Shocking moments in Disney cartoons

[Steve Sapphire]

Post about moments in Disney animated movies and shows that made you think something like "I can't believe they got away with that!"

The only one that comes to my mind is the joke in The Emperor's New Groove where Yzma lifts up her dress to reveal a knife.

[Wolfcruiser]

The one "Donald's Happy Birthday" short, where he makes his nephews smoke cigars. LOL, every may say it's cruel, but I'm sure parental instincts at that time didn't care much, since they were more strict than than today.

[Wolfcruiser]

The only one that comes to my mind is the joke in The Emperor's New Groove where Yzma lifts up her dress to reveal a knife.
*LOL* Loved that one! :D Kuzco and Pacha were so relieved.

[Lehteb]

The one "Donald's Happy Birthday" short, where he makes his nephews smoke cigars. LOL, every may say it's cruel, but I'm sure parental instincts at that time didn't care much, since they were more strict than than today.

Surprising the Disney Channel didn't do away with the smoking in that cartoon, since they cut smoking out of almost all of the classic cartoons.

I can't think of anything extreme, but there was one part from Home on the Range where Maggie makes a comment about her utters: "Yeah they're real; quit starin'." An uncharacteristic sex joke in a Disney cartoon, and was the ONLY thing that merited Range's PG rating.

[Sandoz]

There are plenty of moments in Gargoyles that are shocking, considering how tightly censored cartoons are these days. For example:

*The Castle Wyvern massacre in "Awakening".
*Demona going on a rampage through the streets in "City of Stone", shattering (and effectively killing) people who had been turned to stone. There's one nasty bit where she only smashes a woman's arms--disturbing when you think about how she'll be maimed when the spell reverses at daylight.
*Also from "City of Stone": Demona picks up a piece of stone that turns out to be a shattered gargoyle's face.

[Jave]

Surprising the Disney Channel didn't do away with the smoking in that cartoon, since they cut smoking out of almost all of the classic cartoons.The short always aired uncut because smoking was pretty much the plot of the short. However, I believe Disney Channel stopped showing the cartoon at one point. (Which is weird because I know it's been released on Home Video at least twice, and it's scheduled for Vol. 2 of the Donald DVD)

There's also "Pluto's Judgement Day".

[BigKPFan76]

Kim gets knocked out by that falling laser cannon in Ron Factor...to me that was really shocking when i first saw it...still is actually.

[Michael24]

While I wasn't really "shocked," I was surprised by a moment in ATLANTIS: THE LOST EMPIRE . . .


Lyle Rourke's death, not just being turned into a stone creature, but then he gets caught in the balloon's fan and is actually shattered to pieces by the blades.


Also, I thought Helga's introduction in Milo's apartment was pretty sexy for a Disney movie. (Though listening to the commentary, not as sexy as what the filmmakers originally wanted to do. :D )

And of course, RUNAWAY BRAIN with Mickey was pretty damn intense and creepy for a Disney short. But freakin' awesome!

[Fone Bone]

Frollo grabbing Esmerelda and sniffing her hair in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. And of couse Hellfire with him going completely insane with lust.

Quasimodo's humiliation from the crowd in the festival was pretty scary too.

[GagaMan]

I can't think of anything extreme, but there was one part from Home on the Range where Maggie makes a comment about her utters: "Yeah they're real; quit starin'." An uncharacteristic sex joke in a Disney cartoon, and was the ONLY thing that merited Range's PG rating. Wow, that film got a PG rating over there just for that? Was a U (Anyone) ratin here in the UK. Hmm.

Oh, and how about The Three Cabellros? The entire last 20 minutes of that film seemed to be about Donald Duck's sexual frustration. Of course, I could be looking too deep into it.

[TimTwoFace]

I was always shocked with the level of brutal violence that Negaduck got away with on DARKWING DUCK; yes, a lot of it was of a cartoonish variety, visually speaking, but going into the mind of the character and just seeing how evil the thoughts behind these actions are...whoa!

Apparently a lot of this has been cut out of the show when it aired on Toon Disney. 'Tis a shame.

-Tim

[90'sCartoonMan]

There are plenty of moments in Gargoyles that are shocking, considering how tightly censored cartoons are these days.
Let me add Broadway shooting Elisa in "Deadly Force". A good guy hospitalizing another good guy is shocking.

Then there's that episode of House of Mouse where Pete is trying to drive Hades out of the club so he can shut it down. Pete dresses up as Aphrodite, and when Mickey reveals that it's actually Pete, Hades says "What kind of club are you running?" Wow. Hilarious, but just wow.

[Ishtar]

I was shocked when King Stefan and King Hubert got drunk during Sleeping Beauty. I always found that scene hillarious.

[Conan-san]

The amout of punishment Chiro is on the receaving end of in SRMTHG is amazing to say the least.

I was shocked when Manderin reveled himself to be the one who decapited Chiro's Girlfriend (and going into quite graphical detail of such) and even more shocked when Chrio didn't go nuts on him.

[John Pannozzi]

Vanessa turning into Ursula, from the Little Mermaid. That scene scared the heck out of me as a kid, and I haven't seen that film since. I was also scared in WFRR when Judge Doom turned out to be a toon, but I've watched that film many times over the years.

[Patchwork]

I was also scared in WFRR when Judge Doom turned out to be a toon, but I've watched that film many times over the years. That scene STILL give me the willies. I remember walking around at the age of ten, creeped out of my mind, and feeling too embarassed to tell any one what I was so freaked about.

[RonDrakenfan17]

was shocked when Disney aloud Ron to do the coyote impression when he saw Kim in the dress in that episode Emotion Sickness. I think we all were a bit surprised by that episode though ;)

I mean it did have a lot of sexual things in their, jokes and things lol.

[Hordesman]

I was shocked when King Stefan and King Hubert got drunk during Sleeping Beauty. I always found that scene hillarious.

Well, there's also the Pink Elephants scene in Dumbo where Dumbo and Timothy were drunk. That stuff wouldn't make it to boards nowadays.

[Behonkiss]

That scene STILL give me the willies. I remember walking around at the age of ten, creeped out of my mind, and feeling too embarassed to tell any one what I was so freaked about.JUST!

LIKE!

THIIIIIS!

[Russkafin]

When Malefocent says "HELL" in Sleeping Beauty! :eek:

[Peter Paltridge]

They said "hell" about ten times in 101 Dalmatians due to Cruella's hideout carrying the name of Hell Hole.

I'm always surprised by the amount of drinking in these old cartoons...it goes completely against the "older generations are always more prudish" rule. The last drunk seen in a Disney cartoon was the bit-player mouse that called Ratigan a "rat" and was consequently devoured in 1986.

[phonica]

Mention of concubines in Mulan... Hook calling Tink a wench (although there's nothing wrong with that really)... the fact Ariel walks around without pants for quite some time.... the use of a character like Jessica Rabbit... the line in Aladdin where Genie says "i'm getting kinda fond of ya Al... not that I want to pick out curtains with you or anything"... when Drakken says "i'm a big bad mother-" and kim stops him from finishing the sentence... There are more, but thats all I cna think of at the present.

None of this particularly bothers me, just makes you think "Disney put that in their film?!"

[phonica]

Oh and... "you married Elastigirl.... and got BIZZAY!"

[Rover_Wow]

Not exactly shocking per se, but would you have foreseen Disney doing these 5 years ago (never mind that some of the shows mentioned hadn't premiered at the time)?
- The Weekenders losing more of the competitions they entered than winning ("Talent Show" being most gratituous of the losses)
- Penny Proud drops the football
- Kim Possible loses cheerleading contest... not to Bonnie, but some guy dressed as a shark
I tell you, these outcomes were pretty unheard of in comedy until recently.

[Crash]

Gargoyles, the eppisode "Future Tense". No further explanation needed.

Killing off the entire crew (save for the 'command staff') in Atlantis was also pretty surprising. And very, very disapointing. A couple hundred faceless grunts die, there is a solemn 30 seconds, then we jump straight to a scene of Milo being a goof. Pft.

[Bomby]

I remember when I first bought Fantasia on DVD. It was the first time I'd seen it in many years. So, I'm sitting through "Night on Bald Mountain", and it's getting to be near the end. I TOTALLY backed it up and did a double-take when those harpy-like creatures flew by the screen. TWICE in a row you got this BIG close-up of their breasts. And not like in "Nutcracker Suite" or "Pastoral Symphony", either. These were huge close-ups, and the nipple and areola were drawn on there and everything. I walked around for a good half hour after that going, "Oh, my GOD!" I wouldn't expect that from old Disney, y'know? Movies like Heavy Metal, yeah, but Disney is hardly Heavy Metal.

[Peter Paltridge]

Some breasts got through? That's interesting...how fast did they go by? The original Fantasia plan was to have bare-chested Centaurs in the Pastoral part of the film, male AND female, to be correct to the myth. It was for the sake of art, not merely to get away with drawing boobies...but the Hays office naturally struck it down and flowers had to be drawn over the nipples.

But now what's this--you say they missed a few?

[Jon Hanson]

I remember when I first bought Fantasia on DVD. It was the first time I'd seen it in many years. So, I'm sitting through "Night on Bald Mountain", and it's getting to be near the end. I TOTALLY backed it up and did a double-take when those harpy-like creatures flew by the screen. TWICE in a row you got this BIG close-up of their breasts. And not like in "Nutcracker Suite" or "Pastoral Symphony", either. These were huge close-ups, and the nipple and areola were drawn on there and everything. I walked around for a good half hour after that going, "Oh, my GOD!" I wouldn't expect that from old Disney, y'know? Movies like Heavy Metal, yeah, but Disney is hardly Heavy Metal. I was totally shocked when I saw that, and I thought the nipple-less topless female centaurs were risque for a Disney film.

[Behonkiss]

Killing off the entire crew (save for the 'command staff') in Atlantis was also pretty surprising. And very, very disapointing. A couple hundred faceless grunts die, there is a solemn 30 seconds, then we jump straight to a scene of Milo being a goof. Pft.Could've been worse. There could have not been a remembrance scene at all.

[Bomby]

Some breasts got through? That's interesting...how fast did they go by? The original Fantasia plan was to have bare-chested Centaurs in the Pastoral part of the film, male AND female, to be correct to the myth. It was for the sake of art, not merely to get away with drawing boobies...but the Hays office naturally struck it down and flowers had to be drawn over the nipples.

But now what's this--you say they missed a few?
Went by relatively quick---but the pic was like "hi there! we're boobs and we're taking up ALL OF YOUR SCREEN, MUAHAHA!"

And as for the centaurs, must of the time the were covered up by flowers, hair, etc., but in the very beginning, when they're in the water, there's a few that aren't covered up. But they weren't detailed, and the were considerably smaller than the ones in "Night on Bald Mountain".

As for the faeries, I think they got away with it 'cause they fairies are so tiny, you don't really notice. Or something.

[Bunai]

quite a lot things. too bad Dis is listening to Soccor moms now :sad:

Cinderella
-the step sisters ripping her dress apart. shes already humiliated enough
it may be me, but it was like they were killing her

HBoND
-Esmerelda's intro
-the town pelting Qusy with fruit...so sad, and the way his face was animated
-Frollo...his entire portrayal...yeesh...Nuuuuuttttcaaaassse
-Hellfire song...its so creepy and posssive
-Frollo locking a family in their home and trying to burn them a live..."made an example of" as he put it
-the near burning of Esmerelda

Pochantos
-death of Kokoum (spelling?)
-Smiths death sentence...his head being smashed? yeesh

Gargoyles
-Demona smashing people in the city (i'll never get over that ep)
-Falog n Demons relationship...talk about sexual tension when they clearly displayed their like for each other in front of the clan
-Death of Macbeths cousin...forgot his name. but his eyes just evaporated and it was really disturbing
-Alisa kissing Golith. i have no problem with it, but i'm sure parents find a woman kissing a 'monster' nerving

Little Mermaid
-Obviously nude Ariel
-Eric stabbing Ursula with the ship

[Phantasm]

Frollo grabbing Esmerelda and sniffing her hair in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. And of couse Hellfire with him going completely insane with lust.

Quasimodo's humiliation from the crowd in the festival was pretty scary too.
Yep. I was so completley shocked at that.

[Queen of Hearts]

My memory of some movies/cartoons may be a bit fuzzy, so forgive me for any possible errors:) :

Little Mermaid

-The King smashed Ariel's collection.
-After the song "Kiss the Girl," Ursela calls Ariel a tramp.:eek:

The Lion King

-Mufasa's death
-Zazu tells Simba he would be a pathetic king

Hunchback of Notre Dame

-Frollo kills Quasimodo's mother
-When Frollo hunted Esmeralda

The Rescuers

-Everything that Medusa did to Penny was shocking (and appalling).

Pepper Ann

-I never truly liked this show, but there was this one episode where Pepper Ann says, "drama sucks." I didn't expect to hear that in a cartoon intended for small girls.:shrug:

Tailspin

-Baloo yells at Molly in the snow duck episode. Poor little girl.:(
-Rebecca is left tied above a fire pit and is left to fry (it was in the episode with the castle curse, I forget the episodes title).

*There were many shocking moments in this cartoon that I can't recall at the moment.

Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers

-The episode where the criminal was a "baby." The jerk tried to fry the Rescue Rangers in the furnace!
-'Adventures in Squirrel Sitting': the whole ordeal inside the machine. Fat Cat really wanted them to be cat food...:ack:
-The episode where Monterey Jack yelled at Zipper. When Monty tried to apologize, Zipper got captured, and Monty suffered a lot for it-but he was really sorry!:sweat:

That's it for now. I hope I can think of more.

[Peter Paltridge]

There was a Timon and Pumbaa cartoon where Timon nearly dies, then his guardian angel says if he does one good deed, he'll be admitted into Meerkat Heaven. Timon twists this around to "If I do no good deeds, I'll never die." The next few minutes are Timon deliberately ignoring animals in peril, with it often leading to grisly fates for them. I thought they wouldn't allow it in a Disney cartoon, but there it was. Geez, Timon....

That one Darkwing episode where DW deliberately didn't wear a helmet, then died as a result. I'm told that one's been pulled out of reruns now.

The Mamluk zombies coming undone one limb at a time in Aladdin, and the show still getting a Y rating. (C'mon, that whole Mamluk thing is just disturbing if you really think about it.)

And then there was a Doug episode where Doug said "sex," though I think it was a prime-time one or something.

[Steve Sapphire]

When the above poster mentioned Doug it reminded of another one.

Mr and Mrs Funnie are in their bedroom and Judy is secretly filming them.

Mr Funnie says to his wife "Honey, is that a wart on my..."

Before he could finish the setence they notice Judy and tell her to get out.

[Baltofan]

"Yeah they're real; quit starin'."

My fave quote!

There is a some loud burping in The Lion King and Home On The Range, and some smoking in Atlantis, Pinocchio and Oliver & Company.

[Howard Fein]

I was always shocked with the level of brutal violence that Negaduck got away with on DARKWING DUCK; yes, a lot of it was of a cartoonish variety, visually speaking, but going into the mind of the character and just seeing how evil the thoughts behind these actions are...whoa!

Apparently a lot of this has been cut out of the show when it aired on Toon Disney. 'Tis a shame.

-Tim

Before DARKWING premiered on ABC's Saturday AM schedule and syndication simultaneously in fall 1991, many of the made-for-syndie Disney series indulged in occasional slapstick violence that would've been verboten on the networks. It seemed OK for Monterey Jack and Don Carnage to be blown up in typical cartoon style.

But seemingly every episode of DARKWING- both ABC and syndie- had him fall victim to explosion, electric shock, flattening and plunges from great heights, all with the usual extremely temporary cartoon results. In one early ABC episode, a Western villian fired two handguns, leaving Darkwing charred and smoking ("This crisps my cape."); there's immediately a wipe to the next scene. Cartoons made from the forties all through the sixties for both theatres (but virtually never from Disney!) and TV featured this type of gag; :tomcat: :coyote: :daffy: :sylvester :woody: were but a few victims of inopportune gunfire. H-B stalwarts Loopy De Loop, Quick Draw McGraw, Snagglepuss and Ricochet Rabbit took quite a few shots as well. It's quite surprising that the ABC censors allowed it in 1991.

The network censors seemed to lighten up quite a bit in the nineties. There may have been external pressures. Maybe it was the success of many cartoon series produced for syndication that didn't have to pass the muster of Standards & Practices. (For example, in every episode of INSPECTOR GADGET the Chief is comically blown up by the 'self-destructing' message.) FOX, which was noticeably more cutting-edge than the Big Three, introduced a Saturday AM cartoon schedule in 1990 that (a) was largely successful; and (b) featured shows that, like the syndicated shows, had a much higher level of violence and slapstick mayhem. Think TOM & JERRY KIDS, TAZ-MANIA, X-MEN.

Many subsequent Disney cartoons appearing both on Saturday AM schedules and in syndication experienced a similar 'loosening up'. A framing segment in CBS' 1992 cult classic RAW TOONAGE had Scrooge blasted by an electric-eye cannon he set up to protect his vault. THE SHNOOKUMS AND MEAT CARTOON SHOW is said to emulate REN & STIMPY in graphic design and content- meaning few holds barred as far as violence or grossness.

But one thing that continues to shock me was an episode of the 1993 syndie-only BONKERS half hours- as opposed to the Bonkers shorts on TOONAGE. A snooty critic falls victim to a serial car bomber. While he appears to suffer the usual cartoon explosion injuries, the effects of the bomb on the car and environs is shockingly vivid and realistic- making the explosion look unsurvivable. Bonkers and Lucky similarly fall 'victim' to a planted bomb elsewhere in the episode. If BONKERS went the distribution route of other 'dual' series (DARKWING, GOOF TROOP, ALADDIN, TIMON & PUMBAA), this episode would never be aired on a network's Saturday AM schedule!

[phonica]

some smoking in Atlantis, Pinocchio and Oliver & Company.
In Peter Pan, Captain Hook smokes with a double cigar holder... IMO the smoking was that shocking, because it was widely accepted then.

This reminded me of the part in Peter Pan where they get practically stoned with the Indians... it turned them green, and I've seen that happen to a few people after smoking marijuana...

[ToOn~g@l]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tarzan, especially in the beginning where his parents get killed and you see bloody paws on the wooden floor from Sabor.

also the part where Clayton dies is pretty gruesome.

[TimTwoFace]

Before DARKWING premiered on ABC's Saturday AM schedule and syndication simultaneously in fall 1991, many of the made-for-syndie Disney series indulged in occasional slapstick violence that would've been verboten on the networks. It seemed OK for Monterey Jack and Don Carnage to be blown up in typical cartoon style.
Oh, I can understand that - Tex-Avery-esque cartoon violence has been around forever, and DARKWING DUCK made use of this cartoony aspect to a great extent - and successfully, too. It was some of the more mature themes that I was happily surprised to see Disney get away with - Negaduck wanting to maim everyone in a convulescent (sp?) hospital just for the fun of it, for example, was a needlessly violent and more menacing than your usual "explode a cartoon bomb in the heroes' faces" joke.

It's been a while so I know there's more examples - but that's one that I could remember.

-Tim

[I.R Joey]

Well just saw Kim Possible's 2nd movie "So the Drama" and all I have to say is "Sheego and The Tower" I held my breathe for a moment there, I'm told alot of other KP fans feared the worst too.

[kimpossible1fan]

In Kp's So The Drama when there actually was blood and Kim looked in pain. Also the last battle was intense.

[Elven Moon]

That cartoon short where the Devil (at least I think it is) brings forth his demons while it's raining at a farm. Very freaky and dark, scared me as a kid and still does today. It was on that old Disney Halloween Special. Those Heffalumps are pretty trippy, too.

[mac]

This is a good question. I racked my brains and it was hard to think of a Disney scene that shocked me (although people have come up with good ones those scenes didn't shock me personally). One I can think of is in the House of Mouse April Fools episode. There is a cartoon in which Mickey makes out he is going to propose to Minnie, he sets up the scene and really lets Minnie believe he is actually going to do it before completely (and very loudly) humilating her. I just found it so cruel and completely out of character for Mickey. It's funny really because a scene later in the cartoon (where Mickeys lets Mortimer think he's killed him!) was edited out of U.K airings, but that bit didn't shock me.

I also remember being shocked when I first saw a clip from Return of Jafar. The animation was so obviously inferior I was honestly amazed to see Disney drop their standards so much. A similar thing happenned again when I saw an advert fo a Timon and Pumbaa video which had really, really ugly animation.

The only other one I can think of is for an early Disney Silly Symphony I have never seen! When someone told me what happens at the end of 'El Terrible Toreador' I was pretty shocked! If anyone's curious check out the Encyclopedia of Disney Shorts. I wonder if it's as bad as I imagaine.

[Lil' Joker]

In Pepper Anne, the epi about breasts and 'support'. Especially when she passes by the power station (???) on her bike and from a top down view, the towers look like breasts exactly. I wasn't shocked personaly, but I can see the soccer mom's writing the FDA a few e-mails...

Shego getting knocked into the tower in KP: So The Drama. I really thought KP had murdered her!

[Skeeter]

... when Drakken says "i'm a big bad mother-" and kim stops him from finishing the sentence...
Actually that line was more of a reference to "Shaft". The theme song has the line "You see this cat Shaft is a bad mother--" and the backup girls immediately chime in with "shut your mouth". I actually thought it was pretty funny when I saw that episode. Especially when Drakken responds, all defensive, "I'm only talking 'bout Nana!"

[ChIbI_MaDdIcHaN]

1. The entire Hunchback of Notre Dame movie really. There are so many points of that movie I was actually surprised.
-Hellfire
And I thought Guston's song was bad, but the man was like, trying to kiss a image of a woman from flames. And was like, sniffing the cloth she had given him. That was probably one of the best Disney villain songs ever created, mainly because it really showed Frollo's insanity--but still, a 'and they put this in a Disney movie?' moment.
-God Help the Outcast
It's a very beautiful song, but I didn't think, since it's such a touchy issue, Disney would make a song about well, religion. (Actually, the entire movie centered around it, which surprised me even more.)
-The Violence
Most Disney movies have it, but we saw a woman get kicked in the face and hit her head on stone steps. We saw him nearly drop a child into a well. Then there was Moto at the Feast of Fools, getting totured. (I still cringe when I see that part...) Phoboes getting hit by that arrow. Moto kicking Phoboes in the head, even if it was to keep him quiet. The battle at the end at the church.
-Esmeralda's Dance
Wasn't that bad, but the whole 'sitting on a man's lap' and 'poll' thing had be going :eek: And they threw money at her on top of it...
-Fighting in a the Church
Does anyone else wonder where all the molten lava seemed to go? But anyway: seriously. Maybe because it was a church but the whole assult on Notre Dame actually made me go :eek: yet again. (I did the same thing during 'Birthmark' on Teen Titans.)

2. Ursella's Death
Didn't they like, show her getting stabbed in the stomack by the ship? Actually the whole part, from her trying to blast Ariel to kingdom come with the trident had me go well dang...

3. Mufusa's Death
If you want to count Bambi, I couldn't think of another movie (I've seen) where they killed off a main character. And in such a sad way. It's the only timed I actually cried in a Disney movie.

[phonica]

Actually that line was more of a reference to "Shaft". The theme song has the line "You see this cat Shaft is a bad mother--" and the backup girls immediately chime in with "shut your mouth". I actually thought it was pretty funny when I saw that episode. Especially when Drakken responds, all defensive, "I'm only talking 'bout Nana!"
Ooh i didnt know that... I havent heard the Shaft theme tune enough to take in lyrics... it's a pimping tune as far as theme songs go.

[Meow]

Big spoiler for "The Incredibles". Don't read if you haven't seen the movie.

I was pretty darn surprised whenever Syndrome died. Mr. Incredible actually killed him.

I mean, I guess he kind of deserved it, (He was saying that he'd eventually get Jack Jack .) but you have to keep in mind that at that point he didn't have Jack Jack in his possession...and that he was pretty much just making a threat....like many villains do. Then Bob throws a freaking car at him, and he gets sucked into the engine of his plane. I thought that was pretty messed up.

Okay, I just made myself feel bad.

[Taranee014]

Big spoiler for "The Incredibles". Don't read if you haven't seen the movie.

I was pretty darn surprised whenever Syndrome died. Mr. Incredible actually killed him.

I mean, I guess he kind of deserved it, (He was saying that he'd eventually get Jack Jack .) but you have to keep in mind that at that point he didn't have Jack Jack in his possession...and that he was pretty much just making a threat....like many villains do. Then Bob throws a freaking car at him, and he gets sucked into the engine of his plane. I thought that was pretty messed up.

Okay, I just made myself feel bad.
I was pretty surprised, too.

[The Weed Of Cri]

I got to this thread late, so most of my best choices have already been mentioned by other folks, but here's a few that haven't been mentioned yet:

Aladdin And The King Of Thieves: When the wedding of Aladdin and Jasmine is interrupted by an attack that makes the ground shake, Genie says, "I thought the Earth wasn't supposed to move until the honeymoon!"

Shego clotheslining Ron in "So The Drama". This kind of violence can be imitated very easily by kids, and Disney usually avoids showing things like that.

Gargoyles: Awakening, Episode #1: Xanatos says, "Pay a man enough and he'll walk barefoot through Hell."

Gargoyles: Eye Of The Beholder: Eliza removes the skirt of her Halloween costume (Belle from Beauty And The Beast) and shows that she's got her service automatic tucked into a thigh holster that she is apparently using as a garter to hold her stocking up.

[Queen of Hearts]

Aladdin and the King of Thieves reminded me of another shocking moment within it:

When Aladdin fights Sa'Luk, Sa'Luk slashes Aladdin's arm with his claw, and is actually shown bleeding in the thunder clap.

[phonica]

Aladdin And The King Of Thieves: When the wedding of Aladdin and Jasmine is interrupted by an attack that makes the ground shake, Genie says, "I thought the Earth wasn't supposed to move until the honeymoon!"
Yes! I forgot about that, but it did make me go "wha?!" Maybe they thought nobody would realise, because they dont expect big sales from the dtv.

[Bomby]

Aladdin and the King of Thieves reminded me of another shocking moment within it:

When Aladdin fights Sa'Luk, Sa'Luk slashes Aladdin's arm with his claw, and is actually shown bleeding in the thunder clap.
If you watch the trailers for the movie on other movies, it shows blood on Aladdin's sleeve in scenes from the song "Welcome to the Forty Thieves," but they re-coloured it when the actual movie was released so that there was no blood.

[Queen of Hearts]

Yeah. I remember that. I was really shocked at the time I saw it, because I didn't expect something like that in Disney.

[TuxedoKamen]

My memory of some movies/cartoons may be a bit fuzzy, so forgive me for any possible errors:) :

-Mufasa's death
-Zazu tells Simba he would be a pathetic king

The Rescuers

-Everything that Medusa did to Penny was shocking (and appalling).



That's it for now. I hope I can think of more.

Yikes. I forgot how disturbing the Rescuers was. Would they even make something like that today? It was creepy. Awesome premise though. Bob Newhart as would-be badass hero mouse. ;)

[Junkman23]

Big spoiler for "The Incredibles". Don't read if you haven't seen the movie.

I was pretty darn surprised whenever Syndrome died. Mr. Incredible actually killed him.

I mean, I guess he kind of deserved it, (He was saying that he'd eventually get Jack Jack .) but you have to keep in mind that at that point he didn't have Jack Jack in his possession...and that he was pretty much just making a threat....like many villains do. Then Bob throws a freaking car at him, and he gets sucked into the engine of his plane. I thought that was pretty messed up.

Okay, I just made myself feel bad.

more about the incredibles.

the guns, the hitting of children, just the shear evil of Syndrome, i mean i liked how he wasn't a flat evil character but the guy was a total jerk. the second you see the kid being taken hostage at the end and the whole "THERE ARE CHILDREN ON BOARD" missle thing. that was just wrong on so many levels. i'm glad they had it though really made me hate Syndrome

ya the pepper ann cartoon about getting bras really kinda shocked me but its one of the best episodes because of that. breast jokes a plenty, support girl, and the song the underwear store people sing. hey lizzie mcguire did an episode like this later on. and its something girls have to go through so koodo's to them for making it.

now if they'd only make a episode of American Dragon about changing from underoo's to boxers.

[Wondergirl]

The Incredibles has been out for some time now. So has the DVD. I think it's safe to drop the spoiler tags, as anyone who wants to see it has seen it.

[OverMaster]

In the House of Mouse "Mickey's Big Break" episode, where Minnie and Daisy get in the house and see Mickey and Donald in women's clothing, and Goofy with his pants down. Hilarious, but also, it was shocking to see a joke with so much homosexual subtone in a Disney cartoon, starring Mickey, Donald and Goofy, no less.

[ObiWanCDRR]

Well, when I was a kid, I was shocked at this scene in the Rescue Rangers episode "A Fly in the Oinment"

Zipper/Nimnul, bereft of the dubious concealment of the night, ducks behind a mailbox to avoid a car, and dives for cover in some bushes next to a school. He overhears a teacher talking through an open window.

Teacher: Now then, Franz, I've read your short story, and frankly I find it ... bizarre. Do you expect the reader to believe that one night a fellow went to bed and the next morning he woke up as an insect? I mean really. Have you been reading too much Spider-Man? Do you know anyone who looks like a Daddy-Long-Legs?

Franz: <Something>

The teacher looks out the window and sees Zipper/Nimnul.

Teacher It's brilliant! A+!
(Adapted from the episode summary by John Novak on Julie Bihn's RR site. (http://www.juliestudio.com/gadget/episodes/fly.html). Emphasis added.)

When I saw the episode, I recalled by grade-school knowledge of copyright law and was surprised that they could do that. :)

[Chris Kodiak]

I know some of these have already been said, but they still kinda surprised me.

The Incredibles
Syndrome gleefully yelling, "You married Elastigirl!? And you got bizzay!"

Helen's warning to Dash and Violet..."These men will not exercise restraint because you are children."

The man's attmepted suicide in the beginning of the film.

Gargoyles
Seeing Elisa Maza laying in a pool of her own blood after Broadway shot her on accident (though they cut that part out. Now you just see a close-up of Elisa's face after the gunshot).

Xanatos' "Pay a man and he'll walk barefoot into hell" line.

Pinocchio
Jiminy Cricket snapping, "Go on! Make a jackass out of yourselves!" when he sees Pinocchio and Lampwick smoking stogies and playing pool in a bar.

Then there was Lampwick's transformation into a donkey. He almost sounded like a monster.

The Little Mermaid
Ursula getting stabbed in the breast by the ship's hull (or whatever you call it).

Mulan
When Mushu panics about the others seeing Mulan in the nude when she bathes in the pond.
"I can think of a couple of things they're bound to notice!" he screams.

Oliver & Co.
Seeing Roscoe and Desoto get electrocuted after fighting Oliver and Dodger on Sykes' limo in the subway.

[DarkGojira]

Pinocchio
Jiminy Cricket snapping, "Go on! Make a jackass out of yourselves!" when he sees Pinocchio and Lampwick smoking stogies and playing pool in a bar.
Actually, I didn't find that shocking to myself, because it basically means, "Donkey."

[Chris Kodiak]

It just kind of amazed me that they would say "jackass" in a disney cartoon made in the 1950s.

[phonica]

It just kind of amazed me that they would say "jackass" in a disney cartoon made in the 1950s.
IMO Things were far less uptight in the '50s (regarding censorship)... only recently has everything gone so politically correct

[Sailor V]

Although it's not a Disney cartoon but it aired on Toon Disney it's the Care Bears pilot episode The Land Without Feelings. The part where Kevin (yes I still know that young boy's name even though I haven't seen it since 1998) drinks a potion created by Cold Heart, he turns into a creepy toad creature. The creature itself is not particularly frightening. The transformation, however was scary! That part scared me when I was young!:eek:

[Puss in Cute]

I've heard that the Hamburglar is in a House Of House episode.

[Umi]

When... oh should I put this as a spoiler? Ok then...

When Mufasa dies ("The Lion King")

I cried and cried and cried and cried (like all children in the movies that time) and if I watch the escene, I feel sad :( . I didn't think that was gonna happen... It was pretty shocking.

And also the fact that Kuzco (The Emperor's new groove) wasn't exactly the common good, handsome and kind Disney main character. OMG I loved that movie XD.

Greetings!

[DarkGojira]

I've heard that the Hamburglar is in a House Of House episode.
It's not real. TvTome brought this up, but it turned out to be fake.

[SimpsonGuy100]

That hen & Donald Duck's dancing in the short "Mickey's Birthday Party".

(If you don't know what I mean, buy a Mickey Mouse DVD or whatever, watch the short and examine how shocking that scene is!)

Or else check out this spoiler (be warned, it's a PG-rated spoiler):

It's a very clever innuendo. You'll see what I mean. :eek: :ack:

[Sailor V]

That hen & Donald Duck's dancing in the short "Mickey's Birthday Party".

(If you don't know what I mean, buy a Mickey Mouse DVD or whatever, watch the short and examine how shocking that scene is!)

Or else check out this spoiler (be warned, it's a PG-rated spoiler):

It's a very clever innuendo. You'll see what I mean. :eek: :ack: Give us more details!

[SimpsonGuy100]

OK, but remember this is a family site so I'll put it in a spoiler to stay safe(possibly PG-13)...

What happened in that scene was that the hen pushed Donald's "parts" against her own "upper you-know-whats" and they push up and they do it again and again and again. At the end of it, Donald is tired and then his trousers fall down. It's quite a shocking innuendo for a classic Disney cartoon. :eek: :ack: :ack: :ack:

Alright, does that answer your question?

[Sailor V]

Yes it does thank you!

[mac]

Hmm I never interpreted that scene in Mickey's Birthday Party that way before...

I remembered another TV moment that kind of surprised me, but maybe it's a flase memory. In one episode of Ducktales doesn't Scrooge call Goldie a 'pros...pector' and it's implied that he ws going to say another word beginning with 'pros' before changing his mind?

[Lightshade]

I know some of these have already been said, but they still kinda surprised me.

The Incredibles
Syndrome gleefully yelling, "You married Elastigirl!? And you got bizzay!"
Gargoyles
Seeing Elisa Maza laying in a pool of her own blood after Broadway shot her on accident (though they cut that part out. Now you just see a close-up of Elisa's face after the gunshot).
Oliver & Co.
Seeing Roscoe and Desoto get electrocuted after fighting Oliver and Dodger on Sykes' limo in the subway.In The Incredibles, I was surprised they were able to put that line, in when you have 4 year olds watching this.If they don't understand the line, and ask their parents, that certainly leads to a sticky situation.
Gargoyles always surprised me just by the fact that they SHOT a main character. That's heavy stuff for a kid.
That scene in Oliver and Company always freaked me out when I watched it. My memory's shot,but I'm pretty sure you can hear Rosco and Desoto yelping as they hit the train tracks. Also, after the Dobermans beat up Dodger, he's still limping around afterwards. No "magical self healing" injuries, like they usually do in Disney movies

[RAINMAN]

DWD. A army guy was working for foul stole some device form sush that give people power but you ncat think while usieng. so he used on himselfand turn into a big brain to fight DWD. When DWD could not beat him he used the sush device on him and trick the guy into thinking and once the army guy had althougth and his brain exploded.:eek: In another ep where DW work whit sush gander was telling him about sush agants who were getting killed on their missions. He show hima picture of them being swalloed by a giant snake and later show a can of tunra.When DW pick it up, gander told him a another agent was canned into it which made DW drop it on the counter in a heartbeat.

[Conan-san]

Uh, the Chiro clones were pritty damned disturbing.

[Sailor V]

Yeah I can think of one thing in WFRR. I was shocked when I saw Jessica's Rabbit's dance.:eek:

[bat313]

Hmm I never interpreted that scene in Mickey's Birthday Party that way before...

I remembered another TV moment that kind of surprised me, but maybe it's a flase memory. In one episode of Ducktales doesn't Scrooge call Goldie a 'pros...pector' and it's implied that he ws going to say another word beginning with 'pros' before changing his mind?
ummmm, im thinking noooooo...... what ep do you think that was in and i'll rewatch it!

[SimpsonGuy100]

BUMP.

Very very sorry for the very big bump I just made but I have just found another thing on a Disney cartoon that was pretty shocking.

I was watching an old video tape of the TV spin-off: "Timon & Pumbaa" and on the episode: "Never Everglades", a crocodile egg rolled right into the bottom of Pumbaa and later on he wakes up and thinks that he made an egg. Then Timon says: "You can't have an egg because you haven't got the right...errrr....gyro-electric-gizmo-thigamijigs in you to make one." Then Pumba goes: "But I made one anyway Timon! I'm going to be a MOMMY!". :o :ack:

Well, at least I found that pretty shocking anyway.

P.S. Again sorry for the massive bump, I just needed to talk that's all.

[The Spectre]

Actually, I didn't find that shocking to myself, because it basically means, "Donkey."
Yep... but at the beginning of the Pleasure Island sequence, the Coachman remarks "Give a bad boy enough rope and he'll soon make a jack-ass of himself!" The problem with this? Well, evidently someone decided that an English-accented character like the Coachman would pronounce "ass" with an "r" and so what the Coachman really says is "...soon mae a jack-[I'm not sure if this word is printable] of himself"

But in British English the word which is pronounced like "ass" with an R in the middle is *never* used as a word for a donkey, it's always used as a crude word for the rear end. So hearing it appear in a 1940 Disney film was shocking, in a pretty hilarious sort of way.

[SimpsonGuy100]

Off Topic:


[I'm not sure if this word is printable]

It is printable but I don't think you should think about typing or saying it in this forum.

[The Spectre]

That was what I meant.

[UmmYeahOk]

Wow.. ...I know these are shocking moments, but half of these things I wouldnt consider saying "I can't believe they got away with that." I figured this thread would mention some absense of political correctness, or lewd behavior... ...but instead "I cant belived a character died"... ..."I can't believe there were violent acts commited upon an innocent character!" C'mon on! Not every cartoon can be Steamboat Willie! That would be boring! Any good story needs a conflict that the hero can overcome!

With that said, going back to "I cant believe they got away with that...


The one "Donald's Happy Birthday" short, where he makes his nephews smoke cigars. LOL, every may say it's cruel, but I'm sure parental instincts at that time didn't care much, since they were more strict than than today.
See, now theres a good example of something "I cant believe they got away with" As mentioned, they could get away with that back then. The idea of using the "flooding" technique with smoking involving a minor would be unheard of these days, but appropriate then (had the nephews bought the cigars for themselves that is) Also, many characters when they assumed they would die, were given/gave themself a cigarette... ...This I dont think occured with Disney, but its still an example of smoking that the producers got away with.

I also am surprised at how Prickley in Lilo & Stitch becomes their "aunt" Though Prickley is an alien, and we're not absolutely sure about the possibily that that particular species arent hermaphrodites, we can only assume that Aunt Prickley is a male who enjoys dressing in womens clothing and enjoys doing feminine things. (which, considering that the voice actor is gay, leads us to believe his character is too) I do understand that Disney wants to include everyone, and that society is becoming more open minded about these things, but I am very surprised (after hearing about all the protests about disneys "gay day") that there havent been huge protests, and stitch bonfires because of this subject. WBs has had male characters dress in women clothing many times, but the attack on gayness appears to only trouble Disney.

Another thing "I cant believe they got away with"... ...The entire Song Of The South movie... ...which still has its great moments.

[Dudley]

When one of the characters in the Proud Family (it was one of Penny's friends), said "b'yatch".

[disneyfan89]

When one of the characters in the Proud Family (it was one of Penny's friends), said "b'yatch".
Huh?? Which episode was that?

[Iron G]

A lot of things in the KP episode "Emotion Sickness".

[MonkeyFunk]

Though Prickley is an alien, and we're not absolutely sure about the possibily that that particular species arent hermaphrodites, we can only assume that Aunt Prickley is a male who enjoys dressing in womens clothing and enjoys doing feminine things. (which, considering that the voice actor is gay, leads us to believe his character is too)
He has three legs, doesn't he? He has to wear skirts ;)

[Sailor V]

I'm surprised no one said "The Proud Family Movie" part with the sexual stuff I saw at the commerical!:ack:

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted By UmmYeahOk
I also am surprised at how Prickley in Lilo & Stitch becomes their "aunt" Though Prickley is an alien, and we're not absolutely sure about the possibily that that particular species arent hermaphrodites, we can only assume that Aunt Prickley is a male who enjoys dressing in womens clothing and enjoys doing feminine things. (which, considering that the voice actor is gay, leads us to believe his character is too)Actually also, even though the characters they voice aren't gay themselves the actors who voiced Timon from "The Lion King", and the tough, short guy from "Mulan" are also gay as well.

[UmmYeahOk]

He has three legs, doesn't he? He has to wear skirts ;)
The 3 legged man means so many things that Im simply not going to go into it. :D

Hes worn pants before... ...womens pants. Infact, they belonged to Nani, who, doesnt like it when theyre borrowed without permission. In the begining of the movie, when he was living in the society of the Galatic Alliance, he did not wear obvious womens clothing... ...infact, the movie shows him sorta coming out of the closest, when he puts on the wig voluntarily. Back then, he didnt voluntarily dress like an earth woman, he only did so, when nessisary.

There was actually an entire episode where he had to show his family how straight he was by marrying a woman, Nani, and he had to wear mens clothing. Aunt Prickley became Uncle Prickly... ...Jumba, didnt pretend to be Prickleys partner, until he had to wear the wedding gown. Though partners, I am not sure if Jumba is gay too, however.

[Iron G]

I'm surprised no one said "The Proud Family Movie" part with the sexual stuff I saw at the commerical!:ack:
Oh yeah.... that. 0.0 It was very disturbing.