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Zechs
07-05-2005, 03:01 PM
I hate fanboys/girls. You know the type, the ones running around spouting crap about ( insert overrated anime here) and really knowing nothing about it. They never venture outside of said anime and beat you over the head with how cool it is. Then they think they know everything about anime and all they really watch is one or only the popular ones. ( and most of the time it's a crappy one). Now I know that some will grow out of it and that's fine but it still pisses me off. Worse are the ones who won't let a show die. Years after it's past its prime or has gotten stale. I mean how many times can you watch a dead show and enjoy it? These anime fans give the rest of us sane anime fans a bad name.

Have you run into any of these nuts either here on TZ or anywhere else? Also have they affected the way you think about anime?

Artimus Gigan
07-05-2005, 03:04 PM
The ones who feel the need to insert random japanese words into english sentences

The ones who purposely act like crack additcs in the Manga or Anime sections in the stores just because

The ones who think that Japan is a nerd utopia

The ones who act like they're in an anime in reality

People Who like Shonen Jump

oh and those people who force japanese candy down their throats just to try to appear "into it"....Yeah WE ALL KNOW YOU WANT TO SPIT OUT THAT PEPPER CANDY! BUT NOOO YOU TRY TO FAKE YOURSELF INTO BELEAVING THAT IT'S GOOD JSUT BECAUSE IT'S JAPANESE!


so all in all just pretty much those Japanophiles....

They ar e getting pretty hard to comeby in public places now...I have a theory though, I think it's due to the incrased poplarity of manga with females...

the estrogen must scare them off...

CyberCubed
07-05-2005, 03:10 PM
#1 pic: Anime fans in America who think that everyone in Japan absolutely LOVES anime.

They're so damn stupid that they don't realize that anime is not the most popular thing since sliced bread in Japan. In fact, I believe that mainstream Japanese population sees anime in the same way that Americans see cartoons, they're mostly for kids.

Fresh V
07-05-2005, 03:17 PM
People Who like Shonen Jump
You wanna choke me?!:eek:

Artimus Gigan
07-05-2005, 03:19 PM
You wanna choke me?!:eek:No, not really


Just break every bone in you body


:)

Cyporiean
07-05-2005, 03:39 PM
Pretty much watch Artimus said...

Though I'd like to add in the "OMG I WANTZ TO SCREWZ TEH INU AND TEH FLUUFFFY~!!!11" fangirls to the list.

Juu-kuchi
07-05-2005, 03:50 PM
People who think that Japan is a much more superior country than America.

Then comes the people who believe that there's some deep provocative meaning in certain anime like Inu Yasha or Naruto. Finally there's the ones who think people are crazy if they actually watch dub anime.

Master Moron
07-05-2005, 03:58 PM
I hate fanboys/girls. You know the type, the ones running around spouting crap about ( insert overrated anime here) and really knowing nothing about it. They never venture outside of said anime and beat you over the head with how cool it is. Then they think they know everything about anime and all they really watch is one or only the popular ones. ( and most of the time it's a crappy one). Now I know that some will grow out of it and that's fine but it still pisses me off. Worse are the ones who won't let a show die. Years after it's past its prime or has gotten stale. I mean how many times can you watch a dead show and enjoy it? These anime fans give the rest of us sane anime fans a bad name.

Have you run into any of these nuts either here on TZ or anywhere else? Also have they affected the way you think about anime?

Ummm...so you're saying after you watch a series once you just forget about it? That's silly, a classic series is a classic and should be rewatched every now and then because you enjoy it. I mean, I might as well tell my film professors that they need to let Citizen Kane die because it's gotten stale.

Ferquin
07-05-2005, 03:59 PM
Didn't we just have another thread (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=143906) like this?

The Weed Of Cri
07-05-2005, 04:08 PM
As an anime fan of 25 years, all I can say is: I've have met the enemy, and he's usually sitting next to me at conventions. While some fans have gone above the call of duty in promoting and appreciating anime, the Dark Side is out there. They include:

The fans who automatically reject any and all attemps by American Production companies to localize the product. "I've never actually watched (insert program name here), but now that 4Kids (or Funimation, or whatever) has it, it's officially the worst thing ever."

The subsnobs. Most of them don't speak Japanese (or they wouldn't need the sustitles), so how can they tell that the original Japanese voice actors are really better than the ones in the English dub?

The monomaniacs. Who see anime references in every pop culture venue they experience. These people think anime is the greatest thing ever, so why do they react so negatively to anything influenced by it?

The Disney Bashers. They hate any animation that isn't made in Japan (except for animation that's made in Korea and the Phillipines that they delude themselves into believing is made in Japan), but they have a special hatred for the House of Mouse. After The Lion King and Atlantis, we now have evidence that this group is cross-breeding with the monomaniacs.

Mr. Pedro
07-05-2005, 04:12 PM
I hope all of you choke.


















I'm just playin' with you. I love you guys =D

Queen of Hearts
07-05-2005, 04:18 PM
The ones who feel the need to insert random japanese words into english sentences

The ones who purposely act like crack additcs in the Manga or Anime sections in the stores just because

The ones who think that Japan is a nerd utopia

The ones who act like they're in an anime in reality

People Who like Shonen Jump

oh and those people who force japanese candy down their throats just to try to appear "into it"....Yeah WE ALL KNOW YOU WANT TO SPIT OUT THAT PEPPER CANDY! BUT NOOO YOU TRY TO FAKE YOURSELF INTO BELEAVING THAT IT'S GOOD JSUT BECAUSE IT'S JAPANESE!


so all in all just pretty much those Japanophiles....

I can't stand those people either. They're so arrogant and childish.


The fans who automatically reject any and all attemps by American Production companies to localize the product. "I've never actually watched (insert program name here), but now that 4Kids (or Funimation, or whatever) has it, it's officially the worst thing ever."

The subsnobs. Most of them don't speak Japanese (or they wouldn't need the sustitles), so how can they tell that the original Japanese voice actors are really better than the ones in the English dub?

The monomaniacs. Who see anime references in every pop culture venue they experience. These people think anime is the greatest thing ever, so why do they react so negatively to anything influenced by it?

The Disney Bashers. They hate any animation that isn't made in Japan (except for animation that's made in Korea and the Phillipines that they delude themselves into believing is made in Japan), but they have a special hatred for the House of Mouse. After The Lion King and Atlantis, we now have evidence that this group is cross-breeding with the monomaniacs.
Those people annoy me too. Like I said a while back, I don't want to have anything to do with those people.

I will also add other kinds of fanboys/fangirls that I wish I could slap repeatedly:

The Kagome fanatics, the Chibimoon haters, and the Kikyo haters.

Zechs
07-05-2005, 04:25 PM
Ummm...so you're saying after you watch a series once you just forget about it? That's silly, a classic series is a classic and should be rewatched every now and then because you enjoy it. I mean, I might as well tell my film professors that they need to let Citizen Kane die because it's gotten stale. My point is that there are pople who ALWAYS talk about ONE old anime. If your professors only talk about Citizen Kane then I would tell them to shutup. But if they talked about all kinds of old moves the I wouldn't be bothred. I used to be both a SM and GW fan but I've grown past that. Yet I still see fangirls/boys raving about these anime almost non stop and they don't seem to watch anything else. I myself like old movies and anime but I don't go around raving about ONE all the time.

Elven Moon
07-05-2005, 04:33 PM
Anime fans that would shun and boycott a product because, say, 2 seconds was cut out a series, even if it's the best master a company could get.

Anime fans that hate any attempt to imitate anime, thinking, no matter how good or bad it is, it's always better when made in Japan automatically.

Anime fans that bash characters and create whole shrines about it or harrass and annoy people that DO like said character.

I love pairing up characters too, but when people get violent and angry about it, or threaten to leave the fandom because things aren't going the way THEY want, it scares me.

The "ALL dubs are bad" people that think Japanese voice actors are superior in every way, no contest.

And of course, the "everything outside of Japan sucks!" "Japan is the best country ever" "Disney is trying to suppress anime and their movies and shows suck!" and the "I use random Japanese, desu ne!" fans annoy me as well.

RogueMartian
07-05-2005, 04:45 PM
Yaoi fangirls.....may they die by fire....

Zechs
07-05-2005, 04:47 PM
Anime fans that hate any attempt to imitate anime, thinking, no matter how good or bad it is, it's always better when made in Japan automatically.
I was talking with someone about this on another board. I myself hate SOME of these shows because all they did was use the style and didn't do much with the storyline. My biggest problem with this is now that anime is popular american animation which can be just as good is getting ingonred in some places. Also it sucks that they tend to only translate "popular" anime over good ones.

Tea
07-05-2005, 04:53 PM
Most of the fans that annoy me have already been said, but I'll add:

- People who love an anime until it gets licensed/shown on TV. Guess they were never really a fan in the first place. "Pfft, now everyone is going to know about it. I hates it now."

- "Anime-wannabes!" The people who hate any non-oriental anime-like cartoons. Apparently, some of them believe you should be living in Japan before being granted the permission to draw big eyes and multi-colored hair. And they don't think the Japanese copy the style off each other all the time. Because it's ok, they're Japanese!

- The fans who will never be pleased. "Cowboy Bebop's dub sucks."

Neo Yi
07-05-2005, 04:58 PM
The people who hate dubs and constantly needs to shove it down my face, especially if I like a certain dub, whether it's from 4kids or someone else. You have every right to hate dubs, just don't constantly shove it down my throat.
~Neo

Matt-a-Tastic
07-05-2005, 05:14 PM
*looks at thread*
*looks at thread harder*
*looks at thread really really really really really really*

....

No nobody mentioned the "DIGIMON AND POKEMON AND HAMTAR0 WERE ACTURRALLY MADFE 4 AdU1TS iN JApAn, ITS TREEUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111 IN DIGGIMOSHJN THEY HADE A GAY couple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!" people

and also "Digimon sux cauouse it rippped of pokemonszzz!!!!!!!!!11"

and "POKEMONS IZ NOT ANIME BECAAUSE I NOTE LIK IT!"

and "Totally Spiez iZ ANIME!!!!!!!!!!!!"

and "I CONSIDER *insert anime styled non japanese cartoon here* ANS anime becuase I LIKEDS IT"

and " 1 peiece is ruined becauyse zoro is now zolo OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS THE END OF THE WORLD ONE PEICE IS NOW REEEEEEEEALLY INACURATE :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: "

And also, people who constantlly bash pokemon on digimon forums. Gah

Conan-san
07-05-2005, 05:20 PM
and " 1 peiece is ruined becauyse zoro is now zolo OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS THE END OF THE WORLD ONE PEICE IS NOW REEEEEEEEALLY INACURATE :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: " Realy? Say, your not too bad with the people who are

"I say dear chap, I do bealve that awful Khan fellow did a number on that delightful show, One Piece. Replacing the music as he did and such"

you know, people who have a chip on thier soldier because the dub realy ain't worth the reprinted celuroid it's on, not because Zoro is now Zolo?

You know the sort of people who wouldn't realy care if Ren was called "Lord stuffington the 3rd" as long as the dub was enjoyable?

Juu-kuchi
07-05-2005, 05:25 PM
Yaoi fangirls.....may they die by fire.... Ah I forgot of such atrocities. Good to see I have a brother in solidarity against it.

Add Digimon fans who enjoy pairing every character every five different ways with Dakari, Kensuke, miyaken, and so forth.

FlyByNite77
07-05-2005, 05:29 PM
The ones who feel the need to insert random japanese words into english sentences
Hey the Japanese do it with random english words into japanese sentences... :anime:

Juu-kuchi
07-05-2005, 05:31 PM
Hey the Japanese do it with random english words into japanese sentences... :anime: But it isn't like... "WOW that is so sugoi! You are so kawaii!" Sugio nani ga tabemono desu kara made made daneshite kudasai.

Furai bai naito nanajuunana san wa denwa wo tabete kudasai.

Yash
07-05-2005, 05:42 PM
Manga no otaku nosubete ikken wo reikyaku saseru kanashi i kokoromi no bun ni nin'i ni nihongo wo sounyuu suru. Yougu wo tsukau nani ga.

All of the cartoon fans who randomly insert Japanese into their sentences in a sad attempt to make themselves look "cool". What tools.

"ARR POKEMONZ ISN'T TRUE ANIME"

"I'm going to start a Fullmetal Alchemist Uncensored, those bastards at FUNi ruined it... oh, the Fox Box? Um... *runs*"

"All dubs suck."

"OMG INUYASHAXSESSHOMARU KAWAIIIIIIIIII ^______^"

BrendaBat
07-05-2005, 05:44 PM
Origionally posted by Zechs
Have you run into any of these nuts either here on TZ or anywhere else? Also have they affected the way you think about anime?After going to an anime club in high school; my love of anime went down a little due to tramatic encounters with insane otakus. I know its a dumb reason. It think it comes from a fear that, if I get too into anime, I may slowly become one of them.

That said, the Japanophiles scare me the most. Their worship pretty much amounts to reverse-racism. Hell, I've met people who actually spend an hour driving to little Tokyo just to buy candies in the Japanese grocery store! :eek:

I'd also like to punch all the losers that have screaming fits whenever someone refers to anime as a "cartoon". I've actually been on the recieving end of a group otaku rant for letting the c-word slip and, if I hadn't been so out-numbered, I probably would have beaten someone up.

Tenku
07-05-2005, 05:44 PM
Yaoi fangirls.....may they die by fire....
Bout time someone mentioned that. It's even worse when they write fanfics. Ugh, do you know how many times I accidentally read one of those? :shrug:

You think Digimon was bad, try Gundam Wing. 2x1x7x4x3x5x6. :p

Don_East
07-05-2005, 05:51 PM
The generic Inuyasha ASMB fanbase: I hold a grudge against them because I partially blame the failure of both Lupin & Case Closed on them. Plus they are so annoying(I.E. almost all the fan boys want to do it with Kagome, & the fan girls are so emotional on who should Inuyasha be with).

The 4Kids loyalists, especially those who still defend the One Piece dub.

Those anime fans who hate anime-esque just because there animated like anime but not.




[Don_East]

Jave
07-05-2005, 05:58 PM
Fans that think digimons are real. :eek:

FlyByNite77
07-05-2005, 06:13 PM
But it isn't like... "WOW that is so sugoi! You are so kawaii!" Umm actually it is. just replace 'wow that is so' with the japanese equivalent and add in 'cool/awesome'

or the second one to japanese and replace the kawaii with 'pretty' :p

BrendaBat
07-05-2005, 06:20 PM
Originally Posted by FlyByNite77
Hey the Japanese do it with random english words into japanese sentences... :anime:Two wrongs don't make a right. :p

Hordesman
07-05-2005, 06:21 PM
People who write fanfic which pairs up characters that never speak to eachother in canon, especially when it reeks of transference and/or homophobia. Oh, and if it's his brother, please don't write it. Hao can you? There's nothing political in it.

The ff.net reviewer who flips out because his pwecious Wenny is in a HoroRen story he shouldn't have clicked on in the first place.

The guy who sold anti-He-Man art at Metrocon.

Kagetsu
07-05-2005, 06:27 PM
Choke? how'bout I just want to hit them with a shinai?
Yaoi & Yuri fans, it's just not right for animation, the character are often so innocent.

People who arrogantly hate dubs as impure.

Digimon fans, because I accidentally wandered into a Digiforum, that is truly a bizarre and pointless place.

(are Japanese candy really pepper flavor :p)
(So that's where kawaii comes from :sweat: )

GWOtaku
07-05-2005, 06:30 PM
Anime fans that complain about other anime fans.


The "ALL dubs are bad" people that think Japanese voice actors are superior in every way, no contest. I'll agree on this, though. Its a very close-minded viewpoint to have.

Matt-a-Tastic
07-05-2005, 06:44 PM
Realy? Say, your not too bad with the people who are0_o What? When have I ever complained about Zoro-Zolo, I hate the 4Kids dub yeah, but I've never moaned about zoro-zolo.

...I reply to the rest tommorow... to tired to understand it now....

....lord stuffington lol :anime:

Sailor Chibi Otaku
07-05-2005, 06:57 PM
I'm an anime fangirl. I also love yaoi and yuri. Not only that, I add Japanese words into English sentences to help me progress with my Japanese.

So, according to many of you, it's wrong for the Japanese to add English words into Japanese sentences? I take it MANY of you haven't seen anime in Japanese.

Think before you speak.

Queen of Hearts
07-05-2005, 08:01 PM
Anime fans that hate any attempt to imitate anime, thinking, no matter how good or bad it is, it's always better when made in Japan automatically.
I don't like those people either. I draw with a mixture of both anime and Western style, and I don't like these people bashing other artists who draw with the anime style in their art.


Anime fans that bash characters and create whole shrines about it or harrass and annoy people that DO like said character.
I hate it when people create shrines bashing a character too. There are a few characters I can't stand, but I would never create a shrine dedicated to butchering that character. It hurts the fans of that character and it makes you look like a fool. As for the harassment, I know what that's like. I've been harassed for liking Princess Sally of the Sonic series (she's not really an anime, but it still applies to this situation).


I love pairing up characters too, but when people get violent and angry about it, or threaten to leave the fandom because things aren't going the way THEY want, it scares me.

Me too, but like you said, it can get out of hand. Beware of the Sonic the Hedgehog fandom. They are REALLY nasty with that.

Zechs
07-05-2005, 08:04 PM
I'm an anime fangirl. I also love yaoi and yuri. Not only that, I add Japanese words into English sentences to help me progress with my Japanese.

So, according to many of you, it's wrong for the Japanese to add English words into Japanese sentences? I take it MANY of you haven't seen anime in Japanese.

Think before you speak.The only real way learn to learn Japanese is to take a class or buy tapes. Adding a word or two to your sentences won't really help you unelss you have a solid background in Japense. Just like a Japanese girl can't learn English just by throwing a few random words around. She too has to take classes or buy some kind self teaching system. I'm not saying you don't have a solid background in it but if you really want to use it right it best to learn it the right way.

Also I watch my anime in mostly subs yes they do sometimes say a word or two of english but from what I've seen it's not a lot. Also sometimes a songs will have some english in it.
My point when I'm talking to someone I don't want to hear Japense being used just because. I love anime but I keep it all in prespective.

tinlunlau
07-05-2005, 08:15 PM
here's a classic: anime fanboys who seem to have reason to believe that everything in Hong Kong is bootleg, especially anime dvd's.

ToxicOne
07-05-2005, 08:59 PM
I've met many fans that continually say that Digimon and Pokemon are not real anime. I've most also met people that saw Pokemon as their first anime, and later denounced it because it's to "kiddy". Those kind of people make me angry...

purplehairedwonder
07-05-2005, 09:24 PM
Yaoi fangirls.....may they die by fire....Amen.

And those that think they can write, so write fanfics... totally butchering the characters as they go.

Jave
07-05-2005, 09:24 PM
I forgot one: People who write anime fanfiction and take them as "part of the real show".

Timmay
07-05-2005, 09:50 PM
People who still defend Inuyasha.

People who think Naruto is the best anime ever.

People who freak out when they find out someone doesn't like an anime they like, and tries to convince the other person why they're wrong. We're all guilty of that probably, but it got annoying when I said Yu-Gi-Oh had a stupid premise and the guy talked to me for an hour explaining the backstory to the cards, only for me to counter with "cards are stupid".

People who act like they know anime better than anyone else, usually the same people who will bash all dubs.

Hordesman
07-05-2005, 10:31 PM
Eh, generally shounenai and shoujoai are the terms for romance equivalent to, say, a Disney movie. Yaoi and yuri are more hardcore, ecchi even, but it's sort of an umbrella term with US fans and moreso with dealers. Ok, I just want some sweet little shounen/shoujoai among unrelated characters the same age with some indication in canon and all you carry is stuff like Faust/Manta? You see, that's the stuff that gets to me. It's nasty, way out of character and freakish.

But mad props to the doujinshi artists behind LOTR dj "Lord of the Afro" and another title with top-notch likenessnesses of the Fellowship dressed as Playboy Bunnies.

JTurner954
07-05-2005, 11:25 PM
Offline experiences:

I was at a Waldenbooks one time looking at a Case Closed manga and this guy comes up to me and says "You don't want that". He then proceeds to go on about how every title sucks ("Bebop sucks, Berserk sucks,etc.") with his friends giggling in the background. I gave them a cold stare ( to remind them I didn't ask for their "help") and they backed off.

Three people in particular at my first convention annoyed me:

1. During Joshua Seth's panel, he talked about working as the narrator on Kid's WB and did his narrator voice (he said something to the effect of "Yugioh ! Weekdays on Kid's WB"). When it was time to ask questions, a kid at least 6 years old asked about being on Yugioh. This guy on the other side of the room yells out "WRONG SHOW". Joshua went on to explain that he wasn't in Yugioh and told a story about himself and the voice actor who plays Yugioh. Shame on the guy for yelling at the kid and kudos to Joshua Seth for cheering him up.

2. At the David Kaye panel, these Inuyasha fangirls who were yelling "Do Sessy" every two minutes while others are saying stuff like "Oh, he's so hot" and yelling out lines for him to say as Sesshomaru.

3. Also during the David Kaye panel, these two girls were talking in the back row. One person asked for them to keep it down and one girl said something like "I can talk as loud as I want" and proceeded to talk LOUDER. Fortunately, they left after a while.

Online experiences:

Too many examples so I'll just name a couple -

People who went on about how Kenshin was "raped" when it aired on CN. I admit I've seen some edit lists in the past to see how different the uncut versions were, but some people act like it's the end of the world for the smallest edits (I've seen this attitude with manga as well).

People who have insulted me for liking the English dub and music for Dragonball Z. Comments I've received : "You're not a true fan" "Funimation is evil; you're evil". Deep down, I think people are getting ready to act the same way when Naruto airs.

ToxicOne
07-06-2005, 06:01 AM
Offline experiences:

I was at a Waldenbooks one time looking at a Case Closed manga and this guy comes up to me and says "You don't want that". He then proceeds to go on about how every title sucks ("Bebop sucks, Berserk sucks,etc.") with his friends giggling in the background. I gave them a cold stare ( to remind them I didn't ask for their "help") and they backed off.

People who went on about how Kenshin was "raped" when it aired on CN. I admit I've seen some edit lists in the past to see how different the uncut versions were, but some people act like it's the end of the world for the smallest edits (I've seen this attitude with manga as well).

People who have insulted me for liking the English dub and music for Dragonball Z. Comments I've received : "You're not a true fan" "Funimation is evil; you're evil". Deep down, I think people are getting ready to act the same way when Naruto airs.
Those people burn me up to. Guys who think their opinion is truth. The edit thing is just wrong. "What?! Yoh doesn't have his shirt with the "plant" on it?! This manga sucks now!" Idiots. Pay no mind to the ********s when they surface. You'll only provoke them.

WolfieKiwi
07-06-2005, 09:10 AM
Yaoi Yuri fans, its just not what nature intended.

Meh I read shonen jump GN'S like Bleach, One Piece, Dr Slump so shoot me... But i vary in other anime like princess9, dai guard, fruits basket.

Maybe not choke the ones that tick me off, we all got our different reasons. I prefer impale.

j/k

Conan-san
07-06-2005, 10:20 AM
0_o What? When have I ever complained about Zoro-Zolo, I hate the 4Kids dub yeah, but I've never moaned about zoro-zolo.

...I reply to the rest tommorow... to tired to understand it now....

....lord stuffington lol :anime: No, I meen the peoples who say "This dub is bad due to it's production values, the Zolo thing, we can understand (L=R + Disney Sniping) but by god didn't they just put this show into hell in a hand basket)."

KasumiTen
07-06-2005, 10:31 AM
On another site (unlike this one because you guys are such sweeties) there was a discussion on the Last Exile extras. I asked if a paper airplane was included as they had been in the past. You would have thought that I had jabbed an icepick into their eyes. It's a Vanship!!!!! Not a paper airplane. To which they began to expose their knowledge (and ignorance).

I also get very tired of hearing those who are planning their whole lives around their big move to Japan to break in to the anime or manga business when the chances of that ever happening are a big zero. Not to offend anyone, but while I would not mind a vacation to Japan, it's the last place I would want to live.

Chrono1995
07-06-2005, 10:39 AM
There's two particular fans I'm not fond of:

1. The kind that carry around massive (we're talking War and Peace thick) folders of yaoi and parade them around and show them off to everyone. This coupled with the incessant giggling at Ren-Kyu doing naughty things makes me want to skip the choking and just bring out the chainsaw.

2. Naruto is becoming the new Inuyasha very fast. As usual, it's fans are more devoted than Oprah's cult, and yet they still can't give me a single reason why the show is good beyond "it has ninjas, and ninjas are better than pirates." Woe be to the Naruto fan who dares to insult One Piece. Worse yet, woe be to the Naruto fan when he wakes up and finds his show of choice to have collapsed into the repetitive nature that gave DBZ a bad name.

Funkatron
07-06-2005, 11:04 AM
What I hate:

People who think all anime is good
People who think all anime is mature
People who think all anime is for kiddies
Pure dubbies
Pure subbies
Rabid Shippers, especially the Yaoi/yuri kind and especially if its 2 unrelated characters that don't have any interaction whatsoever.
Rabid DBZ fans who think its the best thing to come out of Japan
Fangirls(synominous with yaoi shippers)"OMG Heero yui and Duo should sooo be a couple!"
Baaaaaaaaaaad cosplayers
"You don't like this anime? you suck!"
"You like that anime? You suck!"
"Thats so KAWAAIII!!!!!!"
Wait one more: People who hate a show with a passion, yet still watch it, despite not liking it and are the first to complain about an episode of said show.
If you don't like the show DON'T WATCH IT!
hmm..did I miss anything?

Elven Moon
07-06-2005, 12:06 PM
I'm an anime fangirl. I also love yaoi and yuri. Not only that, I add Japanese words into English sentences to help me progress with my Japanese.

So, according to many of you, it's wrong for the Japanese to add English words into Japanese sentences? I take it MANY of you haven't seen anime in Japanese.

Think before you speak.
Actually, I use Japanese myself, sometimes. It's when they overdo it and the person doesn't really know what they're saying that I can get kinda annoyed.

I've seen this done in fanfiction, too. The author will have characters speak RANDOM Japanese, and doesn't even bother to tell us what they're saying. And it seems out of place.

Tash
07-06-2005, 12:25 PM
The only real way learn to learn Japanese is to take a class or buy tapes. Adding a word or two to your sentences won't really help you unelss you have a solid background in Japense. Just like a Japanese girl can't learn English just by throwing a few random words around. She too has to take classes or buy some kind self teaching system. I'm not saying you don't have a solid background in it but if you really want to use it right it best to learn it the right way.

Also I watch my anime in mostly subs yes they do sometimes say a word or two of english but from what I've seen it's not a lot. Also sometimes a songs will have some english in it.
My point when I'm talking to someone I don't want to hear Japense being used just because. I love anime but I keep it all in prespective.It kind of depends. If you are learning Japanese (or any other language) from a class/tape, and you're having a bit of a problem, it does help if you toss a word that you're having problems remembering. I had to do that, because I kept having to struggle to remember the word "Wakarimasu" when I started. I admit that I had to toss it around in place of the English version of the word before I could make the connection without hesitating.

But then again, I never did it in public, just around my siblings.

BrendaBat
07-06-2005, 12:43 PM
There was this one funny incident I had with a Disney-basher Otaku. She was going on about how Disney was evil, how Disney had ripped off Kimba and Nadia, how Disney was too kiddy, etc. I stupidly tried to defend Disney and she went on a rant about how happy endings aren’t realistic and how cool anime is because it can be dark. I then asked, “If you hate happy endings so much, then why do you watch happy, light-hearted stuff like Slayers and Pokemon?”. Her frenzied attempt to explain how dark Pokemon actually is was quite amusing.:D

And I always get a giggle out of the people who assume Japanese animation companies will line up to recruit them once they’ve learned to perfectly emulate the “How to Draw Manga” style. Though it stops being funny and starts being sad when the delusion continues past high school.


Origionally posted by Sailor Chibi Otaku
I'm an anime fangirl. I also love yaoi and yuri. Not only that, I add Japanese words into English sentences to help me progress with my Japanese. I’m pretty sure English (or Engrish) words being integrated into Japanese is more of a general slang thing than a product of fandom for the good ol’ U S of A. English speakers use foreign words all the time without even thinking about it (like “rendez-vous” and “deja-vu” for example). It doesn’t make us any more knowledgeable about foreign languages. If you really want to learn Japanese, take a class or buy one of those home teaching kits. A friend of mine is in a Japanese class and, according to her, its an EXTREMELY difficult language to learn. You’ll never learn to speak it properly if all you do is watch subs and use Japanese slang.
Also, as someone who has been studying French for years, I find that using whole sentences is far more educational than just tossing around random bon mots.


Origionally posted by Sailor Chibi Otaku
So, according to many of you, it's wrong for the Japanese to add English words into Japanese sentences? I take it MANY of you haven't seen anime in Japanese. I have seen lots of subtitled anime. And, if you ever listen to the j-pop that accompanies many animes, you’d see exactly why learning a language via using random words is a VERY bad idea. :p


Origionally posted by Funkatron
Wait one more: People who hate a show with a passion, yet still watch it, despite not liking it and are the first to complain about an episode of said show.
If you don't like the show DON'T WATCH IT!To be fair, that kind of masochistic fandom is just as (if not more) prevalent among Simpsons and DCAU fans than it is among otakus. I stopped frequenting JLU talkbacks mostly because of those types of people.

Hordesman
07-06-2005, 12:58 PM
The real appeal of Naruto is in this: Naruto's graffiti on the Hokage monument, the test whose objective is to cheat without getting caught, etc. Now, there's plenty of wish-fulfillment in manga and anime. Yoh's ghostly "tutors" in the manga version of Shaman King, anyone? But Naruto is relentless, the ultimate slacker punk fantasy.That's what I'm sure is the basis of ********ation.

Neo Yi
07-06-2005, 05:38 PM
People who have insulted me for liking the English dub and music for Dragonball Z. Comments I've received : "You're not a true fan" "Funimation is evil; you're evil".


People like that gets on my nerve, too, so I share your pain.
~Neo

Beat
07-06-2005, 05:51 PM
Universal hate for dubs, no matter the language. Spanish DBZ helped me become fluent in Spanish. Don't like it? TOO BAD!

Golgo13
07-06-2005, 05:55 PM
Oh, pretty much all fangirls and those who think voice actors are gods.

Last anime convention I went to, the guy who does the dub voice of Roy Mustang overheard me bashing FMA late night at the consuite. He came over and started retorting. Some other people looked at me like "do you know who you are talking to?" I soon found out who he was, but I didn't care and stood by my comments especially when some young fangirl just stratled him and started kissing him.

Ever wanted to commit something worse than genocide?

Matt-a-Tastic
07-06-2005, 06:06 PM
You know, though out the course of this thread I think wev'e probally covered just about every otaku in the world :anime:

So, according to many of you, it's wrong for the Japanese to add English words into Japanese sentences? I take it MANY of you haven't seen anime in Japanese.0_o Come on, everyones seen anime in Japanese

Why do you allways have to go so over the top with a I'm-better-than-everyone-else atitude Its really starting to grate ¬__¬

Luna
07-06-2005, 07:06 PM
I personally dislike...

Subtitle only people A.K.A dub bashers....Not all of them,mind you,...Just the ones that either tell you you're an idiot if you like dubs,or the ones who claim to hate the dub of a series,yet watch it just to complain about how the dub company "butchered" it(Jeez...if you don't like it,don't watch....)

Fangirls/Fanboys....Anime characters are NOT real!!!!.....and as much as I like some voice actors/actresses,I don't think they deserve worship(Respect,yes,worship,no...)

Disney/American cartoon bashers....Anime isn't automatically better than American shows,and in fact,there are several I think are better than most anime(Disney's Gargolyes and Futurama for example)...

I.R Joey
07-06-2005, 08:11 PM
Brendabat's right on with the English in J-Pop stuff. I was just watching the ever so J-Pop filled Bubblegum Crisis today (the 80's one) and it's filled with random English words in the various songs.

Yeah I have my complaints about some anime fans, but lets face it many of us were those people a few years back so lets not get to judgemental people mature with time.

Vagrant
07-06-2005, 09:07 PM
I choke the kind of fanboys who post fanboy hate threads. Nothing good can come of them.

Zerla
07-06-2005, 09:26 PM
Even worse are the people that say it was made by satan (http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/SailorMoon.htm) and say it's racist (http://www.bulbagarden.net/~dogasu/bashing/racist_jynx_01.html.) .

Tay the Cat
07-06-2005, 09:53 PM
The 4Kids loyalists, especially those who still defend the One Piece dub.

[Don_East]

I know of a guy who fits that description, and he's quite cool.

I'm a FUNimation loyalist myself.

I personally can't stand people who bash dubs for petty reasons.

Timmay
07-06-2005, 10:21 PM
One Piece dub was mangled, not a petty reason.

I want to strangle the people who listen to j-pop who aren't from Japan and don't speak japanese. Then try to convince me that it's good. This person falls under the "everything from Japan is good" otaku

Tay the Cat
07-06-2005, 10:35 PM
One Piece dub was mangled, not a petty reason.

I know. I don't like it either, but I don't bash it like it's the end of the world that it was butchered.


I want to strangle the people who listen to j-pop who aren't from Japan and don't speak japanese. Then try to convince me that it's good. This person falls under the "everything from Japan is good" otaku

Actually, j-pop is superior to American music in every possible way.

Karl Olson
07-06-2005, 10:48 PM
You know, I think I'm closing this thread before it becomes a blood bath.

Cause it's getting there.

Sorry guys and gals. :sweat: