low expations for lord of the rings

[joker]

sorry for the misspelled word in the title

i havnt read the book i dont plan to see the movie because some of my friends who are real big fans of the book say the movie is going to suck, i dont rember exact names but my friend said they replaced some important characters with some pretty insignificant ones. from the mouth of my friend: "the guy whos directing this movie is and idiot, he just got out of prison and he doesnt know what hes doing, hes going to have a bunch of fat 30 year olds in mid-evil armor banging on his door, and i'll be leading them." anyway, i probably wont see the movie with all the negative things my friends are saying about it.

[Failure]

Umm, no offense, but I dont think your friends dont know what they're talking about.

Every review I've read, and this is including fan reviews who are huge fans of the books as well, have been downright orgasmic about the movie. Yes, there were some changes, some parts and minor characters being left out, but that's necessary considering the huge breadth of the books. As far as I know, nothing major has been changed though.

I havent heard anything about Jackson ever being in prison either. So maybe he has, maybe he hasnt. But what the heck does that have to do with anything? Sounds like sour grapes or something, I cant figure it out.

[Bird Boy]

get some new friends.. lol

I know for a fact, this movie is going to be straight out of the pages..I'd go see if it if I were you (Hey, I've read the first book)..

I dunno anything about him getting out of prison..but, does it matter? He's a good director with a sweet movie coming out..don't let your friends sway you from the correct path! :D

-BB

[killercroc]

It sure looks like it's gonna be great. I've heard something about Arwen's role being changed, but I don't know if that turned out to be true or not. I haven't heard anything about characters being replaced.

I can't wait to see what the Balrog looks like.

Joker- You should read the books, then go see the movie. I know the books won't disapoint.

[NewMaxFranklin]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by joker
sorry for the misspelled word in the title

Looked ok to me. :rolleyes:

I generally don't listen to what other people tell me about movie. I do listen to what people say on the internet though. But, I second guess what people I know tell me. Funny, that.

Just got out of prison, huh? So, can we expect an romantic scene involving the picking up of soap? :D

I have low expectations for the all big movies that come out. Spiderman, LOTR, AttackOTC, The Matrix and X-Men sequels (if they EVER happen.) I don't expect any of them to be very good. Big movies mean big budgets and big hype. Both of which cost studios big money. So, these movies are always safe.

Adapted material like "LA Confidential turns out great, because the filmakers have more passion for the material. They had to fight to get it made. The people making the big adapted features are hired and lead like sheep through the paces of production. The money-men have faith in the material, because it's proven. People bought the books, so they like the material, right? But these producers don't know story, art, film, etc. They have no faith in the filmakers. They're glorified bean counter supervisors. -End Rant-

[Batman's bride]

I have never read the book, but I just brought it and plan to start reading it after my semester is over (english major--so many books....) But from what I have been reading and how my friends that have read the books are drooling over its release I can't wait. I have seen some of the visual effects on quick little movies on the TV Guide channel and I think that even thought it's going to be big budgeted I think its going to be really good. I mean for all intents and purposes Dungeon and Dragons was not that bad, nor was Harry Potter. I mean Harry Potter was fantastic. But everybody was oh no it?s going to be bad. The best thing I ever did was just take it one day at a time and not worry about what everybody else thinks, because I would have never gone to see Star Wars I, because I had a friend that was like "its going to be bad, what's George Lucas thinking."

Small point! ;)

[Calhoun07]

Even if the LOTR movie keeps certain things out of the theatrical release, chances are we will see those put back into the movie for the directors cuts that are in the lavish DVD box set after all three films are released.

If you feel like this won't be a faithful enough adaption of LOTR, that's fine. Either make your own or go back and watch the cartoon movie. I don't think we are ever going to see a better LOTR adaption in our life times.

[Elven Moon]

Well, personally, it doesn't really matter to me whether or not it's completely faithful to the books. While I've read all of them (and in one weekend!), I don't really consider myself to be a big fan. I'm hoping the movie will help me understand them a bit better, actually. I look forward to seeing it!

[RockItShipper]

Just got out of prison, huh? So, can we expect an romantic scene involving the picking up of soap? :D

So the rumors about Frodo and Samwise are true? Sweeeeet. :p

[Naraht]

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[Clayface]

I read the books and didn't care for them at all. So, I'm not really even planning on seeing the movie, unless I get dragged to it by a friend.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by joker
anyway, i probably wont see the movie with all the negative things my friends are saying about it.

Um, if they haven't seen it, why do you trust their opinion of it?

[Colin]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus


Um, if they haven't seen it, why do you trust their opinion of it?

Gotta agree with you on that one... So far, with the exception of the reviewers and those involved with the film... NO ONE has seen it... how can you go by words of someone who hasn't seen it?

As for me... I like to form my own opinions instead of assimilating the opinions of my friends... you can get a better perspective on life that way...

For movies, I look at one or two reviews... (usually whatever's in Entertainment Weekly) ...but if I wanna see a movie before I even read the reviews, I'm still going to want to see it....

...and for anyone who's interested... here's a copy of the review of LotR that appeared in this weeks EW:


Movie Review by Lisa Schwarzbaum

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The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring




JOLLY GOOD 'FELLOWSHIP' Short subjects Sean Astin, Dominic Monaghan, Wood, and Billy Boyd




So that's what the fuss is all about. I mean the passion, the devotion, the obsession of people for whom the fate of fictional characters who live in Middle-earth -- players named Frodo and Gandalf, Aragorn and Elrond, Gollum and Sauron -- means more, at times, than the fate of the real people who live next door. It's not usually necessary, or shouldn't be, to announce one's lack of familiarity with literary source material in order to assess a movie's qualities as a movie. But, remembering the ferocity of high school classmates -- boys, mostly -- who steeped themselves in Elvish arcana while the girls wallowed in Salinger and Sylvia Plath, I open by saying that I have never read the fantasy series by the tweedy British scholar J.R.R. Tolkien, the modern lit classic known as ''The Lord of the Rings'' trilogy.

And I follow quickly by saying that The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring is thrilling -- a great picture, a triumphant picture, a joyfully conceived work of cinema that (based on this first installment, with two more ready for release in the next two years) would appear to embrace Tolkien's classic with love and delight, and rewards both adepts and novices with the highest compliment of all: an intelligence and artistry as a movie independent of blind fidelity to the page. The Middle-earth of this ''Fellowship'' -- as directed by Peter Jackson with all the graceful inventiveness hoped for from the maker of ''Heavenly Creatures'' -- is vibrantly, intricately alive on its own terms. This is what magic the movies can conjure with an inspired fellowship in charge, and unlimited pots of gold.

One of the ''Fellowship'''s most exemplary attributes is the ease and good instinct with which Jackson regularly shifts perspectives, both structurally and visually, from the epic to the intimate and back again: Thousand-year-old, thousand-creature battles (depicted with of-the-moment computerized assistance) really do look and feel as awesome as such mythological battles ought to but rarely do -- and then the focus shifts to the tenderness expressed in the close-up half smile of a gentle wizard. Having laid out the saga's prehistory in a thunderous yet (blessedly) comprehensible prologue -- the Great Rings of Power created by the Dark Lord Sauron, the Elven Kings, the Dwarf Lords, the Mortal Men, the one master ring capable of shifting the balance of power in the world, the whole fantastical yada yada -- Jackson carries us to the Shire, home of the hobbit Bilbo Baggins (Ian Holm), his young cousin, Frodo (Elijah Wood), and all their pint-size, hairy-footed, pointy-eared fellow hobbits, living in an idyllic village of excellently cozy wee homes such as Real Simple magazine would swoon to photograph.

As Frodo greets the return of Gandalf the Grey (Ian McKellen), the hobbits' wizardly protector who has returned for Bilbo's 111th birthday party, the boy and the graybeard share a wagon ride together into a village detailed enough to delight Munchkins, Breughel, and the kitsch painter Thomas Kinkade alike. Frodo is the hero-as-average-fellow in Tolkien's tale, the very opposite of a strapping action figure, to whom will fall the saga's great heroic assignment -- and Wood imbues the role with such a serious, kindly, unmannered goodness that he holds his ground easily even against such attention-getting costars as McKellen, Cate Blanchett as the impossibly dreamy Lady Galadriel (queen of all elves), and Viggo Mortensen (impossibly dreamy himself) as the broody and mysterious Aragorn.

The cast take to their roles with becoming modesty, certainly, but Jackson also makes it easy for them: His ''Fellowship'' flows, never lingering for the sake of admiring its own beauty. There's no time, anyway. Despite the fact that this first episode runs some two and a half hours -- and despite the fact that (scholars tell me) some characters from the book have been excised in the mellifluous screenplay by Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens, and Jackson -- there's a massive amount of story to cover. Every detail of which engrossed me. I may have never turned a page of Tolkien, but I know enchantment when I see it. A

[Lodoss War Fan]

I hardy ever take critics or my friends point of view on movies.
Just like a friend of mine love the D&D movie and I thought it was
unspeakably awful.
Everybody have different taste and I always judge a film on my own. :D

[joker]

well the kept bashing it so much...any way, im going to read the book before i read the movie because they said a lot of things about the changes i cant really rember but, ill read the book then see the movie.

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Lodoss War Fan
I hardy ever take critics or my friends point of view on movies.
Just like a friend of mine love the D&D movie and I thought it was
unspeakably awful.
Everybody have different taste and I always judge a film on my own. :D

I have yet to run into one person who thought D&D was good. You should consider having that person bronzed!

[RockItShipper]

(Also by way of side note, the controversial theory that Sam is gay and is in love with Frodo gets considerable play here -- all that's lacking is a liplock and it's a done deal.) Here (http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1007576461)

[Jowy Blight]

I have yet to run into one person who thought D&D was good. You should consider having that person bronzed!

I, too, have never heard of anybody who liked that movie. As for LotR, I make a point never to get hyped about movies as I did for Star Wars: Episode 1 and that almost killed me.

I'm still looking forward to the movie though.

[Lodoss War Fan]

Originally posted by calhoun07


I have yet to run into one person who thought D&D was good. You should consider having that person bronzed!

Yup! my friend has absolutely bad taste in movies! :(
he even thinks the batman and robin movie was pretty good.lol

[Jowy Blight]

he even thinks the batman and robin movie was pretty good.

Another first, for me. :D

[Calhoun07]

I knew somebody who liked Batman and Robin, too. Said the movie was "excellent." Well, he also likes movies starring Carrot Top...

[Failure]

Ewww Carrot Top. He's just evidence that some govt experiment invovolving human DNA and animal DNA went horribly, horribly wrong. He's soooo unfunny.