View Full Version : Would you accept a "Crisis" that ended the DCAU?
Chad Bonin
07-14-2005, 11:33 PM
Say that WB decided to do a reverse of "Crisis On Infinite Earths" at the end of Justice League Unlimited, due to some cosmic event, the DCAU ended.
In it's place were multiple universes. One where Robin was Dick Grayson, and instead of growing up to be Nightwing, grew up and led a team of Teen Titans. Another where Bruce Wayne lived in a Manor in the heart of Gotham and was known as "The Batman" to criminals and the GCPD, one not headed by Commissioner Gordon. Superman's dog Krypto has adventures in one divergent reality, Hal Jordan met Duck Dodgers in another, and the Legion of Superheroes would make you ask "It's the 30th century. Do you know where your children are?". Flash asks Superman "What, like some sort of justice league?" with the response "No, more like Superfriends". Aquaman, instead of being a monarch with a hook for a hand, simply shook his booty in grocery stores and the like. Beavis and Butthead became members of the Teen Titans. Apache Chief sought out the help of one Harvey Birdman. The Joker invaded the computers of the Absolution. Scooby Doo needed the help of Batman and Robin, the boy wonder.
Essentially, instead of combining different realities into one (a la Crisis On Infinite Earths), the DCAU was split into all the animated variations it's had over the years. Thusly, the DCAU in a way would have given birth to Superfriends, Teen Titans, The Batman, etc.
Would that be a fitting end to the DCAU? Or, like the various Crisis of comics, would you meet it with much disdain or acclaim?
Fone Bone
07-14-2005, 11:48 PM
I admit seeing all of those universes crossing over would be great (ESPECIALLY, Krypto, Duck Dodgers, Superfriends and Scooby Doo) but I would be pissed off beyonf belief if the DCAU was retconned out of existance. I would much rather have a multi-universe crossover that DIDN'T end with all but one universe being destroyed and that all of the DC series (including Teen Titans and The Batman) were put into DCAU continuity this way. We don't need to kill the DCAU to do a crossover with all of these shows.
It still would be great if it was 13 parts and the last DCAU story ever though. We could fit in the League plus Batman Beyond and Zeta, Static, and everyone else who was a mainstay of ANY series. DCAU Nightwing could meet Teen Titans Robin. Batman and The Batman battle Joker and The Joker. Superman clashes with his Superfriends counterpart. Ra's Al Ghul, Darkseid, Vandal Savage, DCAU Joker, Lex Luthor, and Brainiac team up with Slade and the Legion of Doom. (Mechanikat would try to join the party and be rejected.);) Terry could go back in time and meet Krypto.:anime: Scooby Doo and Duck Dodgers could cameo.:p
Honestly, after Mxyspxilated I don't think ANYTHING the producers could cook up would be too insane.:D
Style
07-14-2005, 11:52 PM
Honestly, it's redundant. All those other Universes already exist. What's the point in "officially sanctioning" them at the end of the DCAU? It actually seems kind of condescending: As if those other shows couldn't exist without them somehow tying back to the DCAU.
EmaHalJordan
07-14-2005, 11:53 PM
yeaahh! i want crisis for the final!! :narf:
i want see the death of Barry Allen, most Hal Jordan, Hawkman (Katar Hol), the JSA (with Allan, Jay, Carter, and Wildcat), The Titans (Perez Style), Aquaman Green & Orange, Outsiders, Legion of Superheroes, Captain Marvel & the Marvel Family
CRISIS IS THE ONLY HOPE OF ITS CHARACTERS
great roles for: Hal, Atom, Bruce, Katar, Firestorm, Spectre, Supes, Diana, Kara, Psicopirata, Harbinger, Lex, Cap Marvel
teams of Katar/Atom and Ollie/Hal and Hal/Barry and Kara/Barbara
Crimen Syndicates vs Justice Lords !
Watchtower ! Hall of Justice ! the classic Satellite ! :zim:
EmaHalJordan
Fone Bone
07-14-2005, 11:57 PM
Honestly, it's redundant. All those other Universes already exist. What's the point in "officially sanctioning" them at the end of the DCAU? It actually seems kind of condescending: As if those other shows couldn't exist without them somehow tying back to the DCAU.Only a person without a soul would not want John Stewart to meet Scooby Doo.:p
Style
07-15-2005, 12:12 AM
Only a person without a soul would not want John Stewart to meet Scooby Doo.:p Hey! "You have no soul" is one of MY lines!
But I admit, I do have a curiosity about how a "Scooby Doo meets the Justice League" turn out. ;)
Fone Bone
07-15-2005, 12:18 AM
Hey! "You have no soul" is one of MY lines! Sorry! I forgot you invented the expression.;) :p
But I admit, I do have a curiosity about how a "Scooby Doo meets the Justice League" turn out. ;)As you should.:D
Krypton_Knight
07-15-2005, 01:34 AM
Crisis was a response to forty years and tens of thousands of books worth of tangled continuity - and not particularly a good response at that (though it was better than many maxi-crossovers).
The DCAU doesn't need it.
KK
RAINMAN
07-15-2005, 03:38 AM
If there was a crisis, superfriends would most likely be erase from counitly.
GLMosaic37
07-15-2005, 11:29 AM
I think a more fitting end would be to highlight the events that led up to the Apocalypse that Ras Al Ghul was always talking about. You could spend the first 2/3rds of the episodes showing how our current day JLU either did something to set the Apocalypse into motion. The finale could be a 4 parter that begins with narraration from either Ras (screw the Bat-Embargo!) or Vandal Savage, since as immortals they would have knowledge of how it began & how it ended. The firstepisode of the 4 parter would show our JLU for presumably the last time. The next two shows could focus on the Apocalypse itself. And in the 1-hour series finale, we would see how things ended and how it all ties back to the Original 7 and the formation of the Justice League.
:cool:
Kid Eternity
07-15-2005, 03:39 PM
I think a more fitting end would be to highlight the events that led up to the Apocalypse that Ras Al Ghul was always talking about. You could spend the first 2/3rds of the episodes showing how our current day JLU either did something to set the Apocalypse into motion. The finale could be a 4 parter that begins with narraration from either Ras (screw the Bat-Embargo!) or Vandal Savage, since as immortals they would have knowledge of how it began & how it ended. The firstepisode of the 4 parter would show our JLU for presumably the last time. The next two shows could focus on the Apocalypse itself. And in the 1-hour series finale, we would see how things ended and how it all ties back to the Original 7 and the formation of the Justice League.
:cool:
To build on that idea, I think it would be cool if characters from the Crisis like Pariah, Harbinger and Lady Quark were to make an appearance. Also, Phantom Stranger and Spectre are needed for a story like this. I see Phantom Stranger playing the role of Ra's Al Ghul's conscience. Pariah can appear in various parts of the story warning diiferent JLU members of an impending catasptrophe and Harbinger can help aide the JLU in efforts of saving the world from the Apocalypse of '09.
The Weed Of Cri
07-15-2005, 04:22 PM
Personally, I'd rather see them do "Identity Crisis" in Adult Swim. But then, I'm a sick puppy.
Anthonynotes
07-15-2005, 08:26 PM
As Style 92 said, the various DC superhero related shows (or shows where a few DC heroes exist, like "Scooby Doo" and "Duck Dodgers") *already* are in seperate universes by virtue of being in their own seperately running series ("Teen Titans" and "Superfriends" certainly aren't in the same reality...). Thus, it's just a matter of bringing together all these characters from their seperate universes to face some massive cross-universe threat.... the Anti-Monitor DCAU-style I guess?
Still, if a "Crisis" adaptation *had* to be made, I wouldn't want to see all these series' seperate universes wiped out at all---I'd think in an Animated version of "Crisis", the good guys would actually *win* and keep their worlds intact. :-)
Stuff that'd be interesting to see:
Terry McGinnis meeting "The Batman" and asking why he doesn't look like the old pictures of him in action he'd seen in old newspaper clippings ("you look like that old actor my mom said she liked as a kid... Jackie Chen or Chan or something...").
Krypto and Ace the Bat-Hound meet the Batman Beyond-Ace.
Mechanicat does *something* in all of this. Team up with other "oddball" DCAU-ish villains maybe?
Superfriends' Superman and S:TAS-Superman scratch their heads at each others' origin stories' differences (a pre-Crisis vs. post-Crisis SUperman comparison-fest).
The Batman from the Scooby-Doo universe is surprised at the number of other superheroes in existence (since far as I can tell, Scooby's world only has four superheroes that're known to exist: Batman, Robin, Blue Falcon, and Dynomutt...).
Supergirl dies saving Superman (*any* Superman) from the Anti-Monitor's big honkin' weapon-thingy, lending to the image that Cartoon network will use on all its promos and media press releases on this thing (the "Superman holding a dead Supergirl" shot).
The Flash dies saving the universe from another one of the A-M's big honkin' weapon-thingies.
Pointless destruction of newly-introduced parallel Earths that vaguely resemble some old obscure DC Comic (a la the "Justice Guild") to show "this is serious".
Just as in the original comic, the final defeat of the Anti-Monitor comes from the original Superman...that classic animated template from whence all other versions came...I refer to (in this media-spinoff-only case) of course none other than... the FLEISCHER SUPERMAN! :-)
The heroes go back to their own universes, glad they live in worlds where Superman was Superboy in his teen years/Krypto and the Dog Stars are around/Batman is a teenager fighting Inque in a futuristic Gotham/Wonder Woman's "origin" consisted of her pulling the "five-finger discount" on her costume and supplies. ;-)
EDIT: OK, so I don't want to see Supergirl or Flash die. Change it to "two tertiary super-characters I don't care about" (like Mr. Miracle or something) instead... ;-)
-B.
BeastBoyWonder
07-15-2005, 09:10 PM
The idea of a "Crisis" like Infinite Earths in the DCAU is downright ridiculous.
Yojimbo
07-15-2005, 09:31 PM
The idea of a "Crisis" like Infinite Earths in the DCAU is downright ridiculous.
I agree wholeheartedly. All the shows are fine in their own universes, there is no need to do a "Crisis".
Style
07-15-2005, 10:17 PM
Just as in the original comic, the final defeat of the Anti-Monitor comes from the original Superman...that classic animated template from whence all other versions came...I refer to (in this media-spinoff-only case) of course none other than... the FLEISCHER SUPERMAN! :-) Having Fleischer Superman be the Earth 2 counterpart of the DCAU and the one who saves the multiverse would allow me to die a happy man.:)
The coolest part is, that's actually feesible. The Fleischer shorts are in the public domain now, so, anyone could use that version of Superman, I'd imagine. (or maybe I'm butchering the copy-right laws?:shrug: )
Natey
07-15-2005, 10:31 PM
yes, i would except it. i love crises along if their not happening to me or the a mega major thing on the earth. and i would love to see homer simpson with superman it would make something really scary;)
~Nate~
Chad Bonin
07-15-2005, 11:41 PM
Having Fleischer Superman be the Earth 2 counterpart of the DCAU and the one who saves the multiverse would allow me to die a happy man.:)Wow, Fleischer Superman, Superfriends Superman, and DCAU Superman fighting side by side would just be... odd.
This "Crisis" would not be a needed thing, it could just be a fitting end to the DCAU and allow all the other series to actually be in some freakish continuity.
... of course, there's always Identity Crisis and Infinite Crisis they could adapt, but the former would have to be an Adult Swim Action thing, and the other... well, we know jack about.
Personally, I'd rather see them do "Identity Crisis" in Adult Swim. But then, I'm a sick puppy.That makes two of us :evil: I loved Identity Crisis.
As for Crisis on Infinite Earths, they'd have to introduce mulitple Earths for it to make sense. Doing so at this late date wouldn't feel right, and it wouldn't have the same weight unless multiple Earths were established years ago. I'd like the DCAU's swan song to be just as epic, but an adaptation isn't necessary.
Caswin
07-16-2005, 12:10 AM
Inverse Crisis resulting mass origin story... Fleischer Superman... more or less locking everything together... I like it! Yeah, that about covers it. And now I really, REALLY want to see it. DCAU writers, are you listening to this? o_O
RAINMAN
07-17-2005, 12:23 PM
That makes two of us :evil: I loved Identity Crisis.
As for Crisis on Infinite Earths, they'd have to introduce mulitple Earths for it to make sense. Doing so at this late date wouldn't feel right, and it wouldn't have the same weight unless multiple Earths were established years ago. I'd like the DCAU's swan song to be just as epic, but an adaptation isn't necessary.
There are mulitple earths in DCAU. The loards, one. The justice guild one. And the one where hal jordan came from in TOAPFT.
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