Worst KP episode

[AllisterH]

While there never was a KP episode that made me want to turn off the tube, (the worst KP episode was still at least as good as the average action cartoon like say "The Mighty ducks") there were still "bleh" episodes.

Fortunately there has only been 1 Episode that I thought they just phoned it in quite frankly.

"Royal Pain" - The episode with KP bodyguarding the young snotty prince. Sure, it didn't use the overworked Drakken but there was nothing about the episode (even the backstory with Ron acting as KP campaign manager) that gave me a chuckle.

All other episodes I'll watch in reruns, but Royal Pain is the only one I'll switch the tube and hope for something better.

[Natey]

lol every eps sux the whole show sux IMO! lol

[BigKPFan76]

lol every eps sux the whole show sux IMO! lol
HEAR HEAR!

I guess it must be a pity to not have a brain in your head, huh? Especially with that idiot juice in your hand.



To me, there isn't an ep yet that was bad...some were less interesting than others, but all in all, every ep has rocked so far!! :D

[Strollymonster]

I'd probably give it to one of the 11-minute episodes...none of them were very memorable or good...

[Lonestarr]

As much as I like the show, I thought you'd never ask. In chronological order:

Royal Pain (http://tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-8258/epid-169459/blockid-89407/) - You got that right. And what did they do to Ron? He's so unlikable here.

Rufus vs. Commodore Puddles (http://tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-8258/epid-262531/blockid-89407/)/Day of the Snowmen (http://tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-8258/epid-262530/blockid-89407/) - What do you get when you cross a weak Godzilla retooling with a shoddy faux horror movie? I don't know either, but it really stinks.

Return to Wannaweep (http://tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-8258/epid-262536/blockid-89407/) - From pointless to insulting to idiotic and back again.

Ron Millionaire (http://tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-8258/epid-262542/blockid-89407/) - Subtract the scenes with the money and this is...still pretty limp.

[RonDrakenfan17]

None their all great. I love the show every episode is wonderfully done, the first couple of episodes were weak because of the animation other than that no reason. Every episode rocks, I do love the episodes where Ron and Draken work together though.

[90'sCartoonMan]

I'd probably give it to one of the 11-minute episodes...none of them were very memorable or good...
Seconded.

And not that it was a bad episode itself, but the Japanese one is on all the time and now I'm kind of sick of it.

[Uncle Beaglebub]

The only episode I can't watch at all is Vir-Tu-Ron. I can't stand it! Hey, truth hurts and all that. The combination of "Dungeons And Dragons" and "Tron" put together just makes it unwatchable.

[creativerealms]

Royal Pain and Queen Be Be.

[tucsoncoyote]

Really, there are only 2 or 3 shows out of some 60 That i have seen and these are not Horrible Bad.. but more like.. Average....

Royal Pain I have to agree is really a Royal Pain.. it lacks the fun and action of a Lot of Shows. and Prince Wally was really the Least Likeable Character in the bunch..(I mean come on, Prince Wally is none other then a Prince Charles wannabe..)

Quee Bebe is perhaps another one.. The Reason why this one suffers.. is the Unbelievability of the Actual Hyperspeed Physcis rather then the story itself...

Ron Millionaire does have it's weak spots but it's far better then the first two..(Ronhanding out cash Like it's water makes you realize one thing.. Money Can't buy you happiness..)

Day of the Snowmen? This one was just too short IMHO Opinion... this one smells more like a 22 Minute ep then a lowly 11 minute blurb..(after all Using Summer Gale was in fact the weak point of this spot.. No conceived reason.. and a lot of fans write better ideas then this..(Like How did Summer buy the Weather Machine from Job Unfair? why did she Do it? My Guess is that her ratings were just poorer then the other weather ladies Hence the Jim and Tim Remarks in this ep. This episode could have been a fun romp.. but sadly was ended way too soon..)

beyond that.. There's been very few episodes that have been Average.. and in fact each one has keep me coming back for more.. and I will make a statement here.. So the Drama will leave all fo you with the same question on the lips.. Is there anything more?

That's what I am going to leave this at.. Is there anything more?


lol every eps sux the whole show sux IMO! lolSadly imisshostinCCF, I tend to disagree with your observation, and in fact I highly doubt that you have really watched Kim Possible, at all.. In fact I'm very skeptical.. and if You did watch KP, well then you have never thought about the show with an open mind.. (Sadly I have to agree to disagree here.. Kim Possible has been the trend setting show on Disney Channel, Jake Long has another good chance to be like Kim, as long as they start to shape the show up like Kim.. In fact Now I'm being Optimsitc I am saying.. but at least I've been viewing shows Probably a lot longer on Disney Channel, Disney afternoon, and One Saturday morning and I've been noting where the flaws are.. at least in some shows there is room always for Improvement in a lot of areas.. In others (it's hopeless) but beleive me Kim Possible has evolved rather nicely, and it's been the Show that has started to show that there are ideas yet to explore ..sadly it depends on whether or not we want that to happen..(In short imisshostinCCF, I've never said anything negative about Totally Spies either.. but I bet you have said that show sux as well..(in which case that's very cynnical talk.. I like both Kim and Totally Spies because they give us an option to think and ponder ideas. and that's a far better thing then you can imagine..)


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[Antiyonder]

(Ronhanding out cash Like it's water makes you realize one thing.. Money Can't buy you happiness..)
But you can sure buy a lot of comic books with them. LOL!

Anyway, I agree with RonDrakkenFan17's comment.

[Jave]

Sadly imisshostinCCF, I tend to disagree with your observation, and in fact I highly doubt that you have really watched Kim Possible, at all.. In fact I'm very skeptical.. and if You did watch KP, well then you have never thought about the show with an open mind.. (Sadly I have to agree to disagree here.. Kim Possible has been the trend setting show on Disney Channel, Jake Long has another good chance to be like Kim, as long as they start to shape the show up like Kim.. In fact Now I'm being Optimsitc I am saying.. but at least I've been viewing shows Probably a lot longer on Disney Channel, Disney afternoon, and One Saturday morning and I've been noting where the flaws are.. at least in some shows there is room always for Improvement in a lot of areas.. In others (it's hopeless) but beleive me Kim Possible has evolved rather nicely, and it's been the Show that has started to show that there are ideas yet to explore ..sadly it depends on whether or not we want that to happen..(In short imisshostinCCF, I've never said anything negative about Totally Spies either.. but I bet you have said that show sux as well..(in which case that's very cynnical talk.. I like both Kim and Totally Spies because they give us an option to think and ponder ideas. and that's a far better thing then you can imagine..)


:coyote:Look at the date he posted it. It's called April Fools Day.

[tucsoncoyote]

Look at the date he posted it. It's called April Fools Day.Right Jave and you have no realization of what April Fools day joke I pulled on the fans.. . and you know that Post in Dimension Twist..( (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=137663)Post 1?) where I said.. "It's Over.. No Seriously ... it's over...
Think again..

That's the real April Fool's day Joke I pulled on everyone..:D :evil: Cause to be honest. I and about 300 Fans know something you don't! . It's not over... not unless the fans of Kim possible want it to. After all Jave if you ever read that Hollywood Reporter article on the issues of what the New Disney Channel is about, You realize one thing.. Shows on Disney Channel are "Fan Driven.." Lizzie McGuire would have continued if Hilary Duff hadn't walked out.. but that's beside the point..

The issue is this.. It's the fans that make the say.. Look at the Witch gets disater ratings thread (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=137019).. why is it that they are getting those ratings.. (put that in your brain.. throw it around and you realize one thing.. Witch is losing that battle cause They didn't act fast enough for the fans..(plus the fact that W.i.t.c.h. while darker, is still enjoyable provided they fix the dynamicx.. I think we'll see that when Sesaon 2 occurs and Greg Weisman takes over..

as for Kim? Well she's not bad, and Like I said, it depends if the fans want her or not.. and I think after this Friday it will leave us with More questions then answers.. so will So the Drama Flop? Not really.. but it will leave you wondering like I said.. "is there anything more..(again refering to the potential here.. I Think there is..and I'm being optimisticly pessimistic..) (The Glass is neither half full nor empty.. It's just full of water..)

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[Rover_Wow]

Shows on Disney Channel are "Fan Driven.." Lizzie McGuire would have continued if Hilary Duff hadn't walked out.. but that's beside the point..

Indeed, but one is tempted to wonder if Disney was trying to get Duff to walk out (by giving her unreasonable demands) just so that they could give another reason that LM was canned instead of the usual 65 ep crap; and if their whole LM spinoff idea is an excuse to not ditch whatever had been planned for LM's continuation. Disney shows are fan driven... to a point. But that's not really what this forum (or subject) is for, so that'll be it.

Back to topic: Haven't really hated any of the eps, though the review of Return to Wannaweep at TV Tome really does hit the nose about my thoughts on the somewhat unsatisfying ending of the B-plot (Kim vs. Bonnie). Mind you, an outcome like that would never have happened ten years ago (well, not in a comedy anyway... oh wait, it happened in The Brady Bunch).

[tucsoncoyote]

Indeed, but one is tempted to wonder if Disney was trying to get Duff to walk out (by giving her unreasonable demands) just so that they could give another reason that LM was canned instead of the usual 65 ep crap; and if their whole LM spinoff idea is an excuse to not ditch whatever had been planned for LM's continuation. Disney shows are fan driven... to a point. But that's not really what this forum (or subject) is for, so that'll be it.

Back to topic: Haven't really hated any of the eps, though the review of Return to Wannaweep at TV Tome really does hit the nose about my thoughts on the somewhat unsatisfying ending of the B-plot (Kim vs. Bonnie). Mind you, an outcome like that would never have happened ten years ago (well, not in a comedy anyway... oh wait, it happened in The Brady Bunch).
I think Rover_wow the B -plot of Return to Wannaweep was indeed Weak, but this also ties back into The Better B-Plot of Bonding in Season 3..(after all This is the first time (In Wannaweep) where both Bonnie and Kim have to work together but in Bonding once we figure out one of the reasons as to why Bonnie feels the way she does, it makes a little more sense of what really happens but it still leaves a lot of questions of why there is this Bonnie and Kim Animosity.(So does this mean that Bonding actually fixed that problem? well it's possible...)

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[Jave]

Right Jave and you have no realization of what April Fools day joke I pulled on the fans.. . and you know that Post in Dimension Twist..( (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=137663)Post 1?) where I said.. "It's Over.. No Seriously ... it's over...
Think again..

That's the real April Fool's day Joke I pulled on everyone..:D :evil: Cause to be honest. I and about 300 Fans know something you don't! . It's not over... not unless the fans of Kim possible want it to. After all Jave if you ever read that Hollywood Reporter article on the issues of what the New Disney Channel is about, You realize one thing.. Shows on Disney Channel are "Fan Driven.." Lizzie McGuire would have continued if Hilary Duff hadn't walked out.. but that's beside the point..

The issue is this.. It's the fans that make the say.. Look at the Witch gets disater ratings thread (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=137019).. why is it that they are getting those ratings.. (put that in your brain.. throw it around and you realize one thing.. Witch is losing that battle cause They didn't act fast enough for the fans..(plus the fact that W.i.t.c.h. while darker, is still enjoyable provided they fix the dynamicx.. I think we'll see that when Sesaon 2 occurs and Greg Weisman takes over..

as for Kim? Well she's not bad, and Like I said, it depends if the fans want her or not.. and I think after this Friday it will leave us with More questions then answers.. so will So the Drama Flop? Not really.. but it will leave you wondering like I said.. "is there anything more..(again refering to the potential here.. I Think there is..and I'm being optimisticly pessimistic..) (The Glass is neither half full nor empty.. It's just full of water..)

:coyote:I saw it. It wasn't that good of a joke since everyone knows KP is going to end after the remaining episodes and the movie.

You may fail to realize this, but the fans have no...

You know what? I'm not even getting into this discussion again. I don't want to be responsible for hijacking this topic. Let's better put it back where it belongs.

On topic, I'll say I agree mostly with Lonestarr on his picks, specially "Royal Pain". That was a bad episode.

[AllisterH]

I'm glad people agree with me about Royal Pain.

The episode, while not being "bad bad", it definitely was below the average KP episode.

Return to Camp Wannaweep, I tend to agree with the reviewer. If Ron on his own can handle Gil the first time, why did he think he needed to become a giant beaver?

You know, I understand why Bonnie acts like that (so, really, Bonding should have been before this episode). I always figured Bonnie just was jealous.

I thought Rufus vs Commodore Puddles was hilarious but Day of the Snowmen was much weaker. Think it would have been better if say, Dementor or one of the other series villains (other than Drakken) had been used. Might have been a good followup for the "extreme faker". She could have been forced to become a weathergirl because of the loss of her show and imprisonment and decided to get revenge that way.

[tucsoncoyote]

I'm glad people agree with me about Royal Pain. I tend to agree Allister, after all It's far from Perfect but I still think that Royal Pain could have been Better written. i mean the Dynamics between the characters were good, and the plot was half way decent,but I think that the one issue that makes this one of the least Liked Episodes is because of the "Snobbery' that Prince Wally makes..(He's pompous Arrogant, and just plain Rude in some cases..) but at least the idea makes up for it..(But it's still not Bad bad, just .. meh).


The episode, while not being "bad bad", it definitely was below the average KP episode.Right I think That Royal pain could have been Imrproved upon given the fact that the idea was sound.. it was just poor execution.. that's all.


Return to Camp Wannaweep, I tend to agree with the reviewer. If Ron on his own can handle Gil the first time, why did he think he needed to become a giant beaver? I think The Answer to all this comes up in Showdown at the Crooked D, where Jocelyn admits that Ron is afraid of his fears yet stands up to the Challenge of this. (After all Any man who is brave to face his worst fears (like Monkeys, or Mechanical Horses) is a real hero.. (Kim on the other hand is just confident.. that's why she isn't that afraid of anything. (What Ron Lacks in Confidence, he makes up in rushing headlong into the Problem..and solving it in a way that is what I deem "Facing Your fear."



You know, I understand why Bonnie acts like that (so, really, Bonding should have been before this episode). I always figured Bonnie just was jealous. Well think about this AllisterH, why Is Bonnie Jealous? Well it's because Kim Has literally stolen a lot of "Bonnie's Thunder" as it were.. and in fact Kim never really understood why Bonnie was her rival until Bonding Occurred. (in short, Bonnie really was partially Jealoous, of Kim and yet also Partially regretful she had an Unhappy childhood.(Think of it this way.. Ron Stoppable has a better life because he actually lacked self Confidence..Bonnie OTOH, was Jealous because her life had been Made a Living heck by her own Siblings..(After all I figure Bonnie's the Youngest of the Rockwaller Kids, and in fact The answer is given in Bonding..(Lonnie and Connie give the answer.)



I thought Rufus vs Commodore Puddles was hilarious but Day of the Snowmen was much weaker. Think it would have been better if say, Dementor or one of the other series villains (other than Drakken) had been used. Might have been a good followup for the "extreme faker". She could have been forced to become a weathergirl because of the loss of her show and imprisonment and decided to get revenge that way.Well that's a good point.. ANd i have to agree.. They Could have used Adrena-lynn as a potential Weather girl replacement, and this could have been a good idea but sadly it's a case where maybe they wanted to just have Kim Solve a problem rather then Defeat a villain. (I think with this case Summer Gale was just suffering in the ratings race and in fact that's why she did what she did..(I feel that Snowman might have worked better as a 22 minute episode (but I highly feel Professor Dementor would have been a good choice either..) After all I have noted the patterns of each of the Villains. For Example The Seniors are in fact Just wanting not the world but to either steal something valuable or have some sort of Challenge. Drakken is the "True Megalomaniac bent on World DOmination, and that Professor Dementor is much Like Drakken, but he sets his sights a little more realistically..(that's why Dementor doesn't appear that much.. He's probably working on schemes that Take time to prepare, where is Drakken, it's a case of Toss the Plot together and hope it works.

but as for "Snowmen" Adrena-lynn doing the Weather Reporting? Hmm That might have worked, but then instead of the plot that was created they would have to enact something where she (Lynn) would be out of the way as she exacted her revenge..(in short, Adrena-lynn doing the weather idea might have been okay but iit might have upset the storyline a little (and thus maybe make it worse..(But they did leave the end of that Wide open..(especially when we see the Totem Pole sort of become alive..(The Eyes begin to Glow)

but in the end.. I think that Snowmen was just a contrived plot and really was problematic..but not totally made Useless..

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[Pathfinder1011]

The one with the dog show. The villain in this one remains me indeed of the Fugitive-(The so-called King of Pop) Both are exactly similiar--EVIL.

[tucsoncoyote]

The one with the dog show. The villain in this one remains me indeed of the Fugitive-(The so-called King of Pop) Both are exactly similiar--EVIL.ActuallY Rufus in Show, Was one of the Better ones when it comes to Ideas and Plot thoughts, there , Pathfinder1011, and in fact Falsetto Jones I think was a bit of a poke not only at whom you are refering to but also if you listen there's a little inflection of Mickey mouse in there as well. (Still I think this episode is perhaps a bit underdone when it comes to "Evil References" (I mean what Supervillain has Electrick Eels as the source of their death traps? (I mean Drakken uses Sharks and Squid, as do the Seniors, but come on, Electric Eels?)

But I think we can be safe to say that Perhaps if we look at the Episode Royal Pain, it really was a Royal pain.. why? Well I think a lot of folks have answered why this one is one of the lowest rated episodes ever..(Okay so the Prince was a snob, so he was a bit how shall i say Pompous.. but let's face it.. I think if Mom Possible wasn't going to throttle him, I thihk Kim would have eventually ...(That gives this one episode a bit of a Plus in one way.. It's amazing that with all his attitude, Royal Pain could have been a better developed story.. but sadly I think the Writers on this one were going "Monty Python" on us..

indeed I agree Royal Pain was indeed a Royal Pain!

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[I.R Joey]

For me I'd have to say that my two were "Return to Wannaweep" and "Queen Bebe." The 1st one just seemed to drag on and on for far to long with few real laughs to be found. Queen Bebe came dangerously close to the shark with the addition of Smash Mouth.


Oh and may I add Triple S to that list. That one was a snorefest for me too.

[Summoned Skrull]

I love any ep with Senor Senior Senior (even triple S...) he always reminds me of just how big a mistake Ron can make sometimes when he opens his mouth. And while it seems "Royal Pain" and "Return to Wannaweep" are in the lead here,I just wanna say I did'nt like "Royal Pain" because the prince character was just that-a royal pain! he was annoying and smug but just could'nt get me to feel sorry for him when the assassins started attacking. (I'm sorry to say,that I felt the same way about Emperor Kuzco until he decided NOT to take Pacha's land from him...).
"Return to Wannaweep" was a different reason entirely for me-the first "Wannaweep"episode was one of my three favorite all-time episodes. The followup was-meh.(I think the other posters explained it a lot better than I could). Just to be different,(and since i don't remember this one by name),I have to go with one where everyone is teamed up in science class with a partner to create a science project. Kim gets teamed with the class brain(who was still likeable even though she across as being more condescending and annoying than the prince!) and Ron got teamed up with Monique.
After that,Ron somehow stopped being the loveable,well meaning klutz and turned into a complete jerk!(Just see the ep.) Granted,he probably acted like a jerk sometimes but this was only time it really stood out for me to take notice.
my vote go to "royal pain",thanks.

[Sailor V]

Royal Pain: That episode was a royal pain! I wish they fired the writer.:mad:

[Lonestarr]

A few more comments:

- "Triple S" picks up slightly in the last few minutes, but the rest is deadly dull.

- All the News (http://tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-8258/epid-195538/blockid-89407/) - Never mind the...ahem, "villainess"; Kim gets the worst of it here, and Ron isn't even at her side.

- To the person who mentioned 'the one with the dog show' ("Rufus in Show") and the villain reminiscent of the King of Pop - 'EVIL'...that's a little short-sighted. The two are nothing alike (helium accident, for those not paying attention) and I think Falsetto Jones is very underrated as a villain. I really liked the episode.

- Plenty wrong with "Queen Bebe", I grant you (spotlight on Bonnie, no explanation for the Bebes' return), but I found the whole 'super-fast split second travel' angle really entertaining.

- About "Partners": I also dislike how Ron becomes a jerk here, though these bits are balanced by the funny Drakken/DNAmy scenes.