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Quincy Archer
03-31-2005, 06:52 AM
Its the Japan TV edit:shrug: which is kind of a bummer since its the on demand.
Another thing which is wierd is that they bleeped out some of the cursive words. They kept the Ass**** and bastard but the F-word and S-word got bleeped that doesnt make any sense :confused:
Beat
03-31-2005, 07:46 AM
I can understand the linear channel for Gantz. I really can.

But editing the On Demand version to Adult Swim standards? Sounds like a cheap ploy to get people to buy those overpriced DVD's.:mad:
Go-chin
03-31-2005, 10:22 AM
I don't understand why they bleep the S-word on GANTZ but have people calling each other ****head in Cromartie, unbleeped.
Jaguar
03-31-2005, 12:58 PM
But editing the On Demand version to Adult Swim standards? Sounds like a cheap ploy to get people to buy those overpriced DVD's.:mad:
I thought that's basically what the whole purpose of Anime Network was.
Beat
03-31-2005, 01:26 PM
I thought that's basically what the whole purpose of Anime Network was.
Yeah, but Anime Network usually shows everything uncut, boobies, F-words, and all, unlike a certain Turner owned network...:p

This just screams of advertising.
Dark Fact
03-31-2005, 01:34 PM
Since when did the Anime Network become leashed under the iron grip of the FCC? :confused:
Kouji Tamino
03-31-2005, 02:20 PM
Yeah, but Anime Network usually shows everything uncut, boobies, F-words, and all, unlike a certain Turner owned network...:p

There is a difference between a Digital Cable only channel and a regular Cable channel that's under the eye of censors.

Anyway, this news is disappointing. There's one bad mark for ADV in my book.
Andrew T. Hingson
03-31-2005, 02:32 PM
And they pimped the series so much in the little ads before and after a show on the Anime Network. Well fine... I think I wont watch it. It doesn't look appealing to me anyway.
Kryptonian
03-31-2005, 02:36 PM
I wish AZN would have gotten it.
Vu Man
03-31-2005, 03:18 PM
So they have two versions of masters now: the DVD release and the Japan TV airing? That doesn't make much sense because it sounds like they will be paying more instead of just using one.

Speaking of cost, I saw the Gantz artbox + DVD combo at Bestbuy for $17.99. That's usually how much a DVD costs at some online retailers and I can't imagine buying 13 DVDs for that short a show. Macross maybe, but a 26er?
livingfruitvirus
03-31-2005, 04:26 PM
Hasn't the Anime Network already edited shows for content that are on the afternoon? I'm not surprised and I knew this would happen eventually. If Anime Network's going to make friends with other cable companies, they're going to end up dealing with CEOs and executives with morals and standards and this and that, and will end up buckling under pressure. Especially with the not-so-good state ADV Films is in.
FlyByNite77
03-31-2005, 04:52 PM
There is a difference between a Digital Cable only channel and a regular Cable channel that's under the eye of censors.

Anyway, this news is disappointing. There's one bad mark for ADV in my book.|

Actually a regular cable channel isn't under the eyes of censors. They chose to censor themselves because they're afraid Congress would push for the FCC to regulate them as well. The FCC only handles over the air channels that are picked up by your regular antenna.


I don't understand why the anime network would do this though. Do they say at the end of the episode "Yo...buy the DVD and see all the sex!"? :D
Swag Jenkins
03-31-2005, 05:09 PM
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Actually a regular cable channel isn't under the eyes of censors. They chose to censor themselves because they're afraid Congress would push for the FCC to regulate them as well. The FCC only handles over the air channels that are picked up by your regular antenna.



That and the Anime Network needs advertisers.
livingfruitvirus
03-31-2005, 05:15 PM
That and the Anime Network needs advertisers.They could've been a subscription channel too. But nope. :(
Swag Jenkins
03-31-2005, 05:20 PM
They could've been a subscription channel too. But nope. :(
Wait, what is a subscription channel? I wonder how long it will take before the Anime Network can be tracked by Nielson.
Beat
03-31-2005, 05:27 PM
Didn't they say that the future of the Anime Network was their on-demand segment? That shouldn't be subject to any restrictions.

This whole deal with Gantz smells of trying to force the DVD's on people (because no one will pay $15 for 2 episodes when those same two eps are showing On Demand). I just hope Elfen Lied doesn't get similar treatment.:(
Kouji Tamino
03-31-2005, 05:43 PM
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Actually a regular cable channel isn't under the eyes of censors. They chose to censor themselves because they're afraid Congress would push for the FCC to regulate them as well. The FCC only handles over the air channels that are picked up by your regular antenna.


I don't understand why the anime network would do this though. Do they say at the end of the episode "Yo...buy the DVD and see all the sex!"? :D
Oh, I see... Boy do I feel dumb. :anime:

Still, I once heard that ADV didn't like to edit their stuff, which is why not a lot of ADV shows have been on Cartoon Network. Then again, I could be wrong about that, too...
livingfruitvirus
03-31-2005, 06:18 PM
Wait, what is a subscription channel? I wonder how long it will take before the Anime Network can be tracked by Nielson.Something like HBO. Where you can buy or cancel the individual channel, and they live off subscription money.


Didn't they say that the future of the Anime Network was their on-demand segment? That shouldn't be subject to any restrictions.
Not unless the cable companies got to them. But there's probably worse stuff on Demand. Otherwise, they don't have to edit anything.


This whole deal with Gantz smells of trying to force the DVD's on people (because no one will pay $15 for 2 episodes when those same two eps are showing On Demand). I just hope Elfen Lied doesn't get similar treatment.:(Wouldn't be a shocker.
Swag Jenkins
03-31-2005, 06:24 PM
Something like HBO. Where you can buy or cancel the individual channel, and they live off subscription money.



Oh, I see. Aren't there some groups that want HBO and other subscription channels to be regulated by the FCC, just like cable?
livingfruitvirus
03-31-2005, 06:30 PM
Oh, I see. Aren't there some groups that want HBO and other subscription channels to be regulated by the FCC, just like cable?Yes there are. Thing is on subscription channels they don't have to cower to advertisers and some of those groups. When you're an ad-supported channel on basic cable, you sometimes have advertisers with standards who will say "Excuse me, we don't want our product on a network that supports saying POOPIE on the air." On subscription channels, that's not a problem. And if someone doesn't like the content you air, you can tell them to cancel their subscription. Unlike on basic cable, where they're stuck with the channel, thus putting the ball more in their court.

The push for the government to censor cable television comes up every now and then. It's coming up a lot more these days, mostly by senators who want to make a name for themselves. With the broadcast industry as gutless as it is though, no one in TV or radio is making an attempt to fight back.
Go-chin
03-31-2005, 06:38 PM
It's already been confirmed that the first disc of Elfen Lied will have more than 2 episodes.
I think they said it'll be 4 for the first DVD.
William C. Maune
03-31-2005, 07:51 PM
Even subscription cable channels can run into issue. Granted, it wouldn't quite be an analagous situation, but recently Adelphia Communications was going to be the first cable system to offer a subscription XXX channel (subscription channels such as Playboy, etc. don't go quite that far). However, just about the time the channel was to be launched they changed their minds do to protests. While problems are lessened when a channel does not have to deal with advertisers, there can still be issues if a channel has content the cable system itself does not want to be associated with.
True Noir
03-31-2005, 10:11 PM
Its the Japan TV edit:shrug: which is kind of a bummer since its the on demand.
Another thing which is wierd is that they bleeped out some of the cursive words. They kept the Ass**** and bastard but the F-word and S-word got bleeped that doesnt make any sense :confused:
Well of course! It wouldn't make sense if they played the unedited version on tv because I'd hate to say it, but some of the scenes would be like watching some "naughty" movies. Still, it's a good series, so if anyone hasn't seen it they should definately watch it. I recommend buying dvd because it would save you a lot more money than pay On-Demand each month + it's unedited.
FlyByNite77
03-31-2005, 10:19 PM
Well of course! It wouldn't make sense if they played the unedited version on tv because I'd hate to say it, but some of the scenes would be like watching some "naughty" movies. Still, it's a good series, so if anyone hasn't seen it they should definately watch it. I recommend buying dvd because it would save you a lot more money than pay On-Demand each month + it's unedited.Well there is no pay ondemand for anime(as of yet). It's all free as long as you have digital cable.
True Noir
03-31-2005, 10:23 PM
Well there is no pay ondemand for anime(as of yet). It's all free as long as you have digital cable.
Well, that's a different case then! :anime: So I guess the better choice would be to watch it on tv, but I'd say it's a "must have in your collection of dvds" kind of thing.
Go-chin
03-31-2005, 10:51 PM
Well there is no pay ondemand for anime(as of yet). It's all free as long as you have digital cable.
I'm pretty sure only a few providers offer TAN for free.
I know a few people who pay around $30 a month for it.
Kouji Tamino
03-31-2005, 11:01 PM
I'm pretty sure only a few providers offer TAN for free.
I know a few people who pay around $30 a month for it.
O_o Really? Did not know that. We got it free when we got Comcast. "15/28 minutes complimentary"
FlyByNite77
03-31-2005, 11:12 PM
O_o Really? Did not know that. We got it free when we got Comcast. "15/28 minutes complimentary"Yea, I have comcast and Anime Network On Demand is free there. Didn't realize other providers charged for it.
Beat
03-31-2005, 11:13 PM
Yeah, but from what I hear, Comcast rates are unfairly high, so it balances out.

Still, if I'm paying X amount for my anime, it should be uncut.
Vu Man
03-31-2005, 11:53 PM
Yes there are. Thing is on subscription channels they don't have to cower to advertisers and some of those groups. When you're an ad-supported channel on basic cable, you sometimes have advertisers with standards who will say "Excuse me, we don't want our product on a network that supports saying POOPIE on the air." On subscription channels, that's not a problem. And if someone doesn't like the content you air, you can tell them to cancel their subscription. Unlike on basic cable, where they're stuck with the channel, thus putting the ball more in their court.

The push for the government to censor cable television comes up every now and then. It's coming up a lot more these days, mostly by senators who want to make a name for themselves. With the broadcast industry as gutless as it is though, no one in TV or radio is making an attempt to fight back. So basically the rule of thumb is the easier it is for a subscriber to get rid of a channel, the more likely you won't have to follow by sponsors' rules. Still some of MTV's sponsors should go over to Adult Swim sometime because MTV gets away with more in the afternoon than Adult Swim does after midnight sometimes.

As far as the government goes, who wouldn't act like that after getting fined thousands of dollars and countless radio stations being slapped with a rule book. A DJ made a comment recently on one of my local radio stations about how you can't play April's Fool jokes anymore on the radio. Not fun.
Go-chin
04-01-2005, 01:46 AM
Yeah, but from what I hear, Comcast rates are unfairly high, so it balances out. Including the HD Cablebox, we pay around $75 a month for Digital Cable.
And that's without ANY of the premium channels. (Though I don't see a need for them, just showing yes, Comcast is very, very expensive. -.-)