Lost "Exodus" Parts 1, 2, and 3 Talkback (Spoilers)

[Fone Bone]

I'm just doing one talkback for this week and next week's episodes since they are all technically part of the season finale.

Lost "Exodus" Part 1

From the TV Guide description:

In Part 1 of the two part season finale, the day of the plane crash is recalled as Rousseau (Mira Furlan) shocks the survivors with warnings about "the others". Meanwhile Jin and Micheal wrap up preparations for the raft's maiden voyage.

Warning: this poll is for all three episodes so if the last one sucks and you already voted ***** for this week's yer outta luck.:p

[Master Moron]

This episode will repeat next Tuesday at 8:00 according to abc.com's schedule in case anyone misses it.

[Rook]

if its a two part finale why do does it parts 1, 2, and 3 in your title?

[Caffeine King]

if its a two part finale why do does it parts 1, 2, and 3 in your title?
It's a 3 part finale. Part one aired tonight and parts two & three will air next week.


Great episode. **** stars but I'll vote as a whole for all 3 next week.

[Temple Fugate]

NICE. Leave us wondering about that pirate ship for next week and focus on the raft's launch for an uncharacteristically hopeful ending that I'm sure will fade the instant the next part begins. Can't wait.

I couldn't tell, but could we actually see the SOURCE of the smoke in that last shot? It was at the very bottom of the screen and I only noticed it a split second before the screen went to black, but I thought I saw something not tree-like where the smoke was coming from. I should start taping this show.

I liked all those flashbacks from all the different characters. Very cool.

The best scene was Sawyer telling Jack about his father. I never thought he'd actually mention it. It's nice to see those two bond for a change.

So is his name Arzst or Art? I couldn't tell if that joke at the end was meant to suggest he was just playing with Hurley the entire time about his name or what.

Who wants to bet that woman in seat 42A is with Rose's husband somewhere else on the Island? Judging by the numbers, since Jack in 23B became the "leader" of the fuselage survivors, she became the "leader" of the tail survivors? Or maybe the Island didn't care about her and just ditched her somewhere in the ocean. I'm just trying to anticipate future plot threads.

BLACK SMOKE AND PIRATE LOOT! BRING ON THE FINALE!
Lost 1x24: "Exodus" Part I - ****

To Be Continued...

[EDIT: Well I'm a frickin' moron. Before posting, I smartly observed that the poll was for all three parts, but like clockwork, I placed my vote in the poll the instant I posted this review because that's my habit. So if anyone's wondering who the idiot was that voted **** already, that was me. :ack: ]

[EDIT DEUX: Considering nobody will actually SEE the poll until they had voted, I could have kept my trap shut for a week and nobody would have noticed the poll had one vote on it already. So...I'm even more of an idiot. So there.]

[Mister Intensity]

Is it me or did Jack have more chemistry with the woman in 42A than he ever did with Kate?

Mister Intensity

[Nanashi]

Excellent. I'm liking the character development on Sawyer ("James"). I know the whole "I'm a tough guy, but really deep down I'm actually a big ol' softie" has been done a million times, but I'm still enjoying it in Sawyer. Poor guy is so lonely - he was looking for Kate to say goodbye to him.

Sweet that Jin and Sun made up, though did I detect a hint of Michael-Sun flirtation? Now I'm getting confused.

Highlight of the episode: the flashbacks. For once, they were neither boring nor detracting. Quick little segments that gave you insight into the characters. In other words: what flashbacks are SUPPOSED to be. Also, it was nice seeing Boone again.

That raft is NOT going to end well. Not at all.


So is his name Arzst or Art?Leslie Arzt, if I heard correctly.


Is it me or did Jack have more chemistry with the woman in 42A than he ever did with Kate?It's not just you. Then again, Jack would probably have more chemistry with the polar bear.

[Master Moron]

Wow, for a second there I thought this show was going to pull a Star Trek and kill off Arzt after just introducing him last episode. I'm glad they didn't go the predictable route.

[Harley_Quinn]

Wow, for a second there I thought this show was going to pull a Star Trek and kill off Arzt after just introducing him last episode. I'm glad they didn't go the predictable route.So did I but does anyone else wonder how he, all of the sudden, got in front of the group while he was running away from the monster, when he was clearly heading back to the beach when he left.

I liked the episode but really wanna see it all wrapped up next week.

[Knight]

Can someone explain Lost to me? I know its about a bunch of airplane crash survivors and thats about it. I did catch some of the first part of this ep though but was confused. Whats been going on? Whats is that thing that they were getting dynamite to try to open and what did the smoke stake mean? Thanks.

[Master Moron]

Can someone explain Lost to me? I know its about a bunch of airplane crash survivors and thats about it. I did catch some of the first part of this ep though but was confused. Whats been going on? Whats is that thing that they were getting dynamite to try to open and what did the smoke stake mean? Thanks.

Why didn't you watch that recap episode two weeks ago? That would have explained everything. No one knows what that thing is. Locke and Boone found it one time when a flashlight hit the ground and made a metallic sound. Boone and Locke have dug it up and been attempting to open it for a while. After Boone died, Locke told Sayid about it, Sayid told Jack, and now everyone knows. The smoke means people are attacking, at least that's what the French chick said on this episode.

[DR.MID-NITE]

With regards to Jack & Kates lack of chemistry. Remember, Jack was supposed to have died in the pilot. But, they liked his character and he lived. So who knows how they were going to handle the Sawyer-Kate relationship.

I too liked that Sawyer told Jack about his dad. I think that is one of the reasons Sawyer wants off the island. He is finding himself caring about the others and for a person like that....he is having trouble with that.

[silverwings]

Wow, just wow. This may be the best season finale I've ever seen, if this week was any indication.

Loved the individual flashbacks to how they got on the plane. Laughed at the snotty women who thought Sun didn't speak English. Good thing Jin doesn't, or else she be a dead snotty woman. :D

The message in the bottle thing was really cute. For a moment there, I thought Sawyer was going to give up his spot to Kate. Not the case. Though we do get more shirtless scenes next week. :anime:

I thought Alex was going to be a boy (Ethan?) or an abbreivation for her experiment (A.L.E.X.). Turns out to be a girl. Huh, and Danielle is sure interested in Claire...

Which makes me wonder...
Claire is screaming that "she took my baby!" and a lot of people thinks its Danielle. But what if it is Alex, who has been raised by the others?

Hmm.. that woman Jack was talking to was in 42... Jack was in 23... (those numbers again!)

Sawyer has a name! Though I think Sawyer fits him better.

Looking back, this episode answered a lot!

Like the Black Rock which is the Black Pearl in disguise.:p

[Harley_Quinn]

Can someone explain Lost to me? I know its about a bunch of airplane crash survivors and thats about it. I did catch some of the first part of this ep though but was confused. Whats been going on? Whats is that thing that they were getting dynamite to try to open and what did the smoke stake mean? Thanks.They are showing that recap show again on Sat. nite. Check TVguide.com and see what time they are showing it in your area. Just FYI

[Knight]

Why didn't you watch that recap episode two weeks ago? That would have explained everything. No one knows what that thing is. Locke and Boone found it one time when a flashlight hit the ground and made a metallic sound. Boone and Locke have dug it up and been attempting to open it for a while. After Boone died, Locke told Sayid about it, Sayid told Jack, and now everyone knows. The smoke means people are attacking, at least that's what the French chick said on this episode. Thanks for a little background. I didnt watch the recap two weeks ago because I dont normaly watch the show. So i wouldnt have knowledge of the recap.

[Fone Bone]

Awesome episode. I LOVED all of the flashbacks this week and seriously hope we see that woman and Rose's husband in the rumored other band of survivors. Although it would be nice to see ROSE sooner rather than later.

Two REALLY touching scenes: Sawyer telling Jack how he met his father (LOVED Jack's reaction) and Walt giving Shannon Vincent. I'm starting to have my doubts now that Walt is evil. I also loved Jin's goodbye to Sun.

The next week preview gave away too much about Claire's baby I would have liked to have seen that myself.

EVERYTHING about this episode clicked, the Black Rock, Danielle, the others and the black smoke. It was also nice to learn what the monster was: a security system protecting the island. No wonder Locke isn't afraid of it.

And am I the only one who finds it odd that Danielle and Kate don't have hairy armpits? How many Lady Shicks are ON the island? Enough to last sixteen years? Either way, I'm kinda grateful.:p

The best episode in a while. I can't wait for the season finale and I'm hoping that it sets up a few mysteries for next year, while still wrapping up most of this year's. Awesome: *****.

[Supremus]

Excellent episode. It felt like something happened, although I am not sure it really did, but the scenes with Jack & Sawyer and Walt & Shannon were great.

I loved the way everyone accepted the explanation of Lostzilla being a security system. No questions asked. When will someone on this bloody island utter the words "tell me more". It would also have made sense to ask Delenn to elaborate on how she knew "the others" were coming. She could easily be setting a trap for them. Stupid, stupid Lost people.

As for the flashbacks, they were as short as they were pointless, with the exception of Walt perhaps. Not sure it really told us much, other than once again showing Walt as a slightly unsettling little kid. No jedi powers this week, though.

Art is a bit of a tool. Why was he so antagonistic towards Hurley? And first he shows up a day late to tell everyone about monsoon season, and now his supposed expert advice on dynamite is to "be careful"!?!?! I say feed this plonker to Lostzilla.

So what about Locke? He has already come face to face with Lostzilla. Why hasn't he talked about it. He has seen the light, so to speak, from the hatch. Why haven't we heard more about that? He has also been oddly quiet with his zen-master-of-the-island routine. I wonder if everyone is playing into Locke's plans somehow.

[ManicWebb]

What got me about those short, pointless little flashbacks was that we were introduced to new characters who were getting on different flights. Why introduce them at all? Why give them so much dialogue and screentime?

[Nanashi]

I doubt this really counts as a spoiler at all, but better safe than sorry:

(Regarding the chick Jack met in the bar):

I read in a magazine that that particular actress was joining the cast for next season. So, we can expect her to pop up as a main character. So, will a new group of survivors emerge out of the jungle, or was she just hanging around this whole time? Anyway, she seems like a good actress, so it's a welcome addition.

[Temple Fugate]

What got me about those short, pointless little flashbacks was that we were introduced to new characters who were getting on different flights. Why introduce them at all? Why give them so much dialogue and screentime?Which characters are you referring to? The girl Jack talked to was on the flight, the scene with the snobby woman was more focused on Sun than her, and the people Kate and Sawyer had flashbacks with were supporting characters and sources of exposition that further established those main characters. I can't recall seeing any other characters you may be talking about.

[Master Moron]

Awesome episode. I LOVED all of the flashbacks this week and seriously hope we see that woman and Rose's husband in the rumored other band of survivors. Although it would be nice to see ROSE sooner rather than later.


Apparently, L. Scott Caldwell has been doing a play and has been unavailable. However, J.J. Abrams has said that we will definitely see Rose again.

[ManicWebb]

Which characters are you referring to? The girl Jack talked to was on the flight, the scene with the snobby woman was more focused on Sun than her, and the people Kate and Sawyer had flashbacks with were supporting characters and sources of exposition that further established those main characters. I can't recall seeing any other characters you may be talking about.
I was mostly talking about the girl Jack was talking to. I wasn't paying attention to the dialogue, and thought she was getting on a different flight. After re-watching the episode, it looks like they were just on different parts of the plane. My mistake.

[Fone Bone]

I've got a theory.

What if the hatch is a slight misdirection? I've been giving it a lot of thought and the more I think about it the more I think this may be a horror show instead of a sci-fi adventure. What points me in this direction are some of the horrifying clues of last week's episode.

When we heard the heavy breathing last week and slowly discovered it was Arnst running from the "monster" I personally had no clue what the heavy breathing could be. My first thought was that it was an insane "Other" hunting for the party. What if the hatch is only PART of what should concern us? What if Rousseu was NOT exaggerating and the true danger lies with the Others, NOT the monster or the hatch?

For this theory to work I think we'd have to assume that all of the islanders we've met so far AREN'T evil (and yes, that includes Walt and Locke, at least for now).

From what Rousseu has said I got the feeling that the Others were not only evil, but insane and militant. What if their goal is imposing order on the island by way of domination? It's possible that Rose's husband and the woman we saw Jack talking to last week DID crash on a different part of the island and were taken captive by the Others. Maybe the Others leanred of other survivors existance from the survivors they captured and sent Ethan to scout the island. Ethan may even be the son Rousseu lost.

As for the monster it could be the thing that has protected our survivors from the Others so far and kept their whereabouts unknown until Ethan returned to them. After learning it was a security system to protect the island we could assume that the reason it killed the pilot and the reason it has been chasing OUR survivors is to keep their existance secret by not letting them stray too near to the Others camp. We also could assume that because Rousseu knew what it was that she or one of the people from her team built it. It might be a giant robot (we saw in Rousseu's old lair that she had quite a bit of tech lying around.) Then again, it's protection of the survivors may have been moot as Ethan learned about them quite early on.

As for the hatch when our people get it open I think there may be a weapon inside and that they would think they could use it to protect themselves but in truth the weapon could only be used by the Others and that's why Walt was so afraid of it. The numbers on the hatch could be serial numbers and if the others ARE stranded military they could have been the ones to place it there as a precaution. The reason they may be gunning for our survivors may be to protect their weapon in the hatch. Locke could have accidently have activated it (remember the weird glow?)

The infection Rosseu spoke of in her first appearance COULD be not a disease but a mixture of insanity and evilness that drives the Others (For a similar example see Firefly's the Reavers) that infected all of the people from her ship including Ethan. That's why he wanted Claire's baby, because he could have sensed that in the Others hands it could be a Chosen One. Minor It also could be the reason Rousseu kidnaps Claire's baby in the previews. She obviously would have no idea of the psychic's warning and would want to protect the baby from the Others. She COULD have assumed that Claire's capture and death was imminent and wanted to protect the baby. We might also consider that when Rousseu spoke of the Others bringing Death she may have meant the infection of evil they carry (see the Reavers again) that could potentially destroy the survivors vestages of humanity. This is where Locke would come in. He DOES have a connection to the island for some unknown reason and it's possible that he will be the first one from our camp infected for that reason. Maybe what he saw as beauty in the island was actually him fortelling his great destiny without knowing exactly what it encompassed.

As for the raft, if we assume the Others capture our survivors either in the season finale or early next season it's possible that Sawyer, Jin, Micheal and Walt will be our survivors only hope and the raft points them in the direction of something that can be used against the Others. The island ISN'T really evil, and is trying to restore the balance of power on itself.

The only thing this theory (although REALLY complicated) doesn't explain is the significance of the numbers. It's possible the numbers were a way of warning people away from the island but if that was the case why is Hurley on it? Perhaps because he used them? I'm not sure.

As for the feeling that the island has drawn all of these particular survivors together for some unknown reason it could be to fight the Others and restore balance to the island's nature. The characters lives must be intertwined for SOME reason.

I would be totally surprised if ANY of this theory is used by the writers as it's so out there but really, the fun in this show lies in the speculation.

[Harley_Quinn]

I would be totally surprised if ANY of this theory is used by the writers as it's so out there but really, the fun in this show lies in the speculation.

That is totally the fun of this show is trying to figure the why and how come of everything.

I just can't wait for it tonite

[Fone Bone]

That is totally the fun of this show is trying to figure the why and how come of everything.

I just can't wait for it toniteI think so too. What did everyone think of my theory? (I spent a good amount of time on it.) Anyone think most of it is likely, some of it, or none of it?

[Harley_Quinn]

I think so too. What did everyone think of my theory? (I spent a good amount of time on it.) Anyone think most of it is likely, some of it, or none of it?
Your theory is very detailed to say the least. My only issue with it is that you stated that the survivors on the other side of the island would have told the OTHERS about Jack and his crew, right? How would those survivors know about them? They would have no reason to assume that other survived the crash as well, hence they wouldn't have sent Ethan out to look for them.

[Fone Bone]

Your theory is very detailed to say the least. My only issue with it is that you stated that the survivors on the other side of the island would have told the OTHERS about Jack and his crew, right? How would those survivors know about them? They would have no reason to assume that other survived the crash as well, hence they wouldn't have sent Ethan out to look for them.What if Ethan saw the plane crash in the distance and just happened upon them at that time and saw an oppurtunity? Wouldn't explain why he wanted Claire's baby but there IS a chance he was in tune with the island's frequencies like Walt and Locke.

[silverwings]

Liked your theory, Fone Bone, except for one thing.

Ethan can't be Alex because Alex is a girl. :p

[Temple Fugate]

Liked your theory, Fone Bone, except for one thing.

Ethan can't be Alex because Alex is a girl. :pFor all we know, one of the Island's powers could be switching people's genders. Which would make this show even more interesting. :D

[Fone Bone]

Liked your theory, Fone Bone, except for one thing.

Ethan can't be Alex because Alex is a girl. :pOops, you're right but Ethan doesn't have to be Alex for the theory to work.

The second and third parts are airing tonight.

Lost "Exodus" Parts 2 and 3.

From the TV Guide description:

Fasten your seatbelts, fans. The fates of Flight 815's survivors are up in the air- and possibly down the hatch in the MONSTER conclusion of season one's finale.

Comments?

[Hatter]

I just caught part 1. Very emotional. The Jin/Sun apology scene was really, really moving. As were the various raft departures.
It's not gonna end well, though.

[Rook]

i swear this guy is going to die from his own stupidity...

7 secs later...wow i nailed that one.

Anyone notice how the cast past each other in the airport(s).


That monster has mechanical noises!

[Wesyeed]

Wow, that was unexpected. Ten minutes left. Walt's with some guys on their boat and Sawyer probably got shot...

This is insane.

Looks like it's going to be one of those "to be continued" endings. i HATE THOSE.

I hope charlie isn't stupid enough to go back on drugs.... I'm not watching the show anymore if he does.

[Rook]

Wow, that was unexpected. Ten minutes left. Walt's with some guys on their boat and Sawyer probably got shot...

This is insane.

Looks like it's going to be one of those "to be continued" endings. i HATE THOSE.

I hope charlie isn't stupid enough to go back on drugs.... I'm not watching the show anymore if he does. wasnt unexpected to me, as soon as the frech women said they were looking for the "boy" but didnt take the baby, i knew something was up.

The hatch is open. what we see, a broken ladder, leading into an incredibly deep hole in the ground.

[Bruce Kent]

Hmmm... so Hurley's bad numbers are on this hatch, as we knew before. And this idea of Hope in the hatch is brought up by Locke. Could this hatch resemble Pandora's box, in which to get to hope you also let out all the evils of the world... Hmmm....

Poor Arzt.

We all knew Charlie would find that heroine.

Cliffhanger endings suck.

The monster is invisible... maybe? Or possibly some sort of chameleon type creature.

Okay, when the raft found that boat I was like people! Then it seemed odd that there were so many on a tiny boat in the middle of nowhere! Hello! And then I was shouting.. no!!! it's the others!

Excellent. Loved it!

[Rook]

didnt know monsters made a mechanical sound, especially the part where locke was being dragged, that sounded a lot like a chain retracting.

[Phantasm]

Great episode from what I saw. Didn't see th3 last 20 mins of it though...:sad:

But this is turning out to be one of my fav. shows!

[Bird Boy]

The hatch is open. what we see, a broken ladder, leading into an incredibly deep hole in the ground.

The writers must have had to put in disc 2 before we see whats on the other end of that ladder.

Sorry, Resident Evil humor. :o

Interesting finale. I kinda expected all to happen that did; no way they'd be picked up that easy and no way would they show us the hatch. Hell, they'll probably string us all along for another four or five eps before they decided whats down there. :p

-BB

[Timmay]

I was going to put 0 stars.. but Fone Bone's final option on the list came true.

[AF$]

Great finale, even though some things went unanswered, it still gives us a great amount to look forward to. Anyone notice that the comic belonged to Hurley? Also, in relation to the numbers, they plainly gave away Kate's 23 thousand dollar bounty, but Hurley's car was going 42km when they cut to it. Interesting. I hope Sawyer is actually alive, and comes back in a Tony Almeida moment and blows away some polar bears or something in a moment of peril for Kate and/or Jack.

[Caffeine King]

Great episode! ***** stars...


I knew that when the French chick said "they said they wantedthe boy..." that they meant Walt. Why would they want a newborn baby?

that "monster" is most likely a robot (it sounded like it)...dunno if I like the idea of that.

[ManicWebb]

I completely creeped myself out at the beginning of this episode. I don't know if the writers were just being cliched or what. When they started climbing into the Black Rock at the beginning, Locke bumped into some chains and scared himself. I said to myself "it doesn't get much scarier than chains on a ghost ship... except bones on a ghost ship... or chains wrapped around bones." And lo and behold, Jack steps on a chained-up skeleton 5 seconds later. :sweat:

I remember the "retracting chains" sound as the Beastie dragged Locke. I figured the Beastie really was mechanical, but then I swear I saw Living Smoke as soon as Kate threw the dynamite down the hole. The smoke went upward, sorta twisted, and then went in another direction. So either the security system is living smoke, a smokey-looking ghost, or an invisible machine that doesn't pass emission standards.

I knew there were no others! I knew it! As soon as they revealed Danielle's scratches came from Claire, and she took Claire's baby (who finally has a name... Aaron!), it dawned on me that were were no "others." Either that, or Danielle herself was one of them. Danielle wanted that baby. She started the fire with the black smoke, and has been lying about everything she said because she wants Claire's baby. After all, if Ethan was one of The Others, why would both he and Danielle want Claire's unborn child? Maybe they were in cahoots!

But then Danielle said that thing about The Others wanting the boy, and a group of men on a small boat suddenly showed up in the middle of nowhere wanting only to kidnap Walt... meaning The Others were on the boat at the time. But if that's all of them, does that mean The Others are only a handful of men? Is that why they want only the children? To increase their numbers? But then Alex (a woman) would have to be among them, wouldn't she?

The Rafters made an interesting point. That island is far too big for it to be uncharted. Gilligan's island was uncharted, but every headhunter they ran into was from a neighboring island. The Professor and Skipper knew that island like the backs of their hands by the time they were rescued, stranded again, rescued again, and decided to open up an island resort.

But the Lost Island is big enough for there to be countless boar, miles of jungle to get lost in, and a huge flogging ship that nobody noticed. Not to mention the tribe of Others on the other side of the island. Michael, Walt, Jin, and Sawyer sailed out far enough for them to think the island was behind them, only for them to see more of it directly in front of them.

I guess we all knew Charlie was going to find the heroine at some point. Question is, did he hollow out the statue before taking it?

I guess we know why Walt's had very little respect for Michael. Aside from never being there in his life and seemingly taking him away from his surrogate dad (although we really know Brian gave Walt up), Michael was going to dump the boy as soon as they got state-side. It's called "after school programs," Michael. You buy him a futon to sleep on in the studio, drop him off at school in the morning (or just teach him the bus schedule, if you go to work before school starts), and you let him hang out afterschool for a few hours until you get off of work. Or you give the boy a key to the studio. Michael's a single man; he has to have some disposable income.

--EDIT--
I just realized it was a woman who blew up Michael's raft. Alex is among them, and she's one of the Others.

[Stewie]

I hate this show. Again, they offer several clues, which really don't answer any questions. And on top of that, they pose several more questions.
Darn it. This is a very good show.

How long until the season 2 premiere? Hey, that's Maria Sharapova.

[Fone Bone]

Fone Bone, you are a genius. And psychic.

Disappointing finale, by the way. Some good character moments and a shock or two in the last 10 minutes don't make up for the 2nd half of this season (and this 3-parter) treading water for so long.Really? I hear people saying some of my theories were correct but I don't see it. The only two things I was right about was that the monster was a robot and that there WERE Others (even though I guessed wrong that they were actually coming). I didn't see them wanting Walt coming but it makes sense.

Unfortunately you are right that this was a disappointment. The most spooky thing about the first two parts was the idea that that chain of black smoke belonged to the Others and it was moving toward the beach. As soon as it was revealed that it was Danielle (even though it WAS a misdirect to shock us when they took Walt) it was a huge disappointment for me. Call me crazy but I wanted to see the Other's be a little more like Alias' zombies last night. At least the ones on the boat were a lot like Ethan which was kind of cool. AND they actually have a boat, which is something that I feel will come into play next season. (Our survivors will probably want it).

The saving grace of the episodes was Hurley who stole the show with his surprised expression when Arnst blew up, the flashback of him running through the airport (and then using a scooter) and hugging the ticket lady, and him yelling at the end not to open the hatch because the numbers were "bad".

I guess another thing I was right about was that Locke may be turning evil (or already be). When he ignored Hurley's warning I was shocked and not surprised at the same time (beat THAT!). Finally, Jack seems to know a showdown with Locke is imminent. ("If we survive tonight, we may have a Locke problem".)

I'm going to give the episode **** because despite an anti-climatic ending the first two parts were great.

GMahler, could you give me examples of what I was right about? I really don't think I was but people are saying I am. Very confusing.

[Harley_Quinn]

The saving grace of the episodes was Hurley who stole the show with his surprised expression when Arnst blew up, the flashback of him running through the airport (and then using a scooter) and hugging the ticket lady, and him yelling at the end not to open the hatch because the numbers were "bad"
Yeah I was think poor Hurley, even when he's lucky, getting to his plane on time, he's still unlucky, the whole crashing thing.

I liked the episode but it just didn't move the plot along all that much. I kind of think it could have been done in an hour to be honest.

The whole Walt thing was surprising and as soon as I saw a boat I knew it wasn't going to turn out well. I wonder what happened to Sawyer, how far were they from the island and can they swim back to shore? Oh well, I guess that's what next season is for, right?

[silverwings]

Nobody is talking about Jin's scene in the bathroom? I think that changes what we knew about their relationship.

Hurley rocks. Loved the bit where he panicked because the numbers were bad.

"We'll have a Locke problem." First I heard this as "We'll have a lock problem", refering the hatch and them not being able to close it again. Intentional? Probably.:)

Maggie Grace as Shannon really has shined in the last few episodes. Loved how everyone saw everyone else on the plane or in the airport and didn't think anything of it. Shows just how self-centered everyone is (which is true of real people, we don't notice things like this because it doesn't concern us).

So, the questions to ask ourselves over the summer:
-Is Sawyer dead? Was he actually shot?
-Will Jin and Michael survive as well?
-What do the others want with Walt (and why not Aaron?)
-A broken ladder leading to a endless(seemingly pit), what exactly is the hatch?
-Sideways smoke? Mechanical sounds? What is the monster?

[Hero Supreme]

i did enjoy this episode, but i was expecting to see quite a few things that i didnt in a 3 hour finale including:

1) An actual main character dying, not a main character that they introduced last week

2) A survivor from the plane's tail section, or knowledge that there are additional survivors

3) Around 5% of the monster -- I dont think smoke should count

4) I had heard that they were going to explain why the plane crashed

5) the inside of the hatch from the survivors viewpoint

[Harley_Quinn]

i did enjoy this episode, but i was expecting to see quite a few things that i didnt in a 3 hour finale including:

1) An actual main character dying, not a main character that they introduced last week

2) A survivor from the plane's tail section, or knowledge that there are additional survivors

3) Around 5% of the monster -- I dont think smoke should count

4) I had heard that they were going to explain why the plane crashed

5) the inside of the hatch from the survivors viewpoint
I think you have just outlined what will be explored in the 2nd season.

[Master Moron]

I have to say I nearly jumped out of my seat when Arzt blew up. Still, though, despite my being shocked that the dynamite exploded at that particular moment I think it's kind of lame that they introduced a character just to kill him off. I hope this doesn't turn into Star Trek where they introduce characters to go on missions just to kill them.

By the way, Walt mentioned that Scott was dead. I thought Steve was the one who died?

I could have sworn that Hurley passed Arzt at the airport, yet when Hurley got to the plane, Arzt was already on...that's strange...

I'm surprised we didn't see any more of Michelle Rodriguez's character. I'd figure the fact that she was in the back of the plane would have come into play in one way or the other.

I also thought I read somewhere that we'd see more of the pilot in the episode, but that didn't happen either...

I did find the others rather creepy. I got a real twilight zone vibe from the way they were acting. I think Sawyer got shot in the shoulder so he should be alive as long as the water's not too cold. I imagine if they can get that fire out that they would be able to float on the debris of the raft, but I'm not sure how they could steer it.

[Master Moron]

By the way, did anyone watch Good Morning America this morning? I remember during Lost last night they advertised that they would show a deleted scene from Lost's finale. I don't get up that early though. I guess Good Morning America has been doing the same thing for Desperate Housewives. I wonder if the deleted scene will be on the DVD?

[Harley_Quinn]

By the way, did anyone watch Good Morning America this morning? I remember during Lost last night they advertised that they would show a deleted scene from Lost's finale. I don't get up that early though. I guess Good Morning America has been doing the same thing for Desperate Housewives. I wonder if the deleted scene will be on the DVD?
Probably.

[DR.MID-NITE]

I read they created a new scene for the dvd showing what happened to the plane.

[ManicWebb]

I read they created a new scene for the dvd showing what happened to the plane.
I bet a mysterious puff of Living Smoke was sitting on the wing the whole time...

...Bill Shatner saw it, but nobody believed him.

[Supremus]

What a crappy finale. Bye-bye, Lost, don't count on me as a viewer next season. I am so frustrated with wasting 90 minutes on this steaming pile of garbage, and thinking about all the time I wasted on the previous 23 episodes just makes me want to hurl myself in front of a bus.

We've seen it on Alias and now on Lost: J.J. ABrams hasn't got a damn clue what he is doing. Nice of them to include the footage of Abrams blowing smoke out his ass in the actual episode, though.

So we still don't know what's in the damn hatch. I guess our guess is as good as the writers'.

I hate Charlie so much. Those junkies sure get judgemental on other people in a hurry, don't they? Harshing on Delenn seemed a little hypocritical given that he had just packed himself a goodie-bag full of crack. I was so hoping Sayid would put him out of his misery when he pulled the gun out to treat his wound.

If that 100% pointless 3 minute+ slow-mo sequence of the castaways boarding the plane wasn't the writers hoisting the white flag, I don't know what it was.

Am I the only one who thinks Michael Jackson is behind it all?

The season finales have really sucked badly so far this year.

[ManicWebb]

Remember, everyone: Charlie used to be a very religious man. There's a chance he took a Virgin Mary statue, but dumped the heroin out of it.

[Supremus]

Remember, everyone: Charlie used to be a very religious man. There's a chance he took a Virgin Mary statue, but dumped the heroin out of it.I'm sure that will be the case, or it's for turniphead to play with. The writers like Charlie too much as the good guy, and going through the addiction angle again would just be repetitive.

[Fone Bone]

Just take a look at the last option on your poll.I made that option because it is the single most cliched, predictable ending they could have done. I sure as heck didn't think the show was bad enough to actually DO it.:shrug:

[Master Moron]

I made that option because it is the single most cliched, predictable ending they could have done. I sure as heck didn't think the show was bad enough to actually DO it.:shrug:

Well, technically, according to your prediction you thought that they'd only show us their face and not show us what they were looking at. But, they did show us what was in the hatch. It's a ladder that leads down a long tunnel. I doubt Locke and Jack could see all the way down.

Anyway, did anyone read the TV Guide article on Lost this week. The creators answer some of the questions that I've heard asked on this board, like what they're going to do about Malcolm David Kelley(Walt) aging. But, Damon Lindelof said that Greg Grunberg(the pilot) had a scene with Claire at the airport in the finale. I don't even remember seeing a scene with Claire at the airport. I'm betting that that's the deleted scene that was shown on Good Morning America. But, you know, how the hell was it cut for time? I mean, they extend the show several minutes into the next hour just to add more commercials and they can't even include this scene? For that matter, they could have cut part of that slow mo scene at the end with them all getting on the plane.

[Caffeine King]

--EDIT--
I just realized it was a woman who blew up Michael's raft. Alex is among them, and she's one of the Others.
...uhh, who? Who is Alex?

[Temple Fugate]

I made that option because it is the single most cliched, predictable ending they could have done. I sure as heck didn't think the show was bad enough to actually DO it.:shrug:Hey, at least they showed SOMETHING from inside the hatch. Now we know it leads to someplace and not just an empty little bomb shelter.

I've gotten used to the slow pace at which things are revealed. I don't think Abrams is to blame so much as ABC for wanting several seasons of this series, which is a total mistake. It's one or two years maximum for a show like this...unless the original mystery was much more complicated that we've so far been lead to believe (which I doubt). The writers have the greuling task of stretching out their original idea to cover several seasons of episodes, so we shouldn't go about blaming them for the slow pacing.

It was really cool to have the season finale give us flashbacks of every main character, especially ending with them all boarding the plane. (Maybe we can take this as a sign there will be no more flashback-centered episodes? Okay, probably not, but a guy can hope, can't he?) I was SORELY disappointed they didn't show Rose sitting across the aisle from Jack (and did you notice Jack didn't sit in his proper seat? In the pilot he was next to the aisle, but here he took a seat at the window.) Hurley had the best flashback of the entire series. His airport adventure was hilarious, with just a dash of an eerie feeling as those darned numbers appeared all over the place (I actually had a chill as he scooted past those girls in jerseys). And it just figures it would be HIS Flash comic Walt's been reading. You call Hurley "The Man?" Hurley's not "The Man," he's "The Dude!"

Perhaps the reason Walt burned Raft I wasn't Island-influenced. He possibly overheard Michael talking about handing him off to someone else when they got to LA. And I guess you could say Walt unintentionally lead to the burning of Raft II as well.

"I guess you weren't meant to make this flight." No kidding. Aside from Hurley's flashback, here are other instances of Numbers: Kate references to a previous episode about her $23,000 reward, Sawyer rounds off Hurley's lotto money (which was $156 million) to $160 million (Why would he do that? Unless Hurley used that rounded figure in his note, but why?), and if you count "Exodus" I, II & III as one single episode, there are 23 episodes in this season. (The recap special doesn't count) [EDIT: Also, with Arzt's death, there are now 42 survivors not including the baby] TVTome's got in-depth references to a lot of the numbers in Hurley's flashback. Hot damn I love these numbers. Perhaps...too much... :evil:


I could have sworn that Hurley passed Arzt at the airport, yet when Hurley got to the plane, Arzt was already on...that's strange...Arzt was second-to-next in line for the baggage check. Hurley had to go find a scooter, come back to the checking area's disabled lane, and navigate the crowds in the scooter. Arzt could easily have gotten to the plane before Hurley. And Arzt's death was easily the most shocking thing so far in the series. (I mean "shocking" in terms of sheer surprise. The most emotionally compelling "shocking" moment, for me, was the revelation that Locke was paralyzed in his first spotlight episode.)

New rating system! Guess why! (I'm such a geek)
Lost 1x24: "Exodus" part II - 4 8 15 16 23 42
Lost 1x25: "Exodus" part III - 4 8 15 16 23 42
Lost 1x23-1x25: "Exodus" story arc - 4 8 15 16 23 42
Lost season one - 4 8 15 16 23 42
(4=no stars, 42=*****)

(Holy crap this was a long post. Sorry for rambling.)

[Yojimbo]

Kudos for the great call, Fone Bone.

When I was watching the episode, it seemed how odd the monster resembled the Predator with the cloaking ability so I seem to think it is some top secret military weapon and similar but uncontrollable ones lie within the hatch. And perhaps, the one that is 'hope' is one for which Locke is destined to pilot, wait that sounds far too much like a lost Gundam script.

But the Others' interest in Walt is still moot. Walt was able to corporealize the monster as a polar bear in an episode way back, unless one of the quirks of the machine is that it can channel its target's thoughts back at them in order to paralyze them and simply allow the machine/monster to attack swiftly. The only other idea I can think of is the Others need children to work on mining or on the technology since children are said to be more receptive.

And Ethan, was he an Other? I seem to to think he was with Danielle since they both wanted Claire's baby. Otherwise, it doesn't entirely fit with the Others. And they have a boat, why build a third one when you steal one; seems likely to become a second season sub-plot if Michael and company can make it back to shore.

[ManicWebb]

...uhh, who? Who is Alex?
Danielle (the crazy French lady) said she had a daughter named Alex, but The Others stole her one night. Danielle has been on the island for 16 years, which implies her daughter has to be a teenager by now.

There was a young woman among the people who kidnapped Walt and blew up the raft. At least I think there was a woman among them, as I think she was the one who blew up the raft. If the kidnappers are The Others, and that really was a woman among them, then there's a chance that she was Danielle's daughter.

[raykremer]

I taped GMA in order to see the lost, um, Lost scene. Here it is:

Danielle on the beach, eating the contents of a bird's egg raw.
Charlie: She's a nutter.
Camera cuts to Charlie hanging laundry while Claire holds her baby.
Charlie: Couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. She tried to blow my head off in the bloody jungle with no reason whatsoever. She says she heard whispers. That doesn't mean anything, Claire. Whispers...
Claire: When Ethan took me, however I got away, I knew they'd be back.
Charlie: Is that why... you did not name the baby.
Claire kisses the baby's forehead.

[Harley_Quinn]

I taped GMA in order to see the lost, um, Lost scene. Here it is:

Danielle on the beach, eating the contents of a bird's egg raw.
Charlie: She's a nutter.
Camera cuts to Charlie hanging laundry while Claire holds her baby.
Charlie: Couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. She tried to blow my head off in the bloody jungle with no reason whatsoever. She says she heard whispers. That doesn't mean anything, Claire. Whispers...
Claire: When Ethan took me, however I got away, I knew they'd be back.
Charlie: Is that why... you did not name the baby.
Claire kisses the baby's forehead.
Thanks for the recap!