loch ness monster

[lifewaster23]

who here belives in nessie and for those who do, what do you think nessie is?

[guinaevere]

I like the idea that there is something in Loch Ness that has eluded all proof of existance for so long. I just don't know that I do.

[Deadman]

i belive in Nessie but i hjave no clue what she or he is

[I.R Joey]

Well as a semi obsessed Cryptozoology fan I always liked the theory that if Nessie exists she is some kind of Plesiosaur that survived to the present day. Infact that a group of these creatures survived to the present day. What a cool thing it would be if it were proven. It'd make even the discovery of the living Coelocanths look tame.

But the fact that these creatures have managed to stay hidden in a closed area for so long, even with modern technology does give some credence to the skeptics of the world.

[Metroid_spy]

Yeah... I used to like Cryptozoology but after I read somewhere or someoe told me that there was this some guy who made a model of what was supposed to be Nessie and made it look like it or he or she whatever its called. He later admitted that it was just a photograph of a model and not the real thing. I have a question for you. Why do the pictures always come out blurry? Many pictures of Bigfoot came out really blurry and they were like 10 of them. It could be just a guy dressed up in a bear suit or something.

[Kury Wagner]

No, I don't believe that there's a huge unknown living thing that no one can seem to catch proof on. Folk lore is hardly reliable. Same with Bigfoot and Batboy... it's all just the stuff of stories to keep the young'uns entertained. We have television, video games, and comics/manga, therefore there's no need for such hoohah.

I have a question for you. Why do the pictures always come out blurry?Because it has to hide its existence. They can't have the secret completely revealed. Didn't you ever watch Charmed, boy?! =P

[Mr Cat Dog]

Nessie is either a huge plesiosaur living at the bottom of Loch Ness, or some bits of plastic sewn together, hurled into the water in a weird shape, and someone putting two and two together and getting five.

Either that, or the local area just made it up to get tourists. :p

[Deadman]

Why do the pictures always come out blurry?ive seen one nessie picture that isnt that blurry
http://www.mr.nik.btinternet.co.uk/weird/corner-nessie.jpg


and i dont think nessie is a Plesiousar because people have reported seeing nessie walking on land and im pretty sure a Plesiousar cant walk

[HumanoidTyphoon]

I have a question for you. Why do the pictures always come out blurry? Many pictures of Bigfoot came out really blurry and they were like 10 of them.Nah that's just how monsters look. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out of focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get out of here.

[MahouShoujo13]

*shrugs*

I won't believe it until I see it.

Well, people say the Loch Ness is a dinosaur that apparently survived to the modern day. That is pretty amazing...

[Kury Wagner]

Nah that's just how monsters look. Bigfoot is blurry. Ooh, Gwen is blurry. Does that mean she's a monster?? Gaspy-gaspersons!

[randomguy]

Ooh, Gwen is blurry. Does that mean she's a monster?? Gaspy-gaspersons!
Nope. As readers of Sean Whitmore's "Avengers Toys: Disassembled" (http://home.earthlink.net/~fanboyprime/avengers/) know, Gwen is not of focus, but merely vibrating at fantastic speeds.

Make of that what you will.

In all seriousness, the likelihood of a large prehistoric diving reptile surviving in a small colony to the modern day is mighty implausible. The idea has a certain level of romantic charm, but I figure it's probably bunk. Sorry folks.

[Good Ol' Batmanuel!]

It'd make even the discovery of the living Coelocanths look tame.
I thought of the coelacanths (pronounced SEE-la-canth) when I saw this thread. :) Very cool-looking fish with an interesting background story, especially the one that was caught in the late 30's.

I believe in the old Nessie stories about as much as the Bigfoot ones (which I think is complete hogwash), but it wouldn't surprise me if there are some creatures that are as big as Nessie that haven't been discovered. New species of animals and plants are being discovered every day, after all.

[guinaevere]

Ooh, Gwen is blurry. Does that mean she's a monster?? Gaspy-gaspersons!GRAAAAAAAAAAAGHH!!!!


:proceeds to vibrate at terrific speed:

[Phantasm]

Well...I'd like to think it exists.Makes the world a more...interesting place!;) :p

[HumanoidTyphoon]

Ooh, Gwen is blurry. Does that mean she's a monster?? Gaspy-gaspersons!I figure her for a yeti.

[Jasmine_G.]

I think Nessie is either the last of the dinosaurs, or some new species that hasn't been discovered yet.
Maybe were seeing a bunch of different Nessie's, but we think there's only one! Maybe there's a whole family down there!

[Deadman]

Nessie is probally a new species of animal that hasent been discovered yet.

[TimTwoFace]

I don't know what to believe, but I think that the myths of these mythic monsters are fun. Nessie, the Yeti/Abomidable Snowman, Bigfoot/Sasquatch...they're all fun.

In my birth city of Kelowna, BC, they have their own world-renowned lake monster; this monster, named Ogopogo, isn't as well known as Nessie of course, but he has been claimed to have been seen long before Nessie's first appearance.

http://www.tourcanada.com/ogopogo.htm

http://www.vtours.com/kelowna/ogopogo.htm

I just find it all in good fun. :)

-Tim

http://www.globi.ca/images/sc_ogopogo.jpg

[Deadman]

Ive heard of ogopogo before. ive even seen a picture of ogopogo. not sure if its real or not though

http://cryptozoo.monstrous.com/pictures/ogopogo.jpg

[Peter Paltridge]

Didn't anybody hear? The photographer of the original 1939 Nessie photo confessed on his deathbed in 1995 that he had faked the whole thing by modifying a toy submarine. That was the photo that started the hunt, so it calls into question all these other photos as well.

Bigfoot fakers have also come clean recently; it's the same situation....they're either retired or almost dead and they'd like to die with a clean conscience.

[TimTwoFace]

Didn't anybody hear? The photographer of the original 1939 Nessie photo confessed on his deathbed in 1995 that he had faked the whole thing by modifying a toy submarine. That was the photo that started the hunt, so it calls into question all these other photos as well.

Bigfoot fakers have also come clean recently; it's the same situation....they're either retired or almost dead and they'd like to die with a clean conscience.That may be true, and if so, that's a damn shame. Even so, the myth of these creatures holds some merit, too - much like that Simpsons episode where Lisa finds out the REAL truth of Jebediah Springfield. Really, I just consider this stuff innocent fun. :)

Oh yes, and Ogopogo is on the logo for the local junior hockey team in Kelowna:


http://www.frozenink.net/images/schafjersey/KelownaRockets-Home-Fadrny-F-00-01.jpg

-Tim

[Deadman]

Didn't anybody hear? The photographer of the original 1939 Nessie photo confessed on his deathbed in 1995 that he had faked the whole thing by modifying a toy submarine. That was the photo that started the hunt, so it calls into question all these other photos as well.

Bigfoot fakers have also come clean recently; it's the same situation....they're either retired or almost dead and they'd like to die with a clean conscience.but there were other sightings of nessie before that picture was taken.

[Artimus Gigan]

but there were other sightings of nessie before that picture was taken.
Erm Nessie has pretty much been debunked, many of those water sightings were actualy a breed of large fish...

[Batman91]

Ya know this thread reminds me of that story a couple of years ago about a couple of guys fishing in a local lake and finding a big prehistoric fish.Probably just a rumor but it is interesting to think about.

As for the loch-ness monster I think I like to believe its real but theres something inside of me saying "aww come on you know its not real.":(

[Czar Gato]

I love cryptozoology, though I don't believe in Nessie, or any otther lake monster for that matter; many of them- at least in N. America- can most likely be attributed to lake sturgeon.

I must say, though, my personal favorite cryptids are the Jersey Devil and El Chupacabra.

[Artimus Gigan]

I love cryptozoology, though I don't believe in Nessie, or any otther lake monster for that matter; many of them- at least in N. America- can most likely be attributed to lake sturgeon.

I must say, though, my personal favorite cryptids are the Jersey Devil and El Chupacabra.I dressed up in a JD costume and lurked in the pine barrens for a few days...

best 300 bucks I ever earned from a bet....

it was pretty much like camping...

[Jasmine_G.]

Ive heard of ogopogo before. ive even seen a picture of ogopogo. not sure if its real or not though

http://cryptozoo.monstrous.com/pictures/ogopogo.jpg I've seen that picture before too. It's not a fake, but it might not be an Ogopogo either. You see, there are these big scary fish called Basking Sharks, and when they swim together thier dorsal fins, ( the fins on thier back ) stick up above the water, and it looks like a bunch of bumps that are stretching out over meters and meters of water.

Like this:
http://www.homepages.mcb.net/wormwell/Baskers2.JPG

Just a theory of mine:p

[HumanoidTyphoon]

The one picture above just looks like a buncha rocks to me.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Yes, he is real, and so is Santa, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Big Foot, and your mom.:o

[LightShadow1890]

Some people think that whole myth of "Nessie" is false, and some, despite the facts, still think it's true.

I read that this pyshic thinks it's nothing more than a "tulpa". A tulpa actually used to be something that is nothing than a thought, but becomes more real as more people believe in it. If you know this psychic though, no need to blurt it out.
That old picture looks nothing more than shadows to me.

[Jasmine_G.]

I dunno, it might be shadows. But, I'm pretty sure that whatever is in that picture is in the water. If you look behind it, you can see a tiny wake that's getting left behind. Personally, I think it's the basking sharks.

[Zach]

I need to see Nessie for myself before I believe in Him/Her/It.

[Otaku Bishop]

Hey, I beleive in the Loch Ness Monster, (Nessie) but those pic r bogus. Anything that big rising out of the water would make tiny waves. Look, the lake is calm!

[Czar Gato]

I dressed up in a JD costume and lurked in the pine barrens for a few days...

best 300 bucks I ever earned from a bet....

it was pretty much like camping... LOL! Did you wear an "authentic" costume, or just a generic red devil type one?

[Arxane]

I don't believe in the Loch Ness Monster, because I have a difficult time believing that, in this day and age, after all the technological advances we've come up with, we still haven't found a "fantastic" creature in the Loch Ness.

If anything, whatever is down there is certainly not a plesiosaur (which, by the way, is not a dinosaur). Plesiosaurs were air breathing marine reptiles, so they would have to resurface constantly to get air. And a single plesiosaur living in Loch Ness is not possible - an entire family of plesiosaurs would have to live there. So why don't we see plesiosaurs constantly surface for air?

And I'll believe "Nessie" is some kind of mystical reptile when I see definitive proof, which hardly comes from eyewitness accounts or blurry photographs. Photographs of Nessie often show what can be wakes created by boats or debris floating in such a way to look like an animal in a certain light (or can easily be faked). And eyewitnesses are hardly reliable. A test was done in which a group of people were shown a log in the water being pulled by a rope. Most people realized it was just a log, but one woman actually described it as a "creature with a long neck and a small head". Seriously.

Remember, what we see isn't exactly what it is. For example, witness how a dissolving shark's carcass can look like a plesiosaur (http://paleo.cc/paluxy/plesios.htm).

[Jasmine_G.]

Well, there are other creatures that many people were skeptic about. For example, the giant squid. People reported seeing those swallow and sink ships. ( Maybe that part wasn't true ) But they accually do exist!

Anything is possible... We just have to look harder.

[Deadman]

Well, there are other creatures that many people were skeptic about. For example, the giant squid. People reported seeing those swallow and sink ships. ( Maybe that part wasn't true ) But they accually do exist!

Anything is possible... We just have to look harder.you beat me too it. i was gonna mention the giant squid.

[Arxane]

Well, there are other creatures that many people were skeptic about. For example, the giant squid. People reported seeing those swallow and sink ships. ( Maybe that part wasn't true ) But they accually do exist!

Anything is possible... We just have to look harder. Who said the giant squid was a legend? People have found actual carcasses of the giant squid that prove its existence, carcasses that have been studied by scientists. The only thing we've yet to find is a live giant squid because they live in such deep, dark waters.

The Loch Ness Monster, on the other hand, has yet to provide any concrete evidence of its existence. It's existence is similiar to claims that pterodacdyls still exist (http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa061702a.htm). I have a feeling that if there really is a monster that lives down in Loch Ness, it's a lot less interesting than many people think it is.

[Deadman]

Who said the giant squid was a legend? People have found actual carcasses of the giant squid that prove its existence, carcasses that have been studied by scientists. The only thing we've yet to find is a live giant squid because they live in such deep, dark waters.

The Loch Ness Monster, on the other hand, has yet to provide any concrete evidence of its existence. It's existence is similiar to claims that pterodacdyls still exist (http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa061702a.htm). I have a feeling that if there really is a monster that lives down in Loch Ness, it's a lot less interesting than many people think it is.i think in like the 1800's the giant squid was considered a mythical creature like nessie is today, but then dead bodies of giant squids were found so they were proven to be real.

[Czar Gato]

Who said the giant squid was a legend? People have found actual carcasses of the giant squid that prove its existence, carcasses that have been studied by scientists. The only thing we've yet to find is a live giant squid because they live in such deep, dark waters. The giant squid- or Kraken- was, indeed, considered a mythical legend for many centuries. In fact, sailors who reported seeing them attack whales and ships were often ridiculed or belittled, and any scientist who believed in their existence was considered a crackpot. It wasn't until the turn of the last century, when concrete evidence was collected from shores, that the giant squid was accepted as an actual animal.