C&C - "Metropolis" [5/14]

[The Landstander]

And holding off Paranoia Agent for a week is this movie with a cool name!

[Tienshin]

So this is the movie about Superman right? :confused:

[vegetable]

And holding off Paranoia Agent for a week is this movie with a cool name!

2 weeks even!

[maximumzero]

Wait, I thought this came on in about an hour and a half...did I miss something?

[Tienshin]

Wait, I thought this came on in about an hour and a half...did I miss something?

It's already over. Some credits rolled, stuff happened, then some more stuff happened, ending credits rolled.

It was pretty awesome.

[TnAdct1]

So this is the movie about Superman right? :confused: Nope. Metropolis is a an anime version of a manga by Osamu Tezuka (Astroboy, Unico) that's inspired by the Fritz Lang movie of the same name.

[Tienshin]

Nope. Metropolis is a an anime version of a manga by Osamu Tezuka (Astroboy, Unico) that's inspired by the Fritz Lang movie of the same name.

Well count me out then. :mad:

[Discloner]

It's already over. Some credits rolled, stuff happened, then some more stuff happened, ending credits rolled.

It was pretty awesome.I loved it when that fluffy white rabbit did all that stuff. It seriously made me consider my own existance in the universe and totally put my life into perspective.

[Tienshin]

I loved it when that fluffy white rabbit did all that stuff. It seriously made me consider my own existance in the universe and totally put my life into perspective.

Stop using the dope you hippy.

[Beat]

$5 on this being the lowest rated airing since the comedy infusion.

[Space Cadet]

$5 on this being the lowest rated airing since the comedy infusion.
Futurama is still here, so I doubt that.

[Discloner]

Stop using the dope you hippy.But it's making One Piece far more enjoyable...

[Tienshin]

But it's making One Piece far more enjoyable...

Not even an ice cooled two foot glass bong filled with the finest of...uh, smoking tobacco could make One Piece enjoyable.

Well, maybe it could, but I wouldn't know since I am adamant in my refusal to watch it.

[Discloner]

Well, maybe it could, but I wouldn't know since I am adamant in my refusal to watch it.Then you certainly are a greater man then I.










Oh, and...Metropolis....yeah. Its coming on soon and looks interesting.

[Animeforever'04]

got dibs on edits!

[blue_blood]

I remember seeing this movie on showtime two years ago and I liked it. so should you.

[Railith]

If I remember the old dude gains super human strength by merely turning off the lights, I mean he takes out like three guys at once.

[shoujoaifan]

Hmmm, a condensed movie of Osamu Tezuka's Metropolis. The visuals are AMAZING, downright beautiful, but it could be a bunch of pyscho babble squeezed into too little time. Hopes not too high, but looks like it could handle philosophy better than GITS, WR, and WHR.

[Space Cadet]

Hmm, TV-14. I always thought of the movie as TV-PG.

[zmanjz]

I've got this on DVD.

Best Anime Soundtrack Ever.

Ray Charles' music makes me cry every time I hear the song... you'll know what I mean

[Demonic Raven]

Subtitles? But they don't even match up with what the person is saying...

[Dogasu]

Wait...subtitles?

Are they airing the dub with the subtitles for the sub turned on?

[UberMonkey]

Wait, subtitles?

EDIT: Ha, is there an echo here? Anyways, they're gone now.

[maximumzero]

Someone over at Williams Street left on the Japanese Subtitles over the English Voice track...yikes.

[Dogasu]

So I guess someone noticed the error and quickly turned the subtitles off.

By the way...widescreen = happy Dogasu.

[beren]

there are always subtitles at that part, it is part of the movie.

[Artimus Gigan]

Marduke headshot left intact...

It woulda have ben better if they left the subs on for the beginnign with the japanese font....so we could read it

[Duke]

It's finally happened. After all the complaints, Cartoon Network is doing just what anime fans wanted them to do.

They're airing an anime subbed.

True, the voices are in English, but it's still subbed! SUBBED!!!!

[UberMonkey]

there are always subtitles at that part, it is part of the movie.Uhm, I'm pretty sure I would've remembered that before.

I'm betting whoever set up the tapes mistook that sequence as part of the credits or something.

EDIT: Wait, it is that way on the DVD? I don't own this personally, but I don't remember it being on the DVD. Weird.

[Lord Dalek]

Best Anime Soundtrack Ever.
I know. I own it.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

love the atmosphere and character style but hate the usual suspects of type-cast dub voices

[Lord Dalek]

It's finally happened. After all the complaints, Cartoon Network is doing just what anime fans wanted them to do.

They're airing an anime subbed.

True, the voices are in English, but it's still subbed! SUBBED!!!!I find this ironic since you couldn't turn the subs off on the dvd either.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

pero? Big O referenced this movie in more then one way huh?

[Sprocket]

pero? Big O referenced this movie in more then one way huh?

Actually, this movie, like every other Tezuka production, uses the 'star system', which takes characters from previously used works.

Things to note:

1) This is the first production made where the 'Rock' character is a villian. He was originally created as a boy detective 'Rock Holme' (Sherlock Holmes), and used in many other works in various character types.

2) Pero has only been used once before. In an Astro Boy story, a villain was kidnapping dogs and putting their brains into robots that could talk and fight, but had latent dog instincts. One of the robots had the brain of Shunasku Ban's (Astro Boy's teacher) dog, Pero, and that became the focus of the story.

[SirLemming]

For a moment I thought Adult Swim had another huge infamous moment on their hands with those subtitles.


Hmm, TV-14. I always thought of the movie as TV-PG.But it's PG-13.

[Lord Dalek]

Actually, this movie, like every other Tezuka production, uses the 'star system', which takes characters from previously used works.

Things to note:

1) This is the first production made where the 'Rock' character is a villian. He was originally created as a boy detective 'Rock Holme' (Sherlock Holmes), and used in many other works in various character types.

2) Pero has only been used once before. In an Astro Boy story, a villain was kidnapping dogs and putting their brains into robots that could talk and fight, but had latent dog instincts. One of the robots had the brain of Shunasku Ban's (Astro Boy's teacher) dog, Pero, and that became the focus of the story.It should also be mentioned that, with the exception of Kenichi and Duke Red, none of these characters* appeared in the original Metropolis manga from 1949.

*Yes, not even Tima

[shoujoaifan]

Giant Catfish! As big as a SUBMARINE! Just like that one right next to it. (I'm assuming they're underwater. What happened, global warming? Or did they run out of land, so they went underwater and underground?)

Talk about some major family problems.

[Scirel]

Why is everything so colorful?

By now, even thought his pobably came before either series, I can`t help but relate the art style and story themes with kikaider and cyborg 009.

[EightOh]

Haven't seen this in, like, two years, but it's an awesome movie.


I've got this on DVD.

Best Anime Soundtrack Ever.

Ray Charles' music makes me cry every time I hear the song... you'll know what I mean God, yes.

[Umino]

Why is everything so colorful?

By now, even thought his pobably came before either series, I can`t help but relate the art style and story themes with kikaider and cyborg 009.
Well, the manga was made around Cyborg 009. Maybe even eariler.

[Sprocket]

It should also be mentioned that, with the exception of Kenichi and Duke Red, none of these characters* appeared in the original Metropolis manga from 1949.

*Yes, not even Tima

Shunsaku Ban did.

So did Lawton, though with a slightly different character design, and Tima is partially based on Metropolis' 'Mitchy' and the female android from Pheonix 2072.

[Sandoz]

Giant Catfish! As big as a SUBMARINE! Just like that one right next to it. (I'm assuming they're underwater. What happened, global warming? Or did they run out of land, so they went underwater and underground?) They're not underwater, that was a giant fishtank.


1) This is the first production made where the 'Rock' character is a villian. He was originally created as a boy detective 'Rock Holme' (Sherlock Holmes), and used in many other works in various character types. Are we just talking about animated productions here? Because there was an identical "Roc" who was a villain in Tezuka's Phoenix manga.

[Sprocket]

Are we just talking about animated productions here? Because there was an identical "Roc" who was a villain in Tezuka's Phoenix manga.

My God, how did I forget that? I read it, for crying out loud!

My bad.

[Lord Dalek]

Shunsaku Ban did.
Darn forgot about Ban!


and Tima is partially based on Metropolis' 'Mitchy' and the female android from Pheonix 2072.That still doesn't mean she appeared in the manga.

[vegetable]

I'm very much enjoying the 1920s atmosphere of the movie. I just hope a depression isn't on the horizon.

[Youko Recca]

Visuals and music are, obviously, great. Characters and the world are very diverse too, just how I like it. And I'm liking this so far.

[Lord Dalek]

The problem I have with Metropolis doesn't come up until the end, and to avoid spoilers I'll just point out it's very "Otomo-esque".

[Tienshin]

I'm very much enjoying the 1920s atmosphere of the movie. I just hope a depression isn't on the horizon.

FDR , Churchill, Stalin, and Hitler are all dead so I hope you are right.

Oh, Tojo and Mussolini too.

FDR http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/Tienshin/emot-911.gif

[Master Moron]

Marduke headshot left intact...

It woulda have ben better if they left the subs on for the beginnign with the japanese font....so we could read it

Uhhh...I think that was just the FBI warning...or whatever the Japanese equivalent of the FBI is...wait...they shouldn't air the FBI warning when they air it on TV...should they?

[shoujoaifan]

It should also be mentioned that, with the exception of Kenichi and Duke Red, none of these characters* appeared in the original Metropolis manga from 1949.

*Yes, not even TimaShe's loosely based off the manga's robot, right? The manga robot star, from what little I've read about it--has the ability to change genders with a push of a button, but was primarily a guy throughout the manga--or did I get that wrong?

WOOOOOOO! David/Stephan has now TOPPED his roles as Naota's cat and that mentally challenged man with the duck shirt from Zatch Bell as his weirdest roles.......

.......hmmm, am I forgeting something? Oh yeah. "EVAR!!!!!"

[maximumzero]

What does "EMOTION" and the shiney circle thingy at the beginning of the film mean, anyway? I've always wondered that...

[Lord Dalek]

She's loosely based off the manga's robot, right? The manga robot star, from what little I've read about it--has the ability to change genders with a push of a button, but was primarily a guy throughout the manga--or did I get that wrong?
You got it right. As Sprocket all ready mentioned, Tima is a new character based off Mitch from the Metropolis manga and the robot chick from Phoenix 2072.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

no!! fifi! :crying:

[SirLemming]

What does "EMOTION" and the shiney circle thingy at the beginning of the film mean, anyway? I've always wondered that...It's just a company logo. A REALLY elaborate one. It's on other movies.

[Youko Recca]

Woah, his crotch must really hurt after that jump.

[X-ville Solid]

Okay just bearly seen the movie but what up that guy with the red shirt? Isn't he just a little trigger happy with his gun.

I'am liking the movie.

[zmanjz]

no!! fifi! :crying:

It gets worse :crying: :crying:

Tima... so innocent, she's Angelic.

[maximumzero]

It's just a company logo. A REALLY elaborate one. It's on other movies.

I know that. But what is it? The animation studio? The distributor? What?

[TnAdct1]

I know that. But what is it? The animation studio? The distributor? What? Emotion is a name that Bandai Visual uses when it distributes anime in Japan.

[shoujoaifan]

You got it right. As Sprocket all ready mentioned, Tima is a new character based off Mitch from the Metropolis manga and the robot chick from Phoenix 2072.Thanks! (What's Phoenix 2072? :sweat: Another manga done by the same author?)

2 small problems so far:

1. The uncle doesn't seem to worried about his nephew being missing. At least be upset that he may be dead until you founf out about the sewers, and THEN rush to find him as soon as possible! Quit giving the robot detective cliche advice phrases and stuffing your piehole!

2. That was the most stereotypical black man I have ever seen in anime, not to mnetion he looked like he was a 80's stereotypical black man in anime, when the atmosphere is early 1900's.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

pero is dead to along with the guy who killed him :( this movie is turning really sad :(

wow Rock got beaten up by Kenichi's uncle :) he sure had it coming to the psycho!

[zmanjz]

pero is dead to along with the guy who killed him :( this movie is turning really sad :(

wow Rock got beaten up by Kenichi's uncle :) he sure had it coming to the psycho!

Kenichi's Uncle should have kept pounding.


Duke Red.... the fool.


oh no. :crying:

they couldn't let her be. oh no, Dukr Red and Rock just had to be SO selfish.

and now Mankind has an hour

[shoujoaifan]

NO, not Pero!

DAMN IT, when will anime characters ever realize, that if humans strive for peace through violence instead of talking, that HUMANS WILL STRIVE FOR PEACE THROUGH VIOLENCE INSTEAD OF TALKING! Talking about how they DON'T talk ISN'T going to help! Humans are irrational, so how would pointing out how irrational they are make them any more rational, being how irrational they are! I'm trying to be a bit sarcastic, but damn it if it isn't true.

(To their credit, Pero was programmed to do that, no choice, and the one kid did admit their own unstability.)

Man, everyone's going pyscho. Meant to post this 1/2 hour ago or so, and now Gun Boy is off his rocker, Tima is suffering from Keniechi-loss syndrome, thinks he's her father, and NOW the detective uncle ACTUALLY cares about his nephew. SURE he said he could handle himself beforehand, but honestly, nearly dying in a fire doesn't faze him, but the government taking him is what it takes to get Wise Old Detective Uncle caring.

EDIT: Meant to post this even earlier, but my computer is slow right now.

[shoujoaifan]

Wow, Tima's pissed. So she's she's losing her mind in the system, so what's left wants to destroy humans, and forgot about Keniechi? Or did she forget him or didn't care BEFORE hooking up. I'm trying to figure out why she would want to connect at all.

[zmanjz]

:crying: :crying:

4 years later... I'm messed up as much as the first time. :crying:

I hate that. Between Nina Tucker, Tima, and the Tachikomas... Adult Swim's been rough on the whole "killing of innocence" thing lately.


I don't handle that well. (First it makes me sad, and then my anger (rage) kicks in...)

So, what next? they gonna kill off Shippo, Alphonse Elric, and Kilala?

Oh wait! How about Maes Hughes' little Daughter? she's sweet, and I'm emotionally invested a little in her character.


this is the reason why, even though this is an excellent movie, I just can't watch it that often.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

wow Rock was really dedicated to that madman :eek: everythings falling apart and Tima is gone to :( :( :( Fifi is looking well but why is everyone rejoicing? :confused: really sad but good movie


why the superspeed credits? its not like they don't have more then enough spare time :confused: umm sorry AS but PHF is not something I want to watch after a movie like this!

[Arxane]

Fifi is looking well but why is everyone rejoicing? :confused: really sad but good movie
I believe it had to do with the fact that robots cannot have human names. However, Tima was a robot and she had a human name, so the robots recognized her humanity through her robot exterior and made that known by calling her by a human name.

or something.

[AndrewSP]

It's been a while since i last saw Metropolis all the way through.
Still as good as ever.

[shoujoaifan]

Its great that one of his friends lived (FiFi), but seriously, WHAT THE HELL? Why was Keniechi happy? Was he glad over having a part of her to remind himself/bury? Did Tima broadcast "Who am I?" from when she said it before falling, or did she broadcast it from somewhere else after falling, and thus lived? (Probably not.) Did she broadcast her mind before her body died? And what about her energy problems that doctor said he was going to fix and activate her? Did he or not? Was that part of the problem with her willingly going into the machine, and then losing it?

In retrospect, Keniechi (or whatever spelling) was probably happy to have a piece of her to remind him of her, or to give a proper burial, or HELL (again), given the ambigous ending, might think she was still alive.

[KingDead]

The Ray Charles Destruction sequence is classic, and it gets to me when I watch it. It's a cliche ending, admittingly, but you know a movie's good when it pulls off a cliche so well done and effictively.

When I saw the movie when it came out in theaters, I could've sworn there was something attached to the end of the credits - a faded picture of Kenichi and a bunch of those robots in front of "Kenichi's and Tima's Robot Shop" or something like that.

But when I went to the DVD to get a shot of it for the thread since it didn't appear in the TV showing, it didn't show up there either. Anyone else recall seeing that, or is my memory playing tricks on me?

shoujoaifan: The part of Tima Kenichi was given was her heart, I think, so either he's happy to have such a meaningful part, or there's a chance of rebuilding her?

[Sandoz]

Rock is one of my favorite anime villains of all time. He's twisted all right (and pretty much snaps at the end), but at the same time I feel sorry for him because he's so desperate for love and appreciation from his "father."

Yes, a very "Otomo-esque" ending. Still, it brings a tear to my eye every time. I absolutely love the music; it sets the mood perfectly, and the use of "I Can't Stop Loving You" was inspired.

[SirLemming]

Say whatever you want about this movie, it is almost undeniably a visual masterpiece. The city is so detailed and overall memorable. It feels huge and intricate.


why the superspeed credits? its not like they don't have more then enough spare time :confused: umm sorry AS but PHF is not something I want to watch after a movie like this! Yeah, I wish they coulda just let the credits be, since there wasn't quite enough time to run "Perfect Hair Forever" anyway...

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Hmm, TV-14. I always thought of the movie as TV-PG.
Yeah I was kinda having a "what the heck" moment on that one too.

[JetMaster5]

...that was so sad...

The beginning was the boring part to me. And the movie doesn't really pick up until around halfway through. But when it does pick up, it's grabs you. It clings on to your heart and doesn't let go. And when it's finally time to let go, it rips a piece of your heart away from you, making you cry as you watch Tima fall. And you can't really blame anyone. There are no true villians in this movie. Rock was desperate for his "father's" love and acceptance that he'd go through anything to get that. The "Father" wants the doctor to build Tima because he wants his daughter again. Tima believed that she was a human until she realizes that her body is artificial. That made her doubt herself and destroy the building.

What they wanted wasn't bad. But man, they were all so selfish. That was just sad. I'm glad I didn't flip the channel after the boring introduction.

[One Radical Dude]

A TV-14 rating doesn't surprise me that much, since the film got a film rating of PG-13.

[PickHut]

The beginning was somewhat slow, but I guess it was needed to build up the story and the characters. It was interesting watching all these characters and all the struggles they went through throughout the movie; almost every person that had a speaking role seemed to have a purpose. Man, not only was Rock ridiculously trigger-happy, but REALLY obsessed with his father, right up to the very end where he wanted to kill him before the robots could.

As for more about the pace of the movie, there were times I felt that it just really took its time, either to show off the animation or fill up time, while other moments had me thinking, "That all happened in a couple of minutes?!". Basically what I'm saying is, that, the pacing was erratic at times. Seeing the tower fall apart to the tune of a Ray Charles was definitely interesting, certainly didn't expect to hear that play.

And I'd like to say more, but....well, I'm getting tired, so I won't:p . I give Metropolis a B+.

[Tygger Redclaw]

That pretty much sums up how I felt after watching Metropolis, pleasantly surprised.

I usually don't miss a good sci-fi story and this one is no exception.
I'm not sure what I was expecting from this movie, but what it delivered was an emotional story packed with action, and some rather deep philosophical issues. I felt that they mixed the futuristic setting with the early 20th century feel quite well.
The problem I have with a lot of movies is it's hard for me to develop a real connection to the characters in such a short amount of time. However, I'll admit that watching Tima fall from Kenichi's grip really tugged at my heart strings.:crying:

[JDNobodi]

I find it odd that so many of you like this movie when the critics panned this movie when it first came stateside. The critics acted like this was the worst movie made. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this movie was good.

[Conan-san]

Critics can't usaly review for crap.

Metropolis is, and still is, one of my favroute anime movies of all time. After you get past the WTF factor of the "I can't stop loveing you" music at the end, you learn to appreciate it and why the directors chose it.

One thing that bothers me, when that bald aide to the presendent is shot, a candle appers above his head for about 3 seconds before he falls down dead, is that a reffernce to somthing of Tezuka's?

[JDNobodi]

One thing that bothers me, when that bald aide to the presendent is shot, a candle appers above his head for about 3 seconds before he falls down dead, is that a reffernce to somthing of Tezuka's? Yes, that character is based on Tezuka's childhood friend. It's is said Tezuka and his friends used to make fun of one friend who had a depression on the back of his head. They said the depression could hold a candle. Gee, with friends like that, who needs enemies? "Candle" is a recurring character in Tezuka's work. I think "Candle" was always a villain.

[Sprocket]

2. That was the most stereotypical black man I have ever seen in anime, not to mnetion he looked like he was a 80's stereotypical black man in anime, when the atmosphere is early 1900's.

Who, the food vendor that keeps stopping Ban? That's another re-used Tezuka character, Kim Sanaku, who was an evil businessman in Astro Boy, and based off someone Tezuka knew in real life.

[Sprocket]

Yes, that character is based on Tezuka's childhood friend. It's is said Tezuka and his friends used to make fun of one friend who had a depression on the back of his head. They said the depression could hold a candle. Gee, with friends like that, who needs enemies? "Candle" is a recurring character in Tezuka's work. I think "Candle" was always a villain.

Actually, his name is 'Acetelyne Lamp', Lamp for short, and yes, he's always been a bad guy, and his shtick is that in moments of profound thought, or shock, or surprise, a candle appears above his head, and this has continuted throughout his manga and anime appearances.

[Umino]

But when I went to the DVD to get a shot of it for the thread since it didn't appear in the TV showing, it didn't show up there either. Anyone else recall seeing that, or is my memory playing tricks on me?
http://www.animeprime.com/reports/metro.shtml

It was removed, for whatever reason, on the DVD. It's a shame they cut it out, it was a nice picture showing how Keichi is doing now in Metropolis.

[Animeforever'04]

crap! i forgot to mention they left F--- robots graffti in! :eek:

[Duke]

2) Pero has only been used once before. In an Astro Boy story, a villain was kidnapping dogs and putting their brains into robots that could talk and fight, but had latent dog instincts. One of the robots had the brain of Shunasku Ban's (Astro Boy's teacher) dog, Pero, and that became the focus of the story.If you notice, when Ban named Pero, he said that he once had a dog by the same name...

Oh, and when I first watched this a few years ago, Rock, for some reason, reminded me of ProtoMan.

[JDNobodi]

Actually, his name is 'Acetelyne Lamp', Lamp for short, and yes, he's always been a bad guy, and his shtick is that in moments of profound thought, or shock, or surprise, a candle appears above his head, and this has continuted throughout his manga and anime appearances.
Doh.:eek::ack: I had this nagging thought on the back of my head that his name was "Lamp". Sorry for the misimformation folks.

[True Noir]

I passed out near the end. It was alright. If I was more awake while watching it, I definately think it would be better. I guess from all that I've heard. I should give it another try.

[bigddan11]

This movie was interesting, but it could have been done a little bit faster. The entire Tower of Babel aspect seemed cliche, but it made it interesting. I'm glad they didn't run this when Astroboy was on though. Too many people would want to say it's a Astroboy wannabe.

[TnAdct1]

While we're on the subject of Metropolis, here's an AMV that I saw at Otakon 2 years ago that uses Metropolis as its source:

Urban Ragnarok by thefinalact.net (http://www.thefinalact.net/videos/Urban_Ragnarok_v1.00_2Mbps.mpg)

[Lord Dalek]

What does "EMOTION" and the shiney circle thingy at the beginning of the film mean, anyway? I've always wondered that...Emotion is the Japanese film/video distribution arm of Bandai Visual. Those Moai heads have been popping up since at least 1986.

[Beat]

I find it odd that so many of you like this movie when the critics panned this movie when it first came stateside. The critics acted like this was the worst movie made. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this movie was good.
Really? I heard critics loved this film.

First off, for everyone who says Adult Swim Comedy has a unique visual style, shut up, and look at some stills from this picture.

Thank you.

Metropolis is a visual feast that takes the animated and CG mediums, and goes nuts with them. Everything in the movie doesn't look real, but looks so convincing and utterly original that you feel compelled to pause the movie JUST to look at the scenery.

As for the story, well, yes it can be erratic. It takes elements from both its namesakes and the ensuing puree isn't 100% perfect. But it does work. It manages to create something effective making you care for the characters and what happens.

And the Kubrick-esque use of Ray Charles music was perfect.

This movie gets an A- on account of erratic pacing and plot points, but the incredible visual, audio, and good characterizations make up for it.

[Master Moron]

I find it odd that so many of you like this movie when the critics panned this movie when it first came stateside. The critics acted like this was the worst movie made.

No, they didn't. It got 90% on the tomatometer.


Really? I heard critics loved this film.


You are correct. I don't know where JDNobodi got the idea that all the critics hated this film. Most seemed to like it.

[Kanzel]

If I remember the old dude gains super human strength by merely turning off the lights, I mean he takes out like three guys at once.Makes more sense than what really happened. :shrug:

[Lord Dalek]

You are correct. I don't know where JDNobodi got the idea that all the critics hated this film. Most seemed to like it.There was however Richard Roeper who didn't like it because characters had quote "big eyes".

[IWDP Lim]

I tried watching this thing, but, I gave up a little after Tima's creator died. It just started feeling too much like a raplh Bashki movie, so I went and did some other stuff while it was on in the background. Then I went back to it when the mayor got Tima back on the stairs, and, it was like I never left it. How long was that anyway, I swear it felt like an hour and a half, but I'm probably wrong.

Only part I did like was that Ray Charles bit, but even that could've been done a bit better...

oH well, at least I saw the movie anyway.

[JDNobodi]

No, they didn't. It got 90% on the tomatometer.



You are correct. I don't know where JDNobodi got the idea that all the critics hated this film. Most seemed to like it.
I don't remember where I saw a review at, but somebody panned it bad. I remember thinking to myself, "It wasn't that bad."

[Delthayre]

I thought it was a pretty neat film. The character designs, all though somewhat silly, were intriguing. I especially liked the soundtrack. The 20s style New Orleans/Chicago Dixieland style jazz did wonders for the atmosphere. The animation was visually impressive as well.

The ending destruction sequences was nicely played out. It certainly had some of the airs of the world being destroyed as We'll Meet Again plays sequence from Doctor Strangelove, or How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb (one of my favorite films), which wins me over.

All though I must admit that while the ending was visually compelling, it didn't catch me very well emotionally. I'll blame that on the central characters being children, I don't like children.

**** out of *****

[Lord Dalek]

If you haven't done so yet... (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005YSSM/qid=1116193646/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-7870382-3973556)

[maximumzero]

I have this film on DVD so I've seen it before, but let me just say that my favorite scenes are:

1) The "Emergency Robot Rescue" that occurs...basically the scene involving the fire-extinguishing robots rushing to the Doc's lab.

2) Kenichi picking up Pero's hat from the ground, dusting it off, and saying... "They call this a revolution..." And Tima's line afterwards involving "Why must humans always harm robots."

3) Finally, the confrontation on the stairs in the snow.

Edit: Even though the dub is sufficent, the Japanese language track captures the characters so much better than the English voice actors do. Not by acting performance, but just by sound. Ban's voice sounds like you would expect it to sound. It seems to match his character so well. And Tima obviously sounds much better.

[maximumzero]

Any requests for screengrabs?

[Vu Man]

So that's what the candle was all about. I never new Tezuka had recurring characters in his stories with similar characteristics. As always, David Lucas voicing a character is welcome.

[Nyarl]

I would have liked Metropolis better if it focused a little more on plot and less on showing off the visuals. More time could have been spent on the political maneuvering. Too much time was spent on the chase through the levels. There were lots of pretty textures, though.

[herbkir]

Metropolis was okay except for the part at the end where Kenichi's uncle left the kid to fend for himself in a city that's been thrown into turmoil by the attempt at revolution and the destruction of the Ziggarut. And then there's the trademark ambiguous ending. I'd have liked it better if the photo after the credits (mentioned by a previous poster here) had been included to give a closure. Or if it was made unmistakably clear that Tima had returned to the personality Kenichi cared about before meeting her end. It was an artsy, emotional film that made for a good show, but I kinda doubt it's the kind of thing that most of the AS audience wants. (^_*)

[Steiner]

Can someone tell me what happened at the end? I wasn't going to stay up that late, so I recorded it, but I had the speed on SP (2 hours of tape). It stopped recording right as that throne was opening up. I'm sure there wasn't much left, but if someone could tell me what happened I'd really appreciate it.

[Vu Man]

Steiner you missed one of the greatest destruction sequences in AS history. It always surprises me how much can kabloom with Tezuka character designs.

[Steiner]

Steiner you missed one of the greatest destruction sequences in AS history. It always surprises me how much can kabloom with Tezuka character designs.
Seriously? Well, I guess I could rent it to see the ending (I saw it at my local Blockbuster).

[Crimefighter]

I was taping the movie while watching it, figuring it out was gonna be 2 1/2 hours and waited until the timer shut off to hit record for the rest of it.

[Artimus Gigan]

I don't remember where I saw a review at, but somebody panned it bad. I remember thinking to myself, "It wasn't that bad."It was Entertainment Weekly that panned it

[Gatomon41]

Could'nt watch it on AS when it aired, so I rented the DVD.

I have to say the movie is very interesting, with some visual techqiues that remind me of German expressionists films. Very beautiful animation, and a strange story. The charecter designs seem out of place in a moive like this Alot more violence than I expected. The End of the Zigurat is remisance of "Dr. Strangelove". The ening, while totally unkown, seems to be just right for this film.

Overall, I thought it was a good movie, part Proto-Cyberpunk, part German Expressionism, mostly Animation.

I give it a 4 out of 5.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

This is actually a good movie to watch at midnight. Lots of atmosphere, trippy designs and some warped emotional content. I think it's actually pretty underrated--it's one of the better anime films that was in theatres.

[Mighty_Bojingo]

Is it just me, or did anyone else get some major 'Astro Boy' vibe from this movie? At first I thought it was a 'pre-quel' to the Astro Boy series. And I also thought that something would happen to Kenichi at the very end causing him to become Astro Boy in the beginning of the series. But I guess there's not much of a connection.

By the way, I didnt read all the posts in this thread, I already spent too much time reading all of the posts on the Inuyasha movie, I got lazy. So sorry if this was already mentioned somewhere.

[Gatomon41]

Is it just me, or did anyone else get some major 'Astro Boy' vibe from this movie? .Well, Metropolis is based on an early manga by the creator of "Astro Boy".

The two series are unrelated.

BTW: Does the makers of the movie ever acknowledge the orginal inspiration for Metropolis? I mean, did anyone hear if the makers of the movie credit Fritz Lang's Metroolis as a major Inspiration?

[Swordfish_II]

BTW: Does the makers of the movie ever acknowledge the orginal inspiration for Metropolis? I mean, did anyone hear if the makers of the movie credit Fritz Lang's Metroolis as a major Inspiration?
Tezuka was only inspired by a single still image of a robot from Lang's film.

[Mighty_Bojingo]

That might explain why I thought It was an Astro Boy prequal. Kenichi just looks so much like Astro boy to me.

[Chosen Raven]

I don't suppose anyone knows when this is going to air again? I had set my DVR to record it, but because the schedualing got screwed up, it shut off in the thrown room(thanks AS...really).

The movie was alright. I'd have to say it was the most visually beautiful anime I've ever scene. The plot was "meh", though.

And Pero was right. How could humans use violence to bring about peace? That whole World War II thing? It would have just blown over if we hadn't fought back. *The previous paragraph was sponsored by sarcasm, and co-sponsored by extreme sarcasm*

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

That might explain why I thought It was an Astro Boy prequal. Kenichi just looks so much like Astro boy to me.
Same creator, same drawing style. It's the signature of a single creative hand on different works, of course. Like Miyazaki's character's--all of them look the same.

Osamu Tezuka, of course, is only the most important person in manga and anime history. Really, you should learn about him.

[G1Ravage]

My program guide said the movie was running from Midnight to 2:00 AM, so that's what I set my DVR to record.

And the movie ends up running over by about 15 minutes. Adult Swim couldn't program the movie to run officially from Midnight to 2:30 AM? I mean Jesus Christ, now I can't see the ****ing end to the movie.

[Duke]

I mean Jesus Christ, now I can't see the ****ing end to the movie.You should be able to rent it from whatever local video rental store you go to. It's one of those anime movies that actually gets stocked in 90% of rental stores.