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James Harvey
12-10-2001, 09:58 AM
In the newspage, it's reported that WB is claiming many high stake movie release dates for their Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, and Matrix franchises. Any thoughts on this?

Bird Boy
12-10-2001, 10:51 AM
Wait..I didn't know WB owned LOTR..I thought that was New Line Cinema? Or is NLC owned by WB?

as for the release date thing..it's interesting...they're all movies I wanna see, so the earlier the better I say! :)

-BB

James Harvey
12-10-2001, 11:09 AM
New Line is indeed a sub-division of Time Warner enterinament, the same group who own and run WB and DC Comics. So these movies will no doubt be very profitable for the Time Warner group.

Nightwing
12-10-2001, 11:18 AM
Damn! I hate to give one conglomerate the advantage, but I want to see all those movies! Spiderman, quick, save us from the movie monopoly!

Although I could probably wait quite a while for Harry Potta, since I'm not really a fan and just want to see it for the sake of seeing it. I dunno, I hear a lot of people like the books. Whatever. :)

joker
12-10-2001, 05:27 PM
i think that disney has dibbs on the world :eek:

Maxie Zeus
12-10-2001, 05:37 PM
1. AOL Time Warner
2. Disney
3. Microsoft

Isn't it a pity that can't all lose?

Aside: just cruised over the 2K posting mark. :D

Calhoun07
12-10-2001, 06:14 PM
Actually, I'd be more apt to put Disney in the #3 slot. Bill Gates has the world by their you-know-whats with his faulty operating systems running on virtually every computer across this country, even in the offices of Disney and Time Warner. Heck, Microsoft almost might be #1.

joker
12-10-2001, 07:38 PM
id still put disney at number one, did you realize the own half the food companies in the world.......ol billy cant make computers if he dies of starvation

Calhoun07
12-10-2001, 07:49 PM
Suffice to say, one of them has more power than anybody on this planet needs, and AOL Time Warner is potentially going to be getting more. I hear they are considering buying AT&T.

Mr. Obsession
12-10-2001, 07:52 PM
But without AOLTW we don't get Batman...


Would you want to live in a world without Batman?

Calhoun07
12-10-2001, 08:10 PM
Hey, I didn't say anything about getting rid of them! Just distribute the power a little bit more evenly. The giants keep swallowing up the small guys, and even the littler giants. Eventually, everything will be controled by one comapany if things keep going this way!

James Harvey
12-10-2001, 10:12 PM
That is basically the whole point of a big company like AOLTW. To beat out the other competition. And with a shaky start, they are finally making money in doing just that. Cutting loses where they can. It's the corporate game.

Jowy Blight
12-10-2001, 10:22 PM
One day there will only be one. Not good, but when I take over the world, it will all be different. :D

The Mad Hatter
12-10-2001, 11:25 PM
Ergh, Microsoft is evil. EVIL, I TELL YOU!! Ahem. I just found out that one of their long-term plans is to use their .NET thing to make you pay a monthly fee for their programs. If you don't fork over the fee, your copy of, say, Word poops out. Supposedly they're already testing it out in Austrailia.

Evil.

Calhoun07
12-10-2001, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Ergh, Microsoft is evil. EVIL, I TELL YOU!! Ahem. I just found out that one of their long-term plans is to use their .NET thing to make you pay a monthly fee for their programs. If you don't fork over the fee, your copy of, say, Word poops out. Supposedly they're already testing it out in Austrailia.

Evil.

I knew it was a bad thing that the new programs they are coming out with require you registering online. All the better to set you up and hook you and reel you in for their fee. I hope that lawsuit against Gates is very successful. That man does not need this much power over the world.

James Harvey
12-10-2001, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Ergh, Microsoft is evil. EVIL, I TELL YOU!! Ahem. I just found out that one of their long-term plans is to use their .NET thing to make you pay a monthly fee for their programs. If you don't fork over the fee, your copy of, say, Word poops out. Supposedly they're already testing it out in Austrailia.

Evil.

Ugh - I don't like the sound of that. Thankfully I try to avoid as much Microsoft material as possible. I always try to avoid this stuff, seeing as how I'm not a big fan of Microsoft and PCs to begin with.

JustJack
12-10-2001, 11:40 PM
hehehe, DG, I think this thread would be better titled "Time Warner Taking Over the World".:D

They own EVERYTHING!! Lets list what we can, shall we?
WB
TBS
TNT(I think?)
AoL
DC Comics
New Line


And the list is MUCH longer!

pure...pure evil.... :mad: Must destroy Time Warner!

James Harvey
12-11-2001, 12:28 AM
I think I will rename this thread. They do seem to have their dirty hand sin everything, even COCA-COLA now!!

Failure
12-11-2001, 01:43 AM
Disney owns food companies?

AOLTW has stakes in Coca-Cola?

What the heck is going on here!!! :confused:

James Harvey
12-11-2001, 01:55 AM
Yup. Nex thing you know they'll be buying stakes in air...

Calhoun07
12-11-2001, 12:00 PM
Well, of course they own food companies. How else do they get their stupid happy meal toys in those places? It's all about marketing!

Psycho Fox
12-11-2001, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by JustJack
hehehe, DG, I think this thread would be better titled "Time Warner Taking Over the World".:D

They own EVERYTHING!! Lets list what we can, shall we?
WB
TBS
TNT(I think?)
AoL
DC Comics
New Line


And the list is MUCH longer!

pure...pure evil.... :mad: Must destroy Time Warner! Way back in the early 80's WB had the opportunity to dominate the computer industry but WB like today was stupid and blew their chance twice.

Thus I'm not too worried about AOLTW taking over the world, their incompetence will catch up with them. Someone will outsmart them (That wouldn't be too difficult) or AOLTW will shoot them selfs in the foot.

James Harvey
12-11-2001, 01:12 PM
AOLTW isn't as dumb as you think. I know it sounds weird me defending them, but they have brought up some great things, like DC Comics for instance and some of their animated programming. Granted they haven't handled things too well, but they're not all bad.

Maxie Zeus
12-11-2001, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by joker
id still put disney at number one, did you realize the own half the food companies in the world.......ol billy cant make computers if he dies of starvation

No, Disney does not own any food companies, let alone "half" of them.

An overview of AOL Time Warner's businesses can be found here (http://www.aoltimewarner.com/about/index.html)

And truth to tell, I don't see what the deal is about WB scooping up these franchises. It's not like there's only a limited number of franchises in the world. Every time someone dreams up a new idea, there's a new potential franchise. It's not like owning every space on the Monopoly board.

Calhoun07
12-11-2001, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Psycho Fox
Way back in the early 80's WB had the opportunity to dominate the computer industry but WB like today was stupid and blew their chance twice.

Thus I'm not too worried about AOLTW taking over the world, their incompetence will catch up with them. Someone will outsmart them (That wouldn't be too difficult) or AOLTW will shoot them selfs in the foot.

I shudder to think if WB gained control over the computer industry. You think your version of Windows XP blows? Can you imagine Windows WB??? You'd get the first five features of the software as a part of a test market to see if people really wanted the full package. Then they would release the full version of Windows WB but include the first five features you already purchased so you have to pay for those features twice.

Psycho Fox
12-11-2001, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by calhoun07


I shudder to think if WB gained control over the computer industry. You think your version of Windows XP blows? Can you imagine Windows WB??? You'd get the first five features of the software as a part of a test market to see if people really wanted the full package. Then they would release the full version of Windows WB but include the first five features you already purchased so you have to pay for those features twice. Well WB use to have the brightest and most creative people working for them so at first it might be impressive but WB has a habbit of scaring their talent away.

Maxie Zeus
12-11-2001, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Psycho Fox
Way back in the early 80's WB had the opportunity to dominate the computer industry but WB like today was stupid and blew their chance twice.

Are you talking about Atari? Qube?

Psycho Fox
12-11-2001, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Maxie Zeus


Are you talking about Atari? Qube? Yes, WB use to have controling intrest in Atari. During that time Jay Miner asked for permission to developed what is know knowen as the Amiga. WB laughed saying 8-bit computing would never die. Jay Miner developed it on his own. When he was finnished he asked if anyone wanted to buy the little R&D company he created plus the Amiga. One of the ones Jay Miner went to was Warner Bros at this time WB and Atari went their seperate ways. WB turned Jay Miner down again. He already finnished the protype of the Amiga called Lorraine

Maxie Zeus
12-11-2001, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Psycho Fox
Yes, WB use to have controling intrest in Atari. Lorraine

I don't know the story on Miner. But, strictly speaking, Atari was a unit of Warner Communications Inc. (WCI), the company that owned Warner Bros. Atari was its own little fiefdom that really didn't interact with any of the other units of WCI, and all of its missteps were its own.

Psycho Fox
12-11-2001, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Maxie Zeus


I don't know the story on Miner. But, strictly speaking, Atari was a unit of Warner Communications Inc. (WCI), the company that owned Warner Bros. Atari was its own little fiefdom that really didn't interact with any of the other units of WCI, and all of its missteps were its own. Ok you got me on a technicality Atari was owned by Warner Communications. But They did have say on what went on at Atari for example the game ET was the brain child of WB. Atari said it couldn't be done in such a short time, WCI said to just do what they are told. Also WCI only allowed Atari to sell games during the christmas holidays till '79 or '78 when Atari convenced WCI that is was profitable to sell them year round. Oh yhea WCI pulled the Road Runner pinball game since they thought pinball was dead.

So yes Atari had idiots of their own but WCI were making things worse.

Maxie Zeus
12-11-2001, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Psycho Fox
Ok you got me on a technicality Atari was owned by Warner Communications. But They did have say on what went on at Atari for example the game ET was the brain child of WB. Atari said it couldn't be done in such a short time, WCI said to just do what they are told. Also WCI only allowed Atari to sell games during the christmas holidays till '79 or '78 when Atari convenced WCI that is was profitable to sell them year round. Oh yhea WCI pulled the Road Runner pinball game since they thought pinball was dead.

So yes Atari had idiots of their own but WCI were making things worse.

Yeah, it is a technicality, but it's the difference between blaming the one division for another's mistakes. AOL-TW owns both Warner Bros. and HBO, but you can't blame HBO for screwing up the Batman franchise. Similarly, you can't blame Warner Bros. for Atari's screw ups.

Incidentally, the ET debacle was purely a WCI debacle: The CEO of WCI made that idiot promise to Spielberg. WB (which didn't make ET, Universal did) had nothing to do with it.

Psycho Fox
12-11-2001, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
Yeah, it is a technicality, but it's the difference between blaming the one division for another's mistakes. AOL-TW owns both Warner Bros. and HBO, but you can't blame HBO for screwing up the Batman franchise. Similarly, you can't blame Warner Bros. for Atari's screw ups.

Incidentally, the ET debacle was purely a WCI debacle: The CEO of WCI made that idiot promise to Spielberg. WB (which didn't make ET, Universal did) had nothing to do with it. My bad, your right it was WCI that messed around with Atari not WB it self and Miner went to WCI not WB.