Beyond was cool because of the huge Spider-man overtones. It may or may not have been liked, but it was different and original (to a degree). But Justice League, not so. It's why I don't watch the Marvel toons at all. They just do teleplays from the comic books. I'd rather read the comic books. If there are other episodes next season that don't involve the Legion of Doom or Superman, I might check those out. But that's all.
Warhawk
07-18-2005, 06:59 PM
It's nice to see Gentleman Ghost, a Hawkman/Hawkgirl Villian, but I was mainly hoping to see Shadowthief. Oh well, I can't wait to see the Legion of Doom.
Hockey Mask
07-18-2005, 07:04 PM
I have no interest in seeing the Legion of Doom. If I did, I'd watch Superfriends again. And I don't want to watch that.:mad:
Joker1238
07-18-2005, 07:45 PM
I like the ideal, I see lots of good stuff for a season of JL vs LOD. With a more moden feel to it. The only thing that made the old Super Freinds show cool was the LOD. IMO. I mean they alone save that series, They got rid of Wendy and Marvin and the Wonder Twins, and replace that with the best Super Villian team ever form, in comics or TV.
A LOD season is a must imo.
Revelator
07-18-2005, 08:06 PM
Too bad we won't have Capt. Boomerang and Capt. Cold. Superman would have a field day. Absolutely. Forget the Legion of Doom--let's have a season-long arc of Superman kicking the crap out of everyone on earth named Captain.
And for all of you who want Batman rogues, at least we've got Clock King, Blockbuster and KGBeast. And Gentleman Ghost, unless I'm mistaken (Edit: I was--he was originally a Hawkman villain). I'm actually quite excited to see what they'll do with him, and whether he'll be an actual ghost or mere charlatan.
Casey Mack
07-18-2005, 08:13 PM
Absolutely. Forget the Legion of Doom--let's have a season-long arc of Superman kicking the crap out of everyone on earth named Captain.
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if Supes took on Captain Planet that would be a great one.
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Style
07-18-2005, 08:39 PM
Heh heh, I just had a thought about how they could introduce Luthor, and by extension the audience, to the LOD. Picture this:
After Luthor is pulled through the wall, he here's a voice behind him.
Grodd: Glad you could make it.
Luthor turns around to see Grodd and an assortment of villians with him.
Luthor: And were am I exactly?
Grodd: Among friends.
Luthor examines the place he finds himself to see an even wider array of villians. Cut to opening credits.
Oh the irony, eh?;) But given their track record, I doubt they'd do anything that obvious, the end of this season is proof enough of that.Then Luthor looks up at the headquarters and says, "But, I thought they turned this place into the Legion of Dance?"
Isn't there at least a chance that Scarecrow could be on JLU? If he initially wasn't listed in the "Bat-Embargo" couldn't the JLU creative team yell "dibs!"?
Or can The Batman creative team flip through the Bat-books like kids in a candy store and say, "I want him and him and him...", thus overriding the JLU team's claims? I think you have a misconception of what's going on. You're picturing WB like an enigmatic and discriminating father, who gives and withholds treats randomly. And you're picturing the shows like his children, begging for favors. Then you picture The Batman like the spoiled, favorite son, who gets whatever he wants, and JLU as the mistreated stepchild, begging for scraps.
This isn't the case. It's a corporation, and the shows certainly aren't competing with each other for characters. It's all WB who says who anyone can and can't use. So, oneday, WB might make a call to The Batman and say, "okay, you can use Scarecrow if you want." JLU can make an impassioned plea to use him, and it's WB who decides if they can. To sum up: It's all WB's fault JLU can't use some people, not The Batman's.
But if you want to stick with the analogy above, then consider this: JLU gets to use way more characters than the Batman does. JLU gets to use all of DC minus Batman characters. The Batman just gets Batman characters, and they can't even use all of them. JLU is the clear winner here.
Arrakhat
07-18-2005, 09:13 PM
Absolutely. Forget the Legion of Doom--let's have a season-long arc of Superman kicking the crap out of everyone on earth named Captain.
Why not, we all love it? Casey Mack is right, Capt. Planet could show up. Maybe after Supes is through with Captains Planet, Boomerang, and Cold, he could move on to Capt. Crunch, Capt. Kangaroo, Capt. Kirk, Capt. Underpants, and Capt. America (In a marvel/dc crossover).
And so I don't get off track on this topic, who are Evil Star, Black Mass, Rampage, and Dr. Polaris?
Bruce Kent
07-18-2005, 09:43 PM
There are bios for Evil Star and Black Mass at Justice League Resource (http://www.jlresource.com/). Just go to Metabrawlers for Evil Star, who appeared in The Cat and the Canary, and to Various Villains for Black Mass.
Dr. Polaris is a Green Lantern villain who has magnetic powers.
Don't know about the other.
Doomsday
07-18-2005, 09:58 PM
This was said at a different forum. Post it here incase anyone wants to see.
Lex Luthor
Gorilla Grodd
The Key
Dr. Destiny
Evil Star
Cheetah
Black Manta
Bizarro
Parasite
Giganta
Unknown character in green and yellow
Silver Banshee
Kanjar Ro
Blockbuster
Dr. Polaris
Major Force
Livewire
Clock King
KGBeast
Sinestro
Gentleman Ghost
Copperhead
Black Mass
ToyMan
Metallo
Star Sapphire
Rampage
That's a list from Action Figure Insider,
Even though I don't know most of those members from the list, the ones I do see are awesome and can't wait to see what they bring ot the team. And theres still even more members we don't know about.
EDIT: Well I see someone beat me to the punch a whole page back.
Arrakhat
07-18-2005, 10:01 PM
Thanks Bruce Kent, at least now I know a bit more about the LoD. Wasn't the Key a fairly dark character? For a show that couldn't allow a nuclear cannon to cause deaths, wouldn't he be fairly... out of place?
I CAN NOT wait to see Cheetah. Or Grodd. Bring on the greatest villains of the old episodes of JL!
Revelator
07-18-2005, 10:02 PM
Excellent idea Arrakhat, but don't forget Captain Hook and Captain Klink!
Arrakhat
07-18-2005, 10:05 PM
Of course he'll take on Capt. Hook! How could I forget?
Here's to seeing Supes slap Capt. Obvious around for dessert. Cheers.
Joker1238
07-18-2005, 10:08 PM
And Captain Ahab?? From Moby Dick?????? Just thinking of the Captains that will challage Superman.
OH YEAH and CAPTAIN CLOWN.
Onerois
07-18-2005, 11:28 PM
I think you have a misconception of what's going on. You're picturing WB like an enigmatic and discriminating father, who gives and withholds treats randomly. And you're picturing the shows like his children, begging for favors. Then you picture The Batman like the spoiled, favorite son, who gets whatever he wants, and JLU as the mistreated stepchild, begging for scraps.
This isn't the case. It's a corporation, and the shows certainly aren't competing with each other for characters. It's all WB who says who anyone can and can't use. So, oneday, WB might make a call to The Batman and say, "okay, you can use Scarecrow if you want." JLU can make an impassioned plea to use him, and it's WB who decides if they can. To sum up: It's all WB's fault JLU can't use some people, not The Batman's.
But if you want to stick with the analogy above, then consider this: JLU gets to use way more characters than the Batman does. JLU gets to use all of DC minus Batman characters. The Batman just gets Batman characters, and they can't even use all of them. JLU is the clear winner here.
Thanks for the clarification and I recognize the WB is behind this. I just thought that the analogy was humorous.
Personally I think Scarecrow would be good on the LOD, but he has his flaws. IMO, Dr. Destiny is more than a suitable replacement for him. However, his flaw is that he can only get people when they are sleeping. At least, until they give him a certain dreamlord's ruby for power...;)
I love the Riddler, but I'm glad he's not on this team. Seanbaby and others are right about him. All he did on Superfriends was reveal the team's plans to the Superfriends.
Kid Eternity
07-18-2005, 11:38 PM
I can't wait to see Bruce Timm and company's interpretation of the LOD. The Challenge of The Superfriends was one of my favorite cartoons growing up. I hope they find someway to sneak in Black Adam on the team.
Even if we don't get to see Captain Marvel next season, it would be cool to have a Black Adam appearance on the JLU. I see Black Adam giving Superman one helluva beatdown or a near-beatdown.
Alex Weitzman
07-19-2005, 12:18 AM
Excellent idea Arrakhat, but don't forget Captain Hook and Captain Klink!
Don't you mean Colonel Klink?
But don't worry. In his place, there's always this champion of might:
http://www.zzessy.com/images/Caenyr/captainCaveman.jpg
Enemy Ace
07-19-2005, 01:12 AM
Thanks for the clarification and I recognize the WB is behind this. I just thought that the analogy was humorous.
Personally I think Scarecrow would be good on the LOD, but he has his flaws. IMO, Dr. Destiny is more than a suitable replacement for him. However, his flaw is that he can only get people when they are sleeping. At least, until they give him a certain dreamlord's ruby for power...;)
I love the Riddler, but I'm glad he's not on this team. Seanbaby and others are right about him. All he did on Superfriends was reveal the team's plans to the Superfriends.
There's always Phobia. :)
Krypton_Knight
07-19-2005, 02:39 AM
Phobia or Psycho-Pirate could fill the Scarecrow niche.
Though I'd like Circe. And Luminous. But if this arc plays the way I hope it plays - sort of a "Siege of Avengers Mansion" storyline for the DCAU, with lots of interplay and internal politics among the villains - I'll be perfectly happy with the folks we're getting (albeit with the unfortunate but understandable suckage of not having the Riddler aboard for the ride. I guess I'll have to wait for Alex Ross's Justice for that.).
KK
Frank White
07-19-2005, 09:36 AM
Phobia or Psycho-Pirate could fill the Scarecrow niche.
Though I'd like Circe. And Luminous. But if this arc plays the way I hope it plays - sort of a "Siege of Avengers Mansion" storyline for the DCAU, with lots of interplay and internal politics among the villains - I'll be perfectly happy with the folks we're getting (albeit with the unfortunate but understandable suckage of not having the Riddler aboard for the ride. I guess I'll have to wait for Alex Ross's Justice for that.).
KK
I agree...there needs to be a major WW villian involved with this...either Circe or Hades or Ares...and I also think this should be her "season" I always thought Season 1 was GL's to shine, Season 2 was Hawkgirl's Season 3 was sort of like Superman, Batman, and GL and Season 4 was definitely Superman and Flash's...so it's Wonder Woman's turn!:mad: Oh and bring back the Star Sapphire....ASAP!
Toddman
07-19-2005, 10:23 AM
Wasn't the Key a fairly dark character? For a show that couldn't allow a nuclear cannon to cause deaths, wouldn't he be fairly... out of place?
You are obviously familiar w/The Key circa 1997. The Key circa 1965 was a little more... 1965.
Check it out: http://galileo.spaceports.com/~xsufiru/legions/Key.htm
Toddman
I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this, and I'm to lazy to go through them all again, but I think its safe to assume that this represents the begining of a season long story-arc of the JL vs. LD. Should be good.:)
DarkKnight
07-19-2005, 11:46 AM
so...does anybody think the new JL headquaters on earth will look like the watchtower from Batman Beyond's "The Call"? i was hoping for something more like the hall of justice.
Knight
07-19-2005, 12:20 PM
so...does anybody think the new JL headquaters on earth will look like the watchtower from Batman Beyond's "The Call"? i was hoping for something more like the hall of justice.I pray it doesn't look like the Hall Of Justice from superfriends. That was one of the worst looking headquarters ever. Its hard for me to believe people seriously want that as a JL embassy or base. However If they do go that route I hope it is a greatly updated version with a much cooler design because that is what is needed. But really some things just don't need to be incorporated into JLU and the old HOJ is one of them.
bat313
07-19-2005, 01:23 PM
I pray it doesn't look like the Hall Of Justice from superfriends. That was one of the worst looking headquarters ever. Its hard for me to believe people seriously want that as a JL embassy or base. If they do go that route however I hope it is a greatly updated version with a much cooler design is needed. But really some things just don't need to be incorporated into JLU and the old HOJ is one of them.
Plus it already appeared in the Ultimen's episode, or at least to make fun of it.
DarkKnight
07-19-2005, 05:43 PM
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5152/legionofdoomth6jg.jpg
don't know if this has been posted, since they put it up last Friday, but thanks to comics continuum for the pic of the new "Hall of Doom" or whatever it'll be called.
(http://www.***************.com/stories/0507/16/index.htm)
Douglas Fir
07-19-2005, 05:51 PM
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5152/legionofdoomth6jg.jpg
don't know if this has been posted, since they put it up last Friday, but thanks to comics continuum for the pic of the new "Hall of Doom" or whatever it'll be called.
(http://www.***************.com/stories/0507/16/index.htm)
I hope they do a nice nod towards that crocodile (or aligator) that used to appear in the stock Hall of Doom intro that appeared in practically every episode of Challenge!
Arrakhat
07-19-2005, 06:40 PM
You are obviously familiar w/The Key circa 1997. The Key circa 1965 was a little more... 1965.
Check it out: http://galileo.spaceports.com/~xsufiru/legions/Key.htm
Toddman
Thanks Toddman, this makes much more sense. Wonder if they'll use him much... With all these villains appearing, we may get figures of them, right? We already have Mirror master on his way, now for the other obscure villains: KGBeast, Atomic Skull, etc. Does Kanjar Ro really belong here though? He seems more like an alien tool to be used by evil robots (and he's good at it, too).
EmaHalJordan
07-19-2005, 08:56 PM
i want see...
BLACK MANTA
SINESTRO
CAPTAIN COLD
PSICO PIRATA
Dr.Sivana
Penguin
Reedler
Joker
Lex Luthor
Cheeta
Giganta
Toyman
Kanjer Ro
Star Sapphire
Evil Star
Floronic man
Felix Faust
the Key
Grodd
Mirror Master
Kalibak
Mantis
Cooperhead
Dr.Polaris
Sonar
Dr.Light
the legion of doom unlimited :zim:
EmaHalJordan
Road to Gotham
07-20-2005, 05:42 AM
Too Luthor has to be a member.
I am tired of seeing him. :sad:
I would like it if Vandel Savage or Per Degaton were the leader of LoD.
Mister Intensity
07-20-2005, 07:26 AM
I doubt we're going to see Phobia on JLU. But we may see her somewhere else.
Mister Intensity
bobspoland
07-20-2005, 03:07 PM
Don't you mean Colonel Klink?
But don't worry. In his place, there's always this champion of might:
http://www.zzessy.com/images/Caenyr/captainCaveman.jpg
lmao so thats what happen too HG after starcrossed
Vixen
07-20-2005, 06:03 PM
Legion of Doom in the new season?! That sounds really interesting, & I'm looking forward to seeing it. I just hope that Luthor doesn't show up in that butt-ugly outfit he used to wear in Challenge of the Superfriends. But then again, after this season, I'm rather tired of seeing Luthor! But I'm sure the creative team will do a good job of handling these characters, as they've done for the heroes.
Onerois
07-20-2005, 10:03 PM
I'm just wondering who's leading the LOD. I hope it's not Luthor since that would be so cliche. My money's on Grodd.
Yojimbo
07-20-2005, 10:17 PM
I'm just wondering who's leading the LOD. I hope it's not Luthor since that would be so cliche. My money's on Grodd.
I'm thinking since the Legion of Doom is the antithesis of the JLU, there has to some subtle ironic similarities. Since the JLU has no clear cut single leader, I think the same would be for the LOD. For the JLU, Batman and Superman are pretty much the top two; but Superman is the vocalist whereas Batman is the silent motivator and financier. Same with Grodd, since he seems to have quite an efficient knack for organizing villain groups, I would think he fits the same role as Superman as the vocalist and Lex Luthor to Batman.
90'sCartoonMan
07-20-2005, 11:59 PM
Sounds like a good time to drop the 'Unlimited' and maybe go with 'Justice League - Challenge'.
Sounds too Pokemon, but it'd be cool if the episode was called "Challenge of the Justice League" or something. Man, there have been a ton of Super Friends nods...the Wonder Twins statue in "Injustice For All", "Ultimatum" speaks for itself, and that "running towards each other" in "Secret Society". It'll be hard to make something that'll top even those, especially when Brainiac, Riddler, and Scarecrow are out.
Shoot, I'd give half that roster for Captain Cold...I'm DYING to see him. He was actually pretty smart in the Super Friends episode "Invasion of the Fearions". And while I'm talking about Super Friends episodes, I don't get why Riddler gets so much flack. In "The World's Deadliest Game", Riddler was leading them into a trap, he was just having a little fun. And I always thought the first episode of Challenge implied that Riddler killed Gleek.
Man, I hope Aquaman will fight them...I missed him this season.
RAINMAN
07-21-2005, 01:28 AM
I hope shade shows up. He was my favorite from JL. But the one villain I want to see is......THE ZOOOOOOM!:evil:
Metallo
07-21-2005, 01:44 AM
Well I know these are confirmed from people who went to Comic Con:
Grodd & Luthor
The Key
Sinestro
Star Sapphire
Toyman
Cheetah
Metallo
Atomic Skull
Also, Dark Lantern said a long time ago that Black manta would appear. so I bet he's in.
Ok, how exactly are Metallo and Lex Luthor going to get along? I mean, after "The Way of All Flesh" from S:TAS, Metallo wanted to kill Luthor, since it was Luthor's tampering that resulted in Corben winding up becoming the malevolent cyborg Metallo.
slackermonkey
07-21-2005, 02:20 AM
I was thinking the same thing. That'll probably be half the fun. After watching tonight's S:TAS on Boomerang ("Identity Crisis") I was also wondering how Luthor and Bizarro will get along.
Parasite and Livewire is another good example.
Bruce Kent
07-21-2005, 02:43 AM
And of course Luthor and Cheetah. I think it'll just be people will have grudges but they'll coexist because they want to thrive against the League.
Karkull
07-21-2005, 10:09 AM
I have a feeling that the issues between members will be half the fun, but Grodd probably has it down. He's an excellent people person -- which is odd considering that he's not even people -- and the "Legion" has a unifying motivation to stand together: the threat of the Justice League.
My one regret -- well, I wish that the Bat-villains could join in as well -- is that Solomon Grundy is dead. Me not wanted Grundy / Bizarro team-up!
jadzia2000
07-21-2005, 10:38 AM
how about letting reverse flash join the doom? sounds like he received a lot of fan praise for showing up in divded we fall.
Knight
07-21-2005, 10:41 AM
I have a feeling that the issues between members will be half the fun, but Grodd probably has it down. He's an excellent people person -- which is odd considering that he's not even people -- and the "Legion" has a unifying motivation to stand together: the threat of the Justice League.
I agree. If anyone can get everyone to get along it is oddly enough Grodd, who should by all accounts be the overall leader of this team. He is far better at it than anyone else including Luthor.
how about letting reverse flash join the doom? sounds like he received a lot of fan praise for showing up in divded we fall. Well the reverse Flash didnt show up in DWF that was a Brainiac/Luthor created version of what Luthor thought the Justice Lord Flash might look like. The true Reverse Flash aka Professor Zoom has yet to appear but would be a interesting addtion to The Legion.
jadzia2000
07-21-2005, 10:59 AM
If we're not going to see regular appearance by bat villians such as joker, riddler and the penguin. Maybe they'll have a kick-ass all-out anti-bats eppy where all three team up to destroy the caped crusader.
Enemy Ace
07-21-2005, 11:17 AM
Phobia or Psycho-Pirate could fill the Scarecrow niche.
I guess the Legion of Doom will have to continue holding job inteviews for fear-inducing members. According to the preview screen-shots from Comic-con, it looks like Phobia will be a Teen Titan villian starting next season, classic unchanged green costume and all. I'm happy to have an animated Phobia in ether show, though I thought it would be cool if she could interact with Ace from "Wild Cards" given the similarities in powers and origin (both were just born with these powers, just Phobia embraced her's as a child and turned to villiany out of wanting to dominate people and boredom):D
Enemy Ace
07-21-2005, 11:51 AM
You know, maybe this means we can get an updated bumper commercial with the Powerpuff Girls and the Timm version of the Legion of Doom.
C'mon. You know you want to hear Clancey Brown's Luthor say, "Well, there is a 'D' in 'destroy'...as in DESTROY THEM!!!":anime:
90'sCartoonMan
07-22-2005, 12:30 AM
If anyone can get everyone to get along it is oddly enough Grodd, who should by all accounts be the overall leader of this team. He is far better at it than anyone else including Luthor.
I wonder if Luthor would say to Grodd something like "Of all the super intelligent primates I've worked with in villain organizations, you're the best. And I've seen more than you'd think."
Seriously, though, no love for the Ultra-Humanite? Maybe he reformed after "Comfort and Joy".
Kid Eternity
07-22-2005, 08:45 AM
I pray it doesn't look like the Hall Of Justice from superfriends. That was one of the worst looking headquarters ever. Its hard for me to believe people seriously want that as a JL embassy or base. However If they do go that route I hope it is a greatly updated version with a much cooler design because that is what is needed. But really some things just don't need to be incorporated into JLU and the old HOJ is one of them.
I know some of you didn't keep up with the Justice League in the comics, but in their own title there base of operations was in a mountain located in Happy Harbor, Rhode Island. Instead of the Hall of Justice that so many of us are familiar with, I hope Timm and Company use the Mountain HQ for the JLU.
Onerois
07-22-2005, 09:14 AM
We may see some characters like Ultra-Humanite or Shade.
I don't remember where I read it exactly, but I remember hearing this team as being a rotating cast of villains much like the JLU. Thus, we know 29 confirmed members of the team, but more will probably show up in the backgrounds of the episodes.
warmachine04
07-22-2005, 11:46 AM
Can't wait to see this episode. I'm hoping for a big lineup in the Legion of Doom.:evil:
Joker1238
07-22-2005, 12:22 PM
I also want a cool opeing like in the challage of the Super Freinds.
13 Villians from Remote ete
Something like that would be cool.
Enemy Ace
07-22-2005, 10:30 PM
There have better be a Legion of Doom playset in the works.
warmachine04
07-23-2005, 03:31 PM
[QUOTE=Doomsday]
Lex Luthor
Gorilla Grodd
The Key
Dr. Destiny
Evil Star
Cheetah
Black Manta
Bizarro
Parasite
Giganta
Unknown character in green and yellow
Silver Banshee
Kanjar Ro
Blockbuster
Dr. Polaris
Major Force
Livewire
Clock King
KGBeast
Sinestro
Gentleman Ghost
Copperhead
Black Mass
ToyMan
Metallo
Star Sapphire
Rampage
That's a list from Action Figure Insider,
QUOTE]
There are some big names in this list. Lex Luthor, Gorilla Grodd, Sinestro, Dr Destiny, Black Manta, Cheetah and Star Sapphire are some good choices.
I wonder why Kalibak, Killer Frost and Shade weren't included in the list. Still have my doubts on Bizarro. His apearance in JLU was quite uneven. He seems to be a very uneasy choice considering his mental capabilities.
I liked the whole "Among freinds" introduction. Feels corny but still very enjoyable. I hope that the story isn't to predictable or too corny. I liked to see some tension, arguements or at least some conflict between Luthor and Grodd. Both don't seem the type to kindly take orders. :D
Azrael24
07-23-2005, 04:15 PM
since bane is off limits for the batman, why dont they use him for the legions of doom?? im just saying
Apart from Grodd, the villian I'm most looking forward to seeing again is Dr. Destiny, I hope he's a big player in at least one episode. Actually I'd like to see him go up against Dr. Fate, purely for the sake of their names alone.:D
On that subject I do genuinly hope that we see Dr. Fate and Aquaman this season. If Black Manta is indeed a member of the Legion I'm guessing we will see the latter at least once.
Joker1238
07-23-2005, 04:24 PM
So do you guys want Black Manta to have a Robot voice???? Sure you guys may think its cheesy, but I think thats what made Black Manta cool in Super Freinds, Sure he was weak, because he was the rival of Aquaman, and the LOD, were not nice to find water travels like the Super Freinds were to Aquaman.
But that Robot voice, I mean, I think they should bring that in.
As long as he does not say, "We will crush you, you puny Super Freinds".
rhudson765
07-23-2005, 05:03 PM
I like the idea. They had the Injustice Gang, Then the Secret Society (which was arguably the most succesful villain team) now the Legion of Doom which will have the best of both worlds I imagine. Luthor and Grodd plus about 24 other villains equals big trouble for even the supersize League.
As far as members
Luthor
Grodd
Shade (he's been a member of every big time villain team so he's a must)
.
Why? Who is this guy? Why does someone with such corny powers end up fighting alongside the big guns like Luthoo, Sinestro, The Joker.
Plus I wish that Warner Bros would lift that stupid enbargo and let the One True Clown Prince take his rightful place in the Legion of Doom. Kids can tell him apart from that inferior hack on "The Batman".
Batman Fan
07-23-2005, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Azrael24
since bane is off limits for the batman, why dont they use him for the legions of doom?? im just saying
Bane's off limits to The Batman?!? When did this happen?:confused:
Azrael24
07-23-2005, 07:30 PM
well, hes not exactly off limits to the batman, but kids wb think hes too violent :shrug:. thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard but what can one do??
Joker1238
07-23-2005, 07:33 PM
well, hes not exactly off limits to the batman, but kids wb think hes too violent :shrug:. thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard but what can one do??
What are they Suppose to do??? Have Bane give Batman flowers???
thanos28542
07-24-2005, 01:41 AM
What are you guys talking about!? Bane appeared in the 3rd episode of "the Batman" titled "Traction" if I'm not mistaken. He just didn't look anything like BTAS/TNBA Bane that we all know & love. He just looked like a big red hulking monster.
thanos28542
07-24-2005, 01:46 AM
What are you guys talking about with this so called Ban on Bane in "The Batman", when he apeared in episode 3 titled "Traction". His new look sucked as he looked totaly different from the BTAS/TNBA version of Bane.
thanos28542
07-24-2005, 01:47 AM
Sorry I double posted by mistake!:)
Dorko
07-25-2005, 08:31 PM
What are you guys talking about with this so called Ban on Bane in "The Batman", when he apeared in episode 3 titled "Traction". His new look sucked as he looked totaly different from the BTAS/TNBA version of Bane.He appeared once, but perhaps WB dosen't want him to appear again.
Yojimbo
07-26-2005, 09:12 PM
He appeared once, but perhaps WB dosen't want him to appear again.Well the LOD is using KGBeast supposedly, so it doesn't look likely that they'd add Bane and cause a character similarity overlap. Like Mr. Timm said at SDCC, there's a whole legion of characters to use outside of the Batman mythos.
theplasticone
07-26-2005, 10:16 PM
Interesting scenario for the naming of the Legion. Lex has just been pulled through a wall and introduced to "The Legion of Doom".
Lex: "That has got to be the stupidest name-" (scroll credits)
Temple Fugate
07-27-2005, 01:02 AM
Interesting scenario for the naming of the Legion. Lex has just been pulled through a wall and introduced to "The Legion of Doom".
Lex: "That has got to be the stupidest name-" (scroll credits)Luthor: What kind of name is that? It hardly strikes morbid fear in the hearts of our enemies.
Grodd: Well, it fits. I mean, most of us have nothing better to do than fight each other in "Doom 3" all day.
Luthor: OOOH! (runs to nearest PC, pushing Copperhead out of the way, and within seconds hacks a virus into the game that gives him the high score)
Legion of Doom members: Aw, man!
Grodd: I knew I was going to regret breaking him out of prison...
Yojimbo
07-27-2005, 11:01 PM
So do you guys want Black Manta to have a Robot voice???? Sure you guys may think its cheesy, but I think thats what made Black Manta cool in Super Freinds, Sure he was weak, because he was the rival of Aquaman, and the LOD, were not nice to find water travels like the Super Freinds were to Aquaman.
But that Robot voice, I mean, I think they should bring that in.
As long as he does not say, "We will crush you, you puny Super Freinds".
I would want it to be more raspy, Darth Vader-ish. I definitely do not want it the voice to follow in the line of Juice and Mantis. And I hope this JLU version doesn't turn out to be just Orm in a suit that sustains his life after taking that fall on "the enemy below".
Kid Eternity
07-28-2005, 06:23 PM
I would want it to be more raspy, Darth Vader-ish. I definitely do not want it the voice to follow in the line of Juice and Mantis. And I hope this JLU version doesn't turn out to be just Orm in a suit that sustains his life after taking that fall on "the enemy below".
I think Orm should comeback as the Ocean Master.
Yojimbo
07-28-2005, 08:59 PM
I think Orm should comeback as the Ocean Master.
The only reason I made that statement back there was way back on these forums, Mr. Timm commented he never liked the 'Ocean Master' name. Just something to think about. It could just mean if he comes back he will be 'Orm'.
batmanbeyond13
08-04-2005, 05:35 PM
We're down to 13 episodes. So, I wonder what the finale will lokk like with so many villains and heroes. We could be seeing a super war ahead of us like Alex Ross' Justice comic book. How many parts for the finale?
Yojimbo
08-04-2005, 10:29 PM
We're down to 13 episodes. So, I wonder what the finale will lokk like with so many villains and heroes. We could be seeing a super war ahead of us like Alex Ross' Justice comic book. How many parts for the finale?
At the San Diego Comic Con, the staff commented that the Legion of Doom appear throughout the season, indirectly and directly.
According to some unofficial news, the season finale supposedly involves the New Gods and the Source Wall so for now it doesn't appear that the season finale will involve the LOD.
Revelator
08-05-2005, 12:07 AM
so for now it doesn't appear that the season finale will involve the LOD.
Unless they decide on making an unholy pact with a certain craggy-faced despot...
We can only dream. Or speculate.
Wizard
08-05-2005, 02:17 AM
Depending how much the LoD has in common with the SSoSV, the finale may well involve them in a big way.
At the San Diego Comic Con, the staff commented that the Legion of Doom appear throughout the season, indirectly and directly.
According to some unofficial news, the season finale supposedly involves the New Gods and the Source Wall so for now it doesn't appear that the season finale will involve the LOD.
Hmmm, that sounds interesting and really cool, we'll have to see if it pans out. But I see no reason why it needs to be independant of the LOD.
Apparently in the comics the secret patron of "The Secret Society of Supervillians" was a prominent evil figure from the "fourth world," maybe he will turn out to be the secret patron of the DCAU LOD?
But on the other hand, as cool as that may sound it would be somewhat repetitive, as they just completed a story-arc that featured the surprise involvment of a MIA villian with an agenda all his own.
Ah well, if they do go that route I'm sure they won't dissappoint.
OH! AWESOME! if this is true about the New Gods and the Source Wall, I think I smell a little of John Byrne's completely perfect ORION series. Crossess fingers...
Lightshade
08-05-2005, 05:26 PM
Jeez there's gonna be a lot of supervillains.I went through all the pages,and this is the list of I got from all the posts.
Luthor
Sinestro
Copperhead
Bizarro
Cheetah
Shade
Giganta
Star Sapphire
Grodd
Major Force
Heatwave
Black Manta
The Key
Toyman
Metallo
Atomic Skull
Evil Star
Mirror Master
Dr. Destiny
Parasite
Silver Banshee
Kanjar Ro
Blockbuster
Dr. Polaris
KGBeast
Gentleman Ghost
Black Mass
Rampage
Livewire
Clock King
So thats thirty members all together. WOO-HOO,MORE CHEETAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Kid Eternity
08-05-2005, 07:34 PM
Jeez there's gonna be a lot of supervillains.I went through all the pages,and this is the list of I got from all the posts.
Luthor
Sinestro
Copperhead
Bizarro
Cheetah
Shade
Giganta
Star Sapphire
Grodd
Firestorm
Heatwave
Black Manta
The Key
Toyman
Metallo
Atomic Skull
Evil Star
Mirror Master
Dr. Destiny
Parasite
Silver Banshee
Kanjar Ro
Blockbuster
Dr. Polaris
KGBeast
Gentleman Ghost
Black Mass
Rampage
Livewire
Clock King
So thats thirty members all together. WOO-HOO,MORE CHEETAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Firestorm? Last I checked he's a good guy. I heard that Major Force will be in LOD. He's an old enemy of Captain Atom.
Lightshade
08-05-2005, 07:48 PM
By the way, wasn't it rumored some time ago that a villian called "Firestorm" (or some such thing), was appearing in an epsiode with Luthor and Grodd? If so, we could add him (her?) to the list.Oops!I was handwriting the list out, and that name musta got on there by accident.:sweat:
Yojimbo
08-05-2005, 10:52 PM
In my opinion the season finale may be similar to the Cosmic Odyessey from the comics in which Darkseid tries to tap into the power of the Source Wall and Highfather recruits some of Earth's heroes to team up with the New Gods to stop him. Highfather ends up sacrificing himself in the end.
Since the beginning of JLU, Mr. McDuffie said Firestorm would appear but nothing came of it. But since there is also news that this coming season will introduce new characters, Firestorm may be up again. However, I think the fan reaction to him will be as mixed as AMAZO.
I'm not sure, but it seems like the Legion of Doom will be behind the scenes more this season than directly fighting the JLU. That's what it sounded like with Mr. Timm's quotes from the SDCC. Perhaps, the Legion of Doom will continue on to a fifth season depending on its renewal status...
Oops!I was handwriting the list out, and that name musta got on there by accident.:sweat:
Heh heh, sorry about that. I'm a comic book ignoramus, and from this board I heard rumours about a heat based villian coming up, and someone called "Firestrom" being mentioned as a possible future character. I guess I just got my wires crossed. So "Firestrom" is a hero, and "Heatwave" is a villian, right?
I'm not sure, but it seems like the Legion of Doom will be behind the scenes more this season than directly fighting the JLU. That's what it sounded like with Mr. Timm's quotes from the SDCC. Perhaps, the Legion of Doom will continue on to a fifth season depending on its renewal status...
That would be awesome!:D
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