"House of M" and "Infinite Crisis": Which is your money on? (Spoilery)

[Chad Bonin]

House of M:
Marvel's status-quo universe changing event, roughly ten years after their last (The First Age of Apocalypse) and on the heels of last year's controversial Avengers Disassembled, will consist of a main miniseries, bunches of tie-ins (Captain America, etc.), a reworking of District X into Mutopia X, and a few concurrent miniseries (Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, etc.) focusing on how this event affects certain heroes and villains. The astonishing X-Men and the new Avengers must come together to decide the fate of Wanda Maximoff, former Avenger and daughter of X-Men friend/enemy/creator/destroyer Magneto. In the course, Scarlet Witch will affect the entire universe: the worst day for humanity would be when a mutant loses control of their powers, right?

House of M CHECKLIST
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House of M
Spider-Man: House of M
Fantastic Four: House of M
Iron Man: House of M
Mutopia X (Replacing District X for the run)
Excalibur #13-14
Captain America #10
Wolverine #33-35
Black Panther #7
Uncanny X-Men #462-465
New X-Men: Academy X #16-19
Cable & Deadpool #17
New Thunderbolts #11
Hulk #83-86
Exiles #69-71
The Pulse #10 (Is this the The Pulse: House of M Special?)

Infinite Crisis:
DC's status-quo perception changing event, exactly twenty years after their big universal one (Crisis On Infinite Earths) and on the heels of last year's controversial Identity Crisis, will consist of Countdown To Infinite Crisis, bunches of tie-ins (Justice League of America, etc.), and four concurrent miniseries (Day Of Vengeance, The OMAC Project, The Rann/Thanagar War, Villians United) focusing on how this event affects certain aspects of the DCU, all leading towards the seven-part series Infinite Crisis. Blue Beetle is dead at the hands of Maxwell Lord. The planets Rann and Thanagar are at war, putting Justice League members Adam Strange, Hawkman, and the Green Lantern Corps. at odds. Batman's distrust of the Justice League leads to his greatest weapon becoming their greatest thrat. Lex Luthor, Deathstroke, the Calculator, and other great DC villains are uniting. The Spectre has started his war against the forces of magic, including Etrigan the Demon and Captain Marvel. In the course, our view of the superheroes will change: the worst day in the DC Universe history would have to shake things up, right?

Both are starting soon, with Countdown having been released, and House of M being solicited. While Marvel has been planning this since Disassembled, DC's been planning theirs since Public Enemies, or even potentially Graduation Day. DC's said they're not fixing continuity, but telling a good story. Marvel hasn't offered that claim, and all signs are pointing to universal reshuffling.

Infinite Crisis CHECKLIST
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Countdown To Infinite Crisis
The Rann/Thanagar War Miniseries
Villains United Miniseries
The OMAC Project Miniseries
Day of Vengeance Miniseries
Justice League of America #?-?
Infinite Crisis Miniseries

So, who's got your wallet?

[the panther]

DC has my wallet through July. Everything is coming out in the next few months and emptying my wallet. But I'm only going after two of the Infinite Crisis minis and avoiding this whole House of M thing, especially after not being interested enough to keep going on with regular Marvel titles save two. I was born-and-raised a Batfan. DC has my wallet anyway. ;)

And thanks for the thread - your description of House of M makes it sound a bit more interesting and less confusing than it was sounding before. :)

[wonderfly]

Kind of a wierd question. "Which is your money on?" and "Which will you go for?" I guess you're asking which one we're looking forward to, and which one we're going to buy, but for me, they're two entirely different things.

I'm not looking forward to either really, but I'm going to buy "House of M" and all tie ins, because I care about and follow Marvel continuity. So I'm interested in what they've got planned. And by "interested" I mean "scared they're going to #$%^ everything up just like the original Crisis on Infinite Earths and Zero Hour did". Those miniseries are exactly why I won't be buy the "Infinite Crisis" tie ins and miniseries. I've got no use for DC continuity since it's of no consequence.

Isn't it sad that comic book continuity has to be shuffled around every 10 years? Don't get me wrong, Marvel's guilty of this as well, (they just have never made a whole EVENT out of the universe reshuffling before now...instead, they just drop references that are conflicting, like the Fantastic Four trying to beat the communists to the moon, Ben Grimm and Reed Richards fighting in WW2, etx...)

The natural cure for all this continuity rearranging is to actually allow for characters to GROW OLDER. They don't have to age in real time, but Spiderman doesn't have to be in his mid 20's forever, and Reed and Sue's kids can actually grow older, (instead of being eternally young; wasn't Franklin Richards born in the 60's?) In the New Xmen: Academy X title, the old New Mutants are in their early 20's, and Wolfsbane is only 19 years old. C'mon, it's been 20 years since New Mutants #1. Let characters age! Start creating new heroes to take over so that the old guard can grow old...


Marvel's status-quo universe changing event, roughly ten years after their last (The First Age of Apocalypse)
I don't think you can compare Age of Apocalypse to House of M, since the status quo was suppose to return to normal once the AOA miniseries ended.


DC's said they're not fixing continuity, but telling a good story. Marvel hasn't offered that claim, and all signs are pointing to universal reshuffling.
DC said that, huh? I'll believe it when I see it. If they're just interested in telling a good story, then "Countdown" wasn't a step in the right direction...

As for Marvel, it's going to be the degree of Universal reshuffling which is going to concern me...if they just want to take out old cheesy topical references, (change radioactive spider to genetic spider) that's one thing, but they better not do a total reboot changing classic Stan Lee/Steve Ditko/Jack Kirby issues, (examples would be totally redoing such things like Spiderman and the Green Goblin's first encounter, revising Magneto's first attack from Xmen #1, etc.) I'm going to hold my breath and pray this all turns out for the best...

[Clayface]

Hmmmm. Well, I'm not particulary hyped about either "event". I'm going to steer clear of "House of M" completely, especially since I really disliked AoA. Though I'm not excited about "Infinite Crisis", I'll probably check out all of the upcoming mini-series tie-ins. Funny thing is, I won't be checking any of them out because of their ties to "Infinite Crisis". I'll check out The OMAC Project because I like the whole Checkmate subplot that's been intertwined with the Batman books, and I'm a Rucka fan. I'll check out the Rann/Thanagar War for the the Adam Strange tie-in. I'll pick up Villians United because I love that Dr. Psycho guy and his recent appearances in Wonder Woman. And I'll probably purchase at least the first issue of Day of Vengeance because I've always kinda liked Eclipso. So, yeah, I guess DC has managed to pull me in enough to get me to spend my cash, though I'm not jumping up and down with excitement about "the event". Whether or not I buy the actual Infinite Crisis mini-series when it comes out will depend on what I thought of the tie-in mini-series.

[Ed Liu]

Howdy,

Count me in for neither. Marvel and DC are getting far more of my money with reprints of older material than anything they're doing now.

Maybe it's just having lived through too many over-hyped and under-delivering "event"� comics in my time, but I'm spreading dollars to other companies.

-- Ed/Ace

[Anthonynotes]

Probably what Ace said (though tempted to buy the $1 "Countdown" issue just to see how bad it is...). Sounds like everything I've come to currently dislike (Bats-as-paranoid-psycho, lame deaths, etc.), with "Infinite Crisis" sounding particularly more cynical than normal. I'd probably rather spend my money on the "Superman vs. Flash races" TPB, thanks...

(Off-topic, but: did you see the new "Krypto" cartoon, Ace? What'd you think of it, or its portrayal of your namesake? [I haven't seen it yet; no cable...])

-B.

[Chad Bonin]

I put up a temp. checklist; anything I'm missing?

[Redhood]

I'm going to get both. But i think I'm more excited about house of M. I really dont like the idea of a sequel to crisis on infinite earths. I didn't read age of apocalypse so i can't compare it to house of M

[Parallax]

If you asked me this before Countdown, I would have easily said Crisis. Now, who knows. Neither look that good.

If HoM does end up being a fun crossover, I'll probaly check it out in trades.

[the panther]

I put up a temp. checklist; anything I'm missing?
DC Special: The Return of Donna Troy miniseries
JLA #115 - 119

I don't know if you want all the tie-in issues, but I know that Birds of Prey #83 ties-into OMAC #3. Anything else, no clue.

:)