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UmmYeahOk
07-14-2005, 05:18 PM
Im confused... ...every year, around June, Disney has had an animated film... ...during later years they would have one 2d animated film in the summer, and then one 3d pixar movie in the fall... ...Recently however, they have switched with pixar being the summer movie, and the 2d being the fall... ...I have seen both trailers for Chicken Little AND Cars... ...both 3d movies... ...but no 2d movie... ...I had thought that chicken little would be released this summer, especially since I started seeing tv commercials last spring. But after checking imdb... ...this fall? and cars: 2006! So, the only animated summer movie was the dreamworks 3d Madagascar?

Heffalump movie was released in feburary it said... ..even if it was released this summer, I dont consider sequels a part of the disney summer movie collection... ...just as I dont consider rereleased movies a part of it.

Does anyone here know if Disney plans on having any more 2d animated films?

Rook
07-14-2005, 06:19 PM
the reasoning behind that, you'd have to go into a deeper discussion but i dont think the mods would approve...

but they disney does have "Howl's Moving Castle" which i wouldnt really consider disney since its anime...

and then theres "Valiant" coming august 19 which is another 3d animation about talking carrier pigeons in the World War. http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/valiant/

Tobias
07-14-2005, 06:34 PM
Disney's offering this year is the 3D 'Chicken Little', which will be out around Thanksgiving.

the Amanda
07-14-2005, 06:54 PM
If it's still playing in a theater near you, I would recommend going to see Howl's Moving Castle, which, as pointed out, is not Disney, but is being distributed by Disney. It's a 2D animated film with a strong fairy-tale/ Disney influence. It's by no means a perfect film but I think it is very good and should appeal to many Disney fans. Otherwise, just wait for Valiant & Chicken Little, and don't hold your breath for 2D releases (unless it's DTV sequels you're after).

UmmYeahOk
07-14-2005, 09:13 PM
So basically, no disney summer animated movie? Great :sad:

I guess theyre making money in other ways.

Wolfcruiser
07-14-2005, 09:30 PM
So basically, no disney summer animated movie? Great :sad:

I guess theyre making money in other ways.
They're Disney, tha's what they do best.

I'm glad Disney didn't bother to release a summer movie, with all the bad press about the movie industry and the record slump that was held these past 19 weeks (only broken just barely by Fantastic Four), I think if Disney would've put out a film, it would've done average at best, despite the summer season the hot spot for films.

UmmYeahOk
07-14-2005, 10:52 PM
Actually, I bet that if disney released Home on The Range, Trasure Planet, or Atlantis this year, rather than their others, they would have more success... ...I mean lets see what movies are out there...

War Of The Worlds - remake of a radio show
King Kong - remake of a classic black in white
Bad New Bears - another remake
Willy Wonka - yet another remake
Herbie - lemme see, ...remake?
Star Wars - sequel/prequal
Honeymooners - bizarre movie adapted from a tv show
Bewitched - a movie about a tv show

This is probally why Fantastic Four will make so much money... ..I mean, its sorta a remake, but then again, sorta not.

Madagascar, though good, wasnt as nearly as good any what Disney would/could have put out... ...But it made a ton of money! Why? Well, lets check our demographics... ... Their target audience is children, right? What movies this summer do children have to look forward to? Madagascar and Herbie... ...maybe, possibly that Sky High... ...but only one is animated.

Disney could have rereleased any one of their classics this summer, and made millions! Millions, and they wouldnt even have to do anything!

the Amanda
07-14-2005, 11:02 PM
What they should have done is given Howl's Moving Castle a bigger push...

Rook
07-14-2005, 11:15 PM
Actually, I bet that if disney released Home on The Range, Trasure Planet, or Atlantis this year, rather than their others, they would have more success... ...I mean lets see what movies are out there...

War Of The Worlds - remake of a radio show
King Kong - remake of a classic black in white
Bad New Bears - another remake
Willy Wonka - yet another remake
Herbie - lemme see, ...remake?
Star Wars - sequel/prequal
Honeymooners - bizarre movie adapted from a tv show
Bewitched - a movie about a tv show

This is probally why Fantastic Four will make so much money... ..I mean, its sorta a remake, but then again, sorta not.

Madagascar, though good, wasnt as nearly as good any what Disney would/could have put out... ...But it made a ton of money! Why? Well, lets check our demographics... ... Their target audience is children, right? What movies this summer do children have to look forward to? Madagascar and Herbie... ...maybe, possibly that Sky High... ...but only one is animated.

Disney could have rereleased any one of their classics this summer, and made millions! Millions, and they wouldnt even have to do anything!
actually this herbie movie would be a sequel, the old owner is gone but the bug is still around for the next gen yada yada....


dont you guys get it. its like the music industry, they ran out of ideas so they are back tracking : /

UmmYeahOk
07-14-2005, 11:25 PM
dont you guys get it. its like the music industry, they ran out of ideas so they are back tracking : /
It pisses me off that they are blaming internet piracy as the reason why the music/movie industry isnt making much money... ...maybe if they produced something original, people would actually buy it... ...BTW... ...it totally pisses me off how every girl Disney hires to be the leading role in their movies automatically becomes a famous singer too! :mad: Lets see how many ways we can make money off these people... ...oh, I have an idea! How about an entire clothing line!

Wolfcruiser
07-15-2005, 10:04 AM
This is probally why Fantastic Four will make so much money... ..I mean, its sorta a remake, but then again, sorta not.

The same can be said for Herbie, an all new concept starring Herbie.



BTW... ...it totally pisses me off how every girl Disney hires to be the leading role in their movies automatically becomes a famous singer too! :mad: Lets see how many ways we can make money off these people... ...oh, I have an idea! How about an entire clothing line!

LOL, you didn't hear Lindsay Lohan was in the plans of launching her own?

Kagetsu
07-15-2005, 03:33 PM
War Of The Worlds - remake of a radio show
I'm gonna haf ta nit pick this one

Book-HG Wells
Radio-Orsan Wells (no relation)
1953 Movie, scared the daylights out of me the first time I saw it as a lil'un.

But I agree about all the remakes, no one has an original idea in this country any more. I blame the 60's generation who are running things now. :shrug:


The same can be said for Herbie, an all new concept starring Herbie. Compared to the original Herbie, this one looks sad.


What they should have done is given Howl's Moving Castle a bigger push...With the increasing popularity of anime and all the trouble Disney went to to get Studio Ghibly films, I can't believe they're still only limited opening in large cities:sad:

Elven Moon
07-15-2005, 04:31 PM
A long time ago I found myself really tired of the summer time, talking animals and singing, Disney films. Now I find I really miss them :sad:

Natey
07-15-2005, 06:15 PM
we need another disney animated classic seeing we havent had one for a while. but no disney animated movies. bah give them a break.

~Nate~

the Amanda
07-15-2005, 09:01 PM
we need another disney animated classic seeing we havent had one for a while. but no disney animated movies. bah give them a break.

~Nate~

Uh.... so do you want a Disney animated movie, or not?

Azrael24
07-15-2005, 09:26 PM
i never post overhere but oh well!!

its been a while since they made a good animated disney movie, i was born when lion king, aladdin, beauty and the beast, and little mermaid came out so i grew up with those movies. later on they made other movies that werent that good but still pretty good like pocahontas, hunchback, hercules, and tarzan. then they made not good but avarage movies like atlantis and treasure planet. they're slowly making bad movies. they need to get good writters and make another movie like lion king and beauty and the beast. its just the new movies lack from great stories, great animation, and good music. and they need to stop making so many live action movies, they're just not as good as animated movies. the only good movies lately are pixar's movies. but thats not good enough.

thats my 2 cents

UmmYeahOk
07-16-2005, 10:59 PM
In my opinion Disney movies became instant classics with Little Mermaid (even though I didnt like it) Alladin, Beauty & The Beast, and Lion King... ...But after the success of pocahontas, everything went down hill... ..Hunchback, Hercules, Atlantis... ... ...and it got worse from there

HOWEVER, somehow, Disney revived itself with Lilo & Stitch... ...Unlike disneys other movies, it was a story I never heard of, and characters I could love... ...There was nothing about this film I disliked... ...However, due to its success, it spawned 2 sequels, several video games, a tv series, and totally took over Tomorrowland in Disney World.

For some reason, movies after Stitch, even though, they were good, failed. During the early 90s however, the marketing was genius... ...several months before the summer animated movie was released, there would be tons of toys, action figures, and what not... ...I did not see this for any of the 21st century movies... ...seems like the marketing came after the movie.

loyalheart
07-16-2005, 11:27 PM
Rapunzela should be done as traditional... =(
(i probably spelling that wrong, sorry)

I have to say, Disney is one company that has always had sluggish periods. I Feel like people have forgotten this isn't the first time we they had a "so-so" go w/animation.
Situations are different and worse, but If it could change for the better before.... A nice bunch of these Disney Animators who went off, have come back to work on live-action and Disney shorts... Who's to say there's no way they wouldn't come back if something better was given to them?



it totally pisses me off how every girl Disney hires to be the leading role in their movies automatically becomes a famous singer too! :mad: Lets see how many ways we can make money off these people... ...oh, I have an idea! How about an entire clothing line
If they really want to pursue singing or a clothing line, they should go off w/another company. They will just be taken advantage of by Disney IMHO Since some of these starlets had wanted to go do music BEFORE it was offered. Oh and they only take certain starlets if they feel they have enough "star power". Which is why certain starlets who really have a urge for music are with someone like Atlantic Records.

MonkeyFunk
07-17-2005, 12:57 PM
From what I've heard, Rapunzel will be a very unusual-looking CGI film, so I'm pretty interested in seeing how it turns out.

The Weed Of Cri
07-21-2005, 11:02 AM
Disney's animation department is in a state of flux right now. Within the last year, they've just about closed down their traditional 2-D cell art studios to everything except films that were already in production and the fly-by-night cheap-quels to their classic animated films. The cheap-quels are being made mostly for the home-video releases, which is where they make their money. The theatrical releases of these film are basically commercials for the video release.


In addition, Disney is recovering from Pixar's decision to leave Disney after their final film for them (Cars) was completed. Since Disney has decided that all their major theatrical cartoons will be 3-D in the future, they had to find a replacement for Pixar. Their first two non-Pixar 3-D films were not finished in time for June release, so they were rescheduled for late August (Valiant) and November (Chicken Little). This means that Cars got pushed back from Fall of 2005 to Summer of 2006 so it would not compete with Chicken Little. This left Disney with no major animated film for June, so they are focusing instead on their live-action films like Herbie: Fully Loaded and Sky High.

Sailor V
07-21-2005, 05:08 PM
No!

UmmYeahOk
07-24-2005, 12:17 AM
Have they even advertised Valiant? I have no clue what its about... ...I know more about Chicken Little, and thats being released after Valiant?

the Amanda
07-24-2005, 10:56 PM
Have they even advertised Valiant? I have no clue what its about... ...I know more about Chicken Little, and thats being released after Valiant?

I've seen plenty of Valiant trailers. It seems to be about a ragtag bunch of messenger pigeons in World War II. The trailers are mostly gags and one-liners, but that's the way Disney seems to advertise everything.

sKorpia
07-25-2005, 03:04 PM
For more information on Valiant: Valiant's (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361089/) IMDb page (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361089/)

It should be pointed out that Disney is distributing Valiant and didn't make it. It's officially been out since March. Reviews have been so-so.

With all the bemoaning of the death of Disney 2D, how did anyone not know that there were no more 2D films to be expected? What's even more surprising is the fact that some people here are voicing a sense of nostalgia for the Disney musical. Could the predictions that, "Once the public knows what they've lost, they'll want it back" be true? (I highly doubt it. The musical as a form isn't doing that hot elsewhere either and no one's been asking Dreamworks why they're not putting out 2D fare.)

MonkeyFunk
07-25-2005, 03:13 PM
It should be pointed out that Disney is distributing Valiant and didn't make it.

Yeah, it's made by Vanguard, which Disney is hoping will replace Pixar.
I've already seen it; it has its moments, but it's pretty lame overall. Worth watching when it comes on TV, though.

UmmYeahOk
07-26-2005, 02:16 AM
What's even more surprising is the fact that some people here are voicing a sense of nostalgia for the Disney musical. Could the predictions that, "Once the public knows what they've lost, they'll want it back" be true? (I highly doubt it. The musical as a form isn't doing that hot elsewhere either and no one's been asking Dreamworks why they're not putting out 2D fare.)
I always appreciated them, and looked forward to future releases every summer, till I discovered the lack of one. I do believe that most made to video movies SHOULDNT be musicals... ...and infact, was Emperors New Groove a musical? I think Sting had a song, but I dont real actually hearing it in the mavie itself. Infact, a lot of dinsey movies have only one or two songs. I feel that thats a decent ammount. You dont have to have 4 to 5 songs for a cartoon movie. I mean, it worked for Lion King and others... ...but it shouldnt become a formula.

As for dreamworks... ...their 2d films werent all that good... ..they were ok, but compared to what disney was putting out... ...well it did to them what disney did for WB's animated movies. Can't compete, so dont.