Sailor Moon Sailor Stars (Must Air!)

[Sailor V]

Does anyone else besides me like the last season to air!

[Umino]

Just wait another few months for the Japanese DVDs. :p

[GWOtaku]

Nah. It had a good run and I don't know how it would really fit on TV at this point...plenty of editing issues, and is rather old now. I do think its a shame that we haven't seen a formal DVD release so die-hard fans can have a truly complete collection of the Sailor Moon anime.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

airing it would be nice but since its the all the end of a series CN or whatever other network would really need to air the first 4 sagas since they haven't been seen in a long time and that might be to much commitment :( just give us a uncut subbed dvd boxset release and I will be happy :)

[rubberchicken]

Hey, they aired Yu Yu Hakusho when it was ten years old. It's not like it's going to be that bad.

[Lord Dalek]

Not gonna happen.

[Ajax]

I saw Sailor Stars 6 years ago when it ran on Mexican TV uncut. And I'll tell you something guys, if you never see it you ain't missing much. If your not a true SM fan then this series is defiantly not worth the trouble to get or buy.
As it for airing on TV, I don't know, they would have to do a awful lot of edits.

[Bunai]

it would be nice to just see it finished. since pretty much the rest of the world has SMSS dubbed and complete. i think the US should finish too...by any means lol
you can tell its WAY different from the manga...which might be a turn off for people.
but Toei likes to be evil...that and Naoko herself has some say in the matter

[Serena S.]

Yeah, I want it to air in America but I'm still concern about the whole Sailor Stars transformation thing.:sweat: I just want to know how they would edit transformations?!:confused:

[PowerZord]

Ha! Keep dreaming. I saw Sailor Stars A couple of years ago Fansubbed Uncut and Believe me they can't air it unless they edit a couple of stuff I won't mention right now to keep the spoilers to a minimum.

But the ending was really dissapointing.

[Dante Bunny]

I must to see it to believe it, cause I heard it has too many adult contents on that series. My friend seen it and she said it's weird cause of the transformation.:sweat: :sweat:

[Matt-a-Tastic]

Is this the live-action series your talking about?

[Dark Fact]

I'll say this much: There will be no chance of seeing this series unedited on U.S. shores unless Naoko Takeuchi dies or has a change of heart and TOEI agrees to it. Besides, there is no way we'll ever see a (proper) re-release of the first series to Super S until the feud between TOEI and Naoko Takeuchi finally gets settled! :sad:

[Kuja's Light]

Is this the live-action series your talking about?
No, this topic is referring to the final season of the anime series of Sailor Moon. Dubbers and such found it wouldn't be appropriate to air given what it has.

Funny how Tenchi Muyo was able to air(with some edits), but the final season of Sailor Moon was a no go.

Yeah, the only good bet would be for them to come on DVD.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I saw Sailor Stars 6 years ago when it ran on Mexican TV uncut. And I'll tell you something guys, if you never see it you ain't missing much. If your not a true SM fan then this series is defiantly not worth the trouble to get or buy.
As it for airing on TV, I don't know, they would have to do a awful lot of edits.
Sailor Stars is a good season, I don't know what you see wrong with it exactly. It's definitely not perfect, or as original as season 1 or 3, but it has a tight storyline and a very nice feeling of tension and dread as it builds up to the finale. I do agree that the ending is a bit weak, though. But the buildup, oh the buildup...:)

However, I just want it to be released domestically in some form, likely uncut DVD.

[Umino]

unless Naoko Takeuchi dies or has a change of heart and TOEI agrees to it. Besides, there is no way we'll ever see a (proper) re-release of the first series to Super S until the feud between TOEI and Naoko Takeuchi finally gets settled! :sad:
Naoko Takeuchi has nothing to do with what Toei does with the anime.

[Master Moron]

I think an uncut DVD is out of the question because Toei doesn't want to hurt Sailor Moon's "kid friendly" image in the U.S. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. Big deal, there's a lot of nudity in the last episode, not like there hasn't been nudity anywhere else in the series.

[Matt-a-Tastic]

No, this topic is referring to the final season of the anime series of Sailor Moon. Dubbers and such found it wouldn't be appropriate to air given what it has.

Funny how Tenchi Muyo was able to air(with some edits), but the final season of Sailor Moon was a no go.

Yeah, the only good bet would be for them to come on DVD.ah thanks

[Ultra8]

I wouldn't mind seeing them air it, but at this point I'd be happy if I got it as an Un-cut DVD box set.

[bigddan11]

I don't care for Sailor Moon, but if Miguzi really wanted to aim solely at the girls audience, then it'd fit perfectly on the block with Totally Spies, Winx Club, and I'll say Atomic Betty, because then it'd be 2 hours of girltastic action.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

I think an uncut DVD is out of the question because Toei doesn't want to hurt Sailor Moon's "kid friendly" image in the U.S.

since the last time it was on tv all the kids that watched it have mostly grown up by now :sweat: and its a pretty old show to so how does it still have a image??

[Riza Hawkeye]

since the last time it was on tv all the kids that watched it have mostly grown up by now :sweat: and its a pretty old show to so how does it still have a image?? That may be but that's Toei's stupid stance on Stars. All I want is a legitimate release, I really don't want to resort to spending 40 plus dollars a disc for the R2s. Plus I would need to purchase an all region DVD player, but that's not too diffcult. All I would like is to see it brought over, even if it's only uncut and subbed, I can deal with that.

[Bunai]

well
1) toei doesn't want a misunderstanding of the season not being child aimed
2) TV showings bring in more money then DVD sales

if they would have just stayed constant and know that pretty much everyone that watched Sailor Moon is now tween or teen or whatever it would be here.

i mean geez...the swedish version makes the Starlights have sisters. or somewhere along those lines.

[Ajax]

Sailor Stars is a good season, I don't know what you see wrong with it exactly. It's definitely not perfect, or as original as season 1 or 3, but it has a tight storyline and a very nice feeling of tension and dread as it builds up to the finale. I do agree that the ending is a bit weak, though. But the buildup, oh the buildup...:)

However, I just want it to be released domestically in some form, likely uncut DVD. I never said their was anything wrong with the season, I'm a huge fan of Sailor Moon. What I meant was that if you never see it you really aren't missing much. Stars isn't the grandiose final season that ties up all the loose ends, or were the other characters finally find love interests. Even though it concludes with a final kiss, Stars ending is like every other season (well except for SS, as the final conclusion ends in the beginnig of Stars). Essentially SM could of ended in season 1 or could of tired to do it, should of done it actually, in season 3. I'm not saying that if you watch it you won't enjoy it (I enjoyed it.) All I'm saying is that if it never airs on tv (which I doubt it ever will) it's not worth the money or trouble to get unless your a true die hard fan.

[flowersfall]

i mean it would take alot of edits wut i heard and how there transformations and how neptune and uranus i heard were orginally lezs nd how the scouts were boys i never saw it but still 2 much editing wouldnt really make it would b nice tho but they would have to air all the other seasons first to explain it i mean it would get more kids b4 there time to c it and they wouldnt understand so run the whole series b4 it and 2 much work is prb. y and cn isnt airing it ne wayz in japan the live action seires is going on i dislik it but still never saw it heard wasnt that great i dont think cn wants it bak either

[flowersfall]

i mean it would take alot of edits wut i heard and how there transformations and how neptune and uranus i heard were orginally lezs nd how the scouts were boys i never saw it but still 2 much editing wouldnt really make it would b nice tho but they would have to air all the other seasons first to explain it i mean it would get more kids b4 there time to c it and they wouldnt understand so run the whole series b4 it and 2 much work is prb. y and cn isnt airing it ne wayz in japan the live action seires is going on i dislik it but still never saw it heard wasnt that great i dont think cn wants it bak either by the way im a fan 2

[Conan-san]

Zomg, 2x post.

Anyway, I'll be honest, if they just got the Nelphia's return arc imported to DVD I would be happy.

The Galixia arc was a bit of a farce compaired to the very violent manga orgional (I know, it wasn't guts and blood but blowing away people like that is still violent) and I argue that it might make a better ending just to leave it at around ep 170 anyway.

And besides that, Manga Galixia was a badass byotch compared to her soft touch anime releation.

[Bunai]

i mean it would take alot of edits wut i heard and how there transformations and how neptune and uranus i heard were orginally lezs nd how the scouts were boys i never saw it but still 2 much editing wouldnt really make it would b nice tho but they would have to air all the other seasons first to explain it i mean it would get more kids b4 there time to c it and they wouldnt understand so run the whole series b4 it and 2 much work is prb. y and cn isnt airing it ne wayz in japan the live action seires is going on i dislik it but still never saw it heard wasnt that great i dont think cn wants it bak either
sorry but chat speak looks kind of messy on a forum.

not even in the manga or the anime does it state that Haru and Mich are lovers. its more of fan created fantasy.

[GWOtaku]

not even in the manga or the anime does it state that Haru and Mich are lovers. its more of fan created fantasy.
Well in the anime there was that scene in S with that two-parter where the crystal treasures were revealed to be in the Outer Senshi all along....y'know, the hands thing.

[Riza Hawkeye]

not even in the manga or the anime does it state that Haru and Mich are lovers. its more of fan created fantasy. There is the fact that Takeuchi, herself, said they were. Besides, it didn't need to be explicitly said, there's enough in their lines to tell you they're lovers anyway.

From Stars:

Michiru - "You've been eating too many sweets lately..."
Haruka - "You know I don't listen to that kind of talk outside of bed."

Any other couples, outside of Usagi and Mamoru, are fan-made couples.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I think the manga is far less interesting than the anime, but I know I'm alone here.

[Riza Hawkeye]

I think the manga is far less interesting than the anime, but I know I'm alone here. I like how some things were done in the anime better then the manga and visa versa. the deaths of the Sailor Senshi, especially the outers is far better in the anime. This is the main reason why I tend to like the anime version of Stars over the manga. I don't like that the anime turned the Starlights into guys, well to be exact, girls that turn into guys that turn back into girls (when they transform).the origin of ChibiChibi from the manga, was better then the anime
I prefer that Galaxia's sins not being redeemed like in the anime.
It would have been nicer if the fates of the Starlghts and Princess Kakyuu were shown in the manga, but were shown in the anime
At least Chaos was given a better explaination, in the manga

I'm sure there are more differences that I like in one version better then the other, but I can't think of them, plus it's been a little while since I've read the manga.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

not even in the manga or the anime does it state that Haru and Mich are lovers. its more of fan created fantasy.
Nope.

Watch the anime and read the manga again. Remember in the anime where they were talking about their first kiss and how Michelle made mention of Brad and then the scene was cut?

Harkua and Michiru hold each other close in the manga a few times. They live together. They don't kiss but Naoko didn't need to show them kissing in order to show that they're lovers.

As for Sailor Stars not being dubbed in English. One cannot say that it'll never happen. You can say that there's a 99.9% chance it won't happen but there's always that .1% chance that it will.

There was a station here in Quebec that showed Sailor Moon in French and if they still aired France's dub, I would have seen every episode.

[Umino]

Anyway, I'll be honest, if they just got the Nelphia's return arc imported to DVD I would be happy.
Why would they do that? It's only what, 4 episodes? And it sets up the second arc of Sailor Stars. That's like Doing the Kaorinite part of SMS and leaving it there.

[CyberCartoon]

I want it to return too and Sailor V I want it to air the final season too.

[Master Moron]

I think the manga is far less interesting than the anime, but I know I'm alone here.

I actually agree completely. In the manga most of the villains are devoid of personality. I mean, what's the difference between Jadeite, Nephrite, Zoicite, and Kunzite in the manga? They're all carbon copies of each other. In the anime they all have unique personalities.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

I find that Naoko rushed with the enemies.

The anime gave them more life. :) I love Naoko dearly, though. :anime:

[Umino]

The anime gave them more life. :) I love Naoko dearly, though. :anime:
I think she even said after watching the anime, she regrets making the villains so plain.

Overall I like the manga better, the anime was about 20% story, and 80% filler. Sailor Moon really did a bad job with the Monster-of-The-Week plot. I think it was because the monsters were too goofy, and uninteresting. The monsters in Card Captor Sakura, Cutie Honey, Devilman, and Cyborg 009 were alot more interesting..

[MahouShoujo13]

I wish for it to come....but it can't. :sad:

Well, they'd have to cut a lot of stuff out, some vital to the season itself. AND, we don't have the rights anymore.

I'll just beg my mom to buy the DVD...and hope it comes with subtitles.

[Maryna]

It's true, they would have to cut a lot of things out. They would need to clothe Usagi or something. ^^; It would take a lot of work. Maybe it's just too late.

I'd love it if they had an unedited DVD with subtitles. I'd preffer subtitles rather than a dub because than you can hear the original voices.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

AND, we don't have the rights anymore.
Only thing the US did was get the rights to air the dub in the US and to package it. We [Canada] got the rights to dub Sailor Moon.

[Pathfinder1011]

If we all remember that TOEI animation cut off ALL rights to the series last May. There is NO chance of the series ever coming back. Thankfully!!!;)

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

They may change their minds.

An example: look at the Resident Evil video game series. Shinji Mikami was going to stop the series after the first one. Biohazard/Resident Evil was supposed to be a one shot deal. 9 years later, the series is still going strong.

[Bunai]

guess i read a different interview. the VA for Haru asked about what she had to do and such.
its like the anime and the manga are completely seperated on some parts.

i'm not fond of the Starlights going from boy to girl...any idea why that happened? it didn't expand on their personalities. it looked like something to add for the heck of it. unless the director had a problem with girls dressing as guys for idols...that can't be it. did it make more sense for Seiya to like Usagi? was it to grab more male viewers :sweat: i can't figure it out. was it Naoko's idea? was there too many lesbian themes already?
it seems if they were left female it would be more interesting -like situation wise.

[Riza Hawkeye]

guess i read a different interview. the VA for Haru asked about what she had to do and such.
its like the anime and the manga are completely seperated on some parts.
They are very different at some parts, but that's a topic for another time.


i'm not fond of the Starlights going from boy to girl...any idea why that happened? it didn't expand on their personalities. it looked like something to add for the heck of it. unless the director had a problem with girls dressing as guys for idols...that can't be it. did it make more sense for Seiya to like Usagi? was it to grab more male viewers :sweat: i can't figure it out. was it Naoko's idea? was there too many lesbian themes already?
it seems if they were left female it would be more interesting -like situation wise. The idea to change the Starlights was sole creation of the anime's producers. Naoko was not pleased with the change and she's said as much. Naoko stated that only females can be Sailor Senshi, and by the anime making the Starlights men, they broke one of her "rules" she set of the SM universe. It's my personal believe that it was because of Seiya's feelings for Usagi, but I don't know if that's the reason or not. Anime did eliminate the Haruka/Usagi kiss from the manga.

And just to make matters more confusing, based on a conversation between Seiya and her Princess; they are in fact women that turned into men on Earth but turn back into women when they transform.

The conversation:

Princess Kakyuu: "Why do the three of you use that disguise here?"
*Seiya blushes*
Seiya: "It was out of convenience, to make it easier to find you."

[Conan-san]

They are very different at some parts, but that's a topic for another time.

The idea to change the Starlights was sole creation of the anime's producers. Naoko was not pleased with the change and she's said as much. Naoko stated that only females can be Sailor Senshi, and by the anime making the Starlights men, they broke one of her "rules" she set of the SM universe. It's my personal believe that it was because of Seiya's feelings for Usagi, but I don't know if that's the reason or not. Anime did eliminate the Haruka/Usagi kiss from the manga.

And just to make matters more confusing, based on a conversation between Seiya and her Princess; they are in fact women that turned into men on Earth but turn back into women when they transform.

The conversation:

Princess Kakyuu: "Why do the three of you use that disguise here?"
*Seiya blushes*
Seiya: "It was out of convenience, to make it easier to find you." In short, Toei are being arses about a decision they made. (Ie: they won't let you see somthing because of a mistake THEY made)

NOW HOW DUMB IS THAT?!

Craig would say:
MVM DUMB! (NOW THAT IS DUMB!)

[NeoSerenity]

I would like to see it released on an uncut DVD box set with English sub titles, or something like that. Like they did with the first two seasons. I am a die hard Sailor Moon fan, so I really want to see it, but I fear I never will...:sad:

[Riza Hawkeye]

In short, Toei are being arses about a decision they made. (Ie: they won't let you see somthing because of a mistake THEY made)

NOW HOW DUMB IS THAT?!

Craig would say:
MVM DUMB! (NOW THAT IS DUMB!) Essentially yes.

I would like to see it released on an uncut DVD box set with English sub titles, or something like that. Like they did with the first two seasons. I am a die hard Sailor Moon fan, so I really want to see it, but I fear I never wil...:sad:Unless something changes there a only ways you can see Stars; download it (illegal), buy bootlegs (illegal), buy the R2* DVDs when they come out this fall in Japan (legal, but an expensive investment). I ended up getting the bootlegs.

*R2 DVDs are not playable on DVD players you can go and purchase at any retailer, you need a Region Free DVD player to play them. Also, they do not contain English subtitles. If you leave in Europe your Region is already Region 2.

[Conan-san]

Essentially yes.
And everyone wonders why One Piece was given to 4-kids ^_^;

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

At first glance, Haruka, Seiya, Yaten and Taiki DID look like guys to me. They'd make cute guys, too, though. :)

[Riza Hawkeye]

At first glance, Haruka, Seiya, Yaten and Taiki DID look like guys to me. They'd make cute guys, too, though. :)
That was Naoko's intention though, similar to Haruka when she was introduced in the manga, but she never meant for them to actually be guys.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

That was Naoko's intention though, similar to Haruka when she was introduced in the manga, but she never meant for them to actually be guys.
Yeah I know. :)

In the French translation of her Sailor Moon manga, Haruka is known as Frederic.

[Riza Hawkeye]

Yeah I know. :) Okay :anime:


In the French translation of her Sailor Moon manga, Haruka is known as Frederic. Oh God, poor Haruka :ack:

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

Kaorinite is Elvira

Believe it or not, but that spelling of Frederic for a female is common over in France. Case in point (of another name): as we know (CCS related), Sakura's Father is Fujitaka. In the French dub, his name is Dominique. His French dub name isn't spelled like Dominic.

[Sailor V]

I want it to return too and Sailor V I want it to air the final season too.
Thanks CyberCartoon!:anime:

[Conan-san]

Thanks CyberCartoon!:anime: I second the emotion, if only to finalise the Nelphlia story arc. I could care less about them doing Galixia.

[Bunai]

Yeah I know. :)

In the French translation of her Sailor Moon manga, Haruka is known as Frederic.
XD ookay
i think the DIC name Amara is nice. greek. its male and female. it means beloved and eternal beauty.
why was everyone so bragging about the French manga being more accurate? because its not flipped?

[Beefy]

...buy the R2* DVDs when they come out this fall in Japan (legal, but an expensive investment). I ended up getting the bootlegs.

*R2 DVDs are not playable on DVD players you can go and purchase at any retailer, you need a Region Free DVD player to play them. Also, they do not contain English subtitles. If you leave in Europe your Region is already Region 2. True, but even though Japan and Europe are R2, Europe uses PAL and Japan uses NTSC.

My Sailor Stars series is on VCD, craptacular MPEG-1. I got them many years ago before I was smart enough to recognize bootlegs. If [name removed] ever gets their Sailor Stars fandub DVD done, I'll be sure to get it.

[Riza Hawkeye]

True, but even though Japan and Europe are R2, Europe uses PAL and Japan uses NTSC. :sweat: Oh yeah, forgot about that.


My Sailor Stars series is on VCD, craptacular MPEG-1. I got them many years ago before I was smart enough to recognize bootlegs. If [name removed] ever gets their Sailor Stars fandub DVD done, I'll be sure to get it. Well, I knew full well my purchase was bootleg, but with the limited options at the time (two years ago) I went with that anyway. It's not the best quality, but it was best option. It's the only bootleg I've ever bought though, because I do prefer official realeases when available.



Completely off topic - my last post before I go to stand in line to see Episode III :).

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

About the Sailor Stars as guys in their human form: if whichever company gets the rights to dub the last season in English, they can find a lady who has more of a deep voice to go with the character she's given.

Personally, I find that Sarah LeFleur fit Sailor Uranus perfectly. She got both of Haruka's sides: boyish and girly.

[Conan-san]

About the Sailor Stars as guys in their human form: if whichever company gets the rights to dub the last season in English, they can find a lady who has more of a deep voice to go with the character she's Or, they could of done what Cloverway shold of done in the first place, make them to be (as it should of been to start with) Women in men's clothing (so to speak) and cut out the elluding to the whole "thier boys" thing (Notably, most of ChibiChibi's antics around them)

[Elven Moon]

Finishing off the series would be nice and clean but if it's taken this long I don't think it will ever happen. I'd rather daydream that the live action version would be licensed :sweat:

[Conan-san]

Finishing off the series would be nice and clean but if it's taken this long I don't think it will ever happen. I'd rather daydream that the live action version would be licensed :sweat: If 4-kids were to "Ultraman Tiga" it, I'd hit it.

[rrznn]

i see this series like back in 97 (didnt lived in america) and i liked it alot. the last parts i got to finish was after the 3rd season i think (where the evil scientist has a "evil" seed he's growing and his daughter was a goth that made friends with usagi i think) but i still got one question; from what year is this anime?

[Riza Hawkeye]

...but i still got one question; from what year is this anime?
Stars or the Sailor Moon series?

(month/day/year)
SM - in Japan from 3/7/92 to 2/27/93
R - in Japan from 3/6/93 to 3/12/94
S - in Japan from 3/13/94 to 2/25/95
SS - in Japan from 3/4/95 to 3/2/96
Stars - in Japan from 3/9/96 to 2/8/97

[rrznn]

yes, that's the answer i was looking for.

[rmarti3926]

Sailor Stars is a good season, I don't know what you see wrong with it exactly. It's definitely not perfect, or as original as season 1 or 3, but it has a tight storyline and a very nice feeling of tension and dread as it builds up to the finale. I do agree that the ending is a bit weak, though. But the buildup, oh the buildup...:)

However, I just want it to be released domestically in some form, likely uncut DVD.
I agree. All I want is to see Sailor Moon one more time. I am sick and tired of all these masculine shonen fighting anime like Dragonball Z/GT poisoning our TVs these days. I want to see Eternal Sailor Moon legally and speaking English. Salior Moon final form is the most beautiful SM incarnations I ever seen. Must be those angel wings.

Please Sailor Moon, we need you! Release Sailor Stars exclusively on domestic bilingual DVD soon!

[Bunai]

i see this series like back in 97 (didnt lived in america) and i liked it alot. the last parts i got to finish was after the 3rd season i think (where the evil scientist has a "evil" seed he's growing and his daughter was a goth that made friends with usagi i think) but i still got one question; from what year is this anime?
why do people refer to Hotaru as 'goth'?
shes not IMO

Hotaru made friends with ChibiUsa/Rini

[Bunai]

I agree. All I want is to see Sailor Moon one more time. I am sick and tired of all these masculine shonen fighting anime like Dragonball Z/GT poisoning our TVs these days. I want to see Eternal Sailor Moon legally and speaking English. Salior Moon final form is the most beautiful SM incarnations I ever seen. Must be those angel wings.

Please Sailor Moon, we need you! Release Sailor Stars exclusively on domestic bilingual DVD soon!
i think the anime wings on Eternal looks...a bit ridiculous. in the manga they are on her back which makes more sense, and they are not in the way

[PowerZord]

I remenber a line from SMStars.

Michuru: "Ouch your hurting me"
Haruka: (I don't remenber exactly what she said on this line but it had something to do with touching)

Michuru: "Not now when we're alone."

There's a lot of parts on the show that gives you hint that they are lez.. like when on the episode of the runner. on the Description of the episode that is mentioned she saids "Some people say they are.." then usagi saids "Stop saying those stuff"

Something like that. Could anyone explain me what happened between Toei and Naoko?

[Conan-san]

I remenber a line from SMStars.

Michuru: "Ouch your hurting me"
Haruka: (I don't remenber exactly what she said on this line but it had something to do with touching)

Michuru: "Not now when we're alone."

There's a lot of parts on the show that gives you hint that they are lez.. like when on the episode of the runner. on the Description of the episode that is mentioned she saids "Some people say they are.." then usagi saids "Stop saying those stuff"

Something like that. Could anyone explain me what happened between Toei and Naoko? Basicly, Naoko got ticked off at them for doing all the changes they did on stars (probably the whole Star-light thing mostly, I would to if my chracters were changed like that outwith my concent).

Naoko's very head strong at times, I blevave she even fell out with her manga publisher at one time (though the excuse given was that she misplaced her transcripts for the series).

However, follwing her marage to Yoshihiro Togashi, her style has began to change a bit, her male chracters look more akin to how Togashi draws his male chracters and I bleave Sailor Moon made a cameo in Hunter X Hunter but I can't be too sure on that.

[Conan-san]

Frightfuly sorry to double post but I would like to bring to the form's attantion

This (http://www.warriorsoflegend.com/) and this (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=3661)

See, if "Save our Sailors" did this from the get go, we wouldn't be *****slaped by Toei.

[pdracox23]

you can see stars dubbed from here on dvd:

[group removed]

P.S. even if rights were bought by u.s. company and it was dubbed, it never hit tv waves. They changed haruka and michiru into cousins, how would u explain the starlights changing from guys to girls to u.s. tv viewers? And why they change is cause there hiding on earth as guys to not be discovered, and they figured being singers would help there princess find them easier if they were worldwide recognized. but tv wise, I dont think parents want anybody seeing transexuals in a "cartoon" lol.

[MahouShoujo13]

Okay....after reading some stuff here, I'm going to drop my two cents:

On the Starlights transformation:
Well, according to them, they said it was "convenient". Since back then boy bands were popular among girls (and I guess the Three Lights were like a "boy band")...well, you'll get what I'm saying.

As for the Starlights, Taiki looks more like...a guy. :ack:

Haruka and Michiru pairing:
THIS IS NOT A FANPAIRING!
Well, you can see that by what other people said about it, but let me add something more:
In one SuperS special, Haruka was flirting with a nurse that was taking care of her during her stay in an inn (the nurse thought she was a guy). But when Michuru came back early, she stopped.
There are more instances which prove they're a canon couple. Heh...even by what they say show they're a couple.
And then...the hand thing.
Heh! Even when I watched the dub when I was small I KNEW that they were a couple!

Well, there are other couples. There were...Usagi and Mamouru...Princess Serenity and Prince Endymion...Ami and Ryo...Naru and Gurio...Rei and Yuuichiru...and Helios and Chibi-usa. Every pairing else is fan based...including that accursed UsagixSeiya pairing! Argh! :mad:

Sailor Saturn:
SAILOR SATURN IS NOT A GOTH!
There's an article on Bunny's Tour (good SM fansite) written by another fan. I hope you guys who think she's a goth read this: http://thetour.animehunters.com/sinusamoris/article_008.html


Urm...just my two cents.

[Master Moron]

you can see stars dubbed from here on dvd:

[group removed]

P.S. even if rights were bought by u.s. company and it was dubbed, it never hit tv waves. They changed haruka and michiru into cousins, how would u explain the starlights changing from guys to girls to u.s. tv viewers? And why they change is cause there hiding on earth as guys to not be discovered, and they figured being singers would help there princess find them easier if they were worldwide recognized. but tv wise, I dont think parents want anybody seeing transexuals in a "cartoon" lol.

[group removed] sucks. They use the DiC names and music. And of course the voices are just as awful as you'd expect from a fandub. Besides, fandubs are just as illegal as fansubs aren't they?

[pdracox23]

First off have u seen [group removed] on vhs? the fandub va's are really good.... Alot of them are just as good as any prof. va, the female [group removed] VA's have good voices even though acouple people were lost, but that happens with prof. va's too. I knew some of them actually. Yes he uses the dic names and stuff cause its easier for people to pronounce and such. I've watched clips of stars fandub, and if you can do better, please i'd like to see you spend hundreds of dollars on cpu equip and yrs on a project when your not working your job to bring stars in english dialogue to sailor moon fans, and see you volunteer for free, your hard hrs to give your voice to characters so sailor moon fans have stars character with english dialogue.

[Riza Hawkeye]

Well, there are other couples. There were...Usagi and Mamouru...Princess Serenity and Prince Endymion...Ami and Ryo...Naru and Gurio...Rei and Yuuichiru...and Helios and Chibi-usa. Every pairing else is fan based...including that accursed UsagixSeiya pairing! Argh! :mad: The Ami/Ryo and Rei/Yuuichirou pairings are fan based as well. While there is some base for them, they are not canon. Even if you can point out, 'this scene' or 'that scene' for believing it; anyone who's a fan of other non-canon pairings can do the same for the pairing they're a fan of, ie Usagi/Seiya.

[Umino]

Negavision sucks. They use the DiC names and music. And of course the voices are just as awful as you'd expect from a fandub. Besides, fandubs are just as illegal as fansubs aren't they?
I second that. They're just as bad as DIC or CWI.

[Master Moron]

First off have u seen negavision on vhs? the fandub va's are really good.... Alot of them are just as good as any prof. va, the female negavision VA's have good voices even though acouple people were lost, but that happens with prof. va's too. I knew some of them actually. Yes he uses the dic names and stuff cause its easier for people to pronounce and such. I've watched clips of stars fandub, and if you can do better, please i'd like to see you spend hundreds of dollars on cpu equip and yrs on a project when your not working your job to bring stars in english dialogue to sailor moon fans, and see you volunteer for free, your hard hrs to give your voice to characters so sailor moon fans have stars character with english dialogue.

Where to start. First of all, yes, I've seen the clips on that site so I know what the voices sound like. The voice they chose for Sailor Moon makes Linda Ballentyne sound like an angel. And saying they are just as good as professional vas is an insult to professional vas.

And no, Usagi and Makoto are not hard to pronounce, he uses the DiC names because he likes the DiC version. And you didn't comment on him changing the music. If he's going to change the music then that makes him almost as bad as DiC. There's no reason to Americanize anime, especially in a fan production. If I wanted to watch a show with American names and American music I'd watch an American cartoon.

And why the hell would I spend hundreds of dollars stealing Toei and Naoko's work? You do know that that's what fandubs are right? Stealing. If Toei ever does decide to release Sailor Stars in the U.S. then they will lose money due to the amount of people who have fansubs and fandubs.

By the way, I notice that that site still has information about the "Lost episodes" that DiC cut out of the first season. Those episodes were released onto DVD already. I see no reason why a fandub for those episodes needs to be made.

And he's not bringing Stars to Sailor Moon fans, he's bringing his vision of what he thinks Stars should be to his fans.

[pdracox23]

the lost eps's fandub came out on vhs like 7 yrs ago before it was out on dvd. You know some people don't like to read subtitles and want to hear stuff in english. A person who loves sailor moon has put yrs into this and hard time, not making any money on it (cause that would be illegal), doing it purely for sailor moon fans, and it pisses me off how you attack [group removed] like that. If I was able to do something like [group removed] is doing, i'd do it to, to support the fans of an anime that I love. Not only that but bashing the voice actors who are young adults not getting paid to do it, who hopefully by doing this stuff will get good practice to do it in the future as a job, also angers me. People have to start from somewhere, and there doing it for free to keep it legal, they cant hire va's.

and the venus and mars va's sound exactly like there prof. dub counterparts which is amazing (i think one left though), I myself have fandubbed clips and found amazing women who can sound exactly like venus and mars.

Instead of criticizing something like that, until I see you show that type of support for an anime you love, then i dont want to hear it. Until I hear your voice on a character, i dont want to hear you belittle a person. If you want somebody to sound like the jap. va's, its not gonna happen. People can make characters there own with any voice they want.

I think the online fandub and voice acting world is great, it helped me practice my voice for yrs and i now DJ with a good voice because of it, so I won't let it be belittled by you.

[Master Moron]

the lost eps's fandub came out on vhs like 7 yrs ago before it was out on dvd. You know some people don't like to read subtitles and want to hear stuff in english. A person who loves sailor moon has put yrs into this and hard time, not making any money on it (cause that would be illegal), doing it purely for sailor moon fans, and it pisses me off how you attack Negavision like that. If I was able to do something like [group removed] is doing, i'd do it to, to support the fans of an anime that I love. Not only that but bashing the voice actors who are young adults not getting paid to do it, who hopefully by doing this stuff will get good practice to do it in the future as a job, also angers me. People have to start from somewhere, and there doing it for free to keep it legal, they cant hire va's.

[group removed] doesn't love the Sailor Moon anime, nor the fans of it. If they did, they wouldn't change the music, screw around with the dialogue, and edit it. And yes, the [group removed] tapes are edited, they admit to doing time cuts to get the screwed up dialogue to match with the footage. And if Negavision voice artists actually got preofessional jobs in the anime industry, I think it would be shameful. Hell, I'd even go so far as to say the [group removed] voice artists should be blacklisted from working on professional anime dubs.


Instead of criticizing something like that, until I see you show that type of support for an anime you love, then i dont want to hear it. Until I hear your voice on a character, i dont want to hear you belittle a person. If you want somebody to sound like the jap. va's, its not gonna happen. People can make characters there own with any voice they want.


Fandubs AREN'T supporting the anime. Toei doesn't get a penny. Naoko Takeuchi doesn't get a penny. If anything they LOSE money when people buy fandubs instead of licensed products. You want to know how you can support the anime? Go and buy a licensed DVD or a piece of licensed merchandise. Hell, I already probably have supported Sailor Moon more than [group removed] considering all the Sailor Moon merchandise I used to buy when I was younger.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

you can see stars dubbed from here on dvd:

[site removed - fandub/bootleg]

P.S. even if rights were bought by u.s. company and it was dubbed, it never hit tv waves. They changed haruka and michiru into cousins, how would u explain the starlights changing from guys to girls to u.s. tv viewers? And why they change is cause there hiding on earth as guys to not be discovered, and they figured being singers would help there princess find them easier if they were worldwide recognized. but tv wise, I dont think parents want anybody seeing transexuals in a "cartoon" lol.
DiC and Cloverway are Canadian so it was us that changed Michiru and Haruka into cousins.

I get to see Sailor Moon and that's what I'm happy about.

[Karl Olson]

OK Everyone, problem hopefully solved.

Meanwhile, let not talk about the fandub group, or atleast not by name and site. I'm going to be deleting the prior mentions.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

I didn't double post!! Even though it looks like it but I didn't!! XD

[Karl Olson]

I didn't double post!! Even though it looks like it but I didn't!! XD

solved that too :)