View Full Version : Slave Labor Graphics to publish 'Gargoyles' comic book
randomguy
06-05-2005, 09:05 PM
That's right, according to Heidi MacDonald's "The Beat" comic book news blog, Slave Labor Graphics and Disney have signed an agreement to produce a Gargoyles comic book (http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/archives/2005/06/bea_day_1.html).
Good news? Greg Weisman's gonna write it. More info should be coming later.
Thoughts?
Chad Bonin
06-05-2005, 09:12 PM
Wow.
This is Willie C. Maune's wedding gift.
Sandoz
06-05-2005, 10:19 PM
Wow, that's a real surprise. I can't wait to hear more about this.
dreamofdragon
06-05-2005, 10:44 PM
Yea, thats great
King_of_doom
06-05-2005, 10:47 PM
lets see what happens,i think they would do a good job doing the comic.
GregX
06-05-2005, 10:57 PM
I sent Greg an e-mail asking him about it, hopefully he'll confirm it's true.
wonderfly
06-05-2005, 10:59 PM
Hey, wasn't there an actual Gargoyles comic published by Marvel back in the mid 90's when the cartoon was actually on the air? I think it only lasted for 9 issues or so...
Was that comic written by Greg Weisman as well? I think I'm definently going to have to keep my eye out for this comic, especially if it serves as an "official sequel", (since it appears we're never going to get another Gargoyles cartoon). :)
GregX
06-05-2005, 11:03 PM
Marvel published in Gargoyles comic in the mid 90s that lasted eleven issues. Unfortunatly Greg didn't write the comic, and I personally thought the comic book sucked. Even more unfortunate, Greg was gearing up to take over writing the comic, before Marvel axed it.
This announcement has officially made my day ten times happier.
Hordesman
06-06-2005, 02:07 AM
Awesome! Here's hoping this one's got better art!
Artimus Gigan
06-06-2005, 02:50 AM
Yay, now I'll wait for the TPB...
Knightmare
06-06-2005, 07:42 AM
Marvel published in Gargoyles comic in the mid 90s that lasted eleven issues. Unfortunatly Greg didn't write the comic, and I personally thought the comic book sucked. Even more unfortunate, Greg was gearing up to take over writing the comic, before Marvel axed it.I enjoyed the comic, but correct if I'm didn't Greg start co-plotting the comic towards the end of it, I'll have to check my copies of the comics when I get home.
The real reason that the comic got canceled was that Marvel had money problems and eventually filed for Bankruptcy, so that they cancled all of thier licensed books including Gargoyles, Power Rangers and Ren & Stimpy.
But onto this news, I think this great brand new Gargoyles material writen by, maybe if both it and the DVD box sets continue to really well, we can get brand new direct to DVD Gargoyles movies.
Spider-Man
06-06-2005, 01:56 PM
If you're looking for information on the old Gargoyles comic you can find some answers in the thread linked below. There should be some links and information about the old Marvel comic in there.
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=128665
I am really excited about this new comic. I wonder how Greg Weisman is going to approach this. I can see this becoming a dark natural extension of the cartoon. Do you think it will acknowledge Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles?
GregX
06-06-2005, 05:08 PM
If you're looking for information on the old Gargoyles comic you can find some answers in the thread linked below. There should be some links and information about the old Marvel comic in there.
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=128665
I am really excited about this new comic. I wonder how Greg Weisman is going to approach this. I can see this becoming a dark natural extension of the cartoon. Do you think it will acknowledge Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles?
Since Greg is writing it, aside from "The Journey", I highly, highly doubt he's going to acknowledge those episodes.
Knightmare
06-06-2005, 05:35 PM
Since Greg is writing it, aside from "The Journey", I highly, highly doubt he's going to acknowledge those episodes.
I've never understood why people hate the Golitah Chronicles so much, I mean they weren't anywhere as good as the main serious but they were kinda enjoyable. Plus while it wasn't the greatest ending in the world I greatly enjoyed the ending for GC and have wondered how things would have gone from there.
Fone Bone
06-06-2005, 05:42 PM
While I'm definately interested in a Gargoyles comic book since it's in a completely different medium I will NEVER consider it cannonical to the series (even over The Goliath Chronicles). I really hope that we get Gargoyles DTVs and spin-offs soon. Imagine what Greg could do with another 65 episodes. Here's hoping this leads to this.
GregX
06-06-2005, 06:02 PM
I've never understood why people hate the Golitah Chronicles so much, I mean they weren't anywhere as good as the main serious but they were kinda enjoyable. Plus while it wasn't the greatest ending in the world I greatly enjoyed the ending for GC and have wondered how things would have gone from there.
Poorly written, poorly animated, dumbed down. The new staff had no idea what they were doing. They completely simplified things.
As for the ending, it was hokey and the only way to accept that would be if the Quarrymen did acknowledge that gargoyles were noble protectors. The very basis of that organization is extremists wanting to protect their own from this new demonic menace. Their leader John Castaway was Jon Canmore, and he himself was certain at the very end of Hunter's Moon that gargoyles were evil demons. But the new writers turned them into a Friends of Humanity rip-off.
And honesly, it was all too simple. Too easy. It wasn't dramatic, it was nothing like we'd come to expect from the first two seasons. Prejudice would never die, Greg planned for gargoyles to still be only tolerated by 2198.
Among other problems were characters behaving completely out of character. Goliath tossing off witty one-liners. Xanatos being a nice guy. Demona working with the Quarrymen.
I could keep going, and going, and going.
UberMonkey
06-06-2005, 06:33 PM
Wow. This is totally awesome news. I'm sure when I tell my hardcore Gargoylr-fan friend, he'll freak out.
I wonder who the artist will be?
EDIT: Tron comics too, eh? Sweet.
Conekiller
06-06-2005, 09:23 PM
Great news. I hope the art doesn't try to make it "gritty" like the Marvel book did. It made the Gargs look more like monsters.
I'll buy em all! hell I still have the original 11 somewhere.......
VidanTiger
06-07-2005, 01:08 AM
I only started getting in to Gargoyles with the release of the 1st season DVD set, so it's pretty exciting for me to see something new coming out.
Chad Bonin
06-07-2005, 01:12 AM
While I'm definately interested in a Gargoyles comic book since it's in a completely different medium I will NEVER consider it cannonical to the series (even over The Goliath Chronicles). I really hope that we get Gargoyles DTVs and spin-offs soon. Imagine what Greg could do with another 65 episodes. Here's hoping this leads to this.
Any reason why? Turbo: APRM movie was a movie, yet was a bridge between Zeo and Turbo TV. Toonami had online comics explaining why we now hav TOM3.
And .hack has like fifty gillion mediums in-continuity,
Fone Bone
06-07-2005, 01:25 AM
Any reason why? Turbo: APRM movie was a movie, yet was a bridge between Zeo and Turbo TV. Toonami had online comics explaining why we now hav TOM3.
And .hack has like fifty gillion mediums in-continuity,A movie is something I consider in the same medium as televsion (moving pictures). I don't really have a good reason for it it's just the way I am. I won't consider it "real" until it's on the screen.
Chad Bonin
06-07-2005, 02:43 AM
Well, that's awkward. The events of Clone Wars both in comic and animated forum are in continuity with the Star Wars comics, which are in continuity with the movie series, which are in continuity with the upcoming television shows, which are in relative continuity with the games.
Likewise, the .hack world consists of animation, comics, video games...
DTaina
06-07-2005, 03:55 PM
We still don't have a confirmation from Greg himself, but here's an article with more details about the Gargoyles comic book:
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/6994.html
BrendaBat
06-07-2005, 04:17 PM
When I saw this news on the front page of TZ, I jumped and squealed like the immature little fangirl that I am (and frightened my parents, too). :D
I can't wait for this series to come out!!
Origionally posted by Fone Bone
While I'm definately interested in a Gargoyles comic book since it's in a completely different medium I will NEVER consider it cannonical to the series (even over The Goliath Chronicles). I really hope that we get Gargoyles DTVs and spin-offs soon. Imagine what Greg could do with another 65 episodes. Here's hoping this leads to this.I agree with you here, Fone Bone. I'm going to look at the Gargoyles comics the same way I look at the comic books based on Batman:TAS. I love them. Reading them makes me feel like I'm watching Batman:TAS again. But trying to link their continunity with the TV show would just make my head hurt. :sweat:
Though if a DTV and/or a new season of Gargoyles is made and Greg Weisman specifically says "this is linked to the comic continuity"; then I'll change my tune.
Origionally posted by Knux Five
Well, that's awkward. The events of Clone Wars both in comic and animated forum are in continuity with the Star Wars comics, which are in continuity with the movie series, which are in continuity with the upcoming television shows, which are in relative continuity with the games.
Likewise, the .hack world consists of animation, comics, video games...Yeah, and thats why I never liked .hack very much. If I have to buy four games, a bunch of manga, and watch two or three different TV shows to understand what the hell is going on; then being a fan is just too darn expensive! :p
I admit, the games were pretty fun. But I only played them because they were free (my friend loaned them to me) and my friend explained all the stuff that confused me.
Conekiller
06-07-2005, 05:08 PM
When I saw this news on the front page of TZ, I jumped and squealed like the immature little fangirl that I am (and frightened my parents, too). :D
I can't wait for this series to come out!!
I agree with you here, Fone Bone. I'm going to look at the Gargoyles comics the same way I look at the comic books based on Batman:TAS. I love them. Reading them makes me feel like I'm watching Batman:TAS again. But trying to link their continunity with the TV show would just make my head hurt. :sweat:
Though if a DTV and/or a new season of Gargoyles is made and Greg Weisman specifically says "this is linked to the comic continuity"; then I'll change my tune. The comics came out between season 1 and 2, so I assume that's where they fit. Plus it introduced the Fox Xanatos relationship (IE it valitadted it, as opposed to Fox's slightly psychotic "he's the mot brilliant man on the face of the earth)
Yeah, and thats why I never liked .hack very much. If I have to buy four games, a bunch of manga, and watch two or three different TV shows to understand what the hell is going on; then being a fan is just too darn expensive! :p
I admit, the games were pretty fun. But I only played them because they were free (my friend loaned them to me) and my friend explained all the stuff that confused me.
off topic: the .hack mediums were all independant of each other, story-wise. but overall formed one continuity. but yes, very expensive to be a fan of O_o
GregX
06-07-2005, 09:25 PM
I'm less of a medium guy and more of a creative team kind of guy. So yeah, I'll view this comic series as canon unless Greg says otherwise. The whole series is his baby afterall.
Another example is Beast Wars. There was almost a continuation of Beast Wars as a comic book before Dreamwave went under, and Simon Furman (who wrote for Beast Wars) was going to write it. It didn't happen, but I would have accepted that as canon over the horrid "Beast Machines" sequel.
THough yeah, as a comic book reader, creative team changes are something I'm used to. And there are many acceptions. I'm certain the Gargoyles comic will be a lot better than TGC was. So, I'll regard that as canon, but not TGC.
wonderfly
06-08-2005, 12:14 AM
We still don't have a confirmation from Greg himself, but here's an article with more details about the Gargoyles comic book:
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/6994.htmlHmmm...taken from that website is the following bit:
"The SLG Gargoyles comic series will feature contributions from the creators of the 36-episode Gargoyles animated series, who came to Disney with the idea of creating a Gargoyles comic book and were referred to SLG. The bi-monthly Gargoyles comic series will launch in December or January as a full color comic with a 3.50 cover price."
36 episodes?!? By who's count? ;)
We have official "cautiously optomistic" confirmation from Greg!
http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/latest.php
And he's the ONLY WRITER! This just keeps getting better and better...
Apparently Slave Labor Graphics is also attempting to license three other properties from Disney: HAUNTED MANSION, ALICE IN WONDERLAND, and TRON.
:)
N
Hatter
06-09-2005, 09:41 AM
Sounds good.
Problem is, Slave Labor Graphics is a very small publisher. My two local comic shops barely have one or two titles from them on the shelves.
So fans are gonna have to track this one down. It'll be hard for this comic to be a "massive success" since it'll probably never see a drugstore magazine rack, or any other mainstream store. Although SLG might get some sort of distribution boost from Disney.
Should be a good read, though.
Knightmare
06-09-2005, 10:38 AM
Sounds good.
Problem is, Slave Labor Graphics is a very small publisher. My two local comic shops barely have one or two titles from them on the shelves.
So fans are gonna have to track this one down. It'll be hard for this comic to be a "massive success" since it'll probably never see a drugstore magazine rack, or any other mainstream store. Although SLG might get some sort of distribution boost from Disney.
Should be a good read, though.
That's true the comic versions ofTransfomers, Masters of the Universe and Ghostbusters were extremly well writen and had great art but suffered because of how small thier publishers were. But on the other hand G.I. JOE has prospered under Devil's Due, so I'd say it has more to do with the skills of both the creative teams and the people that run the office too.
The only thing kinda bothers me is the whole still set in 1996 thing. I was kinda hoping it would be set in present day, kind of like how the first season was; were there was all this mystery as to what had happened inbetween the time the Gargoyles slept and when they awoke. Still I'm really looking forward to it and already plan on putting it on my pull list.
Ed Liu
06-09-2005, 11:51 AM
Howdy,
Sounds good.
Problem is, Slave Labor Graphics is a very small publisher. My two local comic shops barely have one or two titles from them on the shelves.
So fans are gonna have to track this one down. It'll be hard for this comic to be a "massive success" since it'll probably never see a drugstore magazine rack, or any other mainstream store. Although SLG might get some sort of distribution boost from Disney.
Should be a good read, though.
The one and only solution on a personal level is to pre-order the comic when it's solicited. Generally, this means you gotta put in word to your Friendly Neighborhood Comic Shop to order the comic for you 2 months in advance of its street date. Retailers are now accepting orders for comics shipping in August, for instance.
If your retailer doesn't let you pre-order a comic, then they're a crappy retailer and you should probably find a new one. They are essentially turning away guaranteed business, demonstrating a poor grasp of customer satisfaction at the very least.
On a larger level, Disney may get the comic into their newsstand distribution products or bookstore markets. However, attempting to do a smash-hit comic in a market where sales of 250,000 are the current high water mark is kind of a losing game.
-- Ed/Ace
Matt Hazuda
06-09-2005, 04:06 PM
Slave Labor does really well in the TPB market. I always see a copy of JtHM or Squee at the bookstore.
Also, my shop does do Diamond if you're special ordering, but otherwise they just have a general reserve list where you can ask for anything and they'll get it for you. Much easier than having to fill out an order sheet every month.
Fone Bone
06-09-2005, 05:02 PM
The only thing kinda bothers me is the whole still set in 1996 thing. I was kinda hoping it would be set in present day, kind of like how the first season was; were there was all this mystery as to what had happened inbetween the time the Gargoyles slept and when they awoke. If they ever restart the series I definately WOULD like the first season of it to be set in 1996. After a couple of years or so it would be awesome to flashforward ten years but I'm insanely curious what ACTUALLY happened right after Hunter's Moon.
Paul_Cousins
06-09-2005, 05:44 PM
We have official "cautiously optomistic" confirmation from Greg!
http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/latest.php
And he's the ONLY WRITER! This just keeps getting better and better...
Apparently Slave Labor Graphics is also attempting to license three other properties from Disney: HAUNTED MANSION, ALICE IN WONDERLAND, and TRON.
:)
NHALALOYA!!!! And Greg Weisman is writing it, YES!!!!!!!!!!! :zim:
Just show me where online I can order it when it comes out and I'll buy a copy. :cool:
Gargoyles Season 1 DVD Boxset most have sold extremely well for Disney to allow a comic series for it.
We might have a continuation of the series YET!! :zim:
P.S. And we get a Tron comic as well. :zim:
King_of_doom
06-09-2005, 05:49 PM
P.S. And we get a Tron comic as well. :zim:
if you buy Army of darkness:shop till you drop dead#3 you gonna see some Tron reference.
Paul_Cousins
06-09-2005, 05:58 PM
if you buy Army of darkness:shop till you drop dead#3 you gonna see some Tron reference.I have been meaning to buy the AoD comics, but I am currently broke. :sweat: But I will buy them someday. :cool:
Anyway, from the 'Ask Greg' section, the plan is Greg Weisman himself is the ONLY WRITER on the comic and he plans to pick up right where "Hunter's Moon" leaves off in 1996.
If this deal goes through, we will get Greg W's continued vision of The Gargoyles series. :zim:
Darking
06-09-2005, 06:20 PM
P.S. And we get a Tron comic as well. :zim:
I actually picked up on this statement as well. I kind of wonder which part of the Tron timeline will be shown: The original 1980s period or the Tron 2.0 saga?
GregX
06-10-2005, 01:25 PM
So now Newsarama has an article up too.
http://www.newsarama.com/SLG/Disney/Vado_Disney.html
Paul_Cousins
06-10-2005, 01:31 PM
So now Newsarama has an article up too.
http://www.newsarama.com/SLG/Disney/Vado_Disney.html The plan seems to be a full colored comic with a bi-monthly release (24 issues a year) starting this December or January, with each issue being priced out $3.50.
With Issue #1 picking up right where the "Hunter's Moon" Trilogy leaves off.
This sounds good to me. :zim:
Chad Bonin
06-10-2005, 01:41 PM
The plan seems to be a full colored comic with a bi-monthly release (24 issues a year) starting this December or January, with each issue being priced out $3.50.
Bi-Monthly would be every two months, leading to six issues a year. Bi-Weekly would be every other week, with 24 issues a year.
Given that most comics are monthly, I'd assume it's bi-monthly with 6 a year.
Paul_Cousins
06-10-2005, 09:39 PM
Bi-Monthly would be every two months, leading to six issues a year. Bi-Weekly would be every other week, with 24 issues a year.
Given that most comics are monthly, I'd assume it's bi-monthly with 6 a year.Thank you Mr. Terminology. But "Bi-Weekly" would mean 26 issues a year, 52 weeks in a year, a issue every two weeks comes to 26 issues a year. :p
Chad Bonin
06-11-2005, 02:17 AM
You state "bi-monthly" and "26 issues per year".
That breaks my brain.
Spider-Man
07-09-2005, 04:43 PM
Has there been any update on this comic? Have they decided on are artist? Will they acknowledge the only episode of Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles that Greg Weisman wrote?
GregX
07-09-2005, 05:35 PM
Has there been any update on this comic? Have they decided on are artist? Will they acknowledge the only episode of Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles that Greg Weisman wrote?Wait for the Gathering, Greg Weisman will announce it all soon.
That being said, I do know that they have a penciller and who it will be, but as it hasn't been officially announced yet, I'm not at liberty to say who it is.
I am very sure though that Greg Weisman is just going to ignore TGC.
Also, Greg's doing a panel at ComiCon with Slave Labor Graphics, so we can look forward to more 411 there. I think it's on Saturday...
ThePeterNetwork
07-16-2005, 12:55 PM
December or January, eh? Should we start pre-ordering our books now, or check on Amazon? Would they sell comics? I know they do TPB's.
GregX
07-16-2005, 01:03 PM
December or January, eh? Should we start pre-ordering our books now, or check on Amazon? Would they sell comics? I know they do TPB's.
Amazon doesn't sell comics. Graphic novels, yes. Comics, no.
The first bit of art was shown yesterday, my friend took a picture. When I get her permission, I will post it here.
GregX
07-16-2005, 03:17 PM
Alright, first art from the Slave Labor booth. Photo taken by my good friend, CrzyDemona. And shown here with her permission.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/ComicCon200520056s.jpg
ClockStomper
07-16-2005, 09:21 PM
:eek: That's so good...just had a geek-gasm!
creativerealms
07-17-2005, 12:07 AM
Wiesman only counts the first episode of Gc as Canon and frankly I agree with him. There for the Quarry Men themselves may very well be in this comic.
Anyway this is great news Greg can finally continue his Gargoyles story line. He still has so many ideas for it.
KWKeller
07-17-2005, 02:16 AM
Alright, first art from the Slave Labor booth. Photo taken by my good friend, CrzyDemona. And shown here with her permission.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/ComicCon200520056s.jpg Finally, we have confirmation. But did they say how many pages the comics are going to be? If it is going to be released bimonthly (as in six a year), I hope that they'll have a rather high page count. Otherwise, they won't be able to cover much ground each year.
GregX
07-17-2005, 03:47 AM
I don't know if I would call this news, I got it second hand, as I wasn't at the panel. My info mostly came from my friends IRC Goliath and CrzyDemona.
"The Journey" is definetly canon, the rest of TGC is out. The first story will take place after Hunter's Moon. But Greg has yet to decide where and how he will fit "The Journey" in. So, we'll wait and see.
The comic will take place right after hunter's moon part 3 and will not re-tell the previous series but will be structured in such a way that people who haven't seen the show before will not be lost or confused. i.e. reintroducing people/character/back story on an as needed basis.
I know, not much. But several comics were under discussion at the Slave Labor panel.
I'm sure more info will come at the 2005 Gathering in Las Vegas in two weeks. I'll be sure to give you guys a full report.
BTW, that art piece I posted before was drawn by Greg Guler. Who was one of the lead character designers. And will either be the penciller on the comic or the Art Director.
Spider-Man
07-18-2005, 07:21 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/ComicCon200520056s.jpg
Wow GregX! That is some beautiful artwork. I think I'm gonna have to call ahead right now to make sure I get this book on my pull list. That looks just excellent! I'm not sure why it clicks so well but it just does. And thanks for the extra info on when this comic will take place. So does this mean the comic will take place in the 1990s or will it be moved into current day? If I remember correctly dates were always sort of important in the show. I just can't get over that cover art!
Starlioness
07-18-2005, 08:42 AM
looks pretty good, nice to see Elisa in a change of clothes once in while , though I'm not fond of stripes :p.. still can't wait to see this baby :)
GregX
07-18-2005, 02:05 PM
Wow GregX! That is some beautiful artwork. I think I'm gonna have to call ahead right now to make sure I get this book on my pull list. That looks just excellent! I'm not sure why it clicks so well but it just does. And thanks for the extra info on when this comic will take place. So does this mean the comic will take place in the 1990s or will it be moved into current day? If I remember correctly dates were always sort of important in the show. I just can't get over that cover art!
Greg is mostly going to pick up where he left off and move forward. Obviously he needs to re-introduce all the characters, but as he said, the third season he's always planned and onward.
That being said, there will probably be no dates printed in the book so as not to confuse new readers. There's always Ask Greg for details like that.
ThePeterNetwork
07-19-2005, 07:33 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/ComicCon200520056s.jpg
I must have this. Can you confirm the publishing date again for me? I want to be sure to stop by my comics shop and spot this one before they sell out like Forbidden Planet "claims" to do every single time I visit, and that hasn't been lately.
GregX
07-19-2005, 07:55 PM
I must have this. Can you confirm the publishing date again for me? I want to be sure to stop by my comics shop and spot this one before they sell out like Forbidden Planet "claims" to do every single time I visit, and that hasn't been lately.
December or January. Not sure just yet.
Conekiller
07-23-2005, 12:09 AM
Awww yeah, that peice of artwork has me salivating already! (I hated the art in the old Marvel Run)
this is gonna be so great!
Paul_Cousins
07-23-2005, 02:23 AM
Alright, first art from the Slave Labor booth. Photo taken by my good friend, CrzyDemona. And shown here with her permission.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/ComicCon200520056s.jpgNOW THAT IS A GUT'SY POSTER!! :zim:
Elisa in a tiger-striped dress, gun blazing, with Goliath holding her and TAKING TWO BULLETS TO HIS LEFT WING!! OUCH!! :cool:
I hope that this will be a great comic. :cool:
Spider-Man
11-16-2005, 10:23 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/ComicCon200520056s.jpg
Has there been any new news on this comic? Is it still going to start in December or is it pushed to early 2006? I am really looking forward to this and I hope the first issue is a nice double-sized event!
Doz Hewson
11-17-2005, 02:29 PM
As I look at the SL booth pic,something is seriously having me off:this Elisa
rendition.She looks something between "yalla" and White.Let yourselves be
told of "Gargoyles" from a Black perspective. To me,"Gargoyles" wasn't only
of said race/their life,but also of Elisa and her family:A bunch of darkskinned
(except Beth) proud Afrikan/Indigenous people,tough,intelligent,industrious,
and taking crap from nobody,NonWhite or White,Human or NonHuman.
A deethnized "Gargoyles" would be to me highly offensive,and would be
nothing this intensely proud Brother would....purchase.
Woan well....There're always the DVDs,which I'll in the near future....purchase.
Clayface
11-17-2005, 02:35 PM
Has there been any new news on this comic? Is it still going to start in December or is it pushed to early 2006?
According to their website (http://www.slavelabor.com/index2.html), issue #1 is "tentatively scheduled for June 2006."
Conekiller
11-17-2005, 04:14 PM
As I look at the SL booth pic,something is seriously having me off:this Elisa
rendition.She looks something between "yalla" and White.Let yourselves be
told of "Gargoyles" from a Black perspective. To me,"Gargoyles" wasn't only
of said race/their life,but also of Elisa and her family:A bunch of darkskinned
(except Beth) proud Afrikan/Indigenous people,tough,intelligent,industrious,
and taking crap from nobody,NonWhite or White,Human or NonHuman.
A deethnized "Gargoyles" would be to me highly offensive,and would be
nothing this intensely proud Brother would....purchase.
Woan well....There're always the DVDs,which I'll in the near future....purchase.
So...you won't buy this comic...cuz of Elisa's skin color?
Nice. :shrug:
BlackoutCreature
11-17-2005, 05:35 PM
may
As I look at the SL booth pic,something is seriously having me off:this Elisa
rendition.She looks something between "yalla" and White.Let yourselves be
told of "Gargoyles" from a Black perspective. To me,"Gargoyles" wasn't only
of said race/their life,but also of Elisa and her family:A bunch of darkskinned
(except Beth) proud Afrikan/Indigenous people,tough,intelligent,industrious,
and taking crap from nobody,NonWhite or White,Human or NonHuman.
A deethnized "Gargoyles" would be to me highly offensive,and would be
nothing this intensely proud Brother would....purchase.
Woan well....There're always the DVDs,which I'll in the near future....purchase.Well Goliath's skintone looks a bit off too (he's usually a darker shade of blue), so who knows.
DTaina
11-17-2005, 09:06 PM
Well Goliath's skintone looks a bit off too (he's usually a darker shade of blue), so who knows. Goliath is purple (lavender, to be exact). His color on the picture looks on-model to me.
As for Elisa's skin color looking off... I seriously doubt it was intentional. It's been so long that maybe Greg Guler forgot she's darker. Personally, I'm buying the comics when they come out because I want to see more stories with those characters, not because I want to look at their skin color.
Color errors are bound to happen anyway. It's not that big a deal. Heck, we're getting new Gargoyles stories after eight years! TGC will be officially cast aside to make way for the real season three! I can't wait!
J-Ranger
11-17-2005, 09:32 PM
This would be so awesome. I can't wait to read it if it happens
Harlan_Phoenix
11-17-2005, 10:05 PM
Color errors are bound to happen anyway. It's not that big a deal. Heck, we're getting new Gargoyles stories after eight years! TGC will be officially cast aside to make way for the real season three! I can't wait!
Yep!
But this raises the question...
If this comic is successful enough, could the entire Master Plan be done in a comic book universe?
wonderfly
11-18-2005, 01:44 AM
According to their website (http://www.slavelabor.com/index2.html), issue #1 is "tentatively scheduled for June 2006."
And it was originally scheduled for December '05/January '06?? Ah, so this is going to be one of those comics...I might wait for the trade, on this one...
Sandoz
11-18-2005, 02:00 AM
And it was originally scheduled for December '05/January '06?? Ah, so this is going to be one of those comics...I might wait for the trade, on this one... Yeah, this strikes me as an ill omen.
Clayface
11-18-2005, 09:10 AM
And it was originally scheduled for December '05/January '06?? Ah, so this is going to be one of those comics...I might wait for the trade, on this one...
I wouldn't use the delay of the first issue as an indicator of the delivery of the entire series. It may just be that the practicalities of sorting out the licensing and start-up took longer than anticipated. The real indicator will be how soon subsequent issues are released after the first one's out. Once they get started, things may roll along smoothly.
William C. Maune
11-18-2005, 09:56 AM
And it was originally scheduled for December '05/January '06?? Ah, so this is going to be one of those comics...I might wait for the trade, on this one...
I don't think it was every specifically scheduled for then. Instead, when Gargoyles and the other titles under this deal were announed, they planned to start releading them hopefully by the end of 2005. However, they meant the group of titles in general. They didn't mean that all of the titles would begin being released by the end of 2005ish. However, people seemed to run with it and assume Gargoyles would be here around the end of the year.
Basically, it won't be the first title out of the gate, but it is coming. There is no real delay. At the time these titles were announced they hadn't even started making them yet. Besides, it's better that they take the time to get it right rather than rush it to the market.
GregX
11-18-2005, 01:06 PM
Okay, first off, despite what some early articles said, "Gargoyles" was never, ever schedualed to ship December/January. Never. THat early date was a mistake, and I heard that straight from Greg Weisman and Dan Vado's mouths.
First half of 2006 is what they're shooting for, and Greg Weisman is a very hardworking professional. Don't worry.
Toonlover
12-20-2005, 07:08 PM
Tron in comics? With today´s computer coloring technology, It has to look good.
moumantai
12-20-2005, 09:56 PM
when i first saw the comercials for gargoyles i thought oh brother what a dumb thing to make a cartoon about but then after watching the first couple of episodes i was like wow what a great show lol
anyway since this comic is coming out does that mean there will be another season of gargoyles or will they just make a whole new series
i sure hope so and i hope everybody looks the same too
ThePeterNetwork
12-25-2005, 03:39 PM
I, too, am concerned with the release date of the Gargoyles comic book. I don't know what the release schedule is like for SLG, but to give you an idea, I'm still waiting for the second issue of Haunted Mansion. :sweat:
StarScream64
12-26-2005, 10:52 PM
anyway since this comic is coming out does that mean there will be another season of gargoyles or will they just make a whole new series
Last I heard, the new comic takes place where Gargoyles left off. I don't recall if it's right after the last ep of Gargoyles or after the first ep of The Goliath Chronicles. So this would be like a new third season. Maybe, between the DVD sales and the comic, it might just make Disney think about bringing Gargoyles back. Admittedly a long shot, but a shot nonetheless.
Paul_Cousins
12-27-2005, 01:28 AM
Last I heard, the new comic takes place where Gargoyles left off. I don't recall if it's right after the last ep of Gargoyles or after the first ep of The Goliath Chronicles. So this would be like a new third season. Maybe, between the DVD sales and the comic, it might just make Disney think about bringing Gargoyles back. Admittedly a long shot, but a shot nonetheless.From what I understand that has been reported and rumored, it will probably take place in the Gargoyles timeline, a couple of weeks to a couple of months after the "Hunter's Moon" Trilogy (Season Two Finally) in 1996 in the Gargoyles' series time.
This is very possible considering Greg Weisman (the creator of the Gargoyles series) left the production staff to TGC when they were in the middle of making episode 1 to that season (3).
GregX
12-27-2005, 12:54 PM
From what I understand that has been reported and rumored, it will probably take place in the Gargoyles timeline, a couple of weeks to a couple of months after the "Hunter's Moon" Trilogy (Season Two Finally) in 1996 in the Gargoyles' series time.
This is very possible considering Greg Weisman (the creator of the Gargoyles series) left the production staff to TGC when they were in the middle of making episode 1 to that season (3).It's taking place after "Hunter's Moon", and last I heard, Greg said the first issue was going to be an adaption of "The Journey" (the one episode he was involved with), though some things will be fixed, like Goliath gliding at the end when his wing was shot, and some scenes re-ordered.
After the first issue, we'll get the rest of Greg's third season and then, hopefully his fourth season, fifth season, sixth... etc, etc.
Paul_Cousins
12-27-2005, 01:25 PM
It's taking place after "Hunter's Moon", and last I heard, Greg said the first issue was going to be an adaption of "The Journey" (the one episode he was involved with), though some things will be fixed, like Goliath gliding at the end when his wing was shot, and some scenes re-ordered.
After the first issue, we'll get the rest of Greg's third season and then, hopefully his fourth season, fifth season, sixth... etc, etc.I hope so. :cool:
Anyway about "The Journey"...
If that episode is redone, I hope Puck as a larger role in it, like Greg Weisman wanted. Also, I seem to remember hearing rumor that Greg Weisman wanted to introduce in that episode a new 'fay' character/villian, the Egyptian trickster Seth/Sith (not sure how it is spelled).
Mr. Manager
12-27-2005, 01:30 PM
I am looking forward to all of the SLG/Disney comics, escpecially Wonderland. Although I was expecting Wonderland's art to be more like the movie.
GregX
12-27-2005, 03:41 PM
I hope so. :cool:
Anyway about "The Journey"...
If that episode is redone, I hope Puck as a larger role in it, like Greg Weisman wanted. Also, I seem to remember hearing rumor that Greg Weisman wanted to introduce in that episode a new 'fay' character/villian, the Egyptian trickster Seth/Sith (not sure how it is spelled).Um, Puck never had a role in "The Journey". The script turned out as he liked it, I used to own a copy of it. The only things that changed were the adding of the Goliath monologue and scenes being re-ordered and Goliath gliding off at the end.
And Greg has never talked about the Egyptian trickster, Seth. If Seth appears it would be because "All things are true", but Greg never talked about any concrete plans.
Paul_Cousins
12-27-2005, 04:41 PM
Um, Puck never had a role in "The Journey". The script turned out as he liked it, I used to own a copy of it. The only things that changed were the adding of the Goliath monologue and scenes being re-ordered and Goliath gliding off at the end.
And Greg has never talked about the Egyptian trickster, Seth. If Seth appears it would be because "All things are true", but Greg never talked about any concrete plans.Sorry, I was thinking of the episode, "Ransom".
Jimmy 345
12-29-2005, 10:30 PM
I am excited about new Gargoyles comics but I really hope they stay in continuity with the Goliath Chronicles. While that series was clearly inferior to the the original series it still had some good stories and I think trying to nulify it is a very bad idea.
Harlan_Phoenix
12-29-2005, 10:51 PM
I am excited about new Gargoyles comics but I really hope they stay in continuity with the Goliath Chronicles. While that series was clearly inferior to the the original series it still had some good stories and I think trying to nulify it is a very bad idea.
The Goliath Chronicles killed off someone Greg wanted to be a more major villain...so it's best to keep GC out of continuity.
Jimmy 345
12-30-2005, 12:08 AM
The Goliath Chronicles killed off someone Greg wanted to be a more major villain...so it's best to keep GC out of continuity.
What is so bad about killing off villians. Many Gargoyles fans have seen the Goliath Chronicles and don't hate it. I have never hated it. Some episodes were pretty good though I do agree its inferior to the original series. Personally Disney did not see all of Gargoyles potential. I don't think new animated episodes will ever come but there is always hope.
GregX
12-30-2005, 01:50 PM
What is so bad about killing off villians. Many Gargoyles fans have seen the Goliath Chronicles and don't hate it. I have never hated it. Some episodes were pretty good though I do agree its inferior to the original series. Personally Disney did not see all of Gargoyles potential. I don't think new animated episodes will ever come but there is always hope.Sorry to disappoint you, but Greg Weisman (the creator of the show, and the writer of the comic) has already said that "Goliath Chronicles" is not be included.
And that majot villain Greg had lots of plans for was Thailog. With TGC out, Thailog isn't dead. Yaye!
Jimmy 345
12-30-2005, 02:14 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, but Greg Weisman (the creator of the show, and the writer of the comic) has already said that "Goliath Chronicles" is not be included.
And that majot villain Greg had lots of plans for was Thailog. With TGC out, Thailog isn't dead. Yaye!
Well if this is true then I am very dissipointed and my excitement is lowered. Though I will still give it a read for the heck of it.
GregX
12-30-2005, 03:24 PM
Well if this is true then I am very dissipointed and my excitement is lowered. Though I will still give it a read for the heck of it.It's going to be the season 3 Greg Weisman always planned to do. At long last, the REAL season 3.
Harlan_Phoenix
12-30-2005, 04:24 PM
Well if this is true then I am very dissipointed and my excitement is lowered. Though I will still give it a read for the heck of it.
Thailog had awesome potential as a main villain. I doubt anyone will be disappointed with this comic.
BlackoutCreature
01-01-2006, 10:09 PM
How did The Goliath Chronicles "kill" off Thailog? If i remember correctly at the end of "Genesis Undone" he and the Clones had contracted a disease that permanently turned them into stone. They left it very open as to whether or not a cure could/would be found. If Greg Weisman wanted him back in action so bad, all it would take is a 2 minute scene involving Xanatos finding a cream or something to fix them up, or something to that effect.
I was never a big fan of "The Goliath Chronicles", but i dont see why a whole season of a show that didnt cause any permanent changes or create any unresolvable issues should be thrown out of continuity altogether.
GregX
01-01-2006, 11:22 PM
How did The Goliath Chronicles "kill" off Thailog? If i remember correctly at the end of "Genesis Undone" he and the Clones had contracted a disease that permanently turned them into stone. They left it very open as to whether or not a cure could/would be found. If Greg Weisman wanted him back in action so bad, all it would take is a 2 minute scene involving Xanatos finding a cream or something to fix them up, or something to that effect.
I was never a big fan of "The Goliath Chronicles", but i dont see why a whole season of a show that didnt cause any permanent changes or create any unresolvable issues should be thrown out of continuity altogether.Why would Xanatos revive Thailog and the Clones?
Aw well, you're entitled to your opinion.
BlackoutCreature
01-02-2006, 05:35 PM
Why would Xanatos revive Thailog and the Clones?Thats not the point, im not trying to sell a script. Any mediocre writer could come up with a million reasons for Xanatos to do it, or a million reasons for a million other people to do it. Im merely stating that bringing Thailog and the Clones back could be done easily enough without throwing the season out of continuity.
moumantai
01-03-2006, 07:20 PM
crosses fingers and toes and hopes for more seasons of gargoyles lol
J-Ranger
01-07-2006, 04:24 PM
Does anyone have the link to this info? The link on the first page is dead.
GregX
01-07-2006, 06:46 PM
Does anyone have the link to this info? The link on the first page is dead.
http://slavelabor.com/index2.html
J-Ranger
01-07-2006, 10:03 PM
Thank You
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