Any one know when Alex Ross's "Justice For all" comes out?

[Style]

Okay, I'm an unabashed cartoon guy and I admit it, often ignoring the comics.

But I heard Alex Ross was doing this thing called "Justice For All" and it was sort of a remake of "Challenge of the Superfriends." Which just sounds like the coolest thing of all time.

So, when's the first issue coming out? Is it out already?

[Clayface]

Justice #1 (of 12) (http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=4010) comes out August 17th.

[Mister Intensity]

That's a long wait, especially with the end of Dark Detective coming next week.

Mister Intensity

[Eddie G.]

Here's the preview for the book. It looks awesome. (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Justice/JusticePreview.htm)

[Style]

Here's the preview for the book. It looks awesome. (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Justice/JusticePreview.htm)
Oh. My. God.

That was...perfect.:)

Now THAT'S just my dream for the Justice League, the perfect union of JLU and Superfriends. Every thing about it, was so right, even as it was so wrong. Everyone was just as they should be... Wonderwoman, asking Hera for help even as the world crumbles, Batman desperatly leading children into the batcave to protect them, (YES! Batman, protector of the children, Someone finally understands him!) And Superman, flying away from the earth as it explodes, tears streaming down his eyes...:eek:

I want this. I want the first issue. I want all 12 issues that it's gonna take 2 years to finish right NOW.

This may finally be what gets me into the comics!

(I'm assuming it's continuity neatral, right?)

[wonderfly]

Boy, that's some spoilers in that last post...I had been trying to avoid the previews, to keep some things in suspense when the 1st issue came out.

But yes, I've heard this miniseries has a bit of cheesiness to it....not sure how I feel about that. Anybody looking for this to be "Kingdom Come: the Sequel" will be disappointed, I believe...

[Mister Intensity]

I don't think it will be so much cheesiness as its going to be more "traditional" in feel and storytelling. I really don't think the preview pages are spoilerific because if it were then this series wouldn't last more than one issue since the pages depicts the end of the world as we know it.

Mister Intensity

[Chad Bonin]

I'll be buying it, but I utterly hate Alex Ross' addiction to the silver age. Has the man ever painted Kyle Rayner or Wally West?

That's a long wait, especially with the end of Dark Detective coming next week.... what's Dark Detective got to do with it? Please tell me that's not the only DC book you're reading.

[Style]

Sorry about the spoilers folks, (And thanks to whoever added the tags.) Silly me, I guess I assumed that everyone had seen the preview by now. But, I should have been more sensitive to those who don't read even the previews.

[Clayface]

I'll be buying it, but I utterly hate Alex Ross' addiction to the silver age.

Yeah, I'll be picking this up basically for the art alone. Ross' silver age fanboyism (not to mention his political stances) gets to be a bit too much for me as well, but in small doses (like this mini-series) I find it's got a certain charm.


Sorry about the spoilers folks, (And thanks to whoever added the tags.)

You're welcome! :) Sorry for not catching it earlier, wonderfly. It didn't occur to me that those were spoilers when I read it, since i had already seen the preview.

[Clayface]

Speaking of pretty pictures, Newsarama has up some nifty sketches (http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC05/AlexRoss/Ross_Justice_Villains.html) by Ross of some of the villains that will appear in Justice. (Unfortunately, I can't say I'm terrible fond of his rendition of Clayface though - looks too much like a guy in a potato sack to me.)

[Mister Intensity]

I'll be buying it, but I utterly hate Alex Ross' addiction to the silver age. Has the man ever painted Kyle Rayner or Wally West?
... what's Dark Detective got to do with it? Please tell me that's not the only DC book you're reading.
Besides the Seven Soldiers minis, it is the only DC book I'm reading. I have no problem with either Ross' addiction to the Silver Age or his politics. :D

Mister Intensity

[Chad Bonin]

Yeah, I'll be picking this up basically for the art alone. Ross' silver age fanboyism (not to mention his political stances) gets to be a bit too much for me as well, but in small doses (like this mini-series) I find it's got a certain charm. It seems we agree on something, I guess as a balance to our disagreement on Hush. His art is excellent, but I definitely don't need his political stance shoved in my face.


I have no problem with either Ross' addiction to the Silver Age or his politics. :DI wouldn't have a problem with Ross' addiction to the Silver Age... IF HE EVER DID MODERN CHARACTERS. Seriously, give me a Kyle Rayner or a modern Superboy or Tim Drake or an OMAC project...

The man's content with the classic stuff, while his style could make the modern stuff future classics.

[Jor-El]

Does anyone else think that the cover of Justice #1 is just kind'a WEAK?

As far as his political stances go, I don't really understand why an artist is not allowed to make a political stance. That's certainly his own right as an American citizen and certainly was not shoving his opinion in anyone's face any more than television campaign ads for political candidates shove their messages into people's faces.

[Chad Bonin]

Political candidates are guaranteed equal screen time though. Not once did you see a shot of John Kerry sucking the blood (ketchup?) out of an American icon.

[Clayface]

Does anyone else think that the cover of Justice #1 is just kind'a WEAK?

Actually, yeah. It's not that impressive. But the interior art sure look purty.


As far as his political stances go, I don't really understand why an artist is not allowed to make a political stance. That's certainly his own right as an American citizen and certainly was not shoving his opinion in anyone's face any more than television campaign ads for political candidates shove their messages into people's faces.

Absolutely. I have no problem with comic creators making a politcal stance, and I don't even have a problem with them including political stances and commentary in comics. It's just that Ross's brand of politics (ultra wacky liberal) grates on my nerves, and any time he feels the need to express it, I'm going to avoid it. (Not that I have a problem with liberals in general - I just don't like anyone that falls into the extreme on either side, liberal or conservative.)

[Jor-El]

Political candidates are guaranteed equal screen time though. Not once did you see a shot of John Kerry sucking the blood (ketchup?) out of an American icon.Well let's be reasonable: that's just not Alex Ross's fault. Any other artist was welcome to create such an image.

And I'm glad I'm not alone on being wholly unimpressed (to the point of being downright underwhelmed) by the cover. It just looks sloppy. Like it's a draft or something.

[Ed Liu]

Howdy,


I wouldn't have a problem with Ross' addiction to the Silver Age... IF HE EVER DID MODERN CHARACTERS. Seriously, give me a Kyle Rayner or a modern Superboy or Tim Drake or an OMAC project...

The man's content with the classic stuff, while his style could make the modern stuff future classics.
Why should he have to do the modern stuff? If Kyle, the new Superboy, Tim Drake, or OMAC are truly classic characters, they will be whether Alex Ross paints them or not. If they aren't meant to be classics, they won't be no matter how many people attempt to convince us that they are. Alex Ross could do the fully painted monthly adventures of Marvel's Arana starting tomorrow, but barring someone like Alan Moore giving her a massive makeover, she'd still be buried and forgotten within a few years (IMO, of course).

Personally, what I find most annoying about Justice is Ross' insistence on simultaneous attempts to mythologize the DC heroes while using the Superfriends as his high water mark. Even if you do accept that Aquaman is the Superhero as Father Figure what-not he's saying (and I don't -- I think Aquaman is Superhero as a guy who can breathe underwater and talk to fish, and I don't think there's anything wrong or necessarily lame with that at all), that isn't something that came up in those 70's cartoons at all. Some superheroes tap into that primal mythological vein that we seem to have buried deep in our subconscious minds, but some really don't and not all of them have to.

Not that interested in talking about his politics. Been there, done that (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1491152&postcount=26).

-- Ed/Ace