Internet Warning:

[sun]

I do not know what others know. Lots of teens here, and new people to the net, some not so new, not totally informed like me. But after some research, I have found the truth and, I suggest an internet warning at the top of every forum, permanently closed, in large print...Something to the effect: What you say here, will not stay here, it will be seen everywhere all over the world...Yea, it isn't nice, but it was pointed out to me in a discussion in the Cafe, about how open everything public is, and boy, this is public..and archived. Open to all, that is all- good, bad, ugly, nuetral, and evil. enough:sweat:

[Stewie]

People should be aware of that, (though I don't know how they aren't already).
I can't imagine that something so drastic as putting a disclaimer on every forum is needed. The fact that people can read what you post here is kind of a given. This thread should suffice.

[EinBebop]

I don't think it's necessary, but another idea is a popup warning that appears every time until you make a post until you disable it, like Interent Explorer does when you first start using it.

[Lucky Bob]

This should really go without being said.

I mean, how did you find the forums in the first place? Most likely through a series of links from some outside source, or on the recommendation of someone who followed that same route. The forum body isn't a self-perputuating* group of four or five members who have been here since the dawn of the "internets". Rather, it is open and publicly accessible for a reason: so that people can find it and join in the fun.

Not to mention the fact that many people can actually find help and guidance through search results that point to forum posts. I know I would have never found these forums had I not been looking for help concerning the ending to a BTAS episode that I had never seen.

Look, sorry if you feel that your privacy is being compromised. But using simple logic, one should determine that, if he can see what thousands of other members have written on these boards, others can see what he has written on these boards. You don't have to be a web veteran to determine that?

So, what to do about this dillema? Well, as I've said before, you could just stop posting and never do anything else online. But such a suggestion chills me to the bone, being a hopeless geek.

Or, you could take special care every time you post, keeping in mind that what you say could potentially be read by thousands. If you keep yourself in line, you really have nothing to worry about. Don't post something you wouldn't want others to read. Pure and simple.

*If that's not a word, it really should be.

[sun]

People should be aware of that, (though I don't know how they aren't already).
I can't imagine that something so drastic as putting a disclaimer on every forum is needed. The fact that people can read what you post here is kind of a given. This thread should suffice.Yes, people "should" be aware of that. Many are not. No one knows what percentage of people know. Some have a vague awareness, maybe, but the full extent that the internet, if used improperly, could be used against some innocent person, I do not think so at all..Some kind of warning is fair, but not all are as intelligent, and internet wise, as you or Lucky Bob. Some do not grasp the rar reaching ramifications of posting personal info, say on a blog, or diary, or discussing something very serious about themselves in front of 1 Billion people. Bob is correct in saying nothing should ever be posted that might be used wrongly. Details are not necessary, this thread is not enough. but I suspect that this kind of missuse of perosnal info has already been done. (I do not think at the Zone, but elsewhere)


By posting some kind of warning, we would only be informing our members, upfront, the truth. Now most of us, use phony names, but if we own computers, and do not keep the cookies out, AND use the best protection, they can possibly trace posts back to your own computer, and to you. Especially in a world of increased security, some sort of warning, even if a mild one, is fair, proper, and honest. I think this would be especially helpful to newbies, and people unaware of what has been said here...
I would like to add one thing, these concerns for me, developed only when I finally bought my own computer. Installed a hook up and started using my home computer...Before, I was at the library, where although a record was kept at the computers I was using, I was told the record was destroyed a couple of days later..maybe they didn't. Who knows? As someone said, if they (whoever) wants to find something about you, they can..I am just saying that we should just issue some kind of warning, then let the buyer beware. Thanks for reading this...S

[Tak Mazé]

They need only be told this once if at all. I'm not sure if it is, but it could be in the TOC or rules. But I can't remember at all.
Anyway, I'd say a vast majority of people are already aware their posts are going to be seen.

[Tienshin]

Actually, this is covered in the Toon Zone Terms of Service which advises members of how information they decide to share on the forums may be potentially accessed.

See here:


It's also important to be aware that when you voluntarily provide personal information (e.g., address, phone number) in a posting on the bulletin board, that information is publicly available and may be used by someone in a manner unintended by you. For that reason, we encourage using caution before offering of any personally identifying information within the message board itself.

You can review the full Terms of Service here. (http://www.toonzone.net/tos.php)

Hope this helps.

[sun]

Actually, this is covered in the Toon Zone Terms of Service which advises members of how information they decide to share on the forums may be potentially accessed.

See here:



You can review the full Terms of Service here. (http://www.toonzone.net/tos.php)

Hope this helps.
In order to read this, open up home, then pull down terms of service, then understand the the extent of the warning. A clearer simplier warning should be placed somewhere, openly, (perhaps more than once) so people new to the net, and Toonzone, can learn something. We are here to share idea about toons, but we also share other ideas too...This is not asking too much. I hope a change is made for all concerned..It is such an easy thing to do, but would help many probably stay focused on toons..And if they don't then it is their business. by doing so, we have been open and clear.That is all anyone can ask,,Few sites do this openly. It would be a classy and correct thing.to do.(and would probably change little) . I have learned to assume nothing..(the hard way) Please do this for those who need to know about this..and there are many...

[William C. Maune]

The paragraph in the Terms and Service seems pretty straightforward to me at least. Every new user is supposed to read the Terms and Service when the sign up for the forums and every Toon Zone member is responsible for knowing what is included in the Terms of Service, Rule of the Forums, etc.

[Chris Wood]

This has been common knowledge since the dawn of the Internet.

Besides, will anyone really be ruined if hackers discover their favorite Smurf is Brainy?

[HumanoidTyphoon]

I doubt that many people actually read the TOS. The fact still remains that if a person could view the posts of others they should be smart enough to know that anyone else can view their posts. The alternative would be only they could view their own posts...

The TZ cookies only include username and password. You really shouldn't have to worry about anyone getting into your cookies unless you are some high ranking official type person.(Or a fuzzy blue monster.[I feel a strange urge to write a program that deletes cookies and call it "The Cookie Mionster."]) Even so this is Toon Zone why would anyone have interest in your info here. The worst thing people would find is incriminating evidence that you like Baby Looney Tunes. Even then they still have no idea who you really are just that you exist. No one is out to get you at Toon Zone.

[EinBebop]

The worst thing people would find is incriminating evidence that you like Baby Looney Tunes.I've supported Joe McCarthy, bashed France, spoken out against homosexuality and abortion, and admitted to enjoying ET - the video game. I've gotta be on someone's hitlist somewhere.

Seriously, others have posted very personal things about their lives, and (because they were too lazy too read the TOS and haven't grasped that this information is available to millions of people) might not be happy to find that it's easier than they thought for people to find out about their suicidal tendencies and their crush on the red-headed girl down the street.

[HumanoidTyphoon]

I've supported Joe McCarthy, bashed France, spoken out against homosexuality and abortion, and admitted to enjoying ET - the video game. I've gotta be on someone's hitlist somewhere.Well I have seen an angry mob running around looking for a tiny little robot with a beach ball head.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/Kingme/fear.gif

[SuperLuigiBros]

I doubt that many people actually read the TOS
And that's why many people get banned.

But yeah, it pretty much goes without saying that anything on the internet that is not password protected is open to all to view. And even password protection does not insure 100% security.

[EinBebop]

Maybe the Internet should come with a warning. :ack:

[Chris Wood]

Nah, I'm tired of this BS PC doctrine of providing a disclaimer for any and all risks. People need to take some responsibility.

[Lucky Bob]

Nah, I'm tired of this BS PC doctrine of providing a disclaimer for any and all risks. People need to take some responsibility. For once, Desslar and I agree.


I've supported Joe McCarthy, bashed France, spoken out against homosexuality and abortion... Typically, I agree with EinBe...



...and admitted to enjoying ET - the video game.OH YOU DISGUSTING FREAK!

Anyway...

Seriously, Stu, you need to chill about this. So some people haven't figured out that the world wide web is exactly that. So what? TZ is under no obligation to repeat the superfluous. Just because I might not know that I can make a right turn on red because I've never read a driving manual doesn't mean that the government should post a "Turn right on red after stop" sign on every light post in the nation. Just chalk it up to a learning experience, and move on.

And by the way, this is in no way a slam or anything. We all learn stuff after we've been on the 'Net a while. Some of my earlier posts are a tribute to that. Good times.

[SuperLuigiBros]

Maybe the Internet should come with a warning. :ack:
That post alone makes this the "Thread of the Day!"

[sun]

Let's look at the average number of posts of people who are discussing this issue..maybe 1500 -2000...We have been around thw www. Yea, its scope is totally inclusive..what you say, is there forever, and for all..Bob is right, we make mistakes, say things we shouldn't. ok, but using his analogy, you read the rules of the road, to get your drivers license...In it it clearly states, you stop at a flashing red railroad crossing..It clear, and a strong warning. Some go around, and are hit and killed..I knew someone who died as a result of this..She was not driving, but a passenger.. One train went by, the signal was still flashing, and the driver went around, a train came from the other direction, she was in the back, and got thrown from the car, and died.
I guess what I am proposing, and I suspect that the mods, staff, and ownership will see this, is a clear warning, not hidden, about the dangers of posting personal stuff...It dosn't have to be allarming or long.. Just clear and simple: "What you post here can be seen by the entire internet, that includes millions of people. Please take that into consderation when you post something personal." In a place that is not hidden, and open, and "easily seen". The mods and artists can figure out where, No, we don't have to warn our newcomers, it would be a "courtesy". No, not everyone does it, in fact, no one does it. Yes, everyone sould know it..Well, everyone doesn't. No, we don't have to do this, but it is the right thing to do. It will hurt no one, take little time, probably change very little, but educate the new people to what the net is all about. What new members write after reading this a few times, if it is open, and easily seen. well, then that is their business...This isn't some sort of little toonzone club, it is archived, and available to everyone who uses this media. ..I thank everyone who has participated here, anyone who adds, any other ideas, or thoughts, after this, I thank you too..Stu