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Justice League 2000
12-08-2001, 01:46 PM
My ides would be Batman 5 I have robin batgirl and nightwing.
the villians would be manbat human bane no monster bane in batman and robin. 2 more clayface and joker and here the cast for a batman 5 movie

batman christian bale

robin frank numiz

batgirl jennifer love hewwit

nightwing unkown

manbat that guy toad from x-men

bane the rock

joker chris katan

clayface a robot voice ron pearlman

so what do you think of the cast ? :)

The Game
12-08-2001, 06:53 PM
The Rock as Bane? Please tell me that was a sick joke, becuase if The Rcok was Bane I might just jump off a cliff.

Honestly I'm not gonna lie: your cast is terrible. Malcolm in the Middle can't be Robin. JLH is hot, but she's just not Batgirl. I still think that Sarah Michelle Gellar should be Batgirl (with her natural hair, not the blonde). Chris Kattan as the Joker? Uh... No. Sorry but that guy would be the worst Joker ever. He's like two feet tall first of all, to puny and annoying to be Joker.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion.

GrayGhost
12-08-2001, 07:19 PM
I think he means Frankie Muniz for a Tim Drake "little" Robin like in the cartoon. That could work.

I think Chris Katan would be better as the Mad Hatter.

I also agree - SMG as Batgirl would be cool. But, I do think Jennifer Love Hewitt would be better.

Trent Lane
12-08-2001, 09:58 PM
Muniz would work as Tim Drake Robin. Keanu Reeves as Nightwing (I already hear the people booing tha choice- I DON'T CARE!!!). Keaton as Batman, and if not him, Clooney or that dude from Angel. Jessica Alba as the "new" Batgirl. Same Alfred, new commish, tho I have no idea as to who, and Scarecrow for your villain (Spacey straight out of Se7en, or Gary Oldman of 5th Element), with Mad Hatter possibly in it as well. A pyschological kind of movie....

Bobby Boy 101
12-08-2001, 10:45 PM
Batman-- i dunno, there's no perfect choice, but somebody big, like Mark Whalberg maybe

Batgirl--yes, SMG!!! although I never thought of JLH, thats a pretty good idea actually, she's pretty hot as a red-head

Robin--um. . .well, thats a tough one, Im kinda stumped. Maybe me, that would be awsome, LOL

Nightwing--Josh Hartnet--dude that guy is so cool, and hes like and Oscar-worthy actor

Catwoman--another tough one, if not Michelle pfeiffer, then i dont know who. if we're going for animated series, then maybe Cameron Diaz, who CAN fight and can do that sexy thing. . . ;)

and I need to go eat so im gonna leave it at that

The Guard
12-08-2001, 10:55 PM
I see no reason Frankie Muniz couldn't play Dick Grayson. Read Dark Victory.

FLIPMODE
12-09-2001, 03:42 AM
Nightwing- Tom Cruise.
I mean come on, the Nightwings current looks are based off of him, in the Comic book, especially when, Mcdaniel draws him. Especially the hair.

I actually found the Perfect ACTOR, to play Batman. The Best part is, (which it should be), he's relitivly unknown. I saw him on an Episode of some NBC sitcom, I looked in the Credits, and Jotted down his name. Now bare with me, I have to find it, but I do, Im going to get a Picture of this guy, and YOU tell me, he would'nt be the Best Batman. He's ogt the physique, good looks, height, and a Batman chin. You know, rugged, not pointy.

I look for his pic.

Oh yeah, and as for acting, hey, with Christopher Reeves they went the extra mile to make sure, he was THE Superman. I think the same should be done for the Bat.

FLIPMODE
12-09-2001, 04:18 AM
Okay I Found him. It turns out this guy has done alot of guest roles, on numerous shows. I most recently saw him, do a small part on this show called schwartz.

His name is Paul Satterfield. Here's 2 Pics I found.

http://store3.yimg.com/I/zonesofevil_1666_655952984

http://www.fortunecity.se/jarlkullen/bredvagen/83/paul17.jpg

Xtreme557
12-09-2001, 10:33 AM
Batman- David Boreanaz (Angel), watch an episode of Angel and tell me he couldn't do Bats.

Joker- Christan Bale (American Psyco), rent American Pysco and watch the scene where he's talking to his lawyer's answering machine and he's cracking up/going nuts. That laugh and pyscotic grin he makes are pure Joker.

Gordon- Kevin Spacey (Kpax)- He can just plain old act.

Alfred- The voice from BTAS and TNBA, if you ever saw the HBO behind the scene for Mask of the Phantasm they show the guy who does Alfred's voice, he looks just like him.

Harvey Dent- Dylan McDermot (The Pratice), He plays a great laywer

Trent Lane
12-09-2001, 01:06 PM
FLIPMODE, that guy isn't too much of a match for Bruce Wayne/ Batman, but he'd be PERFECT for Clark Kent/ Superman! He looks very much the part....

The Game
12-09-2001, 01:23 PM
Batman is too hard to pick. If you ask me, most of the guys you are suggesting are too young. I mean, if Nightwing and Tim Drake are in this, it's set after Batman and Robin, right? Or are we talking about Year One? I've lost track. David Boreanaz would be a good year one Batman. Maybe. I don't know, when it comes to picking Batman, I'm sooooo picky. I haven't liked any of the live action ones so far and I can't think of anyone. I think Kevin Spacey could be Scarecrow. That would be interesting. He's a very talented actor, a little weird, but that's perfect.

I don't know, but Frankie Muniz still seems like he would be an awful Tim Drake (I knew they were refering to him from the start). Personally, I think the best cast for most of the parts would be unknown... Like that guy FLIPMODE found... I could see him as Batman. Persoanlly, I think finding a good Batman is sooo much easier than finding a good Bruce. That's my biggest problem with Keaton- he just doesn't look like my mental picture of Bruce (plus he's too short to be Batman).

Tom Cruise as Nightwing? Uh, no. It seems that you guys don't have much concept of age... Nightwing is in his thirties correct? At this point, I might just go with Chris O'Donnel... No, what am I saying. I think Josh Hartnett might be a good nightwing! Well anyway, just some thoughts...

Justice League 2000
12-09-2001, 03:41 PM
you know what I change my mind WB should in do no batman 5
they should for the year one batman. :)

Kathy Kane
12-09-2001, 04:03 PM
If it was up to me, it the next bat film would be the Killing Joke by Alan Moore.

He could write the script, the director I would pick would be
Kathryn Bigalow-- Near Dark, Strange Days
alright here's my picks for the rest of the cast:

Batman-- Henry Rollins, no batnipples for this guy! :mad:
Barbra Gordon- Julieann Moore--- Hannibal
James Gordon-- James Coburn-- he's a tough old guy perfect for Gordon.
the Joker.. ok I know you guys are going to thow rocks at my pick but....what the hell.....Johnny Depp.
I think he could do it, in the killing joke, the joker is portrayed in a simpathic light, it tells of his origins. I think Depp has wide range of acting abilties, y'all should discount because of his heartrob statsis, form Benny and June to Donnie Brasco, the guy got range.

Ok now I'm off my soapbox, What'dya think?
Call me Kane

FLIPMODE
12-09-2001, 04:59 PM
Actually Nightwing is still in his 20's.

Think about it Like this, if Bruce took Dick in aroun lets say 11, That was around the time Bruce was only around 23.

I know...Tom Cruise, people just get mad hearing his name. But he does'nt seem that old. I think the key would be to Find some one who resembles Tom Cruise, just younger I guess. But the guy still needs stature to play Nightwing. He cant just be some skinny chump. Nightwings not as tall, as Bruce, but he's pretty Stocky.

Joker85
12-09-2001, 05:55 PM
I say, scrap the live action movie ideas and make more animated series movies, with Kevin Conroy, Loren Lester, mark Hamill etc. These have been much better than the live action( except for the first, which will always be my fav.) :)

X-human
12-09-2001, 06:42 PM
Actually, I'd like to see Johnny Depp as Batman. He's very good at looking the part, and would be able to pull off a difference between Batman and Bruce Wayne. But an unknown is most welcome for this role, or any roles in a Batman film. Someone who will sign on for several films, let's keep the same Bats this time around shall we?

I'd much rather see SMG play Supergirl (I'd like to see some test shots of Britney Spears in the red cape though). Batman's just a really hard film to cast for.

The Killing Joke should come after Year One, that'd be great. Set up the films with 2 or 3 good comic adaptations, and then see if they can pump out some original scripts once the wheels have been greased with the good stuff. And ditch the "love interest" hollywood, it just doesn't work for a man in tights.

GrayGhost
12-09-2001, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Xtreme557
Batman- David Boreanaz (Angel), watch an episode of Angel and tell me he couldn't do Bats.


I have watched that horrid show. He does not look like a Batman and most def. not a Bruce Wayne.

I think they should loose Joel so Kilmer could come back as Batman. In my eye he was a good as Keaton - he just did not have as good as of a script.

GrayGhost
12-09-2001, 10:49 PM
I agree - SMG would be a better Supergirl. I would also like to see Britney in that outfit :)

JLH would kick as Batgirl.

Batman - Val Kilmer

Batgirl - Jennifer Love Hewitt

Robin - Frankie Muniz or how about that other dude from Malcom in the Middle?

Nightwing - I agree, Keanu Reeves fits the part perfectly.

I would love to see it with Scarecrow and Mad hatter -t hat would rock.

I really don't need another movie with the Joker. It is always the Joker getting highlighted. I like Riddler and Mad Hatter much better.

James
12-10-2001, 04:44 PM
I'd rather have unknowns. Not a sell for the studio I know, but the past films are all proof that the actor's celeb baggage often gets in the way of the characters they portray. I want someone to portray the 'Riddler' not the 'Jim Carrey', The Penguin, not the 'Danny Devito'.

I want to watch a film. I'm fed up watching celeb spring boards dressed up as films. While I like Gellar in Buffy, the thought of her in Batman revolts me. It will be Miss Quip - SMG, not Batgirl.

Get people who we don't know so we can watch and enjoy a story without having to get past actors hammy egos diluting the characaters!

demon's head
12-10-2001, 11:35 PM
ugh...sarah michelle geller...jennifer love hewitt...please...those two may be pretty but do you really want the bat-universe to be shamed with their terrible acting presence...they couldn't act their way out of a paperbag, people...we want credible movies here, not bubblegum crap like "she's all that" and "bring it on"
I agree with many of you that if a batman movie is to happen it should be cast with unknowns that do not have "star" baggage...and that the movie should not include any such characters like nightwing, robin, batgirl...
this movie needs to make batman credible to the public again and not wreck the image just as schumaker did...it was tough enough for miller to ressurect batman from adam west...but setting the character afoul once more...

so no i do not have any cast suggestions at this time...
i will agree with
josh harnett - as nightwing (if there had to be one)
dylan mcdermott - as two-face
but that's it...and maybe beetlejuice from howard stern as robin...but seriously that's the last straw

FLIPMODE
12-11-2001, 04:24 AM
yes I agree, Those actresses are TERRIBLE for Batgirl. It's really not about filling the costume with some teen Idol. You also have to Consider, this is a character who EVENTUALLY get's paralized by the Joker. Can you see Oracle in these girls? No. So it's a waste of time. Barbara is smart, SMG and the other one, dont have that image. In fact I really could'nt say who does.

But with the exception of Robin, (because I think he's the Natural progression of the Batman story and most importantly CHARACTER), but I NEVER wanted to see Batgirl in the movie. I think what TOTALLY Dissed the comic books was that she had NO realtion to the Comissioner. Im not interested just because she's a girl fighting, the characters perdicament made her intersting.
Also Im tired of seeing pure amatures puting on costumes, and fighting along side what is to be the most accomplished human on earth. It took him years to hone his skills, it only takes them days. And their able to grasp the main concept of crime fighting. It makes Batman look less powerfull. It also get's on my nerves when I dont see them training. The only time I saw that was from TAS and you see Bruce sparring with a Young Dick Grayson.

But Later in the TNAOB, Tim just puts on the outfit. Just Terrible. And might I say his first episode was terribly drawn.

But I think the basics of Batman can be faithfully translated to screen without ANY Batgirl, in any movie. It's an overkill, and takes away from the Bat. But I think Robin and Nightwing is a natural progression. It's also a main event in the history of Batman. Dick Grayson is basically a Replica of Bruce Wayne, at around the same age Bruce Loss his Parents to criime. The scenerio allows Bruce to analyze himself as he was when he was ***** age. Now Robin in result is what Bruce Wayne COULD have been. When Bruce witnessed his parents murders, for the remaining years of his life, he searched the world, just to find himself, and find how he could cope with the grief. Being The Batman was the long awaited answer. All those years, he suffered. Now with Dick, it's the same scenerio, only Bruce changes the history for Dick. What he did for Dick would be like, the Grey Ghost, adopting Bruce Wayme, after his parents were killed. What Dick recieved was instant gratification, for his Parents Murders. And it explains, why his Personality is so Different from Batman's. Where as Bruce, had to struggle to get to that level of coping, Bruce basically handed it to Dick.

All that I think is vital, if done correctly, to a Good Batman movie. Batgirl does'nt have a great effect on the Legend of Batman.

The Game
12-12-2001, 03:40 PM
Why in god's name would we want to visualize an actress who we could see getting paralyzed? Just to fit in with comic book continuity? Who cares. I hate the entire idea of the Oracle and Babs getting paralyzed. I refuse to acknowledge it. First of all, most casual Batfans have no idea what the hell that is- just overconfident snob fans who think they know everything.

SMG is far from the perfect Batgirl- but critisizing other people's suggestions as beneath you is a sign of overwhelming arrogance. Of course you can disagree with other people's opinions (I don't like JLH has Batgirl for instance) but there is no reason to look down on other's opinions. To emphesize other's selections as "TERRIBLE" is more than ignorant, so why don't you back off- especially if you can't make a suggestion of your own.

FLIPMODE
12-12-2001, 04:22 PM
First of all, your right about one thing, I CAN have opinion. So beyond anything else, I think anyone who feels like they are being insulted by an Opinion, needs to get their act together. Im not the only one who thought those actresses are not right, and I was plainly agreeing with them.


Second: You said: "Who cares. I hate the entire idea of the Oracle and Babs getting paralyzed. I refuse to acknowledge it. First of all, most casual Batfans have no idea what the hell that is- just overconfident snob fans who think they know everything. "

And who's "more than Ignorant"? As you put it? That's just the facts of the comic book, nothing to be snobbish over. If you've seen every BTAS episode, your not considered an overconfident snob. The same goes for comic book readers.

And Lastly, for whatever reason your taking this too personally. Trust me my posts are never typed in a fit of rage. Im here because this seems to be the Best, Bataman board around, and this is the warm welcome? I love everything Batman related and can go on for hours, I was hoping others felt the same here.
But your contridicting yourself. Even wwithin this VERY same thresd, you did the exact same thing in response to my post:

FLIPMODE:" Nightwing- Tom Cruise.
I mean come on, the Nightwings current looks are based off of him, in the Comic book, especially when, Mcdaniel draws him. Especially the hair."

Then 2 replies later,

thegame8866:
"Tom Cruise as Nightwing? Uh, no. It seems that you guys don't have much concept of age... Nightwing is in his thirties correct? At this point, I might just go with Chris O'Donnel... No, what am I saying. I think Josh Hartnett might be a good nightwing! Well anyway, just some thoughts..."

Now from that I could have acted like you, and felt like I was Personally attacked, but I did not. Because that's your opinion, and you can do that, even based off of something I said.

Hey this is a Forum, let's just talk, not get offended. We all know that any post in here is not meant to get anyone angry.

I hope your on the same page as me.

The Game
12-12-2001, 07:01 PM
Hmmm...................

Yes, I suppose I did get a little out of hand; but I stand by my comments. I agree I shouldn't have posted what I did; it clearly makes no difference in the long run, I just don't think your post was fair to the people you disagreed with. You dismissed their ideas as foolish but...

...After looking back at my comments about your thoughts on Tom Cruise/Nightwing, I'm willing to be big enough to admit that I did exactly what I claimed you were doing. I apologize for that, but not for what I said most recently.

By the way, I meant to say Nightwing was supposed to be in his twenties, just in case anyone was wondering.

FLIPMODE
12-12-2001, 08:28 PM
Well for it's worth I'll Apollogize too. I dont want to seem insensitive to anyones issues.

James
12-12-2001, 08:48 PM
Whether you like Babs as Batgirl/Oracle/waste of space I think that the her injury at the hands of the Joker in The Killing Joke was brilliant.

Was just behind The Dark Knight Returns in it's impact to comics at the time. I remember reading it and being totally shocked (and I must admit, amused - the whole thing was so nasty you had to admire the whole project!) by this far darker and real Joker. The result of which is up for debate, but the impact this graphic novel had on the readers and the Batman universe is undeniable!

Peace,

SJ

ZorBrak
12-12-2001, 09:06 PM
Well, I know if Batman Beyond went through I woulda gone crazy to get the part as Terry I can do his voice pretty well and I look sorta like him, but I act more and look more like bruce, but Im obviously not old enough to play him, I did consider taking acting as a career choice, and I guess I could still get a late start I am half way through highschool but I hate thsoe plays and stuff so heh I will stick with my animation :P

FLIPMODE
12-13-2001, 02:37 AM
That's true SSJ, I like that story arc, I overlooked the importance of that event. But It just further supports the way I'd rather see Batman, Batgirl-less. I appreciate her as oracle much better.

The Game
12-13-2001, 02:58 PM
This is kinda off topic, but what movie would you guys like to see as Batman 5? Year One? Another sequel? Something original you want to see...?

James Harvey
12-13-2001, 05:36 PM
The most recent issue of Premiere tackles this subject, and they do a pretty keen job.

And personally, I'd want to see a Batman: Year One.

Reboot the franchise....don't pick up where Schumacher left off...

demon's head
12-13-2001, 06:43 PM
wow...i don't check for a day and a war broke out...did i start that...sorry! but anyway i would really like to see a year one movie...it has the basic elements of the batman mythos...just plain old bats...and from there you can spring board into the long halloween and dark victory (i'd rehash the two into one) but that's what i would like to see...

FLIPMODE
12-13-2001, 08:50 PM
With Me, I think a New one could be done and not necessarily be Year one, AND also it could still Not be associated to Anything Schumacher or Burton did. Just a New Batman Movie...Just Done Better. And I have the script right here. But, that'll never make it to the screens anyitme soon.

But in the Same vein, I can see a Year one, If they use the style I had in mind, and better acting. And with me, what Im looking forward to is, yes keep Bataman a cool element, but, Im desperate to see a Realistic Batman movie. Batman 1 was dark, but still HIGHLY un-realistic as it could have been. So whatever they do, to satisfy me they'll have to:
1-Start over, no relation to any other Bat movie's continuity.
2-More Tension, more Dramatic, and serious, and realistic.
3-Basically an unknown actor as the Bat.

Justice League 2000
12-14-2001, 01:01 PM
wb should do batman year one in animated and that would be better. :)

baggins
12-14-2001, 01:30 PM
Batman, Pierce Brosnan/Nightwing,Nicholas Brendon/Robin,Haley Joel Osmet/Batgirl.Natalie Portman/Joker,James Nesbit (Cold Feet)

The Game
12-14-2001, 11:47 PM
I agree with alot of GrayGhosts choices from the first page...

Batman-Val Kilmer- I think Val Kilmer was the best Batman so far, and definitley the best Bruce Wayne. He has the physical presence of Batman, the look and the voice. He is a good Bruce Wayne (in that area you can't deny he's the best of the live action guys). I think he'd be great.

Batgirl-I'm gonna stick with my original pick. I think SMG is the perfect Batgirl. I think she's a very talented actress (remember, we've already established we're all entitled to out opinions), she looks like she fits the part, and she's definitley going to draw male fans. Why does everyone think she's such a bad actress? I think some of the stuff she's done on Buffy is rather note worthy... Plus she's still hot either way.

Robin (Older) Stick with Chris O'Donnel. He's not the best, but like Val, he could be good with a decent script and direction. He's proven he can do it, and looks good for the part.

Robin (Younger) Someone (I think Gray Ghost) mentioned not Frankie Muniz, but the OTHER guy on Malcom in the Middle. I SOO think he would be better. I think he looks older (to me Tim should be at least in his mid-teens, not a kid, which Frankie gives offf more), and he's got a cool street smart wise-cracking attitude that would be good. I wonder how they'd do a kid Robin... They wouln't put him in rubber I hope... That wouldn't be cool.

Nightwing- Again I might go with Chris O'Donnell. I just think he's good for the part and there aren't many who could do it well. Josh Hartnett would be good too, he's just cool looking. This is just my opinion but Tom Cruise and Keanu Reeves are just too old. They look okay, but both guys are better as Bruce than Nightwing... Again, my humble opinion.

Commisioner Gordon- Whoever said James Coburn is a genius. I couldn't think of a good replacement for that horrible guy that plays him in the first four movies, but that guy is the perfect match! He's old but he's not a geezer, and he's cool and tough. Perfect.

Scarecrow- I know someone already said this (I would give credit to the person if I remembered), but Kevin Spacey would be nice. He could toatally be a creepy psychological villain that more than gets under your skin... He's always playing strange roles, and looking back at the amazing make-up and costumes in the first four films, I can't imagine what amazing creation they could come up with for Scarecrow.

Joker- I agree we've seen enough of Joker, but if Jack Nicholson is not available, willing, or costs too much, I agree that Christian Bale would be awesome. In American Pycho he was magnificent at creating that dangerous/crazy image, and he can sure do a maniacal laugh... He'd be good. But then again, how could you replace Jack Nicholson...?

In general, unless they plan to completley reboot the series, I can't see any of the villains being replaced... Most of them were too famous, you know. They'd be overshadowed, possibly by a poor performance. What do you guys think about this and my selections?

Jimmy Kustes
12-15-2001, 10:28 AM
I want to see a Batman movie with the Mad Hatter and Scarecrow, it would just work, plain and simple.

As for the cast:

Bruce Wayne: Micheal Keaton
Terry McGineis: Lex Luther and Flash from Smallville and JL (What is his name?)
Mad Hatter: Martin Short
Scarecrow: anyone

Justice League 2000
12-15-2001, 03:59 PM
michael rosenbaum

FLIPMODE
12-15-2001, 04:47 PM
I always thought Jeff Goldblum would make a good Scarecrow.

Jimmy Kustes
12-15-2001, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Pete
michael rosenbaum

Thanks! I was about to write roseybottem

Really, I think he is better for Mr. Freeze than Terry. Too bad they picked Arnold Swortzinagar.

Barb Gordon
12-15-2001, 10:46 PM
Tom Cruise might have worked for Nightwing a few years back, but not now. You can only make a guy look so young you know, even though I love Cruise. And isn't Dick about 24 at the moment? Keanu Reeves could probably pull it off, but I would choose Josh Hartnett over him in a sec. Still....as much as others don't seem to like him, I really like Chris O'Donnell as Dick Grayson. Granted, there is probably another actor out there beter suited, but I still favor O'Donnell. He's not a bad actor, he just got screwed with everyone else with a bad director and script. I passed by Vertical Limit last night on tv and kept noting scenes where he reminded me of Dick...I do that, I'm weird, I know...anyhoo, he had a bit shaggier hair in the movie and it made a big difference, not to mention there's this one scene where it looks like he hasn't shaved in a few days....and it looks great! And it so reminded me of DG, especially with this certain smile he has. He 's great at showing affection, as well as determination ("I'm gonna try even if no one else is" kinda thing) and charisma.
It's never fair to dismiss an actor because they did poorly in a movie or two. You need to see that person in other roles before you make an opinion, otherwise it's not well-rounded. Then again, if you have seen him in a few of his other movies like I have, and you still dislike him...*shrugs* oh well!

Barb^-^

baggins
12-16-2001, 07:05 AM
Some of you guys are missing the point on who should play Batman.If the caracter is older you need someone who is still fit but has that world wery look about him.As for the Joker as I said before James Nesbitt, he wouldn't need any make up too.