Anyone else cheer when . . .? (spoilers)

[JL4Ever]

When I saw Aquaman knock out GL I cheered. GL was so nasty in this episode. He didn't trust Aquaman and took every opportunity to insult him and intimidate him. However, Aquaman gave it back when he knocked GL senseless. It was so unexpected but satisfying none the less. Anyone agree?

[PZ Dude]

Yep, in the last two eposodes GL was kind of cool. Maybe it was because he thought he did something wrong. Now he is an egotistical punk with too much power! Superman handle Aguaman just right. Not patronizing just staight out this is and this is how it could be.

[kid_flash]

I think it's understandable how GL treated Aquaman. In TAS, someone around here said John was in the military. Which means if Atlantis, a place the rest of the world doesn't even recognize as a real nation, takes a nuclear sub, John's gonna be pretty ticked. Not to mention he was convinced Aquaman took the power from the sub. Still, it was cool to see Aqauman sucker-punch GL.

[Kal-el]

GL had that coming. He was such a p***k to Aquaman. Being royalty, he deserves some amount of respect.
Man, Aquaman nailed him pretty good.

[Karkull]

Aquaman's the man (and who would think that those words could ever be uttered?)! Green Lantern deserved it, not only for tonight, but for last week when he snubbed the other Lanterns.

[Failure]

I dont think GL deserved it.

First of all, JS is a military guy, you'd expect a guy like him to be at least a little agitated to find out that a hostile force has nukes.

2nd of all, it wasnt like Aquaman was all peaches and cream either. He was being a real jerk as well, royalty or not.

[JL4Ever]

Originally posted by Failure
I dont think GL deserved it.

First of all, JS is a military guy, you'd expect a guy like him to be at least a little agitated to find out that a hostile force has nukes.

2nd of all, it wasnt like Aquaman was all peaches and cream either. He was being a real jerk as well, royalty or not.

Pounding on Aquaman's tank like a child while he was recovering from near death. Concluding that Aquaman must have stole the nukes without bothering to investigate. Ordering the King of Atlantis to stay confined to a room while his assasin is out there. Are you kidding, how didn't GL deserve to be knocked on his a@#?

[dc-marvelite]

Add me to the list... even a staunch GL fan like me felt than John definitely deserved it .. and it was certainly justified and in keeping with Aquaman's character.

[Failure]

Originally posted by JL4Ever


Pounding on Aquaman's tank like a child while he was recovering from near death. Concluding that Aquaman must have stole the nukes without bothering to investigate. Ordering the King of Atlantis to stay confined to a room while his assasin is out there. Are you kidding, how didn't GL deserve to be knocked on his a@#?

1. ok, pounding on the tank maybe wasnt a classy move. Umm, no defense there.

2. Nukes were missing after the sub was attacked by Atlantians, an attack Aquaman ordered. I think it's a fair assumption to make that if the nukes are missing, the atlantians must have taken it. And if the Atlantians took it, could it have been their king who ordered that? Very possible.

3. If your assassin was "out there," you'd want to confine the potential target in an area you could cover and protect. You dont want him walking around NY. Anyway, I believe that was a team decision to keep Aquaman there.

If GL deserved to be knocked on his butt, Aquaman was just as deserving of that as well.

[JL4Ever]

Failure wrote:

2. Nukes were missing after the sub was attacked by Atlantians, an attack Aquaman ordered. I think it's a fair assumption to make that if the nukes are missing, the atlantians must have taken it. And if the Atlantians took it, could it have been their king who ordered that? Very possible.

I say:

The operative word in your defense is "assumption." He assumed based on the little knowledge he had and jumped to a wrong conclusion. All of JLers wanted to atleast reserve judgement except GL who just wanted to believe the worst and shoot off his mouth without investigating.

Failure wrote:

3. If your assassin was "out there," you'd want to confine the potential target in an area you could cover and protect. You dont want him walking around NY. Anyway, I believe that was a team decision to keep Aquaman there.

I say:

I'm sure it was a team decision but GL ordering the King of Atlantis to stay put was just arrogant. Obviously Aquaman wanted to get out there and find out who was after him and here's this little nobody ordering him around. GL could have shown some respect, which might have prevented him from getting kicked around.

[Batman 80]

So many John Stewart haters. I can't blame John for acting hostile towards Aquaman. I mean look what he did: he shot a submarine down and almost didn't allow the JL to rescue the survivors. Aquaman's behavior wasn't that great to begin with.

[JL4Ever]

Originally posted by hot rod
So many John Stewart haters. I can't blame John for acting hostile towards Aquaman. I mean look what he did: he shot a submarine down and almost didn't allow the JL to rescue the survivors. Aquaman's behavior wasn't that great to begin with.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Aquaman was a boy scout here, but his extreme behavior was expected as he was doing what he felt was needed to save his world from pollution and human contamination. So, while extreme, I can understand where he's coming from.

Now for GL, yes he has a right to be angered but he's supposed to be a force that brings justice in the universe. How can drawing conclusions without investigating, acting pretty foolishly and getting knocking on his butt put forth a good image? How can you be a force for justice if you're making assumptions and drawing false conclusions all the time?

[BeastBoyWonder]

I'm a big fan of John Stewart, but i don't like his actions this time. It was a good thing he was suspicious enough to check the sub, because he'd see the weapons removed.

[Failure]

Well look at it from JS' view. Aquaman essentially is a terrorist. Arguably, it's similar to bin laden's attack on the USS Cole a few years back (that was bin laden right? I'm not getting my terrorists mixed up am I?). Now assume, the USS Cole was a sub and had nukes on it, and say you knew bin laden or his organization sank it. And then say you find out the nukes are missing. Now hmm, it might not have been bin laden who took the nukes. He may not even wanted his followers to take them. But you know someone took them, and if they were the only ones to have access to it... This is an extremem example, and its not exactly parallel, but there are similarities. Dont look at Aquaman as a potential hero, because to everyone on earth he's a rogue villain.

Now as for GL ordering Aquaman to stay put, #1 it goes back to JS' military roots. There is no "please" in the military. But #2, do you think Aquaman would've listened if GL had said, "Now Aquaman we're fearful of your safety, we'd all appreciate it if you'd stay right where you are." I mean, yeah it's more courteous, but at that time you dont want to be courteous, you want to make sure that your point is taken seriously.

Finally, dont forget GL was attacked by Aquaman's forces. Unlike maybe Superman or WW, JS is probably more prone to letting his emotions affect his actions. And revenge is a powerful emotion.

Now, dont get me wrong JL4ever, I'm not saying GL was a saint either. I dont think he was arrogant, but yes he was short-tempered in his dealings with Aquaman. But if you look at it through GL's eyes, I think it's easy to see why he'd be ticked off at Aquaman.

[Knight]

I like John Stewert but he was being a real a** this episode so he deserved to get knocked down. but I didnt cheer though.

[Failure]

Ok, how bout this both GL and Aquaman were being egotistical jerks. And they BOTH deserved to get knocked on their butts. Which, I guess did happen anyway.

[Maxie Zeus]

Really, GL and Aquaman both peas from the same pod:

They are both headstrong, prickly, protective of their amour-propre, suspicious, and protective of their interests. Each one sees himself as defending himself and his country from an aggressor. Each one takes his duty with complete seriousness, and isn't afraid to break a few rules in the pursuit of duty.

I suspect that by the end of part II, they will each realize that and come to some sort of reluctant understanding.


Originally posted by Kal-el
Being royalty, he deserves some amount of respect.

Hmm. Been about 200 years since most of us Yanks felt that way. ;)

[Bud 'n Lou]

Actually, this episode was the only time that I actually *liked* GL. It seems to me like Phil Lamarr is trying to do an IMPRESSION of a black man, which really bugs me. This episode, it didn't bother me as much. But on further inspection, I realized he sounded the same as he did in his other appearances...which I guess means I'm getting used to the voice. Aside from that, I dunno why, but he started to grow on me. He was cool.
But it was a cool scene. I was caught completely off gaurd. I even gasped, lol. It's my favorite episode so far.