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The Landstander
05-21-2005, 10:50 PM
Welcome to the Anything Else thread enjoy your stay okay :)

Youko Recca
05-21-2005, 10:53 PM
I'm guessing we can expect promos for Paranoia Agent and Scryed tonight.

vegetable
05-21-2005, 11:01 PM
Futurama is rated TV-PG L

Rabi~en~Rose
05-21-2005, 11:09 PM
Futurama is rated TV-PG L

why AS why? :confused:

Space Cadet
05-21-2005, 11:41 PM
s-CRY-ed commerical just aired.

Don_East
05-21-2005, 11:42 PM
A s-CRY-ed promo was just on.

EDIT

Curses, foiled again.

Demonic Raven
05-21-2005, 11:42 PM
s.CRY.ed promo. Lookin' good.

Curses! Double foiled!

Youko Recca
05-21-2005, 11:53 PM
Guess I was spoiled by the Samurai Champloo one, it was okay. The Island is looking pretty good though.

Scirel
05-22-2005, 01:42 AM
Guess I was spoiled by the Samurai Champloo one, it was okay. The Island is looking pretty good though.
That movie looks like a remake of a movie I saw on MST3K a while ago... The plot is exactly the same.

Youko Recca
05-22-2005, 01:44 AM
Damn, where's my PA?

TnAdct1
05-22-2005, 01:49 AM
That movie looks like a remake of a movie I saw on MST3K a while ago... The plot is exactly the same. You mean Parts: The Clonus Horror. My thoughts exactly about how the Island is almost like that film, but without the "Agua" Spanish Children's Show bit (in fact I thought about posting a reply about how this film was a "Parts" rip-off).

Mr. Pedro
05-22-2005, 03:35 AM
Saw the s-CRY-ed promo a couple of times. Still not too sure what to make of the show though.

Beat
05-22-2005, 01:55 PM
Saw the s-CRY-ed promo a couple of times. Still not too sure what to make of the show though.
Anime X-Men. (Or to be more accurate, X-Factor)

Andrew T. Hingson
05-22-2005, 03:05 PM
No PA promo eh?

Maybe they're afraid it'll turn people off.

The s.Cry.ed promo was okay.

Same old Inuyasha promo...

Youko Recca
05-22-2005, 03:09 PM
No PA promo eh?

Maybe they're afraid it'll turn people off.

Possibly. It was the only gamble they've done so far this year when it comes to series. Still, a good promo could have been made out of it. I envisioned one of Slugger's swings ending the promo. Still time to show one luckily.

Freedom Fighter
05-22-2005, 10:27 PM
So let's see, they used an old 'premiere episodes' ad for IY, played a bare-bones, no custom show title card ad for Scry, and no ad at all for PA.

I guess we can plainly see which anime show AS has their money on this summer... *cough* Samurai Champloo *cough*.

vegetable
05-22-2005, 11:39 PM
American Dad pulled 1,133,000 in the 18-34 :eek:

this is why you should check up on the weekly ratings posts every tuesday-wednesday in these Anything Else threads. ;)

Rabi~en~Rose
05-23-2005, 12:03 AM
AS is proud to present 2 C+ rated anime? I always suspected their anime quality bar was low

Shnay
05-23-2005, 12:07 AM
Or maybe they just don't rate everything A++++++++++!!!!

Chrono1995
05-23-2005, 12:08 AM
AS is proud to present 2 C+ rated anime? I always suspected their anime quality bar was low
Welcome to jestland.

G1Ravage
05-23-2005, 12:27 AM
I don't get it. Why have the ratings boxes suddenly gotten...wider, and why does it suddenly seem like every show is rated TV-MA?

Chrono1995
05-23-2005, 12:28 AM
I don't like the way the ratings look now either, but it's not like they hamper my enjoyment of the show.

vegetable
05-23-2005, 12:28 AM
I don't get it. Why have the ratings boxes suddenly gotten...wider

The whole network's like that. It started yesterday. Go figure.

SirLemming
05-23-2005, 12:32 AM
The ATHF re-run breaks the TV-MA trend. But it could theoretically be for all NEW episodes of stuff... for whatever reason.

Chrono1995
05-23-2005, 12:33 AM
The ATHF re-run breaks the TV-MA trend. But it could theoretically be for all NEW episodes of stuff... for whatever reason.
Let's see what "Mid-life Chrystalis" is rated (or re-rated for that matter).

Rabi~en~Rose
05-23-2005, 12:43 AM
ratings for your slow TZ


Sunday, May 15th

A-Dad - 1,133,000
Family Guy - 1,110,000
Chicken - 1,033,000

wow straight millions!

SirLemming
05-23-2005, 12:48 AM
Sealab is TV-14-DLS, 50 times.

Demonic Raven
05-23-2005, 12:49 AM
AWESOME ratings. Talk about ratings ownage!

Youko Recca
05-23-2005, 12:51 AM
ratings for your slow TZ


Sunday, May 15th

A-Dad - 1,133,000
Family Guy - 1,110,000
Chicken - 1,033,000

wow straight millions!
Nice. Are those the best Sunday ratings ever?

William C. Maune
05-23-2005, 12:56 AM
I don't get it. Why have the ratings boxes suddenly gotten...wider

The cable industry is making the ratings boxes more visible as part of an effort to head off increased regulation.

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=29703

Rabi~en~Rose
05-23-2005, 12:58 AM
Nice. Are those the best Sunday ratings ever?

yes so far infact those were all higher then the first batch of millions :)


Sunday, May 15th

A-Dad - 1,133,000
Family Guy - 1,110,000
Chicken - 1,033,000


Saturday, May 14th

Futurama - 682,000
Champloo - 607,000
Metropolis - 480,000

looks like I missed my mark :( but while Sealab was on I said to myself Futur would be down and I was right :) Metropolis did way much better then the other movies so far to


Up - F-Guy, Chicken
Down - Futur
New - A-Dad, Champloo, Metropolis

Chrono1995
05-23-2005, 01:00 AM
Those are pretty nice numbers for Champloo, and I thought Metropolis would get a lower number, so that's good.

Demonic Raven
05-23-2005, 01:02 AM
Heh heh, I guessed Champloo's ratings right.

Not too shabby, though I expected Metropolis to get a little bit higher. Oh well.

Youko Recca
05-23-2005, 01:05 AM
Ah, strong premier for the Champloo. Metropolis did better than I expected, also good. Adult Swim must be pretty happy with last week.

William C. Maune
05-23-2005, 01:06 AM
Not too shabby, though I expected Metropolis to get a little bit higher. Oh well.

Metropolis' ratings are likely an average of the whole 2 hour timeslot. A 480,000 average is pretty good when you consider that people have to stay up until 2am to see the whole movie.

vegetable
05-23-2005, 01:08 AM
The cable industry is making the ratings boxes more visible as part of an effort to head off increased regulation.

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=29703

You'd think someone would sue the FCC by now for unconstitutional regulation of speech. Too bad the broadcast TV and radio industry is run by a bunch of *******.

Mog
05-23-2005, 01:10 AM
Metropolis' ratings are likely an average of the whole 2 hour timeslot. A 480,000 average is pretty good when you consider that people have to stay up until 2am to see the whole movie. Yeah, and it's also not the most exciting movie either. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people stopped watching halfway because they were tired. To get 480K with it's slow pace and story is pretty damn good. Not to mention that it's been out for a while and all the die-hard anime fans had probably already seen it. I know a few people who didn't watch it due to that reason.

Zyzzybalubah
05-23-2005, 01:12 AM
yes so far infact those were all higher then the first batch of millions :)


Sunday, May 15th

A-Dad - 1,133,000
Family Guy - 1,110,000
Chicken - 1,033,000


Saturday, May 14th

Futurama - 682,000
Champloo - 607,000
Metropolis - 480,000

looks like I missed my mark :( but while Sealab was on I said to myself Futur would be down and I was right :)


Up - F-Guy, Chicken
Down - Futur
New - A-Dad, Champloo, Metropolis
Now that's a strong weekend of Adult Swim. I'm going to predict Champloo stays high and if it drops, not by a big amount, it's a pretty damn good show so far from what I've seen (I've seen the first two episodes and 2 other eps.) The mighty question is... Will InuYasha be a good action lead-in? Take a trip to last year when Adult Swim Action returned to Saturday, the line up was:

11- Inuyasha
11:30- Wolf's Rain
12- FLCL
12:30- Inuyasha (1 Inuyasha a night is bad enough for me :sad:)
1- Cowboy Bebop
1:30- Trigun

The lineup tanked. But hey let's be honest, it wasn't a great lineup. Most of the block was reruns (mostly good shows, but still, we've seen these shows enough as it is), most people did not care for Wolf's Rain (me being one), and um... despite my opinion, I can't explain why InuYasha didn't do so well (if they keep it playing on AS and the IY fans whine when it's off, you know it was doing well previously.) Maybe it was that odd Venture Bros. syndrome? IMO if ratings drop, maybe swap time slots of Champloo and IY or bring in FMA reruns (the show that appears to be AS's highest rated anime ever.)

Well, I guess we'll see...

IMO sCRYed wasn't that good from the little I saw, the promo was okay, but hey I'll watch it.

William C. Maune
05-23-2005, 01:15 AM
You'd think someone would sue the FCC by now for unconstitutional regulation of speech. Too bad the broadcast TV and radio industry is run by a bunch of *******.

Yep, it's pretty sad. They mention the option every once in awhile, but they never follow through. It's be expensive since it would probably go all the way to the Supreme Court, but a definitive ruling (that I'm going to guess would be in the industry's favor) would put a stop to a lot of the nonsense. The various broadcast and cable companies just need to pool their legal resources together and go for it.

Rabi~en~Rose
05-23-2005, 01:18 AM
has tonights VB always had that black censor square during the bar scene? I dont remember it being there before for the life of me :confused:

Zyzzybalubah
05-23-2005, 01:20 AM
has tonights VB always had that black censor square during the bar scene? I dont remember it being there before for the life of me :confused:
You mean the censor bar around the girls :quack:? Yeah I've always seen it dangling around her :hoo hoo:.

Sorry for the lame joke, but yeah, I remember that stuff being cesnsored.

Chad Bonin
05-23-2005, 01:21 AM
Futurama - 682,000
Champloo - 607,000
Metropolis - 480,000I was about to remark that "At least Metropolis got third"... but then I realized it was one of only three things airing that night.

herbkir
05-23-2005, 01:22 AM
S-cry-ed is probably the weakest of the premiering shows. It's a straight action/adventure series that's been around for a while and is out in box sets.

I was glad to see Metropolis do as well as it did. I'd hoped for better but feared worse. Now to see how well the Inuyasha movie did...

I think that was the first Sunday where all the Top-3 shows exceeded a million viewers. Congrats, AS. (^_*)

G1Ravage
05-23-2005, 01:25 AM
The cable industry is making the ratings boxes more visible as part of an effort to head off increased regulation.

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=29703
........

They could've increased the box vertically as well. I don't like the way it's all stretched out.

vegetable
05-23-2005, 01:51 AM
Yep, it's pretty sad. They mention the option every once in awhile, but they never follow through. It's be expensive since it would probably go all the way to the Supreme Court, but a definitive ruling (that I'm going to guess would be in the industry's favor) would put a stop to a lot of the nonsense. The various broadcast and cable companies just need to pool their legal resources together and go for it.

I could go on about the FCC's purpose for a while, but I do think the broadcast industry would win such a case simply because I don't see how the FCC would physically prove that they have the legal right to censor broadcast content. Especially after re-reading the original FCC establishment charter which shows they were created to create prevent abuse of the radio airwaves and maintain a fairness among those who use it. One radio show host I listen to (Phil Hendrie) keeps saying he hopes to sue the FCC someday, but I'm waiting for that to actually do it. Til then he occasionally brings up the subject or introduces some kind of new "incriminating" evidence. Assuming he actually goes for it someday though since he also said he'd by a hybrid car, and bought a Jaguar instead. :sweat:

Wounded_Dragon
05-23-2005, 08:34 AM
I was about to remark that "At least Metropolis got third"... but then I realized it was one of only three things airing that night.
Welll, they did air Perfect Hair Forever as a time filler between Metropolis and the rerun of Samurai Champloo...

Never mind, they really was only three things on that night. :sweat:

Beat
05-23-2005, 12:36 PM
I dunno, knowing the conservative courts nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if they ruled in the FCC's favor.

Anyway, great Sunday numbers, decent Metropolis numbers and Champloo numbers. Although considering that Futurama was #1 again, and they plan to lead off the anime with (sigh) Inu-Yasha, I see those numbers plummeting.

herbkir
05-23-2005, 01:04 PM
The FCC up to now has preferred not to get into regulation of cable content. But the commissioners are political creatures who must respond to the political winds in order to keep getting reappointed. Those winds are blowing in the direction of more censorship.

And the FCC has a new chairman who must make his mark pretty quickly. His prececessor did it through media and telecom deregulation. The new guy may be doing it through media decency.

The cable companies also can read the political winds and they are reacting appropriately to head off onerous regulation by clueing parents in to the nature of their content and reminding them of things they can do (V-chip) to avoid content they find objectionable. A perfectly reasonable approach, except to those who say: "I don't want me and mine to see this crap (which is perfectly within their rights), and I'm going to make sure you and yours don't see this garbage either (which tramples on my rights)." Such people are beyond reason.

It's kind of like what happened with the movies in the late '20s when moviemakers produced films that outraged the moral standards of the day, and public sentiment called for creation of a national movie censor. The film industry responded by creating a self-censorship system through the Hays Office that lasted until the '60s when things started to really loosen up again. There was another mini-backlash that led to the MPAA movie content rating system we've had for recent decades.

As to the FCC's original charter, that has been modified and amended through several supplemental laws (the last such passed in 1996) that greatly expanded the FCC's legal mission. And there's sentiment in Congress for legislation that would explicitly declare the FCC to be the nation's official TV/radio/Internet censor.

It's really kind of funny. The ultra-right-wingers who call for govt. to get out of running peoples' lives are the first in line to demand govt. interference in our lives when it's for a cause they believe in, like protection of public morals. (^_*)

Tienshin
05-23-2005, 01:24 PM
It's really kind of funny. The ultra-right-wingers who call for govt. to get out of running peoples' lives are the first in line to demand govt. interference in our lives when it's for a cause they believe in, like protection of public morals. (^_*)

That's far too simplistic. Fact is both liberals and conservatives are lobbying for additional restrictions of the broadcast airwaves, as well as tighter restrictions on cable television.


Sens. John D. Rockefeller IV (Democrat-W.Va.) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (Republican-Texas) have introduced a bill that would extend broadcast indecency rules to cable and satellite TV. And Sen. Ron Wyden (Democrat-Ore.) has proposed a measure that would require all cable and satellite TV operators to offer their subscribers a "child-friendly" tier of at least 15 channels of video programming.

LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-tvwatch23may23,1,4780789.story?coll=la-headlines-technology)

Master Moron
05-23-2005, 01:53 PM
The lineup tanked. But hey let's be honest, it wasn't a great lineup. Most of the block was reruns (mostly good shows, but still, we've seen these shows enough as it is), most people did not care for Wolf's Rain (me being one), and um... despite my opinion, I can't explain why InuYasha didn't do so well (if they keep it playing on AS and the IY fans whine when it's off, you know it was doing well previously.) Maybe it was that odd Venture Bros. syndrome? IMO if ratings drop, maybe swap time slots of Champloo and IY or bring in FMA reruns (the show that appears to be AS's highest rated anime ever.)


I don't think Inu-yasha fans knew that new episodes were on Saturday. I seem to remember tons of Inu-yasha fans flooding the official Adult Swim board saying "Bring back Inu-yasha!" even though they were airing new episodes on Saturday. I guess they didn't do a good job of advertising new Inu-yasha episodes last time. It also didn't help that they never advertised the Saturday block so a lot of people didn't even know that Adult Swim was on Saturday(actually, they still forget to list Saturdays in the ads). But, now it seems like more people know that Adult Swim airs on Saturdays so hopefully more people will tune in. Of course, it's possible that you'll have some Inu-yasha fans tuning in at 12:30 and they'll see Scryed and go "Where is Inu-yasha!?!" But, I think Adult Swim has realized at this point, that Inu-yasha fans will complain no matter what.

Wounded_Dragon
05-23-2005, 03:14 PM
I don't think Inu-yasha fans knew that new episodes were on Saturday. I seem to remember tons of Inu-yasha fans flooding the official Adult Swim board saying "Bring back Inu-yasha!" even though they were airing new episodes on Saturday. I guess they didn't do a good job of advertising new Inu-yasha episodes last time. It also didn't help that they never advertised the Saturday block so a lot of people didn't even know that Adult Swim was on Saturday(actually, they still forget to list Saturdays in the ads).

While the lack of promotion AS gives Saturday was, and still is a problem (for every general promo that Saturday is on, it seems like three go by that it isn't on), I can't imagine IY fans being so...ignorant(calming breath) as to not know IY was on Saturdays. It was promoted heavily, at times better than the entire Saturday block in general. Besides, were these Internet fans so stupid as to not be able to find the show on the schedule? I mean, it does take a few shreds of intelligence to get on the Internet and use a computer doesn't it? (ok, that calming breath didn't help that much...):mad: :sweat:

Tapout
05-23-2005, 03:38 PM
The FCC up to now has preferred not to get into regulation of cable content. But the commissioners are political creatures who must respond to the political winds in order to keep getting reappointed. Those winds are blowing in the direction of more censorship.
Six months or so ago I would have agreed with that. After all the Janet Jackson ********* everyone was all up in arms about decency and the "for the children" nonsense, but that got blown so far out of proportion that I think the tides are going the other way now. The FCC is actually staying pretty far away from the censorship issue. They've said they're leaving satellite radio alone (thank god), and I haven't really read anything about further cable regulations. The super-duper-nutcases like the PTC are going to vent their bile, but the rest of us still aren't listening to them, and it seems like the FCC is starting to do the same.

Matt Hazuda
05-23-2005, 04:17 PM
That's far too simplistic. Fact is both liberals and conservatives are lobbying for additional restrictions of the broadcast airwaves, as well as tighter restrictions on cable television.
Sens. John D. Rockefeller IV (Democrat-W.Va.) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (Republican-Texas) have introduced a bill that would extend broadcast indecency rules to cable and satellite TV. And Sen. Ron Wyden (Democrat-Ore.) has proposed a measure that would require all cable and satellite TV operators to offer their subscribers a "child-friendly" tier of at least 15 channels of video programming.
LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-tvwatch23may23,1,4780789.story?coll=la-headlines-technology)Rather than going for this completely idiodic legislation, I'd rather Congress take the stance that the Consumer's Union (http://www.hearusnow.org/tvradiocable/whatsatstake/cablechannelchoice/) and the Parents Television Council (http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2005/0427.asp) have taken and allow consumers to purchase channels on an a la carte basis of $1 to $3 per channel. This gives parents the choice of just not having something, and also allows you to save money by not having channels you don't watch, or that are utterly useless (Speedvision, Home Shopping, etc) and would force companies to have good content or face losing viewers.

I can't say any more without making this political, so I'll leave it at that.

vegetable
05-24-2005, 12:26 PM
ADSM Total Day Ratings (Period May 16 - 22)


425,000 viewers 18-34 (#1)
251,000 viewers 18-24 (#1)
275,000 men 18-34
172,000 men 18-24
150,000 women 18-34
79,000 women 18-24
562,000 viewers 18-49 (#3)
343,000 viewers 25-54 (#9)
1,272,000 viewers 2+ (#4)


UP: 18-34, 18-24, 18-34M, 18-24M, 18-49, 2+
DOWN: 18-34F
SAME: 18-24F

Top Telecasts (2+)

5/16/05
Family Guy - 2,309,000

COMPETITION: Nickelodeon, sports, Law and Order reruns


Top Telecasts (18-49)

5/16/05
Family Guy - 1,717,000

COMPETITION: sports, The Shield, Drumline


Top Telecasts (18-34)

5/22/05
American Dad - 988,000

5/19/05
Family Guy - 1,248,000

5/18/05
Family Guy - 1,102,000

5/16/05
Family Guy - 1,343,000

COMPETITION: sports, Real World/Road Rules, The Shield

herbkir
05-24-2005, 12:26 PM
The cable/satellite industry loves packages, in part because they can market "180 channels for one low monthly rate." And if people only bought the channels they wanted, they might spend less for their service, and that's not what the industry wants.

Packages also serve a useful purpose by getting specialized channels out there so they can find their audiences. But I'd like the a la carte idea as an option. I have 120 channels in my satellite package but I never watch 2/3 of them.

It'd be great if the companies offered, say, a 40-channel package that I could fill from a much larger menu of channel choices. (^_*)

Eddie G.
05-24-2005, 09:55 PM
Rather than going for this completely idiodic legislation, I'd rather Congress take the stance that the Consumer's Union (http://www.hearusnow.org/tvradiocable/whatsatstake/cablechannelchoice/) and the Parents Television Council (http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2005/0427.asp) have taken and allow consumers to purchase channels on an a la carte basis of $1 to $3 per channel. This gives parents the choice of just not having something, and also allows you to save money by not having channels you don't watch, or that are utterly useless (Speedvision, Home Shopping, etc) and would force companies to have good content or face losing viewers.

I can't say any more without making this political, so I'll leave it at that.The problem is that it becomes viewership blackmail, basically networks will tone themselves down and try to become family friendly just to keep viewers.

Another problem is that it will become hard to become a new cable network. Think of it this way you spend a $10 flat rate on cable and then spend $60 dollars to get the twenty networks you want. A new network called Joe TV comes on, your cable company sends you an e-mail or traditional mail to alert you and ask you if you'd like this network but seriously are most people going to read through that, no. Joe TV fails because it's unable to gain viewers because most people didn't care about it or want to pay for it. So while Joe TV might've been able to attract viewers in the past because it would've automatically been apart of their current package and people would find it by flipping through to find their favorite movie or TV show on Joe TV.

The final most ethical problem is having the goverment telling people how to sell their product.

Demonic Raven
05-24-2005, 10:14 PM
So...I take it no one else saw the Paranoia Agent promo? It's was on during Inuyasha....and it looks kinda weird to me.

Majin_Megabyte
05-25-2005, 01:09 AM
That was an great overview promo of the Shichinin-tai arc for Inuyasha.

Andrew T. Hingson
05-26-2005, 04:17 AM
Awesome PA promo. Very well done. I hope I see it again.

freerock1.com
05-26-2005, 12:58 PM
Back to the content ratings issue... The whole thing seems to show the inconsistency of the content ratings as they are now. Since networks rate their own shows, they can use the ratings as more of a marketing device.

Take South Park, for example. As it airs on Comedy Central (including any edits), if it were a movie it would likely be rated PG-13 at most. (I'm meaning the TV series, not the SP: Bigger, Longer, Uncut movie; that's an entirely different story.) Yet the fact that it carries a TV-MA rating has had to help it gain attention, in some cases breeding controversy, and at the very least sparking interest of viewers.

Not to mention that the standards for ratings are not the same across the board. Broadcast TV and basic cable are more likely to be more conservative with their ratings, simply because the standards are stricter. But even within the confines of broadcast and basic cable, since networks rate themselves, what gets a TV-14 on one network may get a TV-PG on another, and so forth.

At least for broadcast and basic cable, my personal opinion is that if the content ratings are going to be in place, there should be some kind of a committee, similar to the MPAA, that will rate programs consistently and impartially (at least in theory) across the board. The board could be Congressionally-appointed, although I don't think Congress should be the ones to rate the shows; our Congress has more important things to do with our tax money than sit around watching TV. ;)

Also, I personally support the idea of a la carte packaging for cable and satellite. There are several channels I would like to have, and several I have that I rarely watch.

But the FCC did a study where it said this would be too costly to implement. I'm not sure I totally buy it.


Another problem is that it will become hard to become a new cable network. Think of it this way you spend a $10 flat rate on cable and then spend $60 dollars to get the twenty networks you want. A new network called Joe TV comes on, your cable company sends you an e-mail or traditional mail to alert you and ask you if you'd like this network but seriously are most people going to read through that, no. Joe TV fails because it's unable to gain viewers because most people didn't care about it or want to pay for it. So while Joe TV might've been able to attract viewers in the past because it would've automatically been apart of their current package and people would find it by flipping through to find their favorite movie or TV show on Joe TV.I can see that point. What cable providers might want to do is offer a free preview for a couple months or so when a new channel becomes available, in addition to alerting their customers that the channel is now offered. Also they may want to periodically give free previews of these channels. If people become hooked, they can add the channel for a very, very small fee. Of course the logistics of how to work this might be a concern. Also, the government should probably make recommendations but perhaps not dictate how to do things. Like you said,

The final most ethical problem is having the goverment telling people how to sell their product.
EDIT: With the fact that there hasn't seemed to be a drastic change in content standards (especially considering that some of their TV-14 shows have gotten away with worse), it seems that AS is largely using TV-MA as a marketing device to say their shows are for adults.

herbkir
05-26-2005, 01:17 PM
A lot of cable companies and both major satellite providers already do offer several weeks of free previews when they add a brand-new channel, and have free weekends a couple of times a year for premium services like HBO or Showtime. The idea works.

But with limited capacity on most cable systems, the hard part for any new channel launch is securing scarce cable slots. The major satellite systems have used less than half of their total 10,000-channel capacity so finding a slot isn't hard. But satellite carriage alone isn't enough to get the critical mass of viewers needed to make a new channel self-supporting. And the satellite companies drive hard bargains on the channels they do choose to carry.

Cartoon Network's Boomerang classic-cartoon channel has been a consistent money-loser for them because they can't get it up on enough cable systems. ADV hasn't been very successful in getting cable carriage of the scheduled linear version of The Anime Network. (^_*)

Rabi~en~Rose
05-27-2005, 12:00 AM
is viewer card night no more? they haven't shown any today so far :confused:

NickWhiz1
05-27-2005, 12:00 AM
Yeah...don't know what happened with that.

So apparently we have TV-MA for keeps now. Interesting.

Youko Recca
05-27-2005, 12:49 AM
That Paranoia Agent promo was basically what I was thinking. Pretty good.

ShadowS
05-27-2005, 01:00 AM
Does anyone know how long it takes for the ASF website to update their site with new promos after a new one is showned on AS? I still haven't seen a few and want to check them out before watching the new shows that will be shown this weekend.:confused::sweat:

vegetable
05-27-2005, 05:14 AM
Yeah...don't know what happened with that.

So apparently we have TV-MA for keeps now. Interesting.

on a similar note, Tom episode "Re-birth" is back on the schedule.

peacebyanymeans
05-28-2005, 03:11 PM
Do you think this could mean more mature rated series on AS?

Youko Recca
05-28-2005, 03:15 PM
Hopefully. I want Knocking on Heaven's Door in full. When is that schedueled again anyway?

One Radical Dude
05-28-2005, 03:44 PM
Hopefully. I want Knocking on Heaven's Door in full. When is that schedueled again anyway?
I heard that it was for this fall.